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Theresa Wiegert
To Don:
No, analyzing takes away the magic. You've got the storytelling talent,
and just KNOW when it's good. And it would be good in only that way, to be
your thing. Like when someone makes music, and just knows how to make it
perfect, because he/she feels it, without having to analyze how it's done,
it's just there. I love it when that happens, it's so nice to have
something like that (and in my sleepy state now, I was wondering what my
talent is? well, there's is always something, and the greatest way of
using it, is to use it to make it even better and to make other people
happy with it.
Ha, now I know one! I make good bread! And that makes people happy also,
at least those who are closeby when it's done...)

To Sigvald:
Yep, I saw when you wrote that the first time, but forgot to answer you
(it's a bit OT also, don't you think, so perhaps I should've answered you
privately): Nope, there are some wiegerts out there after all, even
though it's fairly uncommon in scandinavia, so as far as I know,
we're not related.

To Roy Kooijman:
I guess your mail was meant as some kind of funny approach. I would like
to be kind now, but I'm suffering from sinusitis (ie long cold with lots
of fever that never ends) and it's late, so I'm not in my kind-mode This
is also OT, so people not interested can just skip the part.

I call it mobbing. I don't approve. Perhaps you don't care, but I really
feel I need to say this. There are so many kinds of persons out there, and
so extremely different. Some are perfect social beings, who know what to
say and when. Some find it more difficult, and some perhaps don't notice.
It doesn't matter who is who or what, I cherish all the different kinds,
for what I can learn from them and for the coloring they give to the
world, even if it can be inappropriate from time to time. Or other people
THINK that it is so. No matter what, PLEASE don't write messages like
that, do you really want to hurt another human being? I don't want to hurt
you by writing this, it's just that these things are SERIOUS! and, quite
frankly, horrible. So please be nice! and if you meant it all as a
goodhumoured subtle joke (too subtle for me I'm afraid), just disregard my
message... (or yell at me privately :)

now, be kind, all of you....

/T
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('> ---------------------------------------------------------
/ ) Theresa Wiegert theresaw at oso.chalmers.se
/ / Onsala Space Observatory +46(0)31-7725522
//" SE-439 92 Onsala, Sweden home: 031-811364, 070-4831211
/ http://www.oso.chalmers.se/~theresaw
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Magnus Bark (Farbror Skojskoj, En Av De Tjocka Farbröderna)
Jag ?r r?tt s?ker p? att jag fick paketen fr?n Bor?s och betalade
fakturorna till n?got av postens dotterbolag.

/ Magnus Bark (Farbror Skojskoj, en av de tjocka farbr?derna)

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>2003-02-21 23:55:
>Subject: some stuff (mostly OT)
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>To Don:
>No, analyzing takes away the magic. You've got the storytelling talent,
>and just KNOW when it's good. And it would be good in only that way, to be
>your thing. Like when someone makes music, and just knows how to make it
>perfect, because he/she feels it, without having to analyze how it's done,
>it's just there. I love it when that happens, it's so nice to have
>something like that (and in my sleepy state now, I was wondering what my
>talent is? well, there's is always something, and the greatest way of
>using it, is to use it to make it even better and to make other people
>happy with it.
>Ha, now I know one! I make good bread! And that makes people happy also,
>at least those who are closeby when it's done...)
>
>To Sigvald:
>Yep, I saw when you wrote that the first time, but forgot to answer you
>(it's a bit OT also, don't you think, so perhaps I should've answered you
>privately): Nope, there are some wiegerts out there after all, even
>though it's fairly uncommon in scandinavia, so as far as I know,
>we're not related.
>
>To Roy Kooijman:
>I guess your mail was meant as some kind of funny approach. I would like
>to be kind now, but I'm suffering from sinusitis (ie long cold with lots
>of fever that never ends) and it's late, so I'm not in my kind-mode This
>is also OT, so people not interested can just skip the part.
>
>I call it mobbing. I don't approve. Perhaps you don't care, but I really
>feel I need to say this. There are so many kinds of persons out there, and
>so extremely different. Some are perfect social beings, who know what to
>say and when. Some find it more difficult, and some perhaps don't notice.
>It doesn't matter who is who or what, I cherish all the different kinds,
>for what I can learn from them and for the coloring they give to the
>world, even if it can be inappropriate from time to time. Or other people
>THINK that it is so. No matter what, PLEASE don't write messages like
>that, do you really want to hurt another human being? I don't want to hurt
>you by writing this, it's just that these things are SERIOUS! and, quite
>frankly, horrible. So please be nice! and if you meant it all as a
>goodhumoured subtle joke (too subtle for me I'm afraid), just disregard my
>message... (or yell at me privately :)
>
>now, be kind, all of you....
>
>/T
> _
> ('> ---------------------------------------------------------
> / ) Theresa Wiegert theresaw at oso.chalmers.se
> / / Onsala Space Observatory +46(0)31-7725522
> //" SE-439 92 Onsala, Sweden home: 031-811364, 070-4831211
> / http://www.oso.chalmers.se/~theresaw
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
>
> / Brevb?raren
>
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Hi all!

Very recently I posted 3 messages here on DCML.
This caused some unexpected reactions (as I see
it). Since I am being accused for being some
kind of an "off topic terrorist", I feel the
necessity to answer for my recent actions. So
let's see if some or all of my 3 recent postings
really is off topic or not:

Mail 1: "Me and AC on Norwegian TV"
IMO an on-topic posting because it is indeed a
follow-up to AC's report about his visit to
Norway. This is a part of that story. Noone
argued that ACs report was off-topic (and IMO it
was not) so how can a follow-up be off topic? It
may be of low interest, but that's *not* the same
as OT!

Mail 2: "A Norwegian tribute to Donald?"
This posting mentiones both Donald Duck and the
number plate on his car ? off topic? I don't
think so!

Mail 3: "A friendly question to Theresa
Wiegert"
I think that Theresa's recent comments speaks
for itself ? no more comments necessary.

So all in all I don't feel like an "off topic
terrorist" even though I do understand that
my recent postings are not among my most
interesting ones.

Sigvald :-)
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Theresa Wiegert wrote:

> To Sigvald:

> Yep, I saw when you wrote that the first time,
> but forgot to answer you (it's a bit OT also,
> don't you think?)

Yes I can see that, but IMO not 100% OT as the
the topic was originally a part of ACs report
from Stavanger. Any way, that's not the first
time a debate has moved from absolutely on-topic
to less topic.

> so perhaps I should've answered you
> privately):

Yes, it's of course your choice how to respond
to a question like that. But you didn't do
anything wrong by answering here. There are
many Norwegians following DCML. They most
probably know the actual film "Tante Pose"
very well as it is typical Christmas Eve
tradition in Norway, and would thus probably
find your answer as interesting as I did.

> Nope, there are some Wiegerts out there after
> all, even though it's fairly uncommon in
> scandinavia, so as far as I know, we're not
> related.

OK then. But as I and my father has plans to
visit Gothenburg later this spring I can bring
the video-tape with me if you and Ben wish to
see the film to see how Knut Wiegert look like.
It's a great film so you won't be disapointed!

> I'm suffering from sinusitis (ie long cold
> with lots of fever that never ends).

I am sorry about this, but I hope that you will
recover soon! By the way, have you tried to cure
this illness by drinking J?germeister or perhaps
nutmeg tea?

Sigvald :-)
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Hi all!

I am very sorry for the unwanted turbulense caused
by some of my recent postings to this group. To
prove my friendly and serious intentions I have
added six new surprises to the popular "The
D.U.C.K.man" anniversary celebration page
- enjoy!

Sigvald :-)
Don Rosa
From: "Olivier" <mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr>
re: "Return to Xanadu" cover:
>>>>Don Rosa:
The D.U.C.K. dedication will tell how it was drawn. Unfortunately, I can't
find it!

Stop looking! I did not start putting dedications in covers until about 1992
or so.
Olivier
Hi!

>>>From: "Don Rosa" <donrosa at iglou.com>
>>> Stop looking! I did not start putting dedications in covers until about 1992
>>> or so.

Thanks! I was beginning to doubt there was any.
1992? I didn't remember that.

Have a nice week-end!

Olivier
Gary Leach
The prospective Disney trade paperback series from Gemstone currently
shapes up like this:

128 pages plus covers.

Full color throughout.

Contents will be varied, selected from the vast Egmont archives of
pocket book tales. Donald, Mickey, and Uncle Scrooge will be regularly
featured.

First bimonthly issue is slated to ship this July, though this is not a
firm schedule.

Not much else to say about it at this point. This is an important
project for us, but one of the most important aspects is that we
produce books that readers and prospective readers can just pick up and
read...and, we hope, enjoy.

Gary
Mateusz Lis
Please look at this:
http://www.serwis-komiksowy.pl/strefa_zagraniczna/img_okladki/k_kaczor
_donald_13-2001.jpg
this image is quite small, but I think you can answer this question:
Is this a cover to Don Rosa "Three caballeros ride again"? If it is,
where is D.U.C.K. dedication? And what is this green something behind
the car?

Best wishes,
lis (fan of Wisla Cracow & Adam Malysz)
Stefan Persson
mateusz lis wrote:

>Please look at this:
>http://www.serwis-komiksowy.pl/strefa_zagraniczna/img_okladki/k_kaczor
>_donald_13-2001.jpg
>this image is quite small, but I think you can answer this question:
>Is this a cover to Don Rosa "Three caballeros ride again"?
>
Yes. For more information, c.f.
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/XFC+AA2000-36.

Stefan
Cord Wiljes
The trade paperback (TPB) is an attractive format: The customer gets a
lot of pages for his money and the publisher has a better return on
investment. The trend away from comic books (20-30 pages) towards trade
paperbacks (80+ pages) seems to be quite universal. It had started here
in Germany approximately two years earlier than in the U.S.
Traditionally European comics mostly meant comic albums (a format like
the Barks Library). In Germany we had a huge growth in the number of
newsstand issues 8 years ago. But for the last 4 years publishers are
gradually switching back to the higher priced TPB format.

I have a question to all regarding the selection of stories in such
TPBs: Would you prefer TPBs which concentrate on a single creator, each
reprinting only his stories, possibly in chronological order? Or would
you prefer a mixture of stories by different creators in each issue?

Cord
Don Rosa
From: mateusz lis (lis- at wp.pl)
Subject: Three Caballeros
>>>>Is this a cover to Don Rosa "Three caballeros ride again"? If it is,
where is D.U.C.K. dedication? And what is this green something behind
the car?

Yeah... the "green something" behind the car is the work of a colorist who
decided the car isn't kicking up a cloud of dust but that Donald just drove
through a great big fluffy bush.
That's nuthin'! I still remember the time they first used my "Treasure Under
Glass" -- in the opening splash-panel the Ducks are on a schooner and in the
distance on the horizon you see a low island and a huge fluffy cloud filling
the sky, probably a cumulus formation. The colorist decided this was a
forest on the small island with 35,000 foot tall trees.
15 years ago I still had lots of hair left on my head.

By the way, just so you know what's going on in a similar situation...
recently this "Three Caballeros Ride Again!" story of mine appeared in ZIO
PAPERONE as did my "Gyro's First Invention" and "Crown of the Crusader
Kings"... meanwhile PICSOU and KOMIX both used the Gyro story as well. In
all cases the stories appeared in one part, and in all cases the wrong art
(the serialized versions) was used. I can't figure out why this irritating
and embarrassing error keeps happening to my work. Egmont is saying that
they always supply both versions of my stories to publishers, but I can't
understand why the publisher would then pick the wrong art to use. I'm
trying to ascertain where the fault lies so I can help prevent it in the
future, but no one will acknowledge my inquiries, so I guess this same
aggravation will continue until I'm as bald as a cue ball.

Speaking of problems -- I'm typing this at home. I'm NOT in Boston as Gary
was announcing. Icy, snowy, rainy weather has gripped the eastern half of
the USA for several weeks now, and it hit again yesterday while I was trying
to fly out of Louisville -- flights were cancelled and delayed. The best I
could have done was maybe try again Sunday, get up at 3 AM to get to the
airport to catch a flight and connection to get me to the show at about
noon, which would have been sorta silly since the show would be over a few
hours later. But now there's another inch of snow and ice covering my rural
home here, and I doubt that I'll even be able to get out to my mailbox
by morning. (As it was, Saturday was the first day I left my place in *two
weeks* due to the ice/snow storm in America that was so severe that I
imagine you saw it reported on CNN.) Anyway, I'm not in Boston.
I hope I don't have similar trouble getting to Italia next weekend, but I'm
to be there for over a week, so even if my first flights are delayed there
will be a reason to keep trying the next day.
Lgiver
When I pointed out that the covers on Sigvald's website for
Return to Xanadu, part 2, were reversed on US 262 compared
to the Anders And version. Don Rosa replied that this
may have been flipped by Gladstone for US 262 so that
Scrooge would face to the right, instead of left. Now Sigvald
has added more covers, and there is another reversed pair,
"Treasure Under Glass". On US 263, Scrooge is facing to
the right. The corresponding Anders And version has Scrooge
facing to the left. So this second example supports Don's
reason why he thinks Gladstone flipped these covers.
Stefan Persson
lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net wrote:

> Now Sigvald has added more covers, and there is another reversed pair,
> "Treasure Under Glass". On US 263, Scrooge is facing to
> the right. The corresponding Anders And version has Scrooge
> facing to the left. So this second example supports Don's
> reason why he thinks Gladstone flipped these covers.

Are you sure that it isn't the Danish version that's mirrored? Egmont
*did* do that with a huge amount of their covers at that time...

Stefan
Mateusz Lis
Don Rosa:
> Yeah... the "green something" behind the car is the work of a colorist who
> decided the car isn't kicking up a cloud of dust but that Donald just drove
> through a great big fluffy bush.

Yes, and it looks quite stupid.

> By the way, just so you know what's going on in a similar situation...
> recently this "Three Caballeros Ride Again!" story of mine appeared in ZIO
> PAPERONE as did my "Gyro's First Invention" and "Crown of the Crusader
> Kings"... meanwhile PICSOU and KOMIX both used the Gyro story as well. In
> all cases the stories appeared in one part, and in all cases the wrong art
> (the serialized versions) was used.

You mean 2-part versions? That's nothing! Here in Poland Egmont published
three albums with your work. The first was "The Life and Time of Scrooge
McDuck" and the second and third contain these stories: "Of Ducks and Dimes
and Destinies", "Last sled to Dawson", "Hearts of the Yukon", "The Vigilante
of Pizen Bluff", "The Cowboy Captain of the Cutty Sark", "The Dutchman's
Secret", "The Treasury of Croesus", "Escape From Forbidden Valley", "Quest for
Kalevala", "The Last Lord of El Dorado", " Attack of the Hideous Space
Monsters". ALL these stories, except "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies" and
"Last sled to Dawson" were published in 2-parts versions!!! I have good
memory. They (I mean people from egmont) don't have to remnd me what happened
earlier in the story! But I'm happy that these stories were published here!
They haven't published "The dream of a lifetime", "Gyro's first invention",
"Three Caballeros ride again!" (!!!) and more, more stories yet. If you are
interested, here is an index of your stories publihed in my country:
http://disneymania.w.interia.pl/don_rosa_index.htm. It's quite small, isn't
it?

Best wishes,
lis
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