> LOL! I wholeheartedly agree. The multi-part origin intro was a
> fun romp, but they should have sent home to his own time at the
> end and let it be.
I think sow to.
> Not to mention their version of "Land Beneath the Ground." It
> was fun, but Barks did it SOOOO much better. That super-cute
> little boy Terry (or Fermy?) was just too much "cute-ification"
> for me.
I like dis episode. To bad I didn't know Barks story sow I coud mach team.
But obaut maching : I love Duck Tales version of "Back to the Klondaik".
Ofcours Carl Bark version is much better but in Duck Tales there is shown
much more love betwen Scrooge and Goldie. Maby bicous Scrooge sems to fell
in love with Goldie sence he saw her for the first time. Why in Barks
version he simes to hate here in the flash back.
Your's
Maciek
Author
Topic: 200311
(421 messages)
KUR
DuckTales opinions
Message 121 -
2003-11-10 at 13:21:16
Olaf Solstrand
Age of Rumpus McFowl
Message 122 -
2003-11-10 at 13:27:10
Good to see this discussion on DCML, Larry. I've been discussing this
everywhere for several years - as it's quite a long time since this story came
in Norway.
I also think we've already briefly discussed this at the DCML? Well, I'll
always love this discussion.
My personal opinion is that Rumpus is younger than Scrooge - but I think it
will be hard to fit him into the family tree shown in Life of Scrooge.
Once when discussing this in a Norwegian discussion board, someone suggested
that Fergus and Downy'd had a short divorce, where Rumpus were born. This
divorce was suggested to find place short time after Matilda were born - but
then, Fergus and Downy got back together again. That theory would make Rumpus a
little older than Hortense.
I think that's a complex solution. Seems more likely to me that Rumpus' mother
just made up this marriage to don't have to tell Rumpus he was an illegimate
child. :-) But then again... That would mean Fergus cheated on Downy. I don't
like that either.
And if Rumpus is born 20-30 years after Scrooge... Well, I don't see that
fitting into the Life of Scrooge either. After all... Rumpus' mother talks in a
very negative way about Scrooge, an annoying little rascal or something. I
don't think she would have talked of him like that if he was digging for gold
on the other side of the sea.
So I must say, I think it's hard to fit this into the Life of Scrooge. My guess
is that Rumpus was already developing in Van Horn's hear before Life of Scrooge
was written.
I haven't got last US yet, but I can't wait to finally see this story in
English.
As for how many Rumpus stories...
Unless I'm missing something, there's three more stories not yet published in
the States. These are "Ain't it the truth" (D 2000-045), "A Dime for your
thoughts" (D 2000-145) and "Full circle" (D 2001-056). What these stories have
in common is that there's nothing special about Rumpus - he's just the average
side character. These are not stories about Scrooge's and Rumpus' relationship -
they're stories about just anything. "Ain't it the truth" is the story of when
Donald, Daisy, Gladstone, Donald's nephews and Rumpus go to a picnic - and
after a near accident, they all have different views on what really
happens. "Full circle" can be compared to Don Rosa's "The coin", where a golden
egg in an egg box passes from person to person in Duckburg - Rumpus being one
of them. "Full circle" is an encounter between Rumpus and Magica De Spell,
where Scrooge needs to have the Number One Dime cleaned and has Rumpus go to
the jeweler - because he thinks nobody will expect Rumpus carrying something
valuable.
Olaf
everywhere for several years - as it's quite a long time since this story came
in Norway.
I also think we've already briefly discussed this at the DCML? Well, I'll
always love this discussion.
My personal opinion is that Rumpus is younger than Scrooge - but I think it
will be hard to fit him into the family tree shown in Life of Scrooge.
Once when discussing this in a Norwegian discussion board, someone suggested
that Fergus and Downy'd had a short divorce, where Rumpus were born. This
divorce was suggested to find place short time after Matilda were born - but
then, Fergus and Downy got back together again. That theory would make Rumpus a
little older than Hortense.
I think that's a complex solution. Seems more likely to me that Rumpus' mother
just made up this marriage to don't have to tell Rumpus he was an illegimate
child. :-) But then again... That would mean Fergus cheated on Downy. I don't
like that either.
And if Rumpus is born 20-30 years after Scrooge... Well, I don't see that
fitting into the Life of Scrooge either. After all... Rumpus' mother talks in a
very negative way about Scrooge, an annoying little rascal or something. I
don't think she would have talked of him like that if he was digging for gold
on the other side of the sea.
So I must say, I think it's hard to fit this into the Life of Scrooge. My guess
is that Rumpus was already developing in Van Horn's hear before Life of Scrooge
was written.
I haven't got last US yet, but I can't wait to finally see this story in
English.
As for how many Rumpus stories...
Unless I'm missing something, there's three more stories not yet published in
the States. These are "Ain't it the truth" (D 2000-045), "A Dime for your
thoughts" (D 2000-145) and "Full circle" (D 2001-056). What these stories have
in common is that there's nothing special about Rumpus - he's just the average
side character. These are not stories about Scrooge's and Rumpus' relationship -
they're stories about just anything. "Ain't it the truth" is the story of when
Donald, Daisy, Gladstone, Donald's nephews and Rumpus go to a picnic - and
after a near accident, they all have different views on what really
happens. "Full circle" can be compared to Don Rosa's "The coin", where a golden
egg in an egg box passes from person to person in Duckburg - Rumpus being one
of them. "Full circle" is an encounter between Rumpus and Magica De Spell,
where Scrooge needs to have the Number One Dime cleaned and has Rumpus go to
the jeweler - because he thinks nobody will expect Rumpus carrying something
valuable.
Olaf
Matthew Williams
Best DuckTales Episodes!
Message 123 -
2003-11-10 at 14:56:23
Maciek wrote:
>> "Send in the Clones" is a good one (it was the first one I watched, and
it
>> hooked me).
>I love dis episode. Action is moving very fast and gag and plot are super.
>Is dis firt episode with Magica de Spell?
I don't know if this is the first one they made with Magica DeSpell, but I'm
pretty positive that it is the first one they showed on American TV with
Magica.
>> I honestly don't care much for "Till Nephews Do Us Part,"
> >though. I guess I just don't buy Scrooge in it. I love The Parent Trap
> >homage, though! The ASAP running gag is good too!
>I like dis episode. The best part is Scrooge weding with nerlly evry
>charecter from the first sesson. I even spot Magica De Spell and her
>raiven Poe.
Even though the episode isn't one of my favorites I do love how every single
DuckTales character is at Scrooge's wedding--even really obscure characters
who are only in one episode! I think that shows a lot of love and care on
someone's part. I love that Donald is Scrooge's best man, a bad decision on
Scrooge's part perhaps, but definitely the natural decision!
Oh and Katie! I LIKE Scrooge in love, but I guess I like miserable,
unrequited love best (LOL)! I'm really bothered by how easily Millionaira
pulls the wool over Scrooge's eyes. The puns they exchange are great,
though. Don't they talk about moving into a tax shelter?
Maciek: I share your mixed feelings about "Dime Enough for Luck"! I love
seeing Gladstone, Scrooge, and Magica interacting together, but I am
troubled by the power that's attributed to the dime in that episode.
Matt (who perks up anytime there's a possibility of talking about Launchpad
McQuack)
>> "Send in the Clones" is a good one (it was the first one I watched, and
it
>> hooked me).
>I love dis episode. Action is moving very fast and gag and plot are super.
>Is dis firt episode with Magica de Spell?
I don't know if this is the first one they made with Magica DeSpell, but I'm
pretty positive that it is the first one they showed on American TV with
Magica.
>> I honestly don't care much for "Till Nephews Do Us Part,"
> >though. I guess I just don't buy Scrooge in it. I love The Parent Trap
> >homage, though! The ASAP running gag is good too!
>I like dis episode. The best part is Scrooge weding with nerlly evry
>charecter from the first sesson. I even spot Magica De Spell and her
>raiven Poe.
Even though the episode isn't one of my favorites I do love how every single
DuckTales character is at Scrooge's wedding--even really obscure characters
who are only in one episode! I think that shows a lot of love and care on
someone's part. I love that Donald is Scrooge's best man, a bad decision on
Scrooge's part perhaps, but definitely the natural decision!
Oh and Katie! I LIKE Scrooge in love, but I guess I like miserable,
unrequited love best (LOL)! I'm really bothered by how easily Millionaira
pulls the wool over Scrooge's eyes. The puns they exchange are great,
though. Don't they talk about moving into a tax shelter?
Maciek: I share your mixed feelings about "Dime Enough for Luck"! I love
seeing Gladstone, Scrooge, and Magica interacting together, but I am
troubled by the power that's attributed to the dime in that episode.
Matt (who perks up anytime there's a possibility of talking about Launchpad
McQuack)
Timo Ronkainen
Question about original Donad Duck texts
Message 124 -
2003-11-10 at 15:09:21
Hi all!
I need to know what were in original panels on these duck stories:
W DDCA 3 -04 (Donald Duck Comic Album) fourth page panel eight, what is the
name of the place mentioned here (Finnish translation says "Cha Cha Hall").
DG 33-08 (Dell Giant 3) Have Pencil, Will Travel (1960). Scrooge and Daisy
travels to the some african country which is translated here as
"Bongo-land". What it is in original? (page 2, first panel).
I ask this because Jukka Lindfors is writing a preface for facsimile book of
collected Aku Ankka magazine's 1962 volume. Thanks in advance!
Best Wishes
Timo
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I need to know what were in original panels on these duck stories:
W DDCA 3 -04 (Donald Duck Comic Album) fourth page panel eight, what is the
name of the place mentioned here (Finnish translation says "Cha Cha Hall").
DG 33-08 (Dell Giant 3) Have Pencil, Will Travel (1960). Scrooge and Daisy
travels to the some african country which is translated here as
"Bongo-land". What it is in original? (page 2, first panel).
I ask this because Jukka Lindfors is writing a preface for facsimile book of
collected Aku Ankka magazine's 1962 volume. Thanks in advance!
Best Wishes
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kyl? 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
?? Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
?? Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/
?? Kvaak-sarjakuvaportaali:
http://www.kvaak.fi
.................................
"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on a cowslip - far from me!"
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Daniel Van Eijmeren
Misunderstandings around Danish article (OT)
Message 125 -
2003-11-10 at 15:17:35
LARS JENSEN to me, 09-11-2003:
>> how many times do people need to tell you that it's sick
> "Sick"?
>
> You just went way over the line here, Dani?l -- especially combined
> with the other content of your posting. I hope you can find it in
> yourself to apologize to Sigvald. He doesn't deserve this kind of
> abuse.
Do I deserve HIS kind of abuse? I've been asking, advicing, grumbling
and begging him to STOP with sending those ridiculous complaints and
offences. This has been going on for MONTHS. And then, when I loose my
patience and let it show, *I* should apologize? Isn't that ironic?
Concerning the context in which my email was sent, after the patience
and the many, MANY chances given to Sigvald, I FULLY stand behind my
email. Don't let there be any misunderstanding about it!
And if it was so much over the line, then I look forward to that monthly
"the most way over the line" award that apparently is waiting for me now.
It will mean at least SOME result after all those months of asking,
advicing, grumbling and begging.
--- Dani?l
>> how many times do people need to tell you that it's sick
> "Sick"?
>
> You just went way over the line here, Dani?l -- especially combined
> with the other content of your posting. I hope you can find it in
> yourself to apologize to Sigvald. He doesn't deserve this kind of
> abuse.
Do I deserve HIS kind of abuse? I've been asking, advicing, grumbling
and begging him to STOP with sending those ridiculous complaints and
offences. This has been going on for MONTHS. And then, when I loose my
patience and let it show, *I* should apologize? Isn't that ironic?
Concerning the context in which my email was sent, after the patience
and the many, MANY chances given to Sigvald, I FULLY stand behind my
email. Don't let there be any misunderstanding about it!
And if it was so much over the line, then I look forward to that monthly
"the most way over the line" award that apparently is waiting for me now.
It will mean at least SOME result after all those months of asking,
advicing, grumbling and begging.
--- Dani?l
H.W.Fluks
Lack of repect to our friends, obviously, off course.
Message 126 -
2003-11-10 at 15:25:18
Dani?l wrote:
> And how many times do people need to tell you that it's sick [..]
Lars replied:
> "Sick"?
>
> You just went way over the line here, Dani?l -- especially combined with
> the other content of your posting. I hope you can find it in yourself to
> apologize to Sigvald. He doesn't deserve this kind of abuse.
And Geir:
> I nominate Dani?l's lates mail "the most way over the line"
> mail this month. It's terrible to read such an attack here on DCML:(
I don't think Dani?l needs to apologise to Sigvald. I think Dani?l could have gone even further.
We tried every means we have to handle Sigvald's attitude on DCML here, and none of them worked. Dani?l tried it in a new way, but it I'm sure it won't work either.
Sigvald himself wrote:
> The situation has been quite
> calm at DCML for several months now, please help keeping it that way.
The main reason that the "situation has been quite calm" is that Sigvald sent very few e-mails. Apparently (and "obviously") Sigvald is not able to write an e-mail without being offensive. He doesn't know the difference between criticism and insult.
I have no other solution to this Sigvald problem than trying to ignore his mails.
And yes, I know: I sometimes don't succeed...
--Harry.
> And how many times do people need to tell you that it's sick [..]
Lars replied:
> "Sick"?
>
> You just went way over the line here, Dani?l -- especially combined with
> the other content of your posting. I hope you can find it in yourself to
> apologize to Sigvald. He doesn't deserve this kind of abuse.
And Geir:
> I nominate Dani?l's lates mail "the most way over the line"
> mail this month. It's terrible to read such an attack here on DCML:(
I don't think Dani?l needs to apologise to Sigvald. I think Dani?l could have gone even further.
We tried every means we have to handle Sigvald's attitude on DCML here, and none of them worked. Dani?l tried it in a new way, but it I'm sure it won't work either.
Sigvald himself wrote:
> The situation has been quite
> calm at DCML for several months now, please help keeping it that way.
The main reason that the "situation has been quite calm" is that Sigvald sent very few e-mails. Apparently (and "obviously") Sigvald is not able to write an e-mail without being offensive. He doesn't know the difference between criticism and insult.
I have no other solution to this Sigvald problem than trying to ignore his mails.
And yes, I know: I sometimes don't succeed...
--Harry.
Daniel J. Neyer
Age of Rumpus McFowl
Message 127 -
2003-11-10 at 16:36:56
It's funny, Larry, but I had reached the same conclusion as to Rumpus'
age and antecedents that you did. I see the old sponger as a good deal
younger than Scrooge, despite his bushy beard. It was very interesting to
see Van Horn pursue the relationship between the two revealed at the end
of "Secrets." BTW, "Travails", is the fourth Rumpus story printed in the
US--the character debuted in "It's All Relative", then clashed with
Scrooge for the first time in "Say Uncle." Then came "Secrets", in the
last Gladstone issue of UNCLE SCROOGE. And now, according to the editor's
column in US 322, Rumpus will be making his fifth appearance in 323, in a
story called "A Dime For Your Thoughts." I presume that one's already
been published in Europe? I can't get enough of Van Horn, and he's always
at his best when doing Rumpus, so I'll look forward to that one as well.
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age and antecedents that you did. I see the old sponger as a good deal
younger than Scrooge, despite his bushy beard. It was very interesting to
see Van Horn pursue the relationship between the two revealed at the end
of "Secrets." BTW, "Travails", is the fourth Rumpus story printed in the
US--the character debuted in "It's All Relative", then clashed with
Scrooge for the first time in "Say Uncle." Then came "Secrets", in the
last Gladstone issue of UNCLE SCROOGE. And now, according to the editor's
column in US 322, Rumpus will be making his fifth appearance in 323, in a
story called "A Dime For Your Thoughts." I presume that one's already
been published in Europe? I can't get enough of Van Horn, and he's always
at his best when doing Rumpus, so I'll look forward to that one as well.
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Sigvald Awakes a "Sleeping Giant" (Ha! Ha!): Silly American
Message 128 -
2003-11-10 at 17:37:55
Matthew Williams <kingofduckburg at apptechnc.net> wrote:
> Because I am American and not "representative
> for the whole of DCML" are my opinions to
> be dismissed?
Off course not.
> While the Walt Disney Company Comics era did
> seem somewhat focused on changing Disney comics
> into something else, I think that threat is
> long since past. As long as people like Rosa,
> the Blocks, and the Van Horns are still
> creating excellent (ORIGINAL) work in the
> traditional style, I don't think we can assume
> an overlapping panel style is going to become
> the norm.
OK then! Because that was indeed what I have feared and the reason I came up
with this topic in the first place.
If the overlapping style remain mr. Fecchi's special style rather than the
norm, I will have no problems at all enjoying both his and other creators
comics in the DD Pocket books.
> Still, the way you have chosen your comments
> in reference to Mr. Fecchi is rude and just
> plain not very nice.
As stated before my comments was about the style, *not* about the man. It
was not my intention to hurt anyone. I am very sorry if mr. Fecchi or anyone
else felt hurt by my comment.
Also notice that I used the word "bad" in order to get attention at DCML.
The next time I have some critical comment of any kind, I can present it in
a nice way - and see if that gives attention as well.
Sigvald
> Because I am American and not "representative
> for the whole of DCML" are my opinions to
> be dismissed?
Off course not.
> While the Walt Disney Company Comics era did
> seem somewhat focused on changing Disney comics
> into something else, I think that threat is
> long since past. As long as people like Rosa,
> the Blocks, and the Van Horns are still
> creating excellent (ORIGINAL) work in the
> traditional style, I don't think we can assume
> an overlapping panel style is going to become
> the norm.
OK then! Because that was indeed what I have feared and the reason I came up
with this topic in the first place.
If the overlapping style remain mr. Fecchi's special style rather than the
norm, I will have no problems at all enjoying both his and other creators
comics in the DD Pocket books.
> Still, the way you have chosen your comments
> in reference to Mr. Fecchi is rude and just
> plain not very nice.
As stated before my comments was about the style, *not* about the man. It
was not my intention to hurt anyone. I am very sorry if mr. Fecchi or anyone
else felt hurt by my comment.
Also notice that I used the word "bad" in order to get attention at DCML.
The next time I have some critical comment of any kind, I can present it in
a nice way - and see if that gives attention as well.
Sigvald
Don Rosa
That $crooge snowglobe
Message 129 -
2003-11-10 at 18:05:37
Since people were guessing as to whether the theme played on this new
$crooge snowglobe was the Donald Duck theme (as the ad states) or the
"Ducktales" theme (as one would expect), I'm happy to report that it's the
1930's DD theme (even though that's inappropriate in its own way). In fact,
this is one of the most "Barksian" $crooge figurines in my collection of
many hundreds. It's gorgeous. It features $crooge frolicking in a pile of
coins on his desk, and the desk and surrounding floor is beautifully adorned
with many details of coins, bills, money bags, ingots, not to mention
woodwork details and carved "$"s and even an old ticker tape machine below a
clear bell-jar. There's even such extreme detailing as an old style
(naturally) phone sitting off its cradle so no calls will disturb $crooge as
he has his fun. It's straight out of the 1950's and so cluttered with detail
that it looks like something *I* would draw. And I'm happy to see more items
made in the cheaper resin style which looks much nicer than the more
expensive ceramic method or any other method. The only drawback is that it
IS a snowglobe to help sales in the "coll-eech-tibles" market of American
buyers who want Disney snowglobes even if they don't recognize or understand
the character featured. ("Oh, isn't that adorable -- must be a character
coming up in LION KING IV.") And even though I thought "Ducktales" was an
excellent TV show, since I thought of it as a counterfeit $crooge I did
*not* like its influence on the few $crooge items being made, and I'm happy
to see that it's far enough in the past now that its theme tune was not
automatically used on this gorgeous new figurine.
I don't know why I'm waxing eloquent with a merchandise review -- I guess
it's just that I am a $crooge collector, and yet there have been *very few*
really good Barks-style $crooge items ever made for the general market since
the first one in 1956 (a tiny Hagen-Renaker ceramic), and this latest one is
one of the best.
$crooge snowglobe was the Donald Duck theme (as the ad states) or the
"Ducktales" theme (as one would expect), I'm happy to report that it's the
1930's DD theme (even though that's inappropriate in its own way). In fact,
this is one of the most "Barksian" $crooge figurines in my collection of
many hundreds. It's gorgeous. It features $crooge frolicking in a pile of
coins on his desk, and the desk and surrounding floor is beautifully adorned
with many details of coins, bills, money bags, ingots, not to mention
woodwork details and carved "$"s and even an old ticker tape machine below a
clear bell-jar. There's even such extreme detailing as an old style
(naturally) phone sitting off its cradle so no calls will disturb $crooge as
he has his fun. It's straight out of the 1950's and so cluttered with detail
that it looks like something *I* would draw. And I'm happy to see more items
made in the cheaper resin style which looks much nicer than the more
expensive ceramic method or any other method. The only drawback is that it
IS a snowglobe to help sales in the "coll-eech-tibles" market of American
buyers who want Disney snowglobes even if they don't recognize or understand
the character featured. ("Oh, isn't that adorable -- must be a character
coming up in LION KING IV.") And even though I thought "Ducktales" was an
excellent TV show, since I thought of it as a counterfeit $crooge I did
*not* like its influence on the few $crooge items being made, and I'm happy
to see that it's far enough in the past now that its theme tune was not
automatically used on this gorgeous new figurine.
I don't know why I'm waxing eloquent with a merchandise review -- I guess
it's just that I am a $crooge collector, and yet there have been *very few*
really good Barks-style $crooge items ever made for the general market since
the first one in 1956 (a tiny Hagen-Renaker ceramic), and this latest one is
one of the best.
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Lack of repect to our friends, obviously, off course.
Message 130 -
2003-11-10 at 18:06:16
Harry Fluks <H.W.Fluks at telecom.tno.nl> wrote:
> Sigvald himself wrote:
>
>> The situation has been quite calm at DCML for
>> several months now, please help keeping it
>> that way.
>
> The main reason that the "situation has been
> quite calm" is that Sigvald sent very few
> e-mails. Apparently (and "obviously"> Sigvald
> is not able to write an e-mail without being
> offensive.
Please, take a break - Harry! Even you know that this is not correct. Just
think about it - was I offensive in the posting where I started the debate
about northeastern storms in Duckburg? And there are also a lot of other
examples that I have posted non-offensive mails.
> I have no other solution to this Sigvald
> problem than trying to ignore his mails.
This, Harry, is close to what I will call a rude and anti-democratic
behaviour that doesn't belong in DCML.
Sigvald
> Sigvald himself wrote:
>
>> The situation has been quite calm at DCML for
>> several months now, please help keeping it
>> that way.
>
> The main reason that the "situation has been
> quite calm" is that Sigvald sent very few
> e-mails. Apparently (and "obviously"> Sigvald
> is not able to write an e-mail without being
> offensive.
Please, take a break - Harry! Even you know that this is not correct. Just
think about it - was I offensive in the posting where I started the debate
about northeastern storms in Duckburg? And there are also a lot of other
examples that I have posted non-offensive mails.
> I have no other solution to this Sigvald
> problem than trying to ignore his mails.
This, Harry, is close to what I will call a rude and anti-democratic
behaviour that doesn't belong in DCML.
Sigvald
Luca Boschi
The first Flinthearth's non-barksian story
Message 131 -
2003-11-10 at 18:59:03
To Katie, and for who's intertested in this issue: it seems that the very
first Flinthearth's non-barksian story is Italian, and specifically Zio
Paperone e il bisbilione, written by Osvaldo Pavese, art by Giuseppe Perego,
in "Topolino" n. 608 (23-07-1967). Since the art is quite - AHEM, ER... -
not oustanding, the story is not so famous; indeed it's quite important,
because shows the first (and only?) team-up Scrooge-Flintheart-Rockerduck,
and even if Flintheart is in Duckburg (but it's not written that he *lives*
there) it's clearly shown a difference between his personality and
Rockerduck's one.
Moreover, this story also clearly states the *ufficial* Italian translation
of Flinthearth Glomgold into Cuordipietra Famedoro, even if this very name
was used only one time before, in translating original Barks' stories.
Luca
first Flinthearth's non-barksian story is Italian, and specifically Zio
Paperone e il bisbilione, written by Osvaldo Pavese, art by Giuseppe Perego,
in "Topolino" n. 608 (23-07-1967). Since the art is quite - AHEM, ER... -
not oustanding, the story is not so famous; indeed it's quite important,
because shows the first (and only?) team-up Scrooge-Flintheart-Rockerduck,
and even if Flintheart is in Duckburg (but it's not written that he *lives*
there) it's clearly shown a difference between his personality and
Rockerduck's one.
Moreover, this story also clearly states the *ufficial* Italian translation
of Flinthearth Glomgold into Cuordipietra Famedoro, even if this very name
was used only one time before, in translating original Barks' stories.
Luca
Mateusz Lis
Fecchi's good style
Message 132 -
2003-11-10 at 19:11:56
Hi all,
For me, Fecchi's style of designing panels is generally good. Please
forgive me if I'm wrong, but IMHO there aren't many creative artists in
Italy - most of them are just coping style of Cavazzano or Scarpa.
Furthermore, I won't say that Fecchi's stories look like "Spiderman". When
I read his stories, I don't stop to think "Which panel is next???"
BTW, Sigvald, I think you haven't paid much attention when you read this
story - Gorm Transgaard showed a lack of respect for other creator(s),
because there was no Duckburg in 1775!
;-)
Best wishes,
Mateusz Lis
For me, Fecchi's style of designing panels is generally good. Please
forgive me if I'm wrong, but IMHO there aren't many creative artists in
Italy - most of them are just coping style of Cavazzano or Scarpa.
Furthermore, I won't say that Fecchi's stories look like "Spiderman". When
I read his stories, I don't stop to think "Which panel is next???"
BTW, Sigvald, I think you haven't paid much attention when you read this
story - Gorm Transgaard showed a lack of respect for other creator(s),
because there was no Duckburg in 1775!
;-)
Best wishes,
Mateusz Lis
Mateusz Lis
Favourite DuckTales episodes
Message 133 -
2003-11-10 at 19:11:57
Here are some of my favourite DuckTales episodes:
1) Armstrong
This episode is thrilling! It was done so well, that I go through it wery
much every time I watch it. Even if I know how it will end.
2) Hotel Strangeduck
It is based upon Barks' "Secret of the old castle". It is very mysterious
and wonderful to watch in the evenigs. I think it's even better than
original (No, please, don't kill me!!!)
3) The Golden Goose
The only one episode on this list which was done for second season. I like
it because it is animated very well and it holds in suspence to the end.
4) Lost Crown of Genghis Khan
I haven't read the original story yet, but the episode is fantastic. I
can't tell why I like - it's a magic, like in Barks stories.
5) The Curse of Castle McDuck
I think it is based upon one of the Barks' stories, bu I'm not sure. Very
mysterious, quite stupid, but I love it.
6) Send in the clones
It is very dynamic and it plotted very well.
I love almost every DuckTales episode, but these are my favourite.
Best wishes,
Mateusz Lis
1) Armstrong
This episode is thrilling! It was done so well, that I go through it wery
much every time I watch it. Even if I know how it will end.
2) Hotel Strangeduck
It is based upon Barks' "Secret of the old castle". It is very mysterious
and wonderful to watch in the evenigs. I think it's even better than
original (No, please, don't kill me!!!)
3) The Golden Goose
The only one episode on this list which was done for second season. I like
it because it is animated very well and it holds in suspence to the end.
4) Lost Crown of Genghis Khan
I haven't read the original story yet, but the episode is fantastic. I
can't tell why I like - it's a magic, like in Barks stories.
5) The Curse of Castle McDuck
I think it is based upon one of the Barks' stories, bu I'm not sure. Very
mysterious, quite stupid, but I love it.
6) Send in the clones
It is very dynamic and it plotted very well.
I love almost every DuckTales episode, but these are my favourite.
Best wishes,
Mateusz Lis
KUR
Best DuckTales Episodes!
Message 134 -
2003-11-10 at 19:12:08
> Even though the episode isn't one of my favorites I do love how every
single
> DuckTales character is at Scrooge's wedding--even really obscure
characters
> who are only in one episode! I think that shows a lot of love and care on
> someone's part.
You now it's fanny theat Scrooge Invait Glomgold and Magica to the weding.
Affter all they are vilans.
(Goldie and The Beagle Boy's wasent invaitet but they found they wey to get
in ;-) )
> Maciek: I share your mixed feelings about "Dime Enough for Luck"! I love
> seeing Gladstone, Scrooge, and Magica interacting together, but I am
> troubled by the power that's attributed to the dime in that episode.
I thik DuckTales scrip makers was having trubell with decide whay Magica
nide Scrooge Dime :
- In "Send in the Clones" she tell she seys the Dime will make here moust
powerfull witch in the world. And she take over the world And it was shown
she have to melt the dime in to her amulet.
- In "Dime Enougth for Luck" first Magica sey theat wen she melt the Dime
"(...) it will control oll the Dime's in the word, not to mantion all the
Dolars (...)" and she olsow mention theat all Luck and welth in the world
will be here.
- In "Duck to the Future" it is shown theat wen Magica fainly get the dime ,
she didn't melt it in the Dime but simply put it and theat make her
powerfull.
- In "Magica Shadow War" it is shown theat Magica just have to hold the Dime
in here hend to make here Spell's more Powerfull.
By the wey : I like the Episode "Raider's of the last harp" wen Magica aperd
as a Vilant but she wasen't after the the Dime but after the Harp of Helen
of Troy.
And love wen Magica sey's :"I love geting Mail. Nou one ever send bills,
the wuodent dere" :-)
> Matt (who perks up anytime there's a possibility of talking about
Launchpad
> McQuack)
I like to talk obaut hime. His the best Duck Tales charecter wich didn't
aperd bifour the show but was made by Duck Tales (like GizmoDuck or Webby)
I like his family (father, mother and sirter) theat aperd in episode "Top
Duck" and have a cameoin Till Nephews Do Us Part.
Yours
Maciek
single
> DuckTales character is at Scrooge's wedding--even really obscure
characters
> who are only in one episode! I think that shows a lot of love and care on
> someone's part.
You now it's fanny theat Scrooge Invait Glomgold and Magica to the weding.
Affter all they are vilans.
(Goldie and The Beagle Boy's wasent invaitet but they found they wey to get
in ;-) )
> Maciek: I share your mixed feelings about "Dime Enough for Luck"! I love
> seeing Gladstone, Scrooge, and Magica interacting together, but I am
> troubled by the power that's attributed to the dime in that episode.
I thik DuckTales scrip makers was having trubell with decide whay Magica
nide Scrooge Dime :
- In "Send in the Clones" she tell she seys the Dime will make here moust
powerfull witch in the world. And she take over the world And it was shown
she have to melt the dime in to her amulet.
- In "Dime Enougth for Luck" first Magica sey theat wen she melt the Dime
"(...) it will control oll the Dime's in the word, not to mantion all the
Dolars (...)" and she olsow mention theat all Luck and welth in the world
will be here.
- In "Duck to the Future" it is shown theat wen Magica fainly get the dime ,
she didn't melt it in the Dime but simply put it and theat make her
powerfull.
- In "Magica Shadow War" it is shown theat Magica just have to hold the Dime
in here hend to make here Spell's more Powerfull.
By the wey : I like the Episode "Raider's of the last harp" wen Magica aperd
as a Vilant but she wasen't after the the Dime but after the Harp of Helen
of Troy.
And love wen Magica sey's :"I love geting Mail. Nou one ever send bills,
the wuodent dere" :-)
> Matt (who perks up anytime there's a possibility of talking about
Launchpad
> McQuack)
I like to talk obaut hime. His the best Duck Tales charecter wich didn't
aperd bifour the show but was made by Duck Tales (like GizmoDuck or Webby)
I like his family (father, mother and sirter) theat aperd in episode "Top
Duck" and have a cameoin Till Nephews Do Us Part.
Yours
Maciek
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Fecchi's good style
Message 135 -
2003-11-10 at 19:23:30
mateusz lis <lis- at wp.pl> wrote:
> BTW, Sigvald, I think you haven't paid much
> attention when you read this story - Gorm
> Transgaard showed a lack of respect for other
> creator(s), because there was no Duckburg in
> 1775! ;-)
I did notice that Gorm placed this story in 1775. Apparently he prefer to
ignore Barks' and Rosa's version of Duckburgs past in this story - not only
by the dating, but also by (as I read that story) ignoring the very
existence for Fort Duckburg by 1775 - but that's his free choice so I didn't
see any reason to discuss that matter on DCML.
However I have very recently written the second part of Duckburg's history
(1818-1902) for the DDF-Rappet - there I do comment Transgaards dating.
Sigvald
> BTW, Sigvald, I think you haven't paid much
> attention when you read this story - Gorm
> Transgaard showed a lack of respect for other
> creator(s), because there was no Duckburg in
> 1775! ;-)
I did notice that Gorm placed this story in 1775. Apparently he prefer to
ignore Barks' and Rosa's version of Duckburgs past in this story - not only
by the dating, but also by (as I read that story) ignoring the very
existence for Fort Duckburg by 1775 - but that's his free choice so I didn't
see any reason to discuss that matter on DCML.
However I have very recently written the second part of Duckburg's history
(1818-1902) for the DDF-Rappet - there I do comment Transgaards dating.
Sigvald