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Klartekst
S?ren wrote:

<Fact is however, that they never ever had any sex in their entire vitual
life (...) The ducks and the mice are stuck in their stiff universe. There
is no
"progress" as such. Daisy will never be able to prefer Donald before
Gladstone, because they are "trapped" like that. HD & L will never grow
up (or older), because they are not meant to.>

This is exactly how I feel. However, here is an amusing detail:

In a story published in Norway a few years ago, Donald applies for a job as
a maid in a big mansion. The Norwegian word for this particular type of job
is "koldjomfru" which means "cold virgin" if you translate it directly.
Donald says: "Well, I'm neither cold nor a virgin, but...".

The story may have been drawn by Branca, but I'm not sure about that. Does
any Norwegian list memebers know the story code? If so, it would be fun to
find out if this joke was also used in any other languages. Personally, I
think it was just the translater having a bit of fun. Anyway, the word
"jomfru" kan also mean "maiden", but that is a bit old fashioned.

Nils from Norway
Lars Jensen
Sigvald Grøsfjeld jr. wrote:

> Lately Don Rosa's mailprogram went "berserk" and sendt the same
> message 4 or 5 times. Things like this happends, we all know that -
> don't we? So this incident didn't cause any problems for Don
> afterwards.
>
> Anyway, when the exact same thing happened to me last december,
> people like Rune Kristian Viken, Georges Helm, Steven Rowe and Stefan
> Persson accused me for doing it by purpose. Some of them even called
> me a spem-terrorist and Steven Rowe was talking about kill-filters.
>
> I hope the last incident has proved beyond reasonable doubt that I was
> *innocent* in posting the same mail 4 times by purpose, and that the
> "DCML-anti-spam-guerilla" was wrong in their to-quick conclusions
> after that incident.
>
> So now we can all put that incident behind us and look forward.

Just a guess, but maybe their reaction had something to do with you at
the time constantly making off-topic postings about "Greek
spam-'terrorists'", even when you had been asked not to.

Glad to see you don't carry a grudge, though.

Lars
Gunnarsson, Joakim SE - HMJ
Cord wrote:
>Obviously there is no sex shown in the comics.

Ah, don't forget what Mickey and Minnie are doing in "Air Pirate
Funnies" :-)

/Joakim.
SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 2/19/2003 3:41:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,
timoro at hotmail.com writes:

> Could someone please give more information about this very odd rule? When it
>
> was stated and how long it lasted? And WHY postal officers dictated the
> insides of comic magazines (any requirements for other types of mags?)??
> And
> how they were able even to do it?
> How this effected to other comic books? I know Barks had to made changes to
>
> some of his stories.
>

the reason that post office could dictate the insides is due to the second
class postage - this gave magazines basic subsidy in the usa ---- (someone
tried to explain to me once that in the pre1960s this included cheaper
sending to newstands too via postal railroad cars- but he didnt quite
convince me). All magazines have to meet the post office requirement to be
considered a magazine instead of a pamplet or book.
A friend gave me a real nice court decision on puzzle magazines from the
late 1950s...

even today this is one of the reason (other being that some USA states charge
sales tax on books but not magazines) that the Archie digests have titles
like "archie comics digest magazine" - letting you know it is a magazine.

steven rowe
Gary Leach
Timo:

> And WHY postal officers dictated the insides of comic magazines (any
> requirements for other types of mags?)?? And how they were able even
> to do it?
> How this effected to other comic books? I know Barks had to made
> changes to some of his stories.

The post office issues and regulates second class mailing permits,
which enables magazine publishers to get the cheapest available postage
rates for mailing out subscription copies. Over the decades, the post
office has come up with (and suspended) various rules governing the
ability to get and use such permits. I can't say why this authority was
allowed to extend to dictating the precise nature of the contents of
certain magazines, but that allowance has been long-standing, and
includes the requirement by publishers to print the periodic - and to
readers, often mystifying - "Statement of Ownership" in each magazine
they send out by second class mail.

(To be honest, the post office changes its regulations so often that
"Statements of Ownership" may no longer be required, but they were
during the Gladstone days.)

Gary
SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 2/19/2003 8:10:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,
bangfish at cableone.net writes:

> (To be honest, the post office changes its regulations so often that
> "Statements of Ownership" may no longer be required, but they were
> during the Gladstone days.)
>

they are still required

steven rowe
Lars Jensen
AC Sivebæk wrote:

> >> We went on a trip in Sandnes, which was
> >> maybe around 5 km or so.
>
> LARS:
> >
> >Just out of curiosity: Why Sandnes?
>
> Well, because there was arranged a trip in this city that day.
> Strange question :-)

And now I've just gotten a private email from a DCML member extolling
the virtues of Sandnes.

I asked "Why Sandnes?" because I was mildly curious why you elected to
go to that specific town. I lived in Sandnes for a few years, so for a
brief moment I hoped you and Sigvald had been on some sort of pilgrimage
to my childhood home. Guess not. :-)

And to the DCML'er who emailed me: I know the nature around Sandnes is
great. I've been climbing those hills and mountains more times than I
can count.

Lars
Lars Jensen
Don Rosa wrote:

> >>>>The people who created Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck
> frequently teamed them up. And their successors continue to do so.
>
> *Some* of their successors do so.

:-)

I was thinking of the people at Disney Animation. But point taken.

Lars
Donald D. Markstein
> Could someone please give more information about this very odd rule? When
it
> was stated and how long it lasted? And WHY postal officers dictated the
> insides of comic magazines (any requirements for other types of mags?)??
And
> how they were able even to do it?
> How this effected to other comic books? I know Barks had to made changes
to
> some of his stories.

Oh, for heaven's sake, who knows why bureaucrats do ANYTHING? It was a
chance to exercise petty power and make people spin their wheels. Isn't that
enough to motivate a bureaucrat?

The STATED reason, I believe, had to do with qualifying for a very
inexpensive class of mail. If an item didn't have varied editorial content,
they wouldn't allow it to be called a "magazine", and therefore it would be
transferred to a different class, and it would cost more to send out
subscription copies. Practically all U.S. comics of the time had some kind
of minor feature that didn't involve the title character. It's probably why
the Gyro Gearloose stories were included in the first place.

Another effect of postal regulations was the text page nearly all comic
books had. Some used the page for a story too short to hold any real
interest, some used it for odd facts, and some used it for comics' first
letter columns. The latter eventually led to fans finding one another and
forming organized groups, which later had a profound effect on the evolution
of the comics industry in America.

So if you happen to LIKE the way the fan community influenced the industry,
then stupid, useless postal regulations actually had a good effect on
comics. And if not -- well, too bad.

Quack, Don

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Timo Ronkainen
>chance to exercise petty power and make people spin their wheels. Isn't
>that
>enough to motivate a bureaucrat?

Well said :-D that must be the case.

>then stupid, useless postal regulations actually had a good effect on
>comics.

Indeed. Lucky thing.
But still, the logic of dictating contents of magazines is still blurred.
And can stay that way before things go too far off topic. :-)

Timo

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SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 2/19/2003 11:43:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
timoro at hotmail.com writes:

> But still, the logic of dictating contents of magazines is still blurred.
> And can stay that way before things go too far off topic. :-)
>

the simple way of looking at it as - the post office wants to make sure that
they and the usa tax payers were subsidizing magazines and not books or
pamplets. (because one was authorized by law, the others werent)
so how do you define a magazine?
which is what they did - define what a magazine was --

steven rowe
Timo Ronkainen
> so how do you define a magazine?
> which is what they did - define what a magazine was

This is what I was afraid of, getting far away too much off topic: define a
magazine ;-)
In a way, one might say comic book is not a magazine, we remember MAD
changing into magazine-format so they could avoid being disapproved by
Comics Code.... You see :-) OK, this is too OT...
Back to the subject, Disney comics.
I got today Italian Tesori cinque: Storie Rare -Barks book. As I cannot read
Italian, and therefore don't understand Luca Boschi's preface, I'd like to
know where black line print proofs were acquired for this really nice book.

Timo

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Cord Wiljes
Don Rosa:
>>>...And the sun should be yellow. I've always wondered, even
when I was a kid, why people think the sun is yellow. I think it's only
because when we're lil' kids with crayons we don't want to leave the sun
white in our drawings.

Theresa Wiegert:
>> Actually, the sun *is* yellow! It's classified as a G-star
(spectraltype), depending on its temperature and chemical
composition. A warmer star would be blue, and a colder red.

So if we make a spectral analysis of the sun it emits a little more
electromagnetic radiation of wavelengths corresponding to yellow
than of the other wavelengths. Is this visible with human eyes?
Probably only from far away, let's say from Alpha Centauri.

In any case the sun is not as yellow as crayons - or comic book yellow.
Could it be that it looks more yellow near sunset, before it gets orange,
then red and ultimately night falls? This would probably be due to diffraction
of the sun's light in earth's atmosphere.

Another example: Water in small amounts (let's say in a bucket) is not
nearly as blue as it is depicted in comic books. Water looks blue only if
you have lots of it (like in an ocean).

What I have always wondered is why Chinese (or Asian people
in general) are depicted as yellow. In reality their skin color
is not a little bit yellow. It is exactly like the skin color
of Europeans.

Cord
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Lars Jensen wrote:

> Just a guess, but maybe their reaction had
> something to do with you at the time constantly
> making off-topic postings about "Greek
> "spam-terrorists" even when you had been asked
> not to.

No, it was American "Spam-terrorists" by that
time.

Anyway, S?ren has done a great job in tracking
them down and reporting them in or whatever
way he stopped them! Nowadays I very seldom
receieve any spam!

Sigvald :-)
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Cord Wiljes wrote:

> What I have always wondered is why Chinese
> (or Asian people in general) are depicted as
> yellow. In reality their skin color is not a
> little bit yellow. It is exactly like the
> skin color of Europeans.

Some of them may have a skin color close to ours,
but most people in the south-east asia (Vietnam,
Indonesia, etc. has often a clerly darker skin
color than Europeans.

Sigvald :-)
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