Don Rosa <donrosa at iglou.com> wrote:
> I hope I don't have similar trouble getting
> to Italia next weekend, but I'm to be there
> for over a week
Do the plans for you stay in Italy by any chance include a trip to your
ancestors hometown, Maniago?
Sigvald :-)
Author
Topic: 200302
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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
DCML digest #1271
Message 361 -
2003-02-23 at 14:20:45
Luca Boschi
Don Rosa in Italy
Message 362 -
2003-02-23 at 15:31:09
Hallo, All!
> Don Rosa wrote:
>
>> I hope I don't have similar trouble getting
>> to Italia next weekend, but I'm to be there
>> for over a week
>
> Do the plans for you stay in Italy by any chance include a trip to your
> ancestors hometown, Maniago?
>
> Sigvald :-)
Well, Maniago is really very far from Naples. If going to Napoli (to Castel
Sant'Elmo, for "Napoli Comicon", I remind) from Rome is a very easy task
(one hour or so by car or by train), from a small land in Northern Italy to
Rome... is a problem! No airports in Maniago; when Don was in Torino last
year it was possible to be planned...
Indeed just now, whil I was writing this very e-mail, a TV journalist called
me by phone to be sure that Don were in Italy the 7th of March, because he
wants to meet him...
Here in Italy the weather is fine, sunny, no clouds and no snow... At least
not in Tuscany and absolutely NO in Naples, where the sun always shines,
like in South California! :-)
Luca
> Don Rosa wrote:
>
>> I hope I don't have similar trouble getting
>> to Italia next weekend, but I'm to be there
>> for over a week
>
> Do the plans for you stay in Italy by any chance include a trip to your
> ancestors hometown, Maniago?
>
> Sigvald :-)
Well, Maniago is really very far from Naples. If going to Napoli (to Castel
Sant'Elmo, for "Napoli Comicon", I remind) from Rome is a very easy task
(one hour or so by car or by train), from a small land in Northern Italy to
Rome... is a problem! No airports in Maniago; when Don was in Torino last
year it was possible to be planned...
Indeed just now, whil I was writing this very e-mail, a TV journalist called
me by phone to be sure that Don were in Italy the 7th of March, because he
wants to meet him...
Here in Italy the weather is fine, sunny, no clouds and no snow... At least
not in Tuscany and absolutely NO in Naples, where the sun always shines,
like in South California! :-)
Luca
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Don Rosa in Italy
Message 363 -
2003-02-23 at 15:52:33
Luca Boschi <cnotw at zen.it> wrote:
> Well, Maniago is really very far from Naples.
> No airports in Maniago; when Don was in Torino
> last year it was possible to be planned...
OK, I see! Well, next time you could have your
festival in Venice in order to make it as easy
as possible for Don to visit Maniago, I think
he will apreciate such a thought!
Any way, this time you could instead take Don
to Vesuvio, the home area of Magica de Spell.
Sigvald :-)
> Well, Maniago is really very far from Naples.
> No airports in Maniago; when Don was in Torino
> last year it was possible to be planned...
OK, I see! Well, next time you could have your
festival in Venice in order to make it as easy
as possible for Don to visit Maniago, I think
he will apreciate such a thought!
Any way, this time you could instead take Don
to Vesuvio, the home area of Magica de Spell.
Sigvald :-)
Don Rosa
DCML digest #1272
Message 364 -
2003-02-23 at 15:58:09
From: mateusz lis (lis- at wp.pl)
>>>>>>>>>>If you are interested, here is an index of your stories publihed
in my country:
http://disneymania.w.interia.pl/don_rosa_index.htm. It's quite small, isn't
it?
That's natural. Disney comics have only relatively recently begun appearing
in Poland, right? They would therefore only be marketed toward very young
children. My stories are for the teen and adult readers, and there would be
no older readers in places where these comics have not been around for
decades so that a buyer base has been long established, grown, and grown
old. Wherever Disney comics are the most popular (which would of necessity
mean that it includes readers of *all* ages) is where they have been around
the longest without interuption in their publication. My stories are most
popular in a place like Italy or Finland where a reader might well be
sharing the same issue with his father and with his *son*, all of whom have
grown up reading Barks' Ducks.
I'm sure my stories are avoided in the Polish weekly, and I doubt if they
have ever been used at all in Russia or China or other new Egmont markets.
My stories are too complex for kiddies to read *or* look at, and certainly
too complex for editors and translators to want to screw with when there are
thousands of pages of much simpler material to work on. And it doesn't
matter to me! As you know, these comics don't pay royalties! (I just wish
they'd send me copies when they use my stories for my collection.)
Perhaps those Polish album collections of my works were aimed at older
readers, which is why they used up my stories there rather than in the
weekly. My stories are never used in the weekly JOURNAL DE MICKY, but seem
the star of the monthly PICSOU; never used in the weekly TOPOLINO, but are
prominent in the monthly ZIO PAPERONE; never used in the weekly Dutch DONALD
DUCK, but used in the monthly DONALD DUCK EKSTRA and are the star of the OOM
DAGOBERT album series. Seems like a good sales strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>If you are interested, here is an index of your stories publihed
in my country:
http://disneymania.w.interia.pl/don_rosa_index.htm. It's quite small, isn't
it?
That's natural. Disney comics have only relatively recently begun appearing
in Poland, right? They would therefore only be marketed toward very young
children. My stories are for the teen and adult readers, and there would be
no older readers in places where these comics have not been around for
decades so that a buyer base has been long established, grown, and grown
old. Wherever Disney comics are the most popular (which would of necessity
mean that it includes readers of *all* ages) is where they have been around
the longest without interuption in their publication. My stories are most
popular in a place like Italy or Finland where a reader might well be
sharing the same issue with his father and with his *son*, all of whom have
grown up reading Barks' Ducks.
I'm sure my stories are avoided in the Polish weekly, and I doubt if they
have ever been used at all in Russia or China or other new Egmont markets.
My stories are too complex for kiddies to read *or* look at, and certainly
too complex for editors and translators to want to screw with when there are
thousands of pages of much simpler material to work on. And it doesn't
matter to me! As you know, these comics don't pay royalties! (I just wish
they'd send me copies when they use my stories for my collection.)
Perhaps those Polish album collections of my works were aimed at older
readers, which is why they used up my stories there rather than in the
weekly. My stories are never used in the weekly JOURNAL DE MICKY, but seem
the star of the monthly PICSOU; never used in the weekly TOPOLINO, but are
prominent in the monthly ZIO PAPERONE; never used in the weekly Dutch DONALD
DUCK, but used in the monthly DONALD DUCK EKSTRA and are the star of the OOM
DAGOBERT album series. Seems like a good sales strategy.
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
The anniversary section has been completed!
Message 365 -
2003-02-23 at 17:35:35
Hi all!
As I have realized that "The D.U.C.K.man"
anniversary section has been interesting for
you I have added 6 more surprises (5 more
Danish covers - now they are all presented
- and finally an extra special surprise!!!)
But, just as with Christmas Calendars I feel
that after 24 entries it is time to stop...
..However if any of our Swedish friends here
can provide me with nice scans (at least
1000 pixels wide) of the Swedish DR Covers
I will add these as well to this page.
Sigvald :-)
As I have realized that "The D.U.C.K.man"
anniversary section has been interesting for
you I have added 6 more surprises (5 more
Danish covers - now they are all presented
- and finally an extra special surprise!!!)
But, just as with Christmas Calendars I feel
that after 24 entries it is time to stop...
..However if any of our Swedish friends here
can provide me with nice scans (at least
1000 pixels wide) of the Swedish DR Covers
I will add these as well to this page.
Sigvald :-)
Gary Leach
Flip (Flop)
Message 366 -
2003-02-23 at 17:54:29
Re: the flipping of Don Rosa covers -
As much as we may have fiddled with Don's covers at Gladstone, I do not
recollect a single instance in which we outright flipped (or flopped)
one. Most of his cover illustrations are models of painstaking
compositional symmetry, and can be readily flopped - but simply by
being such, there's never any need.
Gary
As much as we may have fiddled with Don's covers at Gladstone, I do not
recollect a single instance in which we outright flipped (or flopped)
one. Most of his cover illustrations are models of painstaking
compositional symmetry, and can be readily flopped - but simply by
being such, there's never any need.
Gary
Stefan Persson
Flip (Flop)
Message 367 -
2003-02-23 at 17:56:50
Gary Leach wrote:
> Re: the flipping of Don Rosa covers -
>
> As much as we may have fiddled with Don's covers at Gladstone, I do
> not recollect a single instance in which we outright flipped (or
> flopped) one. Most of his cover illustrations are models of
> painstaking compositional symmetry, and can be readily flopped - but
> simply by being such, there's never any need.
If there is a "D.U.C.K." dedication on the cover, an easy way to check
if it's mirrored is to search for the dedication.
Stefan
> Re: the flipping of Don Rosa covers -
>
> As much as we may have fiddled with Don's covers at Gladstone, I do
> not recollect a single instance in which we outright flipped (or
> flopped) one. Most of his cover illustrations are models of
> painstaking compositional symmetry, and can be readily flopped - but
> simply by being such, there's never any need.
If there is a "D.U.C.K." dedication on the cover, an easy way to check
if it's mirrored is to search for the dedication.
Stefan
Lgiver
Another reversed pair of covers on Sigvald's website
Message 368 -
2003-02-23 at 20:36:19
Hi Stefan:
I only noticed the 2 different versions, and wondered which
was mirrored, and why.
A few days ago Don Rosa replied regarding "Return to Xanadu", and
couldn't recall
which way he drew it 13 years ago. But he suspected it was reversed by
Gladstone. He gave a
quite lengthy discussion why he thinks they did this.
---------Larry.
================================================
Stefan Persson wrote:
> lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net wrote:
>
> > Now Sigvald has added more covers, and there is another reversed pair,
> > "Treasure Under Glass". On US 263, Scrooge is facing to
> > the right. The corresponding Anders And version has Scrooge
> > facing to the left. So this second example supports Don's
> > reason why he thinks Gladstone flipped these covers.
>
> Are you sure that it isn't the Danish version that's mirrored? Egmont
> *did* do that with a huge amount of their covers at that time...
>
> Stefan
>
>
I only noticed the 2 different versions, and wondered which
was mirrored, and why.
A few days ago Don Rosa replied regarding "Return to Xanadu", and
couldn't recall
which way he drew it 13 years ago. But he suspected it was reversed by
Gladstone. He gave a
quite lengthy discussion why he thinks they did this.
---------Larry.
================================================
Stefan Persson wrote:
> lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net wrote:
>
> > Now Sigvald has added more covers, and there is another reversed pair,
> > "Treasure Under Glass". On US 263, Scrooge is facing to
> > the right. The corresponding Anders And version has Scrooge
> > facing to the left. So this second example supports Don's
> > reason why he thinks Gladstone flipped these covers.
>
> Are you sure that it isn't the Danish version that's mirrored? Egmont
> *did* do that with a huge amount of their covers at that time...
>
> Stefan
>
>
Luca Boschi
Don Rosa at the Vesuvio volcano
Message 369 -
2003-02-24 at 00:12:56
Il giorno 23-02-2003 14:52, Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr., sigvald at duckburg.dk ha
scritto:
> Luca Boschi <cnotw at zen.it> wrote:
>
>> Well, Maniago is really very far from Naples.
>> No airports in Maniago; when Don was in Torino
>> last year it was possible to be planned...
>
> OK, I see! Well, next time you could have your
> festival in Venice in order to make it as easy
> as possible for Don to visit Maniago, I think
> he will apreciate such a thought!
>
> Any way, this time you could instead take Don
> to Vesuvio, the home area of Magica de Spell.
>
> Sigvald :-)
YOU TOLD IT! It shall happen! When Don will be in Naples, he will come with
us to vist the very places where magica's home-laboratory was guessed by
Carl Barks. This trip, maybe, shall take place une day or two *before*
Napoli Comicon inauguration. We hope that this visit to the Volcan can give
Don new suggestions for creating a new story... Maybe!
Luca
scritto:
> Luca Boschi <cnotw at zen.it> wrote:
>
>> Well, Maniago is really very far from Naples.
>> No airports in Maniago; when Don was in Torino
>> last year it was possible to be planned...
>
> OK, I see! Well, next time you could have your
> festival in Venice in order to make it as easy
> as possible for Don to visit Maniago, I think
> he will apreciate such a thought!
>
> Any way, this time you could instead take Don
> to Vesuvio, the home area of Magica de Spell.
>
> Sigvald :-)
YOU TOLD IT! It shall happen! When Don will be in Naples, he will come with
us to vist the very places where magica's home-laboratory was guessed by
Carl Barks. This trip, maybe, shall take place une day or two *before*
Napoli Comicon inauguration. We hope that this visit to the Volcan can give
Don new suggestions for creating a new story... Maybe!
Luca
Don Rosa
DCML digest #1272
Message 370 -
2003-02-24 at 02:25:13
From: Gary Leach (bangfish at comcast.net)
Subject: Flip (Flop)
>>>As much as we may have fiddled with Don's covers at Gladstone, I do not
recollect a single instance in which we outright flipped (or flopped)
one.
Ah, yes, there is!!! And not that I object, because I assume you needed the
UPC symbol on a certain side (?). But you flipped *at least* the cover of
UNCLE $CROOGE #295 and the matching cover to the 4th "Lo$" album. The proof,
as the man said, is in the fact that the "D.U.C.K." dedication is backwards.
So, there may have been others, but this proves there was at least the two
(or one, depending how you look at it)(which is backwards) covers that you
flipped (and-slash-or flopped).
>>> Most of his cover illustrations are models of painstaking
compositional symmetry, and can be readily flopped - but simply by
being such, there's never any need.
Oh, please!!! You're very kind, but you're seeing abilities and efforts that
are not there! All of my cover illustrations are simply the result of my
effort to get as MUCH into the scene as possible, regardless of the artistry
of the composition or the hourly labor fee.
Subject: Flip (Flop)
>>>As much as we may have fiddled with Don's covers at Gladstone, I do not
recollect a single instance in which we outright flipped (or flopped)
one.
Ah, yes, there is!!! And not that I object, because I assume you needed the
UPC symbol on a certain side (?). But you flipped *at least* the cover of
UNCLE $CROOGE #295 and the matching cover to the 4th "Lo$" album. The proof,
as the man said, is in the fact that the "D.U.C.K." dedication is backwards.
So, there may have been others, but this proves there was at least the two
(or one, depending how you look at it)(which is backwards) covers that you
flipped (and-slash-or flopped).
>>> Most of his cover illustrations are models of painstaking
compositional symmetry, and can be readily flopped - but simply by
being such, there's never any need.
Oh, please!!! You're very kind, but you're seeing abilities and efforts that
are not there! All of my cover illustrations are simply the result of my
effort to get as MUCH into the scene as possible, regardless of the artistry
of the composition or the hourly labor fee.
Lgiver
"SOC" on the truck of "Last Lord of El Dorado"
Message 371 -
2003-02-24 at 08:24:45
I just re-read Don Rosa's "Last Lord of El Dorado". Cataract
surgery last month has improved my vision, so I could use
my "eye for detail" reading this story. There's an interesting
design and the letters "SOC" on the truck doors, most
readily seen in panel 2, page 14. The design seems to show
several mountain peaks with 3 oil drilling rigs on them, with
the letters "SOC" (one letter on each rig). Do the letters
stand for "Scrooge Oil Company"? Usually the name
"McDuck" is part of a company name, not "Scrooge".
So I'm probably guessing wrong. What do these letters and
design mean?
Best wishes, Larry Giver.
surgery last month has improved my vision, so I could use
my "eye for detail" reading this story. There's an interesting
design and the letters "SOC" on the truck doors, most
readily seen in panel 2, page 14. The design seems to show
several mountain peaks with 3 oil drilling rigs on them, with
the letters "SOC" (one letter on each rig). Do the letters
stand for "Scrooge Oil Company"? Usually the name
"McDuck" is part of a company name, not "Scrooge".
So I'm probably guessing wrong. What do these letters and
design mean?
Best wishes, Larry Giver.
H.W.Fluks
Mirrored covers
Message 372 -
2003-02-24 at 10:47:47
Larry:
> When I pointed out that the covers on Sigvald's website for
> Return to Xanadu, part 2, were reversed on US 262 compared
> to the Anders And version. Don Rosa replied that this
> may have been flipped by Gladstone for US 262 so that
> Scrooge would face to the right, instead of left. Now Sigvald
> has added more covers, and there is another reversed pair,
> "Treasure Under Glass". On US 263, Scrooge is facing to
> the right. The corresponding Anders And version has Scrooge
> facing to the left. So this second example supports Don's
> reason why he thinks Gladstone flipped these covers.
Note that both comics were published by Disney Comics, not by Gladstone.
That may also be the reason that Gary (Gladstone editor) doesn't remember flipping these!
And Stefan is right: lots of covers that were drawn for Egmont were mirrored even in their first print in Scandinavia!
(I'm talking about any covers, not necessarily Rosa covers.)
--Harry.
> When I pointed out that the covers on Sigvald's website for
> Return to Xanadu, part 2, were reversed on US 262 compared
> to the Anders And version. Don Rosa replied that this
> may have been flipped by Gladstone for US 262 so that
> Scrooge would face to the right, instead of left. Now Sigvald
> has added more covers, and there is another reversed pair,
> "Treasure Under Glass". On US 263, Scrooge is facing to
> the right. The corresponding Anders And version has Scrooge
> facing to the left. So this second example supports Don's
> reason why he thinks Gladstone flipped these covers.
Note that both comics were published by Disney Comics, not by Gladstone.
That may also be the reason that Gary (Gladstone editor) doesn't remember flipping these!
And Stefan is right: lots of covers that were drawn for Egmont were mirrored even in their first print in Scandinavia!
(I'm talking about any covers, not necessarily Rosa covers.)
--Harry.
H.W.Fluks
Three Caballeros
Message 373 -
2003-02-24 at 10:49:39
Lis:
> http://www.serwis-komiksowy.pl/strefa_zagraniczna/img_okladki/k_kaczor_donald_13-2001.jpg
> this image is quite small, but I think you can answer this question:
> Is this a cover to Don Rosa "Three caballeros ride again"?
Yes. But a lot of details seem to be removed. It's even possible that the entire cover was re-inked, but I can't tell from the scan.
--Harry.
> http://www.serwis-komiksowy.pl/strefa_zagraniczna/img_okladki/k_kaczor_donald_13-2001.jpg
> this image is quite small, but I think you can answer this question:
> Is this a cover to Don Rosa "Three caballeros ride again"?
Yes. But a lot of details seem to be removed. It's even possible that the entire cover was re-inked, but I can't tell from the scan.
--Harry.
Kriton Kyrimis
"SOC" on the truck of "Last Lord of El Dorado"
Message 374 -
2003-02-24 at 10:56:50
LARRY:
> There's an interesting
> design and the letters "SOC" on the truck doors, most
> readily seen in panel 2, page 14. The design seems to show
> several mountain peaks with 3 oil drilling rigs on them, with
> the letters "SOC" (one letter on each rig). Do the letters
> stand for "Scrooge Oil Company"?
Southern Oil Company. This is a reference to the film
"La salaire de la peur" (The Wages of Fear). According
to Don, the truck "had everything except Yves Montand".
(http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2000-May/012810.html)
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Your species doesn't, uh, do anything, you know, *awful* when you get too
happy, do you? Like, you know, blow up or something?"
-----
> There's an interesting
> design and the letters "SOC" on the truck doors, most
> readily seen in panel 2, page 14. The design seems to show
> several mountain peaks with 3 oil drilling rigs on them, with
> the letters "SOC" (one letter on each rig). Do the letters
> stand for "Scrooge Oil Company"?
Southern Oil Company. This is a reference to the film
"La salaire de la peur" (The Wages of Fear). According
to Don, the truck "had everything except Yves Montand".
(http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2000-May/012810.html)
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Your species doesn't, uh, do anything, you know, *awful* when you get too
happy, do you? Like, you know, blow up or something?"
-----
Eta Beta
Don Rosa in Italy
Message 375 -
2003-02-24 at 14:09:58
LUCA, SIGVALD (and DON, of course)
>> Well, Maniago is really very far from Naples.
>> No airports in Maniago; when Don was in Torino
>> last year it was possible to be planned...
>
> OK, I see! Well, next time you could have your
> festival in Venice in order to make it as easy
> as possible for Don to visit Maniago, I think
> he will apreciate such a thought!
Well, first thing there really OUGHT to be a comics convention
in Venice, such a beautiful city, and so close to where I
live... :-)
Second, while there's indeed no airport in Maniago, the Trieste
one is only 50-60 Km. away (and 20 from my hometown) so it's
no big deal, assuming cost won't matter, of course.
That said, but Don already knows that, I'll be more than glad
to be his guide and/or translator whenever he'd feel like
visiting this part of the country :-)
Cheers!
Eta Beta
>> Well, Maniago is really very far from Naples.
>> No airports in Maniago; when Don was in Torino
>> last year it was possible to be planned...
>
> OK, I see! Well, next time you could have your
> festival in Venice in order to make it as easy
> as possible for Don to visit Maniago, I think
> he will apreciate such a thought!
Well, first thing there really OUGHT to be a comics convention
in Venice, such a beautiful city, and so close to where I
live... :-)
Second, while there's indeed no airport in Maniago, the Trieste
one is only 50-60 Km. away (and 20 from my hometown) so it's
no big deal, assuming cost won't matter, of course.
That said, but Don already knows that, I'll be more than glad
to be his guide and/or translator whenever he'd feel like
visiting this part of the country :-)
Cheers!
Eta Beta