Harald wrote:
> The last time I was here, I was working on a book about some early Disney
comics creators. A four-way biography about Disney (as intro), Gottfredson,
Taliaferro (the main piece) and Barks. Unfortunately this book didn't see
printing then.
But - tadaa! - now someone got interested in the theme and "Micky, Donald
und ihre V?ter" (working title, = "Mickey, Donald and their fathers") will
be published in April 2002.
Sounds very interesting! I wish my German was much better than it actually
is...
> - other artists: we'd like to include a (short) chapter showing the
unknowing public what happened to Disney-Comics after Taliaferro,
Gottfredson and Barks. I mean: GREAT creators that followed their footsteps.
Like Rosa or Rota. Now:
Who would you include? (4-5 names) Where would I find informations on their
individual biographies and bibliographies?
Romano Scarpa, to start with. Have a look at Eta Beta's "Last Balaboo"
webpage:
http://eega.net/last/balaboo.html
Ciao,
Armando
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Armando Botto
Mickey, Donald and their fathers
Message 241 -
2001-11-24 at 00:13:29
Armando Botto
Fethry and,Duckburg and reason in fantasy
Message 242 -
2001-11-24 at 00:13:35
Hello again, Dim!
> The original Martina script of "The Blot's Double Mustery" said that the
Blot's plan was to have Mickey murder O'Hara?Then why wasn't O'Hara in his
bed while Mickey stamped it with the knife?The greek translation says that
an unknown informer tipped off O'Hara who hided nearby to watch who was
going to make the attempt.The informer is presumed to be the Blot.What is
the italian version?
In the Italian version, O'Hara says that he became suspicious as soon as he
arrived at the castle with Mickey and Goofy, because Mickey headed towards
the hall without a moment of hesitation, thus showing that he had been there
before. At the end of the story, the Blot declares: "Mickey and O'Hara had
sent me to jail! So I thought to have Mickey kill O'Hara... he would have
gotten the chair, and my revenge would have been complete!"
So, it turns out that the Greek version was indeed censored! The Blot's
original plan was too devilish for the editors, I reckon... (it's curious to
notice that the same "mildening" treatment was used by American editors,
when they had Bill Wright and Paul Murry produce two remakes of
Gottfredson's original Blot story!)
> Armando said that some early Fethry stories were little mastrerpieces.I
persume he means stories like the enjoyable "The Health Nut"(S 64008) by
Dick Kinney and Al Hubbard.
Sure! And I really hope that Luca manages to have a few of them properly
reprinted in "Zio Paperone"...
Ciao,
Armando
> The original Martina script of "The Blot's Double Mustery" said that the
Blot's plan was to have Mickey murder O'Hara?Then why wasn't O'Hara in his
bed while Mickey stamped it with the knife?The greek translation says that
an unknown informer tipped off O'Hara who hided nearby to watch who was
going to make the attempt.The informer is presumed to be the Blot.What is
the italian version?
In the Italian version, O'Hara says that he became suspicious as soon as he
arrived at the castle with Mickey and Goofy, because Mickey headed towards
the hall without a moment of hesitation, thus showing that he had been there
before. At the end of the story, the Blot declares: "Mickey and O'Hara had
sent me to jail! So I thought to have Mickey kill O'Hara... he would have
gotten the chair, and my revenge would have been complete!"
So, it turns out that the Greek version was indeed censored! The Blot's
original plan was too devilish for the editors, I reckon... (it's curious to
notice that the same "mildening" treatment was used by American editors,
when they had Bill Wright and Paul Murry produce two remakes of
Gottfredson's original Blot story!)
> Armando said that some early Fethry stories were little mastrerpieces.I
persume he means stories like the enjoyable "The Health Nut"(S 64008) by
Dick Kinney and Al Hubbard.
Sure! And I really hope that Luca manages to have a few of them properly
reprinted in "Zio Paperone"...
Ciao,
Armando
Petri Kanninen
Blot's Double Mystery and Paperiade
Message 243 -
2001-11-24 at 01:14:27
Hi Dim and Armando!
ARMANDO wrote about Blot's Double Mystery
>In the Italian version, O'Hara says that he became suspicious as soon as
>he arrived at the castle with Mickey and Goofy, because Mickey headed
>towards the hall without a moment of hesitation, thus showing that he had
>been there before.
The Finnish version is the same. O'Hara says he wondered why Mickey knew
where the hall was. He also went to Mickey's house and found more knives
and a bag of tools for braking in.
>At the end of the story, the Blot declares: "Mickey and O'Hara had
>sent me to jail! So I thought to have Mickey kill O'Hara... he would have
>gotten the chair, and my revenge would have been complete!"
This is a bit different in the Finnish version. There was no death penalty
in Finland at that time (nor is now) so the punishment has been changed to
life sentence. It might also be that the change was made in the German
reprint so the Finnish translator didn't even know the original version.
Any German member willing to check that?
But I think that life sentence would have been a worse punishment for
Mickey as he had rotten away in prison never knowing that he actually did
the crime.
DIM wrote about Paperiade
>There are also "Paperiade"(I TL 202-A,I TL 203-A,I TL 204-A) and
>"Paperodissea"(I TL 268-A,I TL 269-A) two of my favorites by Martina.The
>first presents Gladstone as the Beagle Boys new leader and Scrooge's
>rival in a new conflict.It is one of the most interesting versions of
>Gladstone.Donald playing Achiles' part is a great interpretation of the
>character.
This is getting interesting! I think this is an excellent story except for
the part of Gladstone. It just doesn't fit into my head that he would be
such a criminal. Stealing from Scrooge like that. It seems that our tastes
in character handling don't quite meet. Doesn't it disturb you to see
captain Hook or mr. Smee if Snow White and other animation characters did
in "Paperin Fracasse"?
BTW. I reread Paperin Fracasse and I still like it a lot. But I also see
that if defined Snow White and the other animation characters by the
movies (I haven't actually seen Snow White or Pinocchio, I don't care much
for Disney's long animation) it would probably ruin the story. I just
watch Donald playing his role and enjoy.
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"Elokuvataiteen kannalta Van Damme on ollut merkitt?vimmill??n
Replicant-elokuvan loppuhuipennuksessa, jossa h?n potki ja
pieksi perusteellisesti itse??n." -Mikko Vienonen, IS 13.10.2001
ARMANDO wrote about Blot's Double Mystery
>In the Italian version, O'Hara says that he became suspicious as soon as
>he arrived at the castle with Mickey and Goofy, because Mickey headed
>towards the hall without a moment of hesitation, thus showing that he had
>been there before.
The Finnish version is the same. O'Hara says he wondered why Mickey knew
where the hall was. He also went to Mickey's house and found more knives
and a bag of tools for braking in.
>At the end of the story, the Blot declares: "Mickey and O'Hara had
>sent me to jail! So I thought to have Mickey kill O'Hara... he would have
>gotten the chair, and my revenge would have been complete!"
This is a bit different in the Finnish version. There was no death penalty
in Finland at that time (nor is now) so the punishment has been changed to
life sentence. It might also be that the change was made in the German
reprint so the Finnish translator didn't even know the original version.
Any German member willing to check that?
But I think that life sentence would have been a worse punishment for
Mickey as he had rotten away in prison never knowing that he actually did
the crime.
DIM wrote about Paperiade
>There are also "Paperiade"(I TL 202-A,I TL 203-A,I TL 204-A) and
>"Paperodissea"(I TL 268-A,I TL 269-A) two of my favorites by Martina.The
>first presents Gladstone as the Beagle Boys new leader and Scrooge's
>rival in a new conflict.It is one of the most interesting versions of
>Gladstone.Donald playing Achiles' part is a great interpretation of the
>character.
This is getting interesting! I think this is an excellent story except for
the part of Gladstone. It just doesn't fit into my head that he would be
such a criminal. Stealing from Scrooge like that. It seems that our tastes
in character handling don't quite meet. Doesn't it disturb you to see
captain Hook or mr. Smee if Snow White and other animation characters did
in "Paperin Fracasse"?
BTW. I reread Paperin Fracasse and I still like it a lot. But I also see
that if defined Snow White and the other animation characters by the
movies (I haven't actually seen Snow White or Pinocchio, I don't care much
for Disney's long animation) it would probably ruin the story. I just
watch Donald playing his role and enjoy.
--
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"Elokuvataiteen kannalta Van Damme on ollut merkitt?vimmill??n
Replicant-elokuvan loppuhuipennuksessa, jossa h?n potki ja
pieksi perusteellisesti itse??n." -Mikko Vienonen, IS 13.10.2001
Ari Seppi
Paperin Fracasse and perspectives
Message 244 -
2001-11-24 at 10:29:05
Petri:
>True, it definitely doesn't make any sense what so ever :-) That's one
>part of its goodness. I've always liked stories where anything might
>happen.
I'll agree with Petri. About the goodness of Double Mystery and
about stories where almost anything can happen not being
automatically poor. The concept of Disney-comics itself drops
away a whole lot of realism so some more doesn't matter that
much.
However, the thing I don't like is dropping away the credibility.
(Right now I can't think of any example to give about this.)
>Again, here's a difference how we read stories. I never thought, as a kid,
>that Duckburg was in USA, or in Finland either. It was in some undefined
>place, where you would mountains, seas, forests and deserts if you wanted.
I don't remember what I thought about Duckburg's location
as a kid. I might have thought it was in Finland before I read
I TL 800-A, I TL 801-A (Zio Paperone e il drakkar volante),
where Scrooge doesn't know where Oslo is (He does know
where Norway is since they "sell awfully lot of herring to
all countries" :-) ).
>Reading Rosa's stories I think Duckburg is in the USA, but when I
>start to read some old story like this, it never bothers me. Duckburg is
>now somewhere else, where forests and castles exist.
I, again, agree with Petri.
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>True, it definitely doesn't make any sense what so ever :-) That's one
>part of its goodness. I've always liked stories where anything might
>happen.
I'll agree with Petri. About the goodness of Double Mystery and
about stories where almost anything can happen not being
automatically poor. The concept of Disney-comics itself drops
away a whole lot of realism so some more doesn't matter that
much.
However, the thing I don't like is dropping away the credibility.
(Right now I can't think of any example to give about this.)
>Again, here's a difference how we read stories. I never thought, as a kid,
>that Duckburg was in USA, or in Finland either. It was in some undefined
>place, where you would mountains, seas, forests and deserts if you wanted.
I don't remember what I thought about Duckburg's location
as a kid. I might have thought it was in Finland before I read
I TL 800-A, I TL 801-A (Zio Paperone e il drakkar volante),
where Scrooge doesn't know where Oslo is (He does know
where Norway is since they "sell awfully lot of herring to
all countries" :-) ).
>Reading Rosa's stories I think Duckburg is in the USA, but when I
>start to read some old story like this, it never bothers me. Duckburg is
>now somewhere else, where forests and castles exist.
I, again, agree with Petri.
--
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Arttu Salminen
Sorry everyone!
Message 245 -
2001-11-24 at 14:44:09
So, the "important" message I sent to you was a hoax! Sorry everyone, I
really thought it was a real thing, and thought that I was doing the
right thing. I quess I still have a lot to learn about the cruel world
of Internet...
Arttu Salminen
http://www.angelfire.com/comics/donrosa/
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really thought it was a real thing, and thought that I was doing the
right thing. I quess I still have a lot to learn about the cruel world
of Internet...
Arttu Salminen
http://www.angelfire.com/comics/donrosa/
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Gary Pantzer
Uncle Scrooge mention on tv
Message 246 -
2001-11-24 at 16:32:12
OK, so this is maybe off-subject. It is rare in the USA that there is ever
a mention of the ducks in the media so I found this worth sharing. We have
a tv show called "JAG" which is about military lawyers. In the last episode
one character ("Harm") wants another ("Bud") to look up an e-mail address
of Beagleboy38 at china.net. Harm knows his phone call is being 'bugged'.
The following is not exactly the dialog, but close:
Harm: Bud, I need a favor. Do you remember Uncle Scrooge?
Bud: I know my ducks, sir.
Harm: Good. He had a large money bin and there were some 'bad boys'
who always tried to break into it. You know who I mean?
Bud: Yes. Are we talking in code? Cool!
Harm: Yes. Use the name of one of the 'bad boys' and your age plus 3...
There is more, but that was the 'duck' part. They show the people who
are listening (Chinese) kind of scratching their heads in confusion. I had
to wonder how many viewers were doing the same. I almost think that
there was a duck reference on this show once before. Maybe one of
the writers is a duck fan.
Gary
a mention of the ducks in the media so I found this worth sharing. We have
a tv show called "JAG" which is about military lawyers. In the last episode
one character ("Harm") wants another ("Bud") to look up an e-mail address
of Beagleboy38 at china.net. Harm knows his phone call is being 'bugged'.
The following is not exactly the dialog, but close:
Harm: Bud, I need a favor. Do you remember Uncle Scrooge?
Bud: I know my ducks, sir.
Harm: Good. He had a large money bin and there were some 'bad boys'
who always tried to break into it. You know who I mean?
Bud: Yes. Are we talking in code? Cool!
Harm: Yes. Use the name of one of the 'bad boys' and your age plus 3...
There is more, but that was the 'duck' part. They show the people who
are listening (Chinese) kind of scratching their heads in confusion. I had
to wonder how many viewers were doing the same. I almost think that
there was a duck reference on this show once before. Maybe one of
the writers is a duck fan.
Gary
Armando Botto
More on "The Blot's Double Secret"
Message 247 -
2001-11-24 at 23:25:02
Petri wrote:
>> At the end of the story, the Blot declares: "Mickey and O'Hara had sent
me to jail! So I thought to have Mickey kill O'Hara... he would have gotten
the chair, and my revenge would have been complete!"
> This is a bit different in the Finnish version. There was no death penalty
in Finland at that time (nor is now) so the punishment has been changed to
life sentence.
Interesting! So, the Finnish (or German) editors probably had to change also
the dialogue in the following two panels, when the Blot explains his
"alternative" revenge plan (as Mickey didn't manage to actually kill
O'Hara):
"Mickey had pleaded guilty, so he would have been executed all the same!
After his death, I would have revealed the truth to O'Hara, who - knowing to
have caused his friend's death - would have committed suicide, maybe!"
(Actually, this sounds a bit lame... it's hard to believe Mickey would have
been sentenced to death because of an *attempted* murder...)
In the wonderful book about Romano Scarpa "Sognando la Calidornia" (by
Becattini, Boschi, Gori, and Sani) there's an interesting note about the
story: it seems possible that Martina got the initial inspiration from John
Dickson Carr's novel "The Mad Hatter Mystery" (1933), whose plot revolves
about a criminal who steals hats. So, the presence of the Mad Hatter from
Alice in "The Blot's Double Secret" is not so bizarre, after all...
Ciao,
Armando
>> At the end of the story, the Blot declares: "Mickey and O'Hara had sent
me to jail! So I thought to have Mickey kill O'Hara... he would have gotten
the chair, and my revenge would have been complete!"
> This is a bit different in the Finnish version. There was no death penalty
in Finland at that time (nor is now) so the punishment has been changed to
life sentence.
Interesting! So, the Finnish (or German) editors probably had to change also
the dialogue in the following two panels, when the Blot explains his
"alternative" revenge plan (as Mickey didn't manage to actually kill
O'Hara):
"Mickey had pleaded guilty, so he would have been executed all the same!
After his death, I would have revealed the truth to O'Hara, who - knowing to
have caused his friend's death - would have committed suicide, maybe!"
(Actually, this sounds a bit lame... it's hard to believe Mickey would have
been sentenced to death because of an *attempted* murder...)
In the wonderful book about Romano Scarpa "Sognando la Calidornia" (by
Becattini, Boschi, Gori, and Sani) there's an interesting note about the
story: it seems possible that Martina got the initial inspiration from John
Dickson Carr's novel "The Mad Hatter Mystery" (1933), whose plot revolves
about a criminal who steals hats. So, the presence of the Mad Hatter from
Alice in "The Blot's Double Secret" is not so bizarre, after all...
Ciao,
Armando
Petri Kanninen
Dialogue changes in Blot's Double Secret
Message 248 -
2001-11-25 at 01:54:28
ARMANDO wrote about dialogue of BDS
>Interesting! So, the Finnish (or German) editors probably had to change
>also the dialogue in the following two panels, when the Blot explains his
>"alternative" revenge plan (as Mickey didn't manage to actually kill
>O'Hara): "Mickey had pleaded guilty, so he would have been executed all
>the same! After his death, I would have revealed the truth to O'Hara, who
>- knowing to have caused his friend's death - would have committed
>suicide, maybe!" (Actually, this sounds a bit lame... it's hard to
>believe Mickey would have been sentenced to death because of an
>*attempted* murder...)
Indeed you're right, the dialogue is changed. In Finland those three
panels goes like this:
[Eega interrogating Blot]
BLOT: I wanted Mickey to kill O'Hara. He would have gotten a life
sentence. That was my revenge.
EEGA: But it went wrong.
BLOT: Yes, because you caught me. Otherwise the evidence would have been
solid.
EEGA: When the killing failed, what were you going to do with O'Hara?
BLOT: Sooner or later I would have made someone from his people to kill
him.
EEGA: So how did you hypnotise Mickey?
This does make a little more sense for Mickey would be in jail and O'Hara
dead. But you Italians sure have the more violent version. Interesting
things you find about your favorite stories on this list.
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http:/www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
"Elokuvataiteen kannalta Van Damme on ollut merkitt?vimmill??n
Replicant-elokuvan loppuhuipennuksessa, jossa h?n potki ja
pieksi perusteellisesti itse??n." -Mikko Vienonen, IS 13.10.2001
>Interesting! So, the Finnish (or German) editors probably had to change
>also the dialogue in the following two panels, when the Blot explains his
>"alternative" revenge plan (as Mickey didn't manage to actually kill
>O'Hara): "Mickey had pleaded guilty, so he would have been executed all
>the same! After his death, I would have revealed the truth to O'Hara, who
>- knowing to have caused his friend's death - would have committed
>suicide, maybe!" (Actually, this sounds a bit lame... it's hard to
>believe Mickey would have been sentenced to death because of an
>*attempted* murder...)
Indeed you're right, the dialogue is changed. In Finland those three
panels goes like this:
[Eega interrogating Blot]
BLOT: I wanted Mickey to kill O'Hara. He would have gotten a life
sentence. That was my revenge.
EEGA: But it went wrong.
BLOT: Yes, because you caught me. Otherwise the evidence would have been
solid.
EEGA: When the killing failed, what were you going to do with O'Hara?
BLOT: Sooner or later I would have made someone from his people to kill
him.
EEGA: So how did you hypnotise Mickey?
This does make a little more sense for Mickey would be in jail and O'Hara
dead. But you Italians sure have the more violent version. Interesting
things you find about your favorite stories on this list.
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http:/www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
"Elokuvataiteen kannalta Van Damme on ollut merkitt?vimmill??n
Replicant-elokuvan loppuhuipennuksessa, jossa h?n potki ja
pieksi perusteellisesti itse??n." -Mikko Vienonen, IS 13.10.2001
Dim I Nticoudis
Gladstone and Hook.
Message 249 -
2001-11-25 at 08:17:18
"Paperiade"'s version of Gladstone is one of my favorites because
Gladstone is an active character and a competent rival instead of being just
a lazy Duck who firmly believes in destiny.And he only steals an artifact
with magical powers but not great monetary worth.Scrooge couldn't turn him
to the police over that.
I do not enjoy Hook's presence but the character's longevity has an
explanation.If you remember he comes from Neverland and he ages in slower
rates.He can travel between Earth and Neverland but he won't start aging
normaly unless he stays on Earth for a long time.Remember that the original
Peter Pan book's events take place in late 19th centurie but Captain James
Hook is refeared as the only man "the Sea Cook" was afraid of.The Sea Cook
being 18th centurie's Long John Silver who was already dead by 1800.Hook is
not excactly a young man.
As for Gladstone's honesty may I remind you of "The Luck of the North" by
Barks in which Glastone cons an Eskimo tribe to give him one of their two
cayaks and destroy the other?The tribe later starves.This version of
Gladstone is much more cruel than the "Paperiade"'s.
And a correction for Ari Seppi.Petri's comment is about "Paperin Fracassa"
and not about "The Blot's Double Mystery".
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Gladstone is an active character and a competent rival instead of being just
a lazy Duck who firmly believes in destiny.And he only steals an artifact
with magical powers but not great monetary worth.Scrooge couldn't turn him
to the police over that.
I do not enjoy Hook's presence but the character's longevity has an
explanation.If you remember he comes from Neverland and he ages in slower
rates.He can travel between Earth and Neverland but he won't start aging
normaly unless he stays on Earth for a long time.Remember that the original
Peter Pan book's events take place in late 19th centurie but Captain James
Hook is refeared as the only man "the Sea Cook" was afraid of.The Sea Cook
being 18th centurie's Long John Silver who was already dead by 1800.Hook is
not excactly a young man.
As for Gladstone's honesty may I remind you of "The Luck of the North" by
Barks in which Glastone cons an Eskimo tribe to give him one of their two
cayaks and destroy the other?The tribe later starves.This version of
Gladstone is much more cruel than the "Paperiade"'s.
And a correction for Ari Seppi.Petri's comment is about "Paperin Fracassa"
and not about "The Blot's Double Mystery".
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Gladstone.
Message 250 -
2001-11-25 at 08:30:57
As far as I remember the only story that focuses on Gladstone's posive
qualities is the short but enjoyable(and great visually) "Gastone e il
debole dalla fortuna"(I TL 2208-4) by Augusto Macchetto and Enrico
Faccini.Any others?
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qualities is the short but enjoyable(and great visually) "Gastone e il
debole dalla fortuna"(I TL 2208-4) by Augusto Macchetto and Enrico
Faccini.Any others?
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Gladstone and Hook.
Message 251 -
2001-11-25 at 09:47:57
Dim:
> And a correction for Ari Seppi.Petri's comment is about "Paperin
> Fracassa" and not about "The Blot's Double Mystery".
Yes it was, I was just referring to the earlier conversation, since Blot's
Double Mystery is one of my favorites too.
As for Paperin Fracassa: the story isn't bad, but it's not a classic.
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Eritt?in fanaattinen Harry Potter -kirjojen ja Disney-sarjakuvien palvoja
> And a correction for Ari Seppi.Petri's comment is about "Paperin
> Fracassa" and not about "The Blot's Double Mystery".
Yes it was, I was just referring to the earlier conversation, since Blot's
Double Mystery is one of my favorites too.
As for Paperin Fracassa: the story isn't bad, but it's not a classic.
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Olson32
Thanks!
Message 252 -
2001-11-25 at 16:07:24
Many thanks to Seppi, Falkenberg, and Klein for helping to answer my
recent question about the Uncle Scrooge Treasure Chest series. It is
such a small world that it is quite possible that Klein and I even met
at Collectors Bookstore in Hollywood around 1965.
Thanks,
Richard Olson
recent question about the Uncle Scrooge Treasure Chest series. It is
such a small world that it is quite possible that Klein and I even met
at Collectors Bookstore in Hollywood around 1965.
Thanks,
Richard Olson
Kriton Kyrimis
KOMIX #162
Message 253 -
2001-11-26 at 09:01:12
The December issue of Komix came out early, confirming that there will
be more Aragones stuff in the future. In the next issue they will be
publishing the first part of another four-parter called, translated back
from Greek, "Groo and Rufert". Suffice it to say that I am not amused,
and providing KOMIX with free publicity is the last thing I am going
to do. I did my translations and monthly presentations because it had
been fun, but this is no longer the case. Thus, my monthly postings
are going to cease in protest, and I urge my fellow Greek readers not
to pick up this column.
Another non-amusing feature of this month's issue is that all the valid
articles (there are *two* bogus articles in this issue) are about Snow
White. Readers are left to deal on their own with "Hearts of the Yukon",
which just begs for an accompanying article, explaining who the various
apperaring characters are.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
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be more Aragones stuff in the future. In the next issue they will be
publishing the first part of another four-parter called, translated back
from Greek, "Groo and Rufert". Suffice it to say that I am not amused,
and providing KOMIX with free publicity is the last thing I am going
to do. I did my translations and monthly presentations because it had
been fun, but this is no longer the case. Thus, my monthly postings
are going to cease in protest, and I urge my fellow Greek readers not
to pick up this column.
Another non-amusing feature of this month's issue is that all the valid
articles (there are *two* bogus articles in this issue) are about Snow
White. Readers are left to deal on their own with "Hearts of the Yukon",
which just begs for an accompanying article, explaining who the various
apperaring characters are.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Petri Kanninen
Gladstone and classics
Message 254 -
2001-11-26 at 13:27:55
DIM wrote about Gladstone's character
> As for Gladstone's honesty may I remind you of "The Luck of the North"
>by Barks in which Glastone cons an Eskimo tribe to give him one of their
>two cayaks and destroy the other?The tribe later starves.This version of
>Gladstone is much more cruel than the "Paperiade"'s.
Yes, I'm aware of that Gladstone isn't world's nicest person. But it
doesn't make any sense to me that Gladstone would team up with criminals
like the Beagle Boys. Still it's an interesting way to handle Gladstone
and adds some extra flavour to the story but I don't like it anyway.
>As far as I remember the only story that focuses on Gladstone's posive
>qualities is the short but enjoyable(and great visually) "Gastone e il
>debole dalla fortuna"(I TL 2208-4) by Augusto Macchetto and Enrico
>Faccini.Any others?
There was one story published in Finland few months ago: "Gastone e la
fortuna altruista" (I TL 2338-2) which in the end shows Gladstone as a
friendly person.
SPOILERS AHEAD! BEWARE!
Gladstone's car brakes down and he has to wait in a gas station for the
spare part. The gas station is not going too well, but Gladstone's arrival
brings luck to them and things start to work out. Gladstone however is
suffering from bad luck and he's anxious to go on. But at the end he and
the gas station people become friends and he might stay there a little
longer.
I forgot to comment those other classic adaptions (Three Musketeers, Don
Quijote, Odysseia). These might very well be better adaptions than
Paperin Fracasse but there is one major problem in them for me: the
drawer. I simply can't stand Pier Lorenzo De Vita's style. Doesn't matter
how good the plot is, I can't see it through the drawings. So although I
have read those stories I don't really care about them. Shame, if the
stories really are good.
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http:/www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
"Elokuvataiteen kannalta Van Damme on ollut merkitt?vimmill??n
Replicant-elokuvan loppuhuipennuksessa, jossa h?n potki ja
pieksi perusteellisesti itse??n." -Mikko Vienonen, IS 13.10.2001
> As for Gladstone's honesty may I remind you of "The Luck of the North"
>by Barks in which Glastone cons an Eskimo tribe to give him one of their
>two cayaks and destroy the other?The tribe later starves.This version of
>Gladstone is much more cruel than the "Paperiade"'s.
Yes, I'm aware of that Gladstone isn't world's nicest person. But it
doesn't make any sense to me that Gladstone would team up with criminals
like the Beagle Boys. Still it's an interesting way to handle Gladstone
and adds some extra flavour to the story but I don't like it anyway.
>As far as I remember the only story that focuses on Gladstone's posive
>qualities is the short but enjoyable(and great visually) "Gastone e il
>debole dalla fortuna"(I TL 2208-4) by Augusto Macchetto and Enrico
>Faccini.Any others?
There was one story published in Finland few months ago: "Gastone e la
fortuna altruista" (I TL 2338-2) which in the end shows Gladstone as a
friendly person.
SPOILERS AHEAD! BEWARE!
Gladstone's car brakes down and he has to wait in a gas station for the
spare part. The gas station is not going too well, but Gladstone's arrival
brings luck to them and things start to work out. Gladstone however is
suffering from bad luck and he's anxious to go on. But at the end he and
the gas station people become friends and he might stay there a little
longer.
I forgot to comment those other classic adaptions (Three Musketeers, Don
Quijote, Odysseia). These might very well be better adaptions than
Paperin Fracasse but there is one major problem in them for me: the
drawer. I simply can't stand Pier Lorenzo De Vita's style. Doesn't matter
how good the plot is, I can't see it through the drawings. So although I
have read those stories I don't really care about them. Shame, if the
stories really are good.
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http:/www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
"Elokuvataiteen kannalta Van Damme on ollut merkitt?vimmill??n
Replicant-elokuvan loppuhuipennuksessa, jossa h?n potki ja
pieksi perusteellisesti itse??n." -Mikko Vienonen, IS 13.10.2001
Dim I Nticoudis
Over-reactions.
Message 255 -
2001-11-26 at 17:11:08
Kriton it is your right to stop helping Komix get some publishity.But read
the issue more carefuly.The two main articles-7 pages- are about Walter
Elias Disney(1901-1966).The article about Snow White has only 2 pages.I
didn't like it that there is no accompanying article for such a great story
as "Hearts of the Yukon" and that more of Aragones's stories are going to be
published but anyone who wants information on Sir Samuel Benfield
Steele(1849-1919) and John Griffith "Jack" London Chaney(1876-1916) can
search for himself as I did.There are plenty of pages for both in the
Internet.
As for the recent comment on Pier Lorenzo De Vita's style I don't like it
myself but Martina's scenario in those particular stories is interesting
enough to make me forget about the drawings.
"Paperiade" features a conflict between the Ducks.The Beagle Boys just
obey orders.The law is not involved.There is no criminal element in the
story.
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the issue more carefuly.The two main articles-7 pages- are about Walter
Elias Disney(1901-1966).The article about Snow White has only 2 pages.I
didn't like it that there is no accompanying article for such a great story
as "Hearts of the Yukon" and that more of Aragones's stories are going to be
published but anyone who wants information on Sir Samuel Benfield
Steele(1849-1919) and John Griffith "Jack" London Chaney(1876-1916) can
search for himself as I did.There are plenty of pages for both in the
Internet.
As for the recent comment on Pier Lorenzo De Vita's style I don't like it
myself but Martina's scenario in those particular stories is interesting
enough to make me forget about the drawings.
"Paperiade" features a conflict between the Ducks.The Beagle Boys just
obey orders.The law is not involved.There is no criminal element in the
story.
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