Hello there!
Maybe David can help me again with that...! ;-)
I was triyng to count, using the Inducks and the published strips here in
Brazil (as "normal" stories), precisally HOW MANY Sunday Strips exist of Z?
Carioca. I finish with the numer of 54 different strips, but since I don't
have all of then (and never read all on their original form) I can't say
it's correct!
Another question, the Panchito strip is the same JOC strip, or both existed
during the same time? All this JOC/Panchito strips are published in their
original form (tabloid?!) in the Netherlands? And about this Panchito's
Sunday Strips, how many existed?
Fernando!
(reader of Joe Carioca's stories since 1986)
Author
Topic: 200302
(428 messages)
Fernando Ventura
54 Joe Carioca's strips?!
Message 1 -
2003-02-01 at 00:46:52
Fernando Ventura
Another question about JOC's strips...
Message 2 -
2003-02-01 at 09:01:35
Rosinha is Maria, but what's the original name of Rocha Vaz (Rosinha's
father) on the Sunday strips?!
Thanks,
Fernando!
father) on the Sunday strips?!
Thanks,
Fernando!
Armando Botto
JOC and Panchito
Message 3 -
2003-02-01 at 10:15:29
Hi Fernando!
You wrote:
> I was triyng to count, using the Inducks and the published strips here in
Brazil (as "normal" stories), precisally HOW MANY Sunday Strips exist of Z?
Carioca. I finish with the numer of 54 different strips, but since I don't
have all of then (and never read all on their original form) I can't say
it's correct!
Z? Carioca was featured in the Sunday Pages from October 11th, 1942 to
October 1st, 1944, for a total of 102 appearances.
> Another question, the Panchito strip is the same JOC strip, or both
existed during the same time?
The series is the same. It was titled "Silly Symphonies" from 1932 to 1942,
then the title was changed to the main character's name, so the 102 JOC
pages are simply titled "Jos? (Joe) Carioca"; then the series becomes
"Panchito", from October 8th, 1944 to October 7th, 1945. However, Panchito
had already made a guest appearance in the "Jos? (Joe) Carioca" strips, in a
story about a horse race (April to August 1944).
> All this JOC/Panchito strips are published in their original form
(tabloid?!) in the Netherlands?
I don't know, but I'm sure some of our Dutch friends will answer this
question!
> And about this Panchito's Sunday Strips, how many existed?
53 Sundays in total.
Ciao,
Armando
You wrote:
> I was triyng to count, using the Inducks and the published strips here in
Brazil (as "normal" stories), precisally HOW MANY Sunday Strips exist of Z?
Carioca. I finish with the numer of 54 different strips, but since I don't
have all of then (and never read all on their original form) I can't say
it's correct!
Z? Carioca was featured in the Sunday Pages from October 11th, 1942 to
October 1st, 1944, for a total of 102 appearances.
> Another question, the Panchito strip is the same JOC strip, or both
existed during the same time?
The series is the same. It was titled "Silly Symphonies" from 1932 to 1942,
then the title was changed to the main character's name, so the 102 JOC
pages are simply titled "Jos? (Joe) Carioca"; then the series becomes
"Panchito", from October 8th, 1944 to October 7th, 1945. However, Panchito
had already made a guest appearance in the "Jos? (Joe) Carioca" strips, in a
story about a horse race (April to August 1944).
> All this JOC/Panchito strips are published in their original form
(tabloid?!) in the Netherlands?
I don't know, but I'm sure some of our Dutch friends will answer this
question!
> And about this Panchito's Sunday Strips, how many existed?
53 Sundays in total.
Ciao,
Armando
Martin Olsen
José Carioca
Message 4 -
2003-02-01 at 17:24:40
FERNANDO:
> > I was triyng to count, using the Inducks and the published strips here in
> Brazil (as "normal" stories), precisally HOW MANY Sunday Strips exist of Z?
> Carioca. I finish with the numer of 54 different strips, but since I don't
> have all of then (and never read all on their original form) I can't say
> it's correct!
ARMANDO:
> Z? Carioca was featured in the Sunday Pages from October 11th, 1942 to
> October 1st, 1944, for a total of 102 appearances.
>
Make that 104. (The Sunday page ran for two full years. The first strip was published on the second Sunday of October 1942, the last on the first Sunday of 1944. Thus 12 strips were published in 1942, 52 in 1943, and 40 in 1944.)
FERNANDO:
> Rosinha is Maria, but what's the original name of Rocha Vaz (Rosinha's
father) on the Sunday strips?!
The original name of Maria's father is Rocha Vaz.
Martin.
> > I was triyng to count, using the Inducks and the published strips here in
> Brazil (as "normal" stories), precisally HOW MANY Sunday Strips exist of Z?
> Carioca. I finish with the numer of 54 different strips, but since I don't
> have all of then (and never read all on their original form) I can't say
> it's correct!
ARMANDO:
> Z? Carioca was featured in the Sunday Pages from October 11th, 1942 to
> October 1st, 1944, for a total of 102 appearances.
>
Make that 104. (The Sunday page ran for two full years. The first strip was published on the second Sunday of October 1942, the last on the first Sunday of 1944. Thus 12 strips were published in 1942, 52 in 1943, and 40 in 1944.)
FERNANDO:
> Rosinha is Maria, but what's the original name of Rocha Vaz (Rosinha's
father) on the Sunday strips?!
The original name of Maria's father is Rocha Vaz.
Martin.
UNDBKB
Free Comic Book Day
Message 5 -
2003-02-01 at 22:18:30
> I'm hoping that Gemstone's Free Comic Book Day giveaway book will be widely
> available. It seems that last year, people were complaining that smaller,
> more independent publishers were hard to find, ....
>
> but when the giveaway book comes out, how difficult will it
> be to find? ( Disney Giveaway)
As a comic store owner, I ordered ( For last year's Free Comic Book Day
)according to the wishes of my regular customers.
The solicitation for most of the titles for this year's promotion came out in
January and are now in to Diamond.
The solicitation for the Disney titles is now in the current ( February
2003) order form.
Go tell your local shops you want the Disney titles for that day.
Any decent shop will order them for you.
If you still can not get the Disney titles, e-mail me after that day and I
will send out copies for the cost of the mailings.
If Europeans can not get these titles, let me know and I can send groups to
one location for re-distribution.
I am not allowed to sell these!
I will only charge you my cost for shipping.
Barry
UNDBKB at aol.com
> available. It seems that last year, people were complaining that smaller,
> more independent publishers were hard to find, ....
>
> but when the giveaway book comes out, how difficult will it
> be to find? ( Disney Giveaway)
As a comic store owner, I ordered ( For last year's Free Comic Book Day
)according to the wishes of my regular customers.
The solicitation for most of the titles for this year's promotion came out in
January and are now in to Diamond.
The solicitation for the Disney titles is now in the current ( February
2003) order form.
Go tell your local shops you want the Disney titles for that day.
Any decent shop will order them for you.
If you still can not get the Disney titles, e-mail me after that day and I
will send out copies for the cost of the mailings.
If Europeans can not get these titles, let me know and I can send groups to
one location for re-distribution.
I am not allowed to sell these!
I will only charge you my cost for shipping.
Barry
UNDBKB at aol.com
Rob Klein
Jose Carioca/Panchito
Message 6 -
2003-02-02 at 00:18:33
For Fernando: Until Harry Flucks or Daniel van Eijmeren or Roy Kooijman provide
the complete information, I'll try to answer some of your Carioca/Panchito
questions from memory:
The Jose Carioca and Panchito original King Features newspaper strips were
reprinted in The Netherlands during the early 1980s. The Panchito pages were
printed as the back cover of the Dutch Weekly during the last half of 1981. I
seem to remember some single Panchito pages also printed on an inside page in
1983? The Jose Carioca pages were serialised as two-page segments during 1981-
1983 (not every issue consecutive).
Yes, there was also Dutch own production of both characters' strips. They
started for both in the early 1980s, and have continued 'til the present. There
were a few individual short Carioca stories in the early 1980s of 1-3 pages,
but much production 1984-1986, was from a few 22 page stories and one 44 pager,
serialised in 3 page segments (a few were 2-page)in consecutive Weekly issues.
They were written mainly by Ruud Straatman and drawn by Colomer. From 1987-
1990, they were short individual stories (1-5 pages), written by Straatman and
a few by Wilma van den Bosch, and drawn by Colomer. Then, in the early 1990s,
much of the writing was done by Frank Jonker, drawn by Colomer, joined by Mau
and Bas Heijmans (Heymans). There were some longer stories of 20-22 pages
again. In the later 1990s, most stories have been 3-6 pages. As for Panchito,
the early Dutch production (1980s) were written by Straatman, later joined by
van den Bosch, and drawn by Colomer, of 1-5 pages. Many were drawn by Colomer,
but also by Blai and Studio Bonnet, with a few by Comicup studios. In the
1990s, most were written by Jonker. They were all individual stories (no
serialisation).
I'm sure Harry F. will correct any of my misrememberings and add information
(as he did the last time these questions were asked of the list.
Rob Klein
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the complete information, I'll try to answer some of your Carioca/Panchito
questions from memory:
The Jose Carioca and Panchito original King Features newspaper strips were
reprinted in The Netherlands during the early 1980s. The Panchito pages were
printed as the back cover of the Dutch Weekly during the last half of 1981. I
seem to remember some single Panchito pages also printed on an inside page in
1983? The Jose Carioca pages were serialised as two-page segments during 1981-
1983 (not every issue consecutive).
Yes, there was also Dutch own production of both characters' strips. They
started for both in the early 1980s, and have continued 'til the present. There
were a few individual short Carioca stories in the early 1980s of 1-3 pages,
but much production 1984-1986, was from a few 22 page stories and one 44 pager,
serialised in 3 page segments (a few were 2-page)in consecutive Weekly issues.
They were written mainly by Ruud Straatman and drawn by Colomer. From 1987-
1990, they were short individual stories (1-5 pages), written by Straatman and
a few by Wilma van den Bosch, and drawn by Colomer. Then, in the early 1990s,
much of the writing was done by Frank Jonker, drawn by Colomer, joined by Mau
and Bas Heijmans (Heymans). There were some longer stories of 20-22 pages
again. In the later 1990s, most stories have been 3-6 pages. As for Panchito,
the early Dutch production (1980s) were written by Straatman, later joined by
van den Bosch, and drawn by Colomer, of 1-5 pages. Many were drawn by Colomer,
but also by Blai and Studio Bonnet, with a few by Comicup studios. In the
1990s, most were written by Jonker. They were all individual stories (no
serialisation).
I'm sure Harry F. will correct any of my misrememberings and add information
(as he did the last time these questions were asked of the list.
Rob Klein
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Fernando Ventura
Armando, Martin, Rob: Thanks!!!
Message 7 -
2003-02-02 at 00:55:50
Armando, Martin and Rob, thank you soooooooooooo much for your answers!!!
It's very helpfull to me! As I told privately to David, I'm not writing only
about Renato Canini, I talk a lot about Jos? and Canini, "before and after
each other"! :-)
Rob, I have the old DCML messages about the Z? Carioca/Panchito Dutch
stories printed with me! I'll compare all this new information you got to me
with the "old" messages from you and Harry!
Fernando!
It's very helpfull to me! As I told privately to David, I'm not writing only
about Renato Canini, I talk a lot about Jos? and Canini, "before and after
each other"! :-)
Rob, I have the old DCML messages about the Z? Carioca/Panchito Dutch
stories printed with me! I'll compare all this new information you got to me
with the "old" messages from you and Harry!
Fernando!
Cord Wiljes
Euro exchange
Message 8 -
2003-02-02 at 02:04:53
Yes, this is in fact true: The old currency "Deutsche Mark" (DM) can be
exchanged for Euros without any time limit. The time limit was just for
exchange in the bank. If anybody still has DMs (or finds some as an
emergency reserve in his rich uncle walking stick) he can still exchange
them for the official exchange rate - but he has to go to an outlet of
the Bundeszentralbank.
Official information and an overview of the period in which old currency
can be exchanged in the EU countries (at least 10 years everywhere,
except coins) can be found here:
http://www.bundesbank.de/bargeld/faq/bargeld_faq_banknoten_euro.php
What would Scrooge do? Would he keep his old money? Or would he
transport it to the bank for exchange? would he biuld a money pipeline
for this?
Rob Klein wrote:
For Cord Wiljes: I'm quite surprised that a German is announcing we have
unlimited time to exchange our Deutschmark und pfenning for Euro. I was
sure
my business partners warned me that we only had a certain number of
months to
turn the money in to receive Euro in exchange. I can't remember if it
was less
than one year, or slightly more. If I remember correctly, they were
warning us
of this months BEFORE the switch was to be made. Perhaps such a deadline
was
proposed but then later dropped? Also, I thought I remember hearing the
same
in The Netherlands (a number of months or one year and a few months? I
don't
have any more old currency, but I'd still like to know. Perhaps some
other
members can clarify this for us.
exchanged for Euros without any time limit. The time limit was just for
exchange in the bank. If anybody still has DMs (or finds some as an
emergency reserve in his rich uncle walking stick) he can still exchange
them for the official exchange rate - but he has to go to an outlet of
the Bundeszentralbank.
Official information and an overview of the period in which old currency
can be exchanged in the EU countries (at least 10 years everywhere,
except coins) can be found here:
http://www.bundesbank.de/bargeld/faq/bargeld_faq_banknoten_euro.php
What would Scrooge do? Would he keep his old money? Or would he
transport it to the bank for exchange? would he biuld a money pipeline
for this?
Rob Klein wrote:
For Cord Wiljes: I'm quite surprised that a German is announcing we have
unlimited time to exchange our Deutschmark und pfenning for Euro. I was
sure
my business partners warned me that we only had a certain number of
months to
turn the money in to receive Euro in exchange. I can't remember if it
was less
than one year, or slightly more. If I remember correctly, they were
warning us
of this months BEFORE the switch was to be made. Perhaps such a deadline
was
proposed but then later dropped? Also, I thought I remember hearing the
same
in The Netherlands (a number of months or one year and a few months? I
don't
have any more old currency, but I'd still like to know. Perhaps some
other
members can clarify this for us.
Rob Klein
Euro/Deutschmark
Message 9 -
2003-02-02 at 03:48:03
For Cord: Didn't we answer all the Euro exchange questions many months ago???
I haven't seen any QUESTIONS regarding this off-topic topic, since then. Was
gibt???
Rob
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I haven't seen any QUESTIONS regarding this off-topic topic, since then. Was
gibt???
Rob
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2003-02-02 at 16:40:10
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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
D.Mark/Euro
Message 11 -
2003-02-02 at 21:59:09
Hi all!
Our friend Rob Klein stated that Cord Wiljes
posting about exhanging D-marks into Euro was
off-topic. But it was not entirely off-topic
because Cord wrote:
> What would Scrooge do? Would he keep his old
> money? Or would he transport it to the bank
> for exchange? would he biuld a money pipeline
> for this?
My answer to this question is that he most
probably would have keept the old money if
there were special memories conected to them
(ref: The Coin). If not he would most certainly
taken it to the bank very fast to have it
exhanged - well this is only my views...
Sigvald :-)
Our friend Rob Klein stated that Cord Wiljes
posting about exhanging D-marks into Euro was
off-topic. But it was not entirely off-topic
because Cord wrote:
> What would Scrooge do? Would he keep his old
> money? Or would he transport it to the bank
> for exchange? would he biuld a money pipeline
> for this?
My answer to this question is that he most
probably would have keept the old money if
there were special memories conected to them
(ref: The Coin). If not he would most certainly
taken it to the bank very fast to have it
exhanged - well this is only my views...
Sigvald :-)
Danehog
Access To All Ten CBL Volumes!
Message 12 -
2003-02-02 at 22:08:29
I know almost everyone despises posts advertising eBay auctions, but as I was
aimlessly browsing the eBay site, I came across someone who has all ten of
the Carl Barks Library hardcover volumes up for auction--separately.
Apparently, the starting bids are at $40.
If you're interested, check out the auctions here:
<A HREF="http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&query=The+Carl+Barks+Library+hardbound&cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&ht=1&from=R10&currdisp=2&itemtimedisp=1&st=2&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&BasicSearch=">http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&
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itemtimedisp=1&st=2&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&BasicSearch=</A>
I know this might be an incredibly pointless message, but I thought maybe
some of you are looking into obtaining the books. I'd bid if I had the
money...
--
Dane
(I'm American. Not Danish.
Really. That's my name.
I'm serious.)
aimlessly browsing the eBay site, I came across someone who has all ten of
the Carl Barks Library hardcover volumes up for auction--separately.
Apparently, the starting bids are at $40.
If you're interested, check out the auctions here:
<A HREF="http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&query=The+Carl+Barks+Library+hardbound&cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&ht=1&from=R10&currdisp=2&itemtimedisp=1&st=2&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&BasicSearch=">http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&
query=The+Carl+Barks+Library+hardbound&
cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&ht=1&from=R10&currdisp=2&
itemtimedisp=1&st=2&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&BasicSearch=</A>
I know this might be an incredibly pointless message, but I thought maybe
some of you are looking into obtaining the books. I'd bid if I had the
money...
--
Dane
(I'm American. Not Danish.
Really. That's my name.
I'm serious.)
Rob Klein
Scrooge vs. Euro
Message 13 -
2003-02-03 at 01:31:38
Regarding Scrooge's actions vis a vis changing old currencies to Euro:
I assume all the National Banks of the Euro Nations would have to base their
Euro printing (physical money supply)plans upon McDuck's exchange decisions. he
probably has a very large percenatage of the old currancies in circulation
(e.g. M1 -printed money supply). If he chooses to turn them in all at once;
the job of physically counting the money will take a long time. Each nation
might have to base their issuance of paper money on the phasing of that
counting, and the phasing of counting of the reimbersement Euro bills that
McDuck would surely want to start arriving as his old currency leaves his
possession. In other words, he would not want to wait until they count ALL of
the money, before receiving new bills.
I assume that Scrooge would want to exchange all paper money and coins for the
new money, as he is not in the business of losing value. As he would need bills
to sniff at, and coins to dive into and swim in, he would want the replacements
to start coming not too long after the first shipments of old denominations
leaving. This would have required the National Banks contacting him
immediately as they made the decision to make the monetary conversion. That
would have initiated the exchanges with McDuck, on the first day that the new
denominations were ready for the public. That process probably would take many
months, or a few years. The rate of the Banks providing new bills to him would
determine how many new bills and coins would be available to the general
public. My own guess is that they would start such a process with McDuck,
Glomgold and Rockerduck, long before the announcement of the exchange is made
public (for knowledge of the bulk of the population). Such a policy would not
be necessary for dealing with most billionaires, large corporations or foreign
governments, as 99% of their dealings are on paper (in computers)only. It is
only these three money fetishists that would have to be accommodated in this
way. As all governments aspire to having a given (optimum)percentage of printed
and coined money in circulation at any one time, their actions towards that
goal would depend strongly upon the decisions of those three money-grubbing
plutocrats as to the speed with which they want to effect the exchanges of
their soon-to-be-valueless money. I doubt that ANY of those three would want to
keep more than a few special bills or coins for sentimental reasons.
Rob
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I assume all the National Banks of the Euro Nations would have to base their
Euro printing (physical money supply)plans upon McDuck's exchange decisions. he
probably has a very large percenatage of the old currancies in circulation
(e.g. M1 -printed money supply). If he chooses to turn them in all at once;
the job of physically counting the money will take a long time. Each nation
might have to base their issuance of paper money on the phasing of that
counting, and the phasing of counting of the reimbersement Euro bills that
McDuck would surely want to start arriving as his old currency leaves his
possession. In other words, he would not want to wait until they count ALL of
the money, before receiving new bills.
I assume that Scrooge would want to exchange all paper money and coins for the
new money, as he is not in the business of losing value. As he would need bills
to sniff at, and coins to dive into and swim in, he would want the replacements
to start coming not too long after the first shipments of old denominations
leaving. This would have required the National Banks contacting him
immediately as they made the decision to make the monetary conversion. That
would have initiated the exchanges with McDuck, on the first day that the new
denominations were ready for the public. That process probably would take many
months, or a few years. The rate of the Banks providing new bills to him would
determine how many new bills and coins would be available to the general
public. My own guess is that they would start such a process with McDuck,
Glomgold and Rockerduck, long before the announcement of the exchange is made
public (for knowledge of the bulk of the population). Such a policy would not
be necessary for dealing with most billionaires, large corporations or foreign
governments, as 99% of their dealings are on paper (in computers)only. It is
only these three money fetishists that would have to be accommodated in this
way. As all governments aspire to having a given (optimum)percentage of printed
and coined money in circulation at any one time, their actions towards that
goal would depend strongly upon the decisions of those three money-grubbing
plutocrats as to the speed with which they want to effect the exchanges of
their soon-to-be-valueless money. I doubt that ANY of those three would want to
keep more than a few special bills or coins for sentimental reasons.
Rob
Klein
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Cord Wiljes
AW: Euro/Deutschmark
Message 14 -
2003-02-03 at 04:17:53
Rob Klein wrote:
> For Cord: Didn't we answer all the Euro exchange questions
> many months ago???
> I haven't seen any QUESTIONS regarding this off-topic topic,
> since then. Was gibt???
Well, who ever said I was fast? ;-)
> I assume that Scrooge would want to exchange all paper money
> and coins for the new money, as he is not in the business of
> losing value.
In Germany at least he could have kept the old money because
it will have its value without any time limit. He could not
spend it, of course (at least not without exchanging it for
new money first). But he would not have spent it anyway, wouldn't he?
Doesn't Scrooge already keep tons (and special pools) of
foreign and possibly outdated money at his bin?
Scrooge loses billions of value every day just by storing his
money instead of having the money work for him. Or has Duckburg
had a deflation for decades? I believe Scrooge is not in business
for value (i.e. spending power), but he just loves the money.
So I would follow Sigvald's opinion and suppose Scrooge would
cling to his old money.
He would have an additional problem with the Euro: The new coins have
a Nickel content which is much too high - so he could develop a
contact allergy. There is nothing better for your health than good
old gold dollars to dive in.
Cord
> For Cord: Didn't we answer all the Euro exchange questions
> many months ago???
> I haven't seen any QUESTIONS regarding this off-topic topic,
> since then. Was gibt???
Well, who ever said I was fast? ;-)
> I assume that Scrooge would want to exchange all paper money
> and coins for the new money, as he is not in the business of
> losing value.
In Germany at least he could have kept the old money because
it will have its value without any time limit. He could not
spend it, of course (at least not without exchanging it for
new money first). But he would not have spent it anyway, wouldn't he?
Doesn't Scrooge already keep tons (and special pools) of
foreign and possibly outdated money at his bin?
Scrooge loses billions of value every day just by storing his
money instead of having the money work for him. Or has Duckburg
had a deflation for decades? I believe Scrooge is not in business
for value (i.e. spending power), but he just loves the money.
So I would follow Sigvald's opinion and suppose Scrooge would
cling to his old money.
He would have an additional problem with the Euro: The new coins have
a Nickel content which is much too high - so he could develop a
contact allergy. There is nothing better for your health than good
old gold dollars to dive in.
Cord
H.W.Fluks
Joe Carioca strips
Message 15 -
2003-02-03 at 11:16:30
Fernando:
> All this JOC/Panchito strips are published in their
> original form (tabloid?!) in the Netherlands?
No, they are all reformatted to comic book format. The new layout was 4
tiers on a page. For some Panchito strips (but not all), it was 5 tiers a
page.
Rob wrote:
> The Panchito pages were
> printed as the back cover of the Dutch Weekly during the last
> half of 1981. I
> seem to remember some single Panchito pages also printed on
> an inside page in 1983?
Armando wrote that there are 53 Panchito strips. Only 26 of them were
printed on the back of a weekly (last half of 1980). 20 other ones are
scattered over the weeklies of the following years, mostly 1981-1986, but
also one in 1996 and one in 2000.
This means 7 Panchito strips are still unpublished in Holland.
BTW, these Dutch reprintings were all taken from Italian reprints of the
newspaper strips.
> Yes, there was also Dutch own production of both characters'
> strips.
> much production 1984-1986, was from a few 22 page stories
> and one 44 pager
That 44-pager was actually a 22-pager, re-layouted to 3-tier pages to fit in
a "mini-comic". You can still see from the drawings that the story was
originally drawn as a 22-page, 4-tier story. For instance some art on the
last page was duplicated (!).
> As for Panchito,
> the early Dutch production (1980s) were written by Straatman,
> later joined by van den Bosch, and drawn by Colomer
Actually, the very first Dutch Panchito story (1986) was already written by
Wilma van den Bosch.
--Harry.
(Fluks, not Flucks - though that spelling would better reflect the
pronunciation in English...)
> All this JOC/Panchito strips are published in their
> original form (tabloid?!) in the Netherlands?
No, they are all reformatted to comic book format. The new layout was 4
tiers on a page. For some Panchito strips (but not all), it was 5 tiers a
page.
Rob wrote:
> The Panchito pages were
> printed as the back cover of the Dutch Weekly during the last
> half of 1981. I
> seem to remember some single Panchito pages also printed on
> an inside page in 1983?
Armando wrote that there are 53 Panchito strips. Only 26 of them were
printed on the back of a weekly (last half of 1980). 20 other ones are
scattered over the weeklies of the following years, mostly 1981-1986, but
also one in 1996 and one in 2000.
This means 7 Panchito strips are still unpublished in Holland.
BTW, these Dutch reprintings were all taken from Italian reprints of the
newspaper strips.
> Yes, there was also Dutch own production of both characters'
> strips.
> much production 1984-1986, was from a few 22 page stories
> and one 44 pager
That 44-pager was actually a 22-pager, re-layouted to 3-tier pages to fit in
a "mini-comic". You can still see from the drawings that the story was
originally drawn as a 22-page, 4-tier story. For instance some art on the
last page was duplicated (!).
> As for Panchito,
> the early Dutch production (1980s) were written by Straatman,
> later joined by van den Bosch, and drawn by Colomer
Actually, the very first Dutch Panchito story (1986) was already written by
Wilma van den Bosch.
--Harry.
(Fluks, not Flucks - though that spelling would better reflect the
pronunciation in English...)