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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:15:11 +0100
> From: C?sar Ferioli <cferioli at feriolistudio.e.telefonica.net>
> Subject: Fecchi's style
> To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>

Hey! Now look at that! Now you people finally have a REAL artist who knows
what he's doing on the DCML !!!!

My apologies, I forgot to say I was quoting & replying to Lars:

>>> Pete debuted in 1925, three years before the Mouse.

He did? And nobody told me?!
Could you tell me more about this first appearance, please? Was it in an
Oswald cartoon?

Olivier

The classic episode is "Till Nephews Do Us Part." It was the last episode
of the first season.

Matt

>>>
http://www.google.se/search?q=cache:lykLcPssPRcJ:www.geocities.com/Hollywood
/2895/Pete.html&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8

Thanls, Stefan!
Have a nice week!

Olivier

>>> What defines Mickey's first appearence ? "Plane Crazy" (shown privately)
>>> shown in May 1928, or "Steamboat Willie" (which was Mickey's first
>>> public appearence) shown in October/November 1928 ?

Just as was said regarding Uncle Scrooge, the first appearance is the date
the story was published or the movie was first released to an audience wide
enough-- if it's too small or a test screening in one theater (as may have
been the case; I can't check), it's a bit like a private showing, or part of
the production process.

The first Mickey Mouse cartoon produced (thus, the one in which he made his
very first appearance) is "Plane Crazy", completed in May 1928; it was shown
at a local theater on May 15, with a piano accompaniment. This was the first
time an audience saw Mickey, so you may consider this as his first
appearance. However, it was just a test screening with a most limited
release, which might be considered as being still part of the
post-production; even more so, as the fiished movie, which got a "wide"
release some months later, featured a soundtrack.

The first MM cartoon short to get a "wide" release turned out to be the
third one that was animated, but the first to get a soundtrack: "Steamboat
Willie"; the official premiere was on November 18, 1928, and is thus usually
considered as Mickey's first appearance.

As Don Rosa pointed out, your birthday is the date you were actually born,
not when you were conceived nine months earlier; the same goes for any
production. You can sometimes track down the date of creation (though it
must be pretty rare to nail down the exact date the creator first had the
idea), but the Anniversary is that of the public release of the work
(whether a book, a piece of music, a movie, ...).

Olivier

From Katie's site:
> http://www.sullivanet.com/duckburg/loves/milly.htm

"In it, she tricked Scrooge into falling in love with her so she
could get at his money. Huey, Dewey, Louie and Webby
wised up to her true intentions, however, and tried to scare her
away. During an expedition into the jungle, the nephews
played tricks on her to make her think Scrooge's globe-trotting
adventures are even more hazardous than they actually are!
The prissy, fastidious Millionaira was horrified and nearly
called off the engagement."

I think I've never seen this episode, so I should probably just
keep my mouth shut, but your description strongly reminds me
of "The Parent Trap" (1998). In this Disney movie, two twin
girls try to get their divorced parents back together again and
to drive their dad and his prissy girlfriend (who's after his
money, by the way) apart during a camping trip, by dropping
lizards and such in her backpack (or something similar).
[It may sound silly, but I actually liked this movie.]

I don't know if the camping trip sequence was already in Erich
K?stner's book "Das doppelte Lottchen" on which this movie
was based. [I don't think so, though.]

Michiel Prior.

Daniel:

> "Donald! You're going to be sorrreeeeee!" Which Barks story? :-)

This is driving me CRAZY. I remember the line, but I can't place it, and I
don't have access to my library right now. Is it "The Magic Hourglass"?

Nils Smeby

Are Serieforlaget in Norway still publishing the collected works of
Taliaferro, volume by volume?
(In Denmark they ceased publication after only 4 volumes.)

Do you know somewhere (real or virtual) where you can buy or subscribe to
this series?
And is it possible to get back issues?

Thanks a lot for your help.

Kind regards
Niels