Hi all
First of all, let me welcome our new Greek member
(geia sou patrioth!) in DCML :-)
Anders (hi!) wrote:
> But i couldn't give it to him, as it was my own
> subscriber's edition
Hey, you scotch tightwad! (is Scrooge a relative of
you?)-LOL!
:-)
> The Mickey Mystery pocketbook you mention has become
> one of my favorites
Me too. Mickey Mystery was one of the most successful
series in Greece. The first issues are very rare.
Fortunatelly I bought them all :-)
Dim (that's for Dimitris, right?) wrore:
> In fact Almanako magazine reprints only stories of
> him and Arizona Goof for the last four years.
...which I stopped buying several years ago. Some of
these stories was awful...
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Message 76 -
2001-11-05 at 23:12:08
Marco Barlotti
Donald Duck, year 2001
Message 77 -
2001-11-06 at 00:05:42
At 17.34 04/11/2001 +0200, "timo ronkainen" <timoro at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>In quite famous Italian story "Paperino anno 2001" I TL 309-A Donald has got
>all the money. So it has happened already!
>I wonder what happens when/if this is going to reprint someday? Will it be
>"Paperino anno 2010"?
The story was reprinted in Italy last year! With the same title and a note
(Beware: this story was written 40 years ago).
As you pointed out, the time travel part is not consistent. However I loved
a lot this story when I first read it in 1961. And, as I pointed out to
Gatto (the artist who drew this story), I am very proud that the drawing he
made for me was dated 2001... See
http://digilander.iol.it/lucianogatto/Disegni/Marcobar.jpg
Best,
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics
>
>In quite famous Italian story "Paperino anno 2001" I TL 309-A Donald has got
>all the money. So it has happened already!
>I wonder what happens when/if this is going to reprint someday? Will it be
>"Paperino anno 2010"?
The story was reprinted in Italy last year! With the same title and a note
(Beware: this story was written 40 years ago).
As you pointed out, the time travel part is not consistent. However I loved
a lot this story when I first read it in 1961. And, as I pointed out to
Gatto (the artist who drew this story), I am very proud that the drawing he
made for me was dated 2001... See
http://digilander.iol.it/lucianogatto/Disegni/Marcobar.jpg
Best,
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics
Dim I Nticoudis
Almanako
Message 78 -
2001-11-06 at 08:29:06
There is mention of quiting Almanako because of low quality.I think the
magazines only problem is that it republishes fairly new stories and as
usual some of them are going to catch the readers' notice and others are
going to be forgotten.Almanako is not Komix and it is not supposed to
be.Stories like "The Ghost of the Great War" reprinted in the last issue are
fairly good and memorable.
Searching through some old issues of this magazine I found in issue
83,January 1998 one 19-pages story whose plot sounds familiar but there is
no mention of who is the story's creator or the time it was published.It was
reprinted under a greek title which means "Nightmare in the Old West".The
only known characters which appear in it are Magica De Spell,Ratface and
Scrooge McDuck.In the story Magica dreams she returns back in time to the
day Scrooge earns his first dime polishing shoes.The strange details of this
storie is that Scrooge earns his first time as a very young kid,Huey's age
or even younger,polishing a Wild West sheriff's boots in the goldminers'
times.He has already emigrated to the U.S.A alone fore some time.Magica
fails to obtain the dime and she wakes up.When I first found this story I
didn't understand why she would go after a coin than is not in Scrooge's
hand for decades and so it has no power at all.
This story is just a dream but the plot reminds me od Don Rosa's much
better "Of Ducks,and Dimes,and Destinies".Does anybody know which story this
is?
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magazines only problem is that it republishes fairly new stories and as
usual some of them are going to catch the readers' notice and others are
going to be forgotten.Almanako is not Komix and it is not supposed to
be.Stories like "The Ghost of the Great War" reprinted in the last issue are
fairly good and memorable.
Searching through some old issues of this magazine I found in issue
83,January 1998 one 19-pages story whose plot sounds familiar but there is
no mention of who is the story's creator or the time it was published.It was
reprinted under a greek title which means "Nightmare in the Old West".The
only known characters which appear in it are Magica De Spell,Ratface and
Scrooge McDuck.In the story Magica dreams she returns back in time to the
day Scrooge earns his first dime polishing shoes.The strange details of this
storie is that Scrooge earns his first time as a very young kid,Huey's age
or even younger,polishing a Wild West sheriff's boots in the goldminers'
times.He has already emigrated to the U.S.A alone fore some time.Magica
fails to obtain the dime and she wakes up.When I first found this story I
didn't understand why she would go after a coin than is not in Scrooge's
hand for decades and so it has no power at all.
This story is just a dream but the plot reminds me od Don Rosa's much
better "Of Ducks,and Dimes,and Destinies".Does anybody know which story this
is?
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Almanako
Message 79 -
2001-11-06 at 10:13:16
Dim wrote:
> Searching through some old issues of this magazine I found in issue
> 83,January 1998 one 19-pages story whose plot sounds familiar but there is
> no mention of who is the story's creator or the time it was published.It
was
> reprinted under a greek title which means "Nightmare in the Old West".
> [...]
> Does anybody know which story this is?
It's
I TL 697-B (06-04-1969) Amelia e il sogno sfortunato
written by Rodolfo Cimino and drawn by Luciano Gatto.
Ciao,
Armando
> Searching through some old issues of this magazine I found in issue
> 83,January 1998 one 19-pages story whose plot sounds familiar but there is
> no mention of who is the story's creator or the time it was published.It
was
> reprinted under a greek title which means "Nightmare in the Old West".
> [...]
> Does anybody know which story this is?
It's
I TL 697-B (06-04-1969) Amelia e il sogno sfortunato
written by Rodolfo Cimino and drawn by Luciano Gatto.
Ciao,
Armando
Dim I Nticoudis
Of Ducks,and Creators,and Stories.
Message 80 -
2001-11-06 at 12:30:32
So the story I mentioned earlier is the one called "Amelia e il sogno
sfortunato" in the Inducks?This means it is from 1969 and it predates Don
Rosa's "Of Ducks,and Times,and Destinies" giving her one explanation why a
British man's first coin is an American dime.Either Don has heard of
it,there is mo mention of it published in the U.S.A, or two of Disney's
better plot-writers Rodolfo Cimino and Don Rosa had similar ideas inspired
by the same duo of characters:Scrooge McDuck and Magica De Spell.Fairly
interesting.But only the second one uses references from Barks' earlier
"Invisible Intruder"(US 44) from 1963 where it is stated that Scrooge still
lived with his family when he earned his first money.Has anybody else
depicted the shoe-polishing days of Scrooge's life?
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sfortunato" in the Inducks?This means it is from 1969 and it predates Don
Rosa's "Of Ducks,and Times,and Destinies" giving her one explanation why a
British man's first coin is an American dime.Either Don has heard of
it,there is mo mention of it published in the U.S.A, or two of Disney's
better plot-writers Rodolfo Cimino and Don Rosa had similar ideas inspired
by the same duo of characters:Scrooge McDuck and Magica De Spell.Fairly
interesting.But only the second one uses references from Barks' earlier
"Invisible Intruder"(US 44) from 1963 where it is stated that Scrooge still
lived with his family when he earned his first money.Has anybody else
depicted the shoe-polishing days of Scrooge's life?
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Donald Duck, year 2001
Message 81 -
2001-11-06 at 13:56:35
>The story was reprinted in Italy last year! With the same title and a note
>(Beware: this story was written 40 years ago).
Well, well. It was actually quite wise they didn't renamed it or something.
In Finland this was last reprinted in 1987 with original title. First
printing was 1973. Unfortunately the first page, splash page was dropped
off.
>I am very proud that the drawing he
>made for me was dated 2001... See
It's wonderful... *sigh* :-)
Greetings
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>(Beware: this story was written 40 years ago).
Well, well. It was actually quite wise they didn't renamed it or something.
In Finland this was last reprinted in 1987 with original title. First
printing was 1973. Unfortunately the first page, splash page was dropped
off.
>I am very proud that the drawing he
>made for me was dated 2001... See
It's wonderful... *sigh* :-)
Greetings
Timo
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Thomas, Richard, and...
Message 82 -
2001-11-06 at 14:29:14
Stefan:
> Her real name
> might be Dumbella, but she might prefer to use Della as a
> shortened form.
> Not unlike any other Tom, Dick, or... well, maybe not the
> Harry we know.
Well... in case you referred to me:
my actual full name is Harke Willem Fluks. I was named after my two
grandfathers. But because Harke had become quite unusual as a name, and has
associations with the word "hark" (a big fork used in gardening), my parents
decided to call me "Harry" in daily life.
(That suited in the post-war period when American names were popular: a lot
of my class mates were named Johnny or Mary.)
--Harry.
> Her real name
> might be Dumbella, but she might prefer to use Della as a
> shortened form.
> Not unlike any other Tom, Dick, or... well, maybe not the
> Harry we know.
Well... in case you referred to me:
my actual full name is Harke Willem Fluks. I was named after my two
grandfathers. But because Harke had become quite unusual as a name, and has
associations with the word "hark" (a big fork used in gardening), my parents
decided to call me "Harry" in daily life.
(That suited in the post-war period when American names were popular: a lot
of my class mates were named Johnny or Mary.)
--Harry.
Don Rosa
DCML digest #726
Message 83 -
2001-11-06 at 14:40:03
> From: "Dim I Nticoudis" <dimadick at hotmail.com>
> So the story I mentioned earlier is the one called "Amelia e il sogno
> sfortunato" in the Inducks?This means it is from 1969 and it predates Don
> Rosa's "Of Ducks,and Times,and Destinies" giving her one explanation why
a
> British man's first coin is an American dime.Either Don has heard of
> it,there is mo mention of it published in the U.S.A,
I never heard of this story until you described it, and I certainly could
never have read it since the Italian stories have never been printed in
North America.
> But only the second one uses references from Barks' earlier
> "Invisible Intruder"(US 44) from 1963 where it is stated that Scrooge
still
> lived with his family when he earned his first money.
I do NOT make a reference to that story since it is not a Barks story -- he
only drew it from a script supplied to him. Where do you see me making a
reference to it? Simply because a young child is still living with his
family? Isn't that what you'd expect?
(I do use a scene from the story where Barks draws young $crooge shining
shoes with elastic suspenders. I figured that I would allow myself that
since it was part of the art which is what Barks supplied to the story. I
also decided to still use the image even though, on researching the fact, I
determined that elastic was not invented at the time of $crooge's youth.)
By the way, in case it is misnamed in the Inducks, my story was titled "Of
Ducks and Dimes and Destinies"... not "Of Ducks, Dimes and Destinies", and
not "Of Ducks, and Dimes, and Destinies". That's for us nutball indexers
who like their facts precise.
> So the story I mentioned earlier is the one called "Amelia e il sogno
> sfortunato" in the Inducks?This means it is from 1969 and it predates Don
> Rosa's "Of Ducks,and Times,and Destinies" giving her one explanation why
a
> British man's first coin is an American dime.Either Don has heard of
> it,there is mo mention of it published in the U.S.A,
I never heard of this story until you described it, and I certainly could
never have read it since the Italian stories have never been printed in
North America.
> But only the second one uses references from Barks' earlier
> "Invisible Intruder"(US 44) from 1963 where it is stated that Scrooge
still
> lived with his family when he earned his first money.
I do NOT make a reference to that story since it is not a Barks story -- he
only drew it from a script supplied to him. Where do you see me making a
reference to it? Simply because a young child is still living with his
family? Isn't that what you'd expect?
(I do use a scene from the story where Barks draws young $crooge shining
shoes with elastic suspenders. I figured that I would allow myself that
since it was part of the art which is what Barks supplied to the story. I
also decided to still use the image even though, on researching the fact, I
determined that elastic was not invented at the time of $crooge's youth.)
By the way, in case it is misnamed in the Inducks, my story was titled "Of
Ducks and Dimes and Destinies"... not "Of Ducks, Dimes and Destinies", and
not "Of Ducks, and Dimes, and Destinies". That's for us nutball indexers
who like their facts precise.
Fluks, H.W.
Origins.
Message 84 -
2001-11-06 at 14:45:30
Dim: you write a lot. A few comments:
> 1)Flintheart Glomgold.The Southafrican businessman with the
> Scotish accent
Who says he has a Scottish accent? Note that the Ducktales Glomgold is a
*different* character, since that one comes from Scotland.
> he is a Boer.Jan van Riebeek's Boers had arrived on
> 1652.Among them,possibly
> Flintheart's ancestors from Holland.
Or they mingled with other immigrants. Glomgold is not a Dutch name.
> Surching about Dutch Ducks I found in
> "The Last Voyage of Ringtail Van Dykke"(H 8841)
Van Dukke.
> that a brunch of the McDucks
> was active in the Spanish Low Lands at least till 1588
Note that in those days, Holland was "The Spanish Low Lands" (along with
present-day Belgium). So there's no reason to make a connection to Spain.
Spain just was the "owner" of Holland.
> and establishes a Spanish brunch
Note that a "bruch" is when you eat. Trees have *branches*.
--Harry.
> 1)Flintheart Glomgold.The Southafrican businessman with the
> Scotish accent
Who says he has a Scottish accent? Note that the Ducktales Glomgold is a
*different* character, since that one comes from Scotland.
> he is a Boer.Jan van Riebeek's Boers had arrived on
> 1652.Among them,possibly
> Flintheart's ancestors from Holland.
Or they mingled with other immigrants. Glomgold is not a Dutch name.
> Surching about Dutch Ducks I found in
> "The Last Voyage of Ringtail Van Dykke"(H 8841)
Van Dukke.
> that a brunch of the McDucks
> was active in the Spanish Low Lands at least till 1588
Note that in those days, Holland was "The Spanish Low Lands" (along with
present-day Belgium). So there's no reason to make a connection to Spain.
Spain just was the "owner" of Holland.
> and establishes a Spanish brunch
Note that a "bruch" is when you eat. Trees have *branches*.
--Harry.
Dim I Nticoudis
Correction
Message 85 -
2001-11-06 at 16:51:41
When I was refearing to "The Invisible Intruder" as being a Barks story I
was using the presentation of it in Komix 67,January 1994 which says it was
both written and drawn by Barks.After Don's comment I searched the Inducks
which says it is actualy written by Vic Lockman.Thanks for the information
Don.And you made it clear that the only stories you could have known at any
time were the ones printed in the U.S.A.But sometimes your stories seem to
confirm stories that you tend to disregurd.For example most older Italian
stories about Scrooge's past claimed that he was traveling the world during
the 1920's and 1930's.Your idea of placing him out of Duckburg during the
first decade and not reporting on his activities during the second after the
1930 incident does not realy cancel some of the facts mentioned in them.
As for references about "The Money Ocean"'s plot not being this
exciting,who said it is?I just mention this story's Money Bin is the most
impressive and seems to confirm that Scrooge's wealth is still increasing
constantly after 1930.By the way this storie talks about more than one Money
Bins.An idea that was regurarly appearing in both American and Italian
stories that were reprinted in Greece for years.Barks only created THE Money
Bin for Scrooge.Who came up with the idea there were more than one?Nobody
seems to use this idea anymore but I don't know if this has anything to do
with Don's influence.I just happened to notice there aren't even mentioned
in the more recent stories.
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was using the presentation of it in Komix 67,January 1994 which says it was
both written and drawn by Barks.After Don's comment I searched the Inducks
which says it is actualy written by Vic Lockman.Thanks for the information
Don.And you made it clear that the only stories you could have known at any
time were the ones printed in the U.S.A.But sometimes your stories seem to
confirm stories that you tend to disregurd.For example most older Italian
stories about Scrooge's past claimed that he was traveling the world during
the 1920's and 1930's.Your idea of placing him out of Duckburg during the
first decade and not reporting on his activities during the second after the
1930 incident does not realy cancel some of the facts mentioned in them.
As for references about "The Money Ocean"'s plot not being this
exciting,who said it is?I just mention this story's Money Bin is the most
impressive and seems to confirm that Scrooge's wealth is still increasing
constantly after 1930.By the way this storie talks about more than one Money
Bins.An idea that was regurarly appearing in both American and Italian
stories that were reprinted in Greece for years.Barks only created THE Money
Bin for Scrooge.Who came up with the idea there were more than one?Nobody
seems to use this idea anymore but I don't know if this has anything to do
with Don's influence.I just happened to notice there aren't even mentioned
in the more recent stories.
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Message 86 -
2001-11-06 at 17:23:22
Hello fellow DCML fans. I am finally virus-free! Thanks very much, Kriton
for your help. To Marco, Janne, Cory and the others to whom I sent mail
just before my discovery that I had the virus, I hope you did not get it
from my mailing. The virus (sent to Kriton and me) sent from a file from
Anne Lise Rydland, is named: w32.magistr.24876 at mm. The tool to remove it
is at this URL:
www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.magistr.24876 at mm.html
It is very dangerous, and after 3 months of infection, will destroy half
the files in your hard drive. i advise everyone to get current updates of
your anti-virus programmes, and to scan regularly. I apologise for being
off topic.
By the way, - no one should be considered "Scotch" for being miserly or
thrifty with one's money. A person of heritage from Scotland would be
Scottish. Scotch is only an alcoholic beverage!
Cheers,
Rob Klein
for your help. To Marco, Janne, Cory and the others to whom I sent mail
just before my discovery that I had the virus, I hope you did not get it
from my mailing. The virus (sent to Kriton and me) sent from a file from
Anne Lise Rydland, is named: w32.magistr.24876 at mm. The tool to remove it
is at this URL:
www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.magistr.24876 at mm.html
It is very dangerous, and after 3 months of infection, will destroy half
the files in your hard drive. i advise everyone to get current updates of
your anti-virus programmes, and to scan regularly. I apologise for being
off topic.
By the way, - no one should be considered "Scotch" for being miserly or
thrifty with one's money. A person of heritage from Scotland would be
Scottish. Scotch is only an alcoholic beverage!
Cheers,
Rob Klein
Petri Kanninen
PKNA in Finland
Message 87 -
2001-11-06 at 17:25:17
ANDERS about PKNA
> But yes, Scrooge occasionally does appear in [PKNA] comics, but they
> are completely different from any other duck comic i expect you to
> have seen, a very different style, that I somehow came to like... And of
> course now the magazine closes here becuase of too low sales.
Yes, I really liked them when they were published in Finland. The series
started here two and a half years later than in Scandinavia. The beginning
looked fine: they even published the famous 0th episode that was left out
in Scandinavia. But already after the second issue, they announced that
they are going to skip about 30 issues to catch up with other countries. I
really don't understand what is the point of having a series with a
continuing plot and then suddenly leave out over 30 issues. What good can
it do to the sales? Well, I think this was a financial decion but still...
it's no fun for the reader! Then it continued about a year and ended last
December. There was a vague promise of printing issues as books but
nothing has yet happened. This bugs me because in Scandinavia they at
least printed the whole PKNA series (excluding the zero issue).
It seems to be hard to publish any new series printing new material in
Finland. The ones reprinting stories from the weekly from some 15 years
ago seem to do well, but that really doesn't help me, because I have all
stories and know them.
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http:/www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
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Replicant-elokuvan loppuhuipennuksessa, jossa h?n potki ja
pieksi perusteellisesti itse??n." -Mikko Vienonen, IS 13.10.2001
> But yes, Scrooge occasionally does appear in [PKNA] comics, but they
> are completely different from any other duck comic i expect you to
> have seen, a very different style, that I somehow came to like... And of
> course now the magazine closes here becuase of too low sales.
Yes, I really liked them when they were published in Finland. The series
started here two and a half years later than in Scandinavia. The beginning
looked fine: they even published the famous 0th episode that was left out
in Scandinavia. But already after the second issue, they announced that
they are going to skip about 30 issues to catch up with other countries. I
really don't understand what is the point of having a series with a
continuing plot and then suddenly leave out over 30 issues. What good can
it do to the sales? Well, I think this was a financial decion but still...
it's no fun for the reader! Then it continued about a year and ended last
December. There was a vague promise of printing issues as books but
nothing has yet happened. This bugs me because in Scandinavia they at
least printed the whole PKNA series (excluding the zero issue).
It seems to be hard to publish any new series printing new material in
Finland. The ones reprinting stories from the weekly from some 15 years
ago seem to do well, but that really doesn't help me, because I have all
stories and know them.
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http:/www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
"Elokuvataiteen kannalta Van Damme on ollut merkitt?vimmill??n
Replicant-elokuvan loppuhuipennuksessa, jossa h?n potki ja
pieksi perusteellisesti itse??n." -Mikko Vienonen, IS 13.10.2001
Dim I Nticoudis
Scrooge's memorie and Flintheart's name
Message 88 -
2001-11-06 at 18:17:34
Thanks for the correction Harry.But Flintheart is seen in Glasgow in
Plunkett's Emporium(D 91210) which is not a Ducktales story.As for why
Scrooge knows Flintheart's name in this storie but doesn't recognize him in
"The Second Richest Duck" it could be attributed to Scrooge's bad
memorie.And Scrooge sure has one.In "Back to the Klondike"(W OS 456-02)he
has not forgotten about Glittering Goldie O'Gilt but about Donald Duck as
well!His own heir at the time!In "Hound of the Whiskervilles"(W US 29-04)he
has forgotten anout the McDucks and how theyt were among Scotland's greatest
families!In "The Money Chump"(W US 27-01) he has already forgotten about
Flintheart but he had met him just a while ago.If he can not remember such
important things then he could have forgotten about a rival he,once or
twice,met decades ago.
As for your comment on the "Spanish Low Lands" I haven't forgotten about
their situation at the time.As I like reading about historie,mainly European
historie,I couldn't ignore a historical figure such as Willem I of Oranje so
I ended up reading about how the northern Low Lands earned their
independance.But as you noticed Felippe II mainly used men from Spain for
his army so a member or lower Spanish nobilitie,as the De La Scalognas
were,could have enlisted in the army of the time and could set his home in
any territory ruled by the Spanish at the time.
As for Flintheart Glomgold's name it is quite interesting
indeed.Flintheart is equivalent to the words hardhearted,pitiless,heartless
and cruel.Excactly what this guy is.Glomgold.The second part gold refers to
his god probably.The god Money that is.I couldn't found any meaning on glom
but it can be related to the world gloom which is equivalent for the words
darkness,melancholy and depression which provides you with another way to
look at him.
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Plunkett's Emporium(D 91210) which is not a Ducktales story.As for why
Scrooge knows Flintheart's name in this storie but doesn't recognize him in
"The Second Richest Duck" it could be attributed to Scrooge's bad
memorie.And Scrooge sure has one.In "Back to the Klondike"(W OS 456-02)he
has not forgotten about Glittering Goldie O'Gilt but about Donald Duck as
well!His own heir at the time!In "Hound of the Whiskervilles"(W US 29-04)he
has forgotten anout the McDucks and how theyt were among Scotland's greatest
families!In "The Money Chump"(W US 27-01) he has already forgotten about
Flintheart but he had met him just a while ago.If he can not remember such
important things then he could have forgotten about a rival he,once or
twice,met decades ago.
As for your comment on the "Spanish Low Lands" I haven't forgotten about
their situation at the time.As I like reading about historie,mainly European
historie,I couldn't ignore a historical figure such as Willem I of Oranje so
I ended up reading about how the northern Low Lands earned their
independance.But as you noticed Felippe II mainly used men from Spain for
his army so a member or lower Spanish nobilitie,as the De La Scalognas
were,could have enlisted in the army of the time and could set his home in
any territory ruled by the Spanish at the time.
As for Flintheart Glomgold's name it is quite interesting
indeed.Flintheart is equivalent to the words hardhearted,pitiless,heartless
and cruel.Excactly what this guy is.Glomgold.The second part gold refers to
his god probably.The god Money that is.I couldn't found any meaning on glom
but it can be related to the world gloom which is equivalent for the words
darkness,melancholy and depression which provides you with another way to
look at him.
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Bad news
Message 89 -
2001-11-06 at 20:32:40
The entire Brazilian stories site, Livia and many of my
Disney web pages are down :-(
(This is because the provider has stopped its free service).
Just to let you know that I am working on it and will upload
the web pages on a new host as soon as possible...
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Disney web pages are down :-(
(This is because the provider has stopped its free service).
Just to let you know that I am working on it and will upload
the web pages on a new host as soon as possible...
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Francesco Spreafico
Bins
Message 90 -
2001-11-07 at 01:09:49
Da: "Dim I Nticoudis" <dimadick at hotmail.com>
> As for references about "The Money Ocean"'s plot not being this
> exciting,who said it is?
Well, I did (a couple of years ago though :-)
Actually I consider The Money Ocean the BEST story ever made by Marco Rota,
the best by *far*, and one of the best ever. Scrooge's expression when he
enters the bin and sees what's going on is really priceless... "Apocalyptic
vision of death!"
> Who came up with the idea there were more than one?Nobody
> seems to use this idea anymore but I don't know if this has anything to do
> with Don's influence.I just happened to notice there aren't even mentioned
> in the more recent stories.
Sometimes they are... and they were even before the Money Ocean. Most
Italian authors don't give a hoot about continuity, so if their plot needs
multiple bins, Scrooge will have multiple bins. This is a point of view that
I do not really like, but anyway it can also lead to great stories (Like the
Money Ocean, for example).
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Francesco
> As for references about "The Money Ocean"'s plot not being this
> exciting,who said it is?
Well, I did (a couple of years ago though :-)
Actually I consider The Money Ocean the BEST story ever made by Marco Rota,
the best by *far*, and one of the best ever. Scrooge's expression when he
enters the bin and sees what's going on is really priceless... "Apocalyptic
vision of death!"
> Who came up with the idea there were more than one?Nobody
> seems to use this idea anymore but I don't know if this has anything to do
> with Don's influence.I just happened to notice there aren't even mentioned
> in the more recent stories.
Sometimes they are... and they were even before the Money Ocean. Most
Italian authors don't give a hoot about continuity, so if their plot needs
multiple bins, Scrooge will have multiple bins. This is a point of view that
I do not really like, but anyway it can also lead to great stories (Like the
Money Ocean, for example).
--
Francesco