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KnatteFnatteTjatte
Jyrki Vainio wrote:

> I didn't know whether to label this message OT or not, but I
> just got back from the discount sale at the Akateeminen
> Kirjakauppa bookshop in Helsinki and they had some copies of
> both of the Don Rosa Archives hardbacks (The Pertwillaby Papers
> and The Adventures of Captain Kentucky) available for EUR 7.90
> a piece! The original price tag was EUR 36,50!! They still had
> about five of each after I left...

Today there was still about 10 copies left in Akateeminen kirjakauppa in
Tapiola, Espoo. The price was now 4,74 euro because the discount sale ends
tomorrow (?) and everything goes for 40% off ("loppurys?ys").

-KFT-
Crocker, John
Dan wrote:
"More and more of our imports come from overseas."-GWB

I realize this at first sounds humorously ridiculous. But in reality, many imports can and are expected to come from bordering countries rather than overseas.

Also, I probably shouldn't ask, but I am not familiar with "Air Pirate Funnies." Can someone fill me in? (scans?)

Later,
John Crocker.
(An accountant without a job, and I'm one of the good guys, too...I swear!)
Cord Wiljes
John Crocker wrote:

> Also, I probably shouldn't ask, but I am not familiar with
> "Air Pirate Funnies." Can someone fill me in? (scans?)

Sorry, no scans because I fear being sued into the ground by lawyers of
a big media company I won't name. But here is a complete answer by David
Gerstein from some years ago
(http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/air-pirates.txt)

(...)
Another rip-off of the Disney characters is "Air Pirates
Funnies," an early-1970s Gottfredson parody by Dan O'Neill that has
Mickey, Minnie, Pegleg Pete, Sylvester Shyster and others doing
various illegal things. This may have been intended as an homage of
sorts, but brought only a lawsuit... and IMHO it was so tasteless
(even for a satire) that I can see why Disney took offense. And while
it may have been intended as an homage to Gottfredson, I can only
wonder what he thought of it.
(...)

I might add that in addition to the "various illegal things" things
David mentions, Mickey and Minnie do some private things which are not
exactly illegal but are not normally done by Disney characters - or at
least not in public ;-)

Cord
Goofy313g
Hi!
I wanted to update my Duck Family tree page,

http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/myducktree.html

and i just finished to remake the drawing (i re scanned and cleaned every
character)
I didn't finish the commentaries about each character, so i let the old page, but,
after Don Rosa's advices, I put the new version on another page:

http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/testducktree.html

Feel free to take look at it.
so far, it countains every duck relative shown in a comic story or a cartoon, at
least all of the characters that have been discussed here, all the characters i have
in my collection, and a lot of characters i found searching in coa, or thanks to dcml
friends...
please, send your commentaries, but do not ask questions about the characters yet, as
the final version of the tree is amost ready, with a commentary about every character...
Note that this is a temporary test page.
Have fun!!!
Gilles MAURICE
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/
Donald D. Markstein
> >That's a popular belief, but incorrect. ...upgrade the production values
>
> Oh!? Thanks for the correction. This "fact" appears in many books and
> sources...

I'm not a bit surprised. The story does have a nice resonance, and ties in
quite nicely with well-known historical facts. A good source to counter it
with the correct version would be "Mad: A History of the Comic Book and
Magazine", by Maria Reidelbach, published by Little, Brown and Company in
1991. Also, if you simply look at the dates, you'll see that MAD converted
to the new format long before the rest of the line was converted to
"picto-fiction", a good plausibility argument for it having done so for
different reasons.

And no, this is not off-topic. MAD once did a parody called "Darnold Duck",
so you see, it falls squarely within the realm of Disney comics.

Quack, Don

Today in Toons: Every day's an anniversary.
http://www.toonopedia.com/today.htm
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Hi all!

The D.U.C.K.man's anniversary celebrations
goes on - now with some special surprise
gifts for my Danish friends - enjoy!

http://duckman.pettho.com

Sigvald :-)
Dan Rosenberg
John wrote:

>I realize this at first sounds humorously ridiculous. But in reality, many >>
>imports can and are expected to come from bordering countries rather >>
>than overseas.

The term overseas is often used to refer to outside of the country. It is not
necessarily to be taken literally. But you're also right. I think it just depends
on the context of the statement. He may have referred to countries "across
the sea." I think it's funnier my way, though. ;-)

"Well, I think if you say you're going to do something and don't do it, that's
trustworthiness."?GWB

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Lgiver
Sigvald's webpage has 12 Don Rosa covers; there are 2 pairs, "Son of the
Sun"
and "Return to Xanadu (second part)". The surprise for me was the Disney
printing for Xanadu, US 262, was reversed left-to-right compared to the
Anders An cover. So which was did Don Rosa really draw it, and who
flipped it over, and why?
----------Best wishes,
Larry Giver.
Shad Z.
Disney Adventures vol 13, no 2 (March 2002)

Continuing my listing of what's in this month's issue
of the only current source for Disney comics in
America...

Matt Feazel's content page doodles (Dizzy Adventures) are
given story code JZ709.

A two-page article asking readers to select a new member
of the Jet Pack Pets is given story code JZ711, but it
is in no way a comic book story.

1) ?Mucha Lucha!: "Mucha Madness!", no code, 2 pages.
Story by Warner Bros. Anamation & Steve Behling. Pencils
and inks by Matt Danner/Warner Bros. Anamation.
"?Mucha Lucha!" is not a Disney property, it is copyright
Warner Bros.

2) Disney's Tall Tales, JZ707, 1 page.
Writing and art by Glenn McCoy.
Characters include Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and Goofy.

3) The Hair Pair: no title, JZ708, 1/2 page.
No credits.
"The Hair Pair" is apparently not a Disney property, this
one is marked copyright Charly La Greca. Earlier Hair
Pair strips had no special copyright, leading me to
believe Disney owned it, but that was apparently not the
case.

4) The Proud Family: "Best Laid Floor Plans", no code, 2
pages.
No credits.
Characters include Oscar Proud and Penny Proud.
The art for this story seems to be frames taken from a
Proud Family cartoon.

5) Power Rangers Ninja Storm: "Klezak Attack", JZ710, 2
pages.
Story by John Green. Pencils and inks by Steven Butler.
Characters include Blue Ranger/Tori, Yellow Ranger/Dustin,
Red Ranger/Shane, Lothor and several Klezaks.
I've learned a little bit more about Disney's acqusition of
Saban since the last time the Power Rangers were in DA, and
I have confirmed that Disney is not running Saban as a
seperate division. Disney has dismanteled Saban and
assigned the various Saban properties to different Disney
divisions. I do not know yet if Power Ranger has been
assigned to Disney, or to ABC Family (the two logical
choices). I will watch an episode soon, and see what the
copyright notice at the end says.

6) Little Gloomy: "The Glob!", JZ706, 4 pages.
Story by Landry Quinn Walker. Pencils and inks by Eric
Jones.
"Little Gloomy" is not a Disney property, it is copyright
Landry Quinn Walker & Eric Jones.

7) Jet Pack Pets: "Tiki Trouble", JZ705, 4 pages.
Story by Michael Stewart. Pencils and inks by Scott
Koblish.
"Jet Pack Pets" is not a Disney property, it is copyright
Michael Stewart & Garry Black.

8) The Last Laugh: "Who Are the Cool Pet Pop Stars of
2003?", JZ703, 1 page.
Written by John Green. Art by Charly La Greca.
Yes, I know that is the same story code that was given to
"the Last Laugh" last month.

The cover says there are 20 pages of new comics inside, but
I only count 16.5. If you count the Jet Pack Pets article,
that still just 18.5. Adding "Dizzy Adventures" does't help,
since it is only 1/3 of a page.

Shad Z. ^Q^
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Klartekst
<A good source to counter it with the correct version would be "Mad: A
History of the Comic Book and Magazine", by Maria Reidelbach>

Another source that supports the correct version is Frank Jacob's hilarious
"The Mad World of William M. Gaines" from 1972. You can still get it on
Amazon. It's one of the funniest books I have ever read.

Nils from Norway
Timo Ronkainen
>I wanted to update my Duck Family tree page,

Excellent job in any scale! All that as a poster would be really big one!

>I put the new version on another page:

Pictures are much brighter on there.
Instead of having explanations on bottom of the page, it would be nice to
have text info on pop-up window that comes out of each character. But can it
be done? And it might be too big workload...

Timo

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>special surprise
>gifts for my Danish friends - enjoy!

I think they were much better surprises for non-Danish Duck-fans, since
there were couple of lovely covers by Rosa I hadn't seen before. Thanks!
"Her er ditt liv..." should be re-coloured although... Because old 19th
century color photos are very rare.. :-/ I'd like to this cover with sepia
tones.

Timo

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Goofy313g
TIMO:
>>>Instead of having explanations on bottom of the page, it
>>>would be nice to
>>>have text info on pop-up window that comes out of each
>>>character. But can it
>>>be done? And it might be too big workload...

I had the same idea already, but i create my pages with
netscape composer, so it's impossible to do so right now, but
maybe i'll do this some day... I have to try this! I just
have to find a good program to create webpages... i have tons of design projects for my site, but i can't work on that
right now, i first have to update the duck family tree,
mouse, and goofy family trees, the maps section, and then
I'll see for the design (maybe i'll make several frames,...)

Gilles
Timo Ronkainen
>I had the same idea already, but i create my pages with
>netscape composer,

I use that too, since it's free. Reasonably good for simple web design.
I have tried to make pop-ups with ready made java script, without success...
:-/ Maybe someone here might know simple solution for this?

Timo

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Final call...
Don Rosa will be at a comic book show in Boston
on Sunday - Feb.23,2003 at the Radisson Hotel
at 200 Stuart Street. There is a parking garage.
Admission is $5 and the show runs 10am to 4pm.
Early preview is $10 if you want to get in at 8:30am.

Use the following url for more details:
http://www.monkeyhouse-entertainment.com/shows.htm
Also on this site is a coupon for $1 off the admission.

Don will also be in Naples,Italy on March 7-9,2003.
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Ironically, I will not be at the Boston show due to a
bad back. I hope any fans in the area can attend and
give Don a warm welcome. Maybe he will be invited back
next year and we can have another reunion. ENJOY!
Gary Pantzer
Oneida, NY
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