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Hi Bernard, and welcome to the non-lurking DCMLers! 8-)

> Actually there where several stories of
> Don Rosa published in the Donald Duck. The first that
> I know of is the story: The Money Pit.

There were a few more, that were written either by Dutchmen, or (partly) by Barks.
But after those few stories, Rosa only appeared in the weekly in mini-booklets, where his artwork is printed too small...

> This isn't well known by you, Don Rosa, because you
> never got copies of your work that where published in
> other countries as you've said many times know.

Don *does* get copies, but not from the editor. He gets them from me. 8-)

> By the way, for Dutch readers of the mailing list,
> I've a good hunch that Don's story: Giro's First
> Invention will be published in the Donald Duck Extra
> nr. 4 of this year. For more information about that,
> you can go too the following site:
> http://members.lycos.nl/sanderdonaldduck/index.php

Interesting! Very well spotted by Sander Dijkhuis!

Here's a short translation:
<<
If you look at the letter page in weekly #8, you see a [small] picture of DD EXTRA #4 [which is not in the shops before the end of March!].
And if you look at the cover carefully, you see Donald hanging on a rope with a torch from a hole in the money bin.
And this also happens in "Gyro's First Invention"...
>>

--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
http://dd50.inducks.org
http://bolderbast.inducks.org

Don:

> Ah, yes, there is!!! And not that I object, because I assume you
> needed the
> UPC symbol on a certain side (?). But you flipped *at least* the cover
> of
> UNCLE $CROOGE #295 and the matching cover to the 4th "Lo$" album. The
> proof,
> as the man said, is in the fact that the "D.U.C.K." dedication is
> backwards.

Well, you may be right. The placement of the UPC symbol was a regular
aggravation. Still, I can't say that I recollect flopping even that
cover - blacking out the name "Titanic" on the stern of the ship, yes,
but flopping it, no.

So maybe you don't do it consciously; your covers are nevertheless
remarkably symmetrical. Many artists do covers that, when you flop
them, they just look strange. That's never been the case with yours. (I
know, because I like to check that sort of thing out on a lightbox, or
in a big picture window on a sunny day).

Gary

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> From: Bernard Slaa <slaab14 at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Don Rosa stories in the Dutch weeklies
> in nr. 27
> of 1999 there whas a little mini-comicbook
> was Don's "The Cowboy Captian of the Cutty Sark".
> In the numbers 13
> and 14 of 2001 was the story: "The Three Caballeros
> Ride Again" and in the numbers 21 and 22 of last year
> (2002) was the story: "The Crown of The Crusader
> Kings".

I'm wondering what to think about this practice. Are they using these mini
comics to promote the monthly EKSTRA? If so, of all the stuff in the EKSTRA
to reproduce in *extra tiny* size, why would they pick the most detailed art
that is *already* being printed too tiny even when it's in a normal sized
comic? Should I be complimented that they think that's the best they have in
the monthly? But any readers would look at those mini-comics and think "Gah!
Why would I want comics that give me a headache to look at and read?!"
But at least it's nice to see the Dutch use the continued versions of the
stories when they should, rather when they shouldn't, as is always the case
in EKSTRA.

> This isn't well known by you, Don Rosa, because you
> never got copies of your work that where published in
> other countries as you've said many times know.

*Don't put words in my mouth!* I never said that! I said that only the Dutch
publisher does not send me copies of my work. All other publishers whom I
have any contact with ALL send me copies. I don't get copies from Hungary or
other eastern Europe or Asian countries because I have no contact with them
and they are still of the pre-1980's mindset of Disney comics publishers
that seems to regard the stories as falling off trees or pulled up from
wells, as if the writers and artists are non-existent. But all central and
western European countries not only send me copies of my works but send me
at least one copy of *every* issue of their weeklies/monthlies, and
sometimes (France, Italy, Norway, Greece) send me up to 5 copies of
everything. (Yes, standard publishing practice is to send the writer and
artist 30 copies of each publication, which might mean I should get 60? But
I'm happy to just get 1.) However, even when I directly request it, the
Dutch publisher refuses to send me even one copy. Harry Fluks supplies me
with those, bless his lil' heart. (Maybe he'll have some for me in Napoli
next week!)
Oh, yeah. Then there's that darn American Disney publisher. They haven't
sent me a single comic in nearly 4 years!!! I sure hope they start again
SOON!

> By the way, for Dutch readers of the mailing list,
> I've a good hunch that Don's story: Giro's First
> Invention will be published in the Donald Duck Extra
> nr. 4 of this year. For more information about that,
> you can go too the following site:
> http://members.lycos.nl/sanderdonaldduck/index.php

Ah. That looks like a neat cover! But seeing as this is the Dutch
publication, too bad you'll not see the extra gag contained on the half-page
that they should be using instead of the inexplicable mid-story splash-panel
with plot recap that you know they will incorrectly use.
It will be interesting to see what they do when they get to my "Dream of a
Lifetime" where I finally adopted the *foolproof* double-version of my
stories, where a publisher *can't* leave anything out -- the worst they can
do is stupidly print an entire extra page of useless plot recap in the
middle of a story.

> From: Gary Leach <bangfish at comcast.net>
> Subject: Flip (Flop)
> Well, you may be right. The placement of the UPC symbol was a regular
> aggravation. Still, I can't say that I recollect flopping even that
> cover - blacking out the name "Titanic" on the stern of the ship, yes,

That's why you blacked out "Titanic". So it wouldn't say "Cinatit". I didn't
use that gag until "Dream of a Lifetime".
Oh -- you also flip-flopped the previous cover on U$ #294, with the Beagle
Boy and Teddy Roosevelt. Again, note the backwards dedication on the dollar
bill between $crooge's feet. It was the oval $crooge portrait inset that was
causing the problem. Bruce wanted the portraits in the upper left, but the
covers already were finished, drawn for the German publisher, so sometimes
the portrait wouldn't fit.

> So maybe you don't do it consciously; your covers are nevertheless
> remarkably symmetrical. Many artists do covers that, when you flop
> them, they just look strange. That's never been the case with yours.

PLEASE don't try to explain that to me! Like I said, it will make me
self-conscious, and worry me to death!

DON:

> Is anyone wondering why I keep spelling it "EKSTRA" rather than
> "EXTRA"? I sure am! I thought it was the Dutch who spell that word as
> "ekstra", but I must be thinking of some other country over yonder.
> The Dutch spell it the same way we do. Sorry.

No reason to. The home country of Egmont uses "Ekstra", although the 'x'
is slowly gaining land. The term "for example" can in Danish be
abbreviated "f.eks." but also "fx" even without any periods is allowed
nowadays (in Danish). "Extra" is a bit too hip and American-wannabe to
me, but I believe the Swedes have used it for ages?!

S?ren

(who can confirm that sex is still spelled "sex" in Danish :-)

Francesco Spreafico wrote:

>>If you don't want to spoil Scrooge's secret in
>>DCML, I would still like to know it via e-mail.
>
>
> But he said he doesn't remember! ;-)
>
> I'll tell you..
>
>
> s
>
> p
>
> o
>
> i
>
> l
>
> e
>
> r
>
>
> If I recall correctly, the secret of the totem (that is what was carried
> inside its head) was... Scrooge himself! He'd escaped the Indians hiding in
> there.
> Now, it's possible that I'm mistaken since I haven't read that story in at
> least 10 years, so if anybody can correct me...

I recently read a PK story that was about such a totem. There was some
kind of a bet between John D. Rockerduck and $crooge. Maybe this is by
the same creators... I?ll have to see if I can find.

--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa

Hi!
A while ago, we talked about the 1974 book "Donald Duck macht sein Gl?ck". I have a 1966 French print of the book, entitled "Donald Cherche fortune". I talked about it a while ago...
In it, the city of Donald is called Disneyville. Is it also true for the american and german publications?

Gilles