Hey Cord,
>3) Is intercourse physically possible? I remember a story in which Daisy
>was ashamed of Donald's physique. One of Daisys friends (a goose) had a
>boyfriend who was a boar - ennormously big and strong, at least three
>times bigger than the Ducks and could only say "snort".
I'm sorry to pick nits, but Daisy's friend is a Susy Swan, a swan,
and Susy's boyfriend is not a boar who can only say "snort", but Deltoid
Biceppa, an sort of ape (or apelike dog?) who can only say "grunt".
This is very important for those of us who are interested in pigs,
apes, grunting, and snorting. :-)
David
Author
Topic: 200302
(428 messages)
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Birth of Ducks
Message 196 -
2003-02-17 at 13:14:18
Cord Wiljes
Kohlrabi
Message 197 -
2003-02-17 at 13:18:19
Michael Schartau wrote:
> I prefere it fresh in a mixed sallad.
Beware, a larky! ;-)
Cord
> I prefere it fresh in a mixed sallad.
Beware, a larky! ;-)
Cord
Cord Wiljes
AW: Birth of Ducks
Message 198 -
2003-02-17 at 13:30:19
Hi David:
A boar who grunts having sex with a goose I could accept. A giant ape
who snoars having sex with a swan on the other hand is outrageous. How
could editors let this slip by? We should ban this story for the sake of
young children.
BTW: Could Bombi the zombi have sex? Would the children be half-undead?
Cord
A boar who grunts having sex with a goose I could accept. A giant ape
who snoars having sex with a swan on the other hand is outrageous. How
could editors let this slip by? We should ban this story for the sake of
young children.
BTW: Could Bombi the zombi have sex? Would the children be half-undead?
Cord
Sgarciab
Birth of Ducks
Message 199 -
2003-02-17 at 13:31:26
Cord:
>>If I take a generation as 30 years there were 67 generations since the
birth of Christ. So I could have 2^67 = 150.000.000.000.000.000.000
ancestors in the year 0.
Accuarte calculation, indeed. There is just one little fail: there are not
that many people on the world nowadays (even much less in year 0). You have
forgotten to remark that your calculation assumes that, since year 0, there
have been no one marriaging between related ones (even far-related ones).
That's, if I'm not wrong.
Nonetheless, the rest of the reasonment is quite OK.
Santiago.
>>If I take a generation as 30 years there were 67 generations since the
birth of Christ. So I could have 2^67 = 150.000.000.000.000.000.000
ancestors in the year 0.
Accuarte calculation, indeed. There is just one little fail: there are not
that many people on the world nowadays (even much less in year 0). You have
forgotten to remark that your calculation assumes that, since year 0, there
have been no one marriaging between related ones (even far-related ones).
That's, if I'm not wrong.
Nonetheless, the rest of the reasonment is quite OK.
Santiago.
Michael Schartau
Kohlrabi
Message 200 -
2003-02-17 at 13:39:44
No, I am serious. Peele it and slice it.
/Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cord Wiljes" <cord at wiljes.de>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:18 PM
Subject: kohlrabi
> Michael Schartau wrote:
> > I prefere it fresh in a mixed sallad.
>
> Beware, a larky! ;-)
>
> Cord
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
/Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cord Wiljes" <cord at wiljes.de>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:18 PM
Subject: kohlrabi
> Michael Schartau wrote:
> > I prefere it fresh in a mixed sallad.
>
> Beware, a larky! ;-)
>
> Cord
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
Cord Wiljes
AW: Birth of Ducks
Message 201 -
2003-02-17 at 13:48:27
Santiago:
Yes, you are right. The number is a hypothetical number assuming that no
one of my forefathers had the same ancestors. In reality they had, of
course, so the real number reduces dramaticaly. But nevertheless it
might be that at some point in the past, possibly 100.000 years ago,
there lived a (human) being which is the ancestor of all living humans
today. Or a single protoplamic cell 3.000.000.000 years ago which is the
ancestor of all living beings on earth today, including plants.
Cord
Yes, you are right. The number is a hypothetical number assuming that no
one of my forefathers had the same ancestors. In reality they had, of
course, so the real number reduces dramaticaly. But nevertheless it
might be that at some point in the past, possibly 100.000 years ago,
there lived a (human) being which is the ancestor of all living humans
today. Or a single protoplamic cell 3.000.000.000 years ago which is the
ancestor of all living beings on earth today, including plants.
Cord
Klartekst
Birth of Ducks
Message 202 -
2003-02-17 at 14:09:52
Leaving the technical details for a moment and turning to emotions: For
anyone interested in Donald's love life I can recommend "A New Feeling"
written by Kari Korhonen and drawn by Vicar (code D98051). Magica takes
Daisy's place as Donald's girl friend, and the reader learns a lot about
how Daisy and Donald spend their evenings together. It's a really beatiful
story.
Nils from Norway
anyone interested in Donald's love life I can recommend "A New Feeling"
written by Kari Korhonen and drawn by Vicar (code D98051). Magica takes
Daisy's place as Donald's girl friend, and the reader learns a lot about
how Daisy and Donald spend their evenings together. It's a really beatiful
story.
Nils from Norway
Cord Wiljes
Disney model sheets
Message 203 -
2003-02-17 at 14:18:25
In the past the German Disney magazine "Micky Maus" had nice specials
included: Sheets for building paper models. I vividly remember the
car-series: Daisy's car was completely pink and had an enormous hat
instead of a roof.
Here you can find a site which collects all these models as scans ready
for downloading as scans in color and high resolution, printing - and
hours of fun:
http://www.seite42.de
For example here is the series of Duckburg cars I mentioned:
http://www.seite42.de/77_27.htm
Have fun!
Cord
included: Sheets for building paper models. I vividly remember the
car-series: Daisy's car was completely pink and had an enormous hat
instead of a roof.
Here you can find a site which collects all these models as scans ready
for downloading as scans in color and high resolution, printing - and
hours of fun:
http://www.seite42.de
For example here is the series of Duckburg cars I mentioned:
http://www.seite42.de/77_27.htm
Have fun!
Cord
Cord Wiljes
AW: Disney model sheets
Message 204 -
2003-02-17 at 14:25:29
http://www.seite42.de
Which already is part of inducks.org, so probably everyone (except me)
already knew about this great site.
Cord
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Cord Wiljes [mailto:cord at wiljes.de]
> Gesendet: Montag, 17. Februar 2003 13:18
> An: Disney Comics Mailinglist (E-Mail)
> Betreff: Disney model sheets
>
>
> In the past the German Disney magazine "Micky Maus" had nice
> specials included: Sheets for building paper models. I
> vividly remember the car-series: Daisy's car was completely
> pink and had an enormous hat instead of a roof.
>
> Here you can find a site which collects all these models as
> scans ready for downloading as scans in color and high
> resolution, printing - and hours of fun:
>
>
>
> For example here is the series of Duckburg cars I mentioned:
>
> http://www.seite42.de/77_27.htm
>
> Have fun!
> Cord
>
Which already is part of inducks.org, so probably everyone (except me)
already knew about this great site.
Cord
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Cord Wiljes [mailto:cord at wiljes.de]
> Gesendet: Montag, 17. Februar 2003 13:18
> An: Disney Comics Mailinglist (E-Mail)
> Betreff: Disney model sheets
>
>
> In the past the German Disney magazine "Micky Maus" had nice
> specials included: Sheets for building paper models. I
> vividly remember the car-series: Daisy's car was completely
> pink and had an enormous hat instead of a roof.
>
> Here you can find a site which collects all these models as
> scans ready for downloading as scans in color and high
> resolution, printing - and hours of fun:
>
>
>
> For example here is the series of Duckburg cars I mentioned:
>
> http://www.seite42.de/77_27.htm
>
> Have fun!
> Cord
>
Rob Wilson
Music (was: food, but Not eggs!)
Message 205 -
2003-02-17 at 15:13:46
Greetings -
on 2/16/03 11:18 PM, Mary O'Benar at obie at sanctum.com wrote:
> Which brings the subject back to
> music-- does anyone have any info. that there was a Real World song
> that begins "Oh the World Owes Me a Living..."
Yep. It was the Grasshopper's theme song, in the animated Silly Symphony,
"The Grasshopper and the Ants". He sang the song a couple of times in the
short, to help establish his lazy character.
The Grasshopper was voiced by Pinto Colvig, who was the original voice of
Goofy, so Goofy also sang/hummed/mumbled the song in a few of his shorts,
although the only lyrics Goofy sang were,
"Oh, the world owes me a livin',
Deedle-diedle-dadle-diedle-dum - hyuk!"
> How about a tune for "Mophead Molly is Off Her Trolley?"
Got me on that one!
Take care -
Rob
on 2/16/03 11:18 PM, Mary O'Benar at obie at sanctum.com wrote:
> Which brings the subject back to
> music-- does anyone have any info. that there was a Real World song
> that begins "Oh the World Owes Me a Living..."
Yep. It was the Grasshopper's theme song, in the animated Silly Symphony,
"The Grasshopper and the Ants". He sang the song a couple of times in the
short, to help establish his lazy character.
The Grasshopper was voiced by Pinto Colvig, who was the original voice of
Goofy, so Goofy also sang/hummed/mumbled the song in a few of his shorts,
although the only lyrics Goofy sang were,
"Oh, the world owes me a livin',
Deedle-diedle-dadle-diedle-dum - hyuk!"
> How about a tune for "Mophead Molly is Off Her Trolley?"
Got me on that one!
Take care -
Rob
Olivier
Birth of Ducks, Music, Magica & Daisy
Message 206 -
2003-02-17 at 17:01:18
Hi everyone!
How I wish I had more time to join all these great discussions! Reading takes some time, but it's
very interesting.
And quite funny too--
Cord:
>>>> BTW: Could Bombi the zombi have sex? Would the children be half-undead?
Uh-- I don't know. I guess you can imagine such a zombie; it raises all sorts of questions about
the definition of death.
Mary:
>>>>"Oh the World Owes Me a Living..."
Rob beat me to it. I wonder, though, if you weren't already aware of it and were in fact asking
about such a song truly existing outside of (ie, prior to) the shorts.
>>>> How about a tune for "Mophead Molly is Off Her Trolley?"
This sounds sooo Walt Kellyish I wonder if it's not one of his crazy Carol lyrics-- "Deck the
Halls with Boston Charlie"; it works, too, try singing it. I'm pretty sure it is, but I'll check.
Hmmm-- The Pogo Page has "Nora's freezin' on the trolley" in the lyrics; either I'm mistaken, or
there's another version of the lyrics.
Nils:
>>>"A New Feeling" written by Kari Korhonen and drawn by Vicar (code D98051).
>>>Magica takes Daisy's place as Donald's girl friend, and the reader learns a lot about
>>>how Daisy and Donald spend their evenings together.
Reprinted in an issue of Super Picsou G?ant last year. it was a nice idea.
Best wishes,
Olivier
How I wish I had more time to join all these great discussions! Reading takes some time, but it's
very interesting.
And quite funny too--
Cord:
>>>> BTW: Could Bombi the zombi have sex? Would the children be half-undead?
Uh-- I don't know. I guess you can imagine such a zombie; it raises all sorts of questions about
the definition of death.
Mary:
>>>>"Oh the World Owes Me a Living..."
Rob beat me to it. I wonder, though, if you weren't already aware of it and were in fact asking
about such a song truly existing outside of (ie, prior to) the shorts.
>>>> How about a tune for "Mophead Molly is Off Her Trolley?"
This sounds sooo Walt Kellyish I wonder if it's not one of his crazy Carol lyrics-- "Deck the
Halls with Boston Charlie"; it works, too, try singing it. I'm pretty sure it is, but I'll check.
Hmmm-- The Pogo Page has "Nora's freezin' on the trolley" in the lyrics; either I'm mistaken, or
there's another version of the lyrics.
Nils:
>>>"A New Feeling" written by Kari Korhonen and drawn by Vicar (code D98051).
>>>Magica takes Daisy's place as Donald's girl friend, and the reader learns a lot about
>>>how Daisy and Donald spend their evenings together.
Reprinted in an issue of Super Picsou G?ant last year. it was a nice idea.
Best wishes,
Olivier
Donald D. Markstein
Birth of Ducks
Message 207 -
2003-02-17 at 18:14:30
> Just because Gus Goose has the last name "Goose", and Grandma Duck has
"Duck"
> does not prove to me that they are from different species. I have the
family
> name "Klein", but I am not small as men go. Surnames in this parallel
world do
> not necessarily mean that those beings are members of, or their families
> originated from that particular species.
You are correct that just because Gus's surname is "Goose" doesn't mean he
actually is one. That's why I didn't cite Donald's cousin, Gladstone, as a
non-duck with a blood relation to a duck, tho of course one DOES wonder how
he happened to come by the name "Gander".
However, irrespective of names, Gus DOES happen to be a goose, at least to
the extent that Grandma is a duck. He's no more similar to the ducks than
Clarabelle is to Horace, and that's a pairing you cited as a clear example
of bestiality.
Of course, we ALL know that, as you state, they can't POSSIBLY be mere
different races of the same species. After all, look how similar all the
different races of dogs in our own world are to one another.
I'm reminded of a series in American DC comics of the 1940s, J. Rufus Lion.
Rufe is a lion, as implied by the name, and his wife is a chicken. Their son
is a giraffe.
Quack, Don
Today in Toons: Every day's an anniversary.
http://www.toonopedia.com/today.htm
"Duck"
> does not prove to me that they are from different species. I have the
family
> name "Klein", but I am not small as men go. Surnames in this parallel
world do
> not necessarily mean that those beings are members of, or their families
> originated from that particular species.
You are correct that just because Gus's surname is "Goose" doesn't mean he
actually is one. That's why I didn't cite Donald's cousin, Gladstone, as a
non-duck with a blood relation to a duck, tho of course one DOES wonder how
he happened to come by the name "Gander".
However, irrespective of names, Gus DOES happen to be a goose, at least to
the extent that Grandma is a duck. He's no more similar to the ducks than
Clarabelle is to Horace, and that's a pairing you cited as a clear example
of bestiality.
Of course, we ALL know that, as you state, they can't POSSIBLY be mere
different races of the same species. After all, look how similar all the
different races of dogs in our own world are to one another.
I'm reminded of a series in American DC comics of the 1940s, J. Rufus Lion.
Rufe is a lion, as implied by the name, and his wife is a chicken. Their son
is a giraffe.
Quack, Don
Today in Toons: Every day's an anniversary.
http://www.toonopedia.com/today.htm
Vidar Svendsen
Half of Norway
Message 208 -
2003-02-17 at 19:15:25
ACS:
>I had a nice trip to Kristiansand - I bought issues of the weekly and the
>monthly and enjoyed myself
you mean you went to Kristiansand, and didn't tell me? hm......
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen http://home.c2i.net/vidarland/
"Nothing travels faster than the speed of light
with the possible exception of bad news,
which obeys its own special laws."
>I had a nice trip to Kristiansand - I bought issues of the weekly and the
>monthly and enjoyed myself
you mean you went to Kristiansand, and didn't tell me? hm......
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen http://home.c2i.net/vidarland/
"Nothing travels faster than the speed of light
with the possible exception of bad news,
which obeys its own special laws."
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Minor corrections to ACs nice report
Message 209 -
2003-02-17 at 21:15:08
<anders_sivebaek at nns.dk> wrote:
> Happy to meet eachother again we drove to the
> house where Sigvald and his father (also called
> Sigvald - they are the 3th and 4th of that name
> in the family, starting with the great
> grandfather
Actually MY great grandfather, Sigvald the Ist is
also Geir J. Netlands great, great grandfather!
> Do you know IVV? Internationaler Vander
> Vorbund
The correct is: "Internationaler Volkssportverband".
> arrange walking trips all over. We went on a
> trip in Sandnes, which was maybe around 5 km
> or so.
Actually we went ca. 10km, AC...
> This day Sigvald's father had made Komler
> - a Norwegian potato ball with flour,
Correct - it's made of both fresh and boiled
potatoes.
> along with this pork, sausage and k?lrabi ...
> hmm, i can't seam to find the english word
> for that last ingredience...
I guess it must be "turnip". Anyway "K?lrabi"
or "K?lrot" as it's also called in Norwegian
was the vegetable that the pig villain had
put into glasses and wanted to sell in the
Barks' classic "Forbidden Valley" (well at
least in the Norwegian translation).
> Home at Sigvald we had a quiz that Sigvald
> gave to Geir Hasnes and Olaf Solstrand when
> they met - I had all 20 questions right.
No this was the quiz Geir Hasnes gave to me
and Olaf Solstrand (I had 20 and Olaf 19 correct
answers) in Trondheim last October!
Sigvald :-)
> Happy to meet eachother again we drove to the
> house where Sigvald and his father (also called
> Sigvald - they are the 3th and 4th of that name
> in the family, starting with the great
> grandfather
Actually MY great grandfather, Sigvald the Ist is
also Geir J. Netlands great, great grandfather!
> Do you know IVV? Internationaler Vander
> Vorbund
The correct is: "Internationaler Volkssportverband".
> arrange walking trips all over. We went on a
> trip in Sandnes, which was maybe around 5 km
> or so.
Actually we went ca. 10km, AC...
> This day Sigvald's father had made Komler
> - a Norwegian potato ball with flour,
Correct - it's made of both fresh and boiled
potatoes.
> along with this pork, sausage and k?lrabi ...
> hmm, i can't seam to find the english word
> for that last ingredience...
I guess it must be "turnip". Anyway "K?lrabi"
or "K?lrot" as it's also called in Norwegian
was the vegetable that the pig villain had
put into glasses and wanted to sell in the
Barks' classic "Forbidden Valley" (well at
least in the Norwegian translation).
> Home at Sigvald we had a quiz that Sigvald
> gave to Geir Hasnes and Olaf Solstrand when
> they met - I had all 20 questions right.
No this was the quiz Geir Hasnes gave to me
and Olaf Solstrand (I had 20 and Olaf 19 correct
answers) in Trondheim last October!
Sigvald :-)
Rob Klein
Songs/Fandom/Kohlrabi
Message 210 -
2003-02-17 at 21:35:14
I agree with Don R., that it is up to the fan to decide how he/she perceives
the Disney Universes. As Disney Publications desires the widest range of
purchasers, there cannot be consistency over ALL the stories. It is true that
Barks thought of the Ducks as parodies of humans. But if a fan reads the
stories with that parody in mind, it is too difficult to go into that world
and "live in it". one is constantly aware that he/she is looking at and reading
an author's clever view of human nature. For those of us who wish to mentally
enter that world and live in the story, we have to make subconscious
assumptions about how that world works. I HAVE to make a decision as to whether
or not the Ducks hatch from eggs and can mate with very different looking
beings. It's difficult for me to ignore having seen Donald hatch from an egg.
As Don R. implied: each fan to his own taste. As for Barks, I am sure he knew
that it was not necessary to delve into those issues to enjoy any given story.
Thanks Rob W., for the info on "The World Owes Me a Livin'"-I too, remembered
that from the Goofy shorts. It was a catchy tune. Perhaps it was being sung
and hummed by a lot of workers at the Studios. It represents a very rare
occurance in the work of Barks. Almost ALL his songs, films, book titles,
poetic use of people's addresses and related items in stories were of his OWN
creation, as a parody of something popular in real life, either at that very
time-or from his experience in earlier times. Actually, this is the ONLY
instance I can think of, of his borrowing a name or piece of artwork from the
real World. In this instance, that song must have been strongly on his mind (at
least subconsciously). Or, he took something from the real World, as it so well
fit his needs, being perfect for his character and needed attitude in that
story. Mophead Molly is most certainly an invention of Barks-as was "Winsome
Winney from West Virginny", the Cowboy film titles, the baseball players' names
in the Niagara Falls story and so on. I will be curious to see if anyone can
find another example of Barks using an actual reference from the real World,
without his having changed it, at least a bit.
Regarding Kohlrabi (spelling of which must have been taken directly from German
by English):
I guess I'm getting senile. I lived on a farm, (just outside Bremen)for 5
years. We grew Kohlrabi. I knew what it was called then. We ate it steamed,
raw in salads (covered in horseradish sauce), -but my favourite was in a soup
(with other types of turnips, potatoes, carrots and parsnips and beef or
chicken stock. It would also go well in a cream soup.
Rob
Klein
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the Disney Universes. As Disney Publications desires the widest range of
purchasers, there cannot be consistency over ALL the stories. It is true that
Barks thought of the Ducks as parodies of humans. But if a fan reads the
stories with that parody in mind, it is too difficult to go into that world
and "live in it". one is constantly aware that he/she is looking at and reading
an author's clever view of human nature. For those of us who wish to mentally
enter that world and live in the story, we have to make subconscious
assumptions about how that world works. I HAVE to make a decision as to whether
or not the Ducks hatch from eggs and can mate with very different looking
beings. It's difficult for me to ignore having seen Donald hatch from an egg.
As Don R. implied: each fan to his own taste. As for Barks, I am sure he knew
that it was not necessary to delve into those issues to enjoy any given story.
Thanks Rob W., for the info on "The World Owes Me a Livin'"-I too, remembered
that from the Goofy shorts. It was a catchy tune. Perhaps it was being sung
and hummed by a lot of workers at the Studios. It represents a very rare
occurance in the work of Barks. Almost ALL his songs, films, book titles,
poetic use of people's addresses and related items in stories were of his OWN
creation, as a parody of something popular in real life, either at that very
time-or from his experience in earlier times. Actually, this is the ONLY
instance I can think of, of his borrowing a name or piece of artwork from the
real World. In this instance, that song must have been strongly on his mind (at
least subconsciously). Or, he took something from the real World, as it so well
fit his needs, being perfect for his character and needed attitude in that
story. Mophead Molly is most certainly an invention of Barks-as was "Winsome
Winney from West Virginny", the Cowboy film titles, the baseball players' names
in the Niagara Falls story and so on. I will be curious to see if anyone can
find another example of Barks using an actual reference from the real World,
without his having changed it, at least a bit.
Regarding Kohlrabi (spelling of which must have been taken directly from German
by English):
I guess I'm getting senile. I lived on a farm, (just outside Bremen)for 5
years. We grew Kohlrabi. I knew what it was called then. We ate it steamed,
raw in salads (covered in horseradish sauce), -but my favourite was in a soup
(with other types of turnips, potatoes, carrots and parsnips and beef or
chicken stock. It would also go well in a cream soup.
Rob
Klein
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