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Hello!

No one has these comic books? No one knows/remembers these?

>Hi all!
>
>I need to know what were in original panels on these duck stories:
>
>W DDCA 3 -04 (Donald Duck Comic Album) fourth page panel eight, what is the
>name of the place mentioned here (Finnish translation says "Cha Cha Hall").
>
>DG 33-08 (Dell Giant 3) Have Pencil, Will Travel (1960). Scrooge and Daisy
>travels to the some african country which is translated here as
>"Bongo-land". What it is in original? (page 2, first panel).
>
>I ask this because Jukka Lindfors is writing a preface for facsimile book
>of collected Aku Ankka magazine's 1962 volume. Thanks in advance!
>
>Best Wishes
>Timo
>

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>I have these books at home, I'll check them tonight (about 10:00 PM), if
>I'm
>not too tired to remember.

Thanks! There's no rush-rush hurry. I just wanted to know if someone here
can give me answers to these, so I can forward the information that
information is coming within few days. :-)
Thanks again!

Timo

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Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kyl? 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
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timoro at sunpoint.net

?? Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/

?? Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/

?? Kvaak-sarjakuvaportaali:
http://www.kvaak.fi
.................................
"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on a cowslip - far from me!"

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TIMO:

> Valuable Donald Duck book found in old margarine crate:

!!!

= Paulsen sent the comic books to auction firm Skanfil in Oslo

I wonder how much convincing it took to make her send the comics to an auction
house instead of holding on to them until someone pried them from her dead
fingers!

> Margarine! :-)

Margarine must be pretty important up there in the North: They have their
favorite Disney character working in a margarine factory, and people keep
their valuables in margarine crates!

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
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"You're trying to rewrite history!"
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Myklebust,Are <are.myklebust at f1101.aetat.no> wrote:

>> I am *not* a physician nor a mathematician,
>> but an historian who in his studies focused
>> on the 1700th century.

Oh, sorry, I meant the 17th century (=the 1600s) and my focus during my
final studies was on *Norwegian* history.

> You are?
> Then you are in the position the answer the
> following question:
>
> In Walt Disney's "The Scarecrow" comic books
> stories (Gold Key) from the 1960's, the action
> is taking place in England in the late 1700's.
>
> In the story "The Scarecrow meets King George"
> (story code: W SCA 3-02, published in the
> Norwegian "Walt Disney's M?nedshefte" 9/ 1968)
> we meet King George III (the British Monarch
> 1760 - 1820).
>
> Is the portrait given of King George in this
> comic book story accurate?

I am sorry that, as I am not familiar with the Scarecrow-series that you are
mentioning here and I don't have the Norwegian magazine you are referring to
either, I can't be very helpful here.

Actually the only Disney-reference to King George III that I can remember
having seen before is the one in Don Rosa's "His Majesty McDuck", page 6,
panels 5 and 6.

King George III is one of the longest ruling monarchs in British history as
he ruled for 60 years (1760-1820). During his long reign UK conquered the
French colonies in North-America, they lost their colonies in New England
(=USA) and finally helped defeating Napoleon. George III himself became
blind and temporarily insane in his old days, and was replaced by his son
George IV in 1820. George III died in 1829. I have briefly mentioned King
George III in part 2 of "Andebys Historie" that I have written for the
Danish Donaldist Society.

Sigvald

Myklebust,Are <are.myklebust at f1101.aetat.no> wrote:

>> Ob(v)iously that stupid journalist is wrong!
>> The valuable items are magazines *not* books.
>
> It isn't magazines either! The items are COMIC
> BOOKS! So the "stupid" journalist is almost
> correct!

No she (it's a female journalist we're talking about here) is *NOT* correct.
My encyclopaedia says that the definition of a book is "printed material
that are tied together to a whole consisting of *at least* 49 pages". The
first issue of DD&Co is 20 pages, in the 1950s they were 36 pages ? still
far away from being classified as a book.

Sigvald

Lauri Jaakkola:

> Never write things if you're not perfectly sure...

Why not? I can understand if you feel a little uncertain after popping
up for the first time, but please don't let that uncertainty prevent you
from asking questions or trying to figure things out. If everybody on
this mailinglist would feel perfectly sure about everything, there
would be no need for discussions, would there? :)

And especially when talking about such *obscure* characters like
Ludwig von Drake and Gideon McDuck, you shouldn't feel ashamed
of not being perfectly sure. I don't know about Finland, but in Holland
these characters either don't show up very often or simply don't exist
at all.

> Once Finnish U$ -pocket-size magazine had some history of
> Ludwig. There was a part which said that Matilda and
> Ludwig had some romances in the past.

Some history? Was this an article or a comic story?
A comic story [and a non-Rosa story at that] stating a
relationship between Ludwig and Matilda would be something
very special, since this relationship is still not 'official' [until it
shows up in a comic story, that is]. And I'm afraid Katie's
'Webbed bliss' doesn't count.

Speaking of Ludwig, his supposed marriage to Matilda and his
absence from "A Letter from Home": one explanation for his
absence can be that Ludwig and Matilda just *weren't married
yet* when "A Letter from Home" took place.

Let's try to figure things out: "A Letter from Home takes" place
after "The Crown of the Crusader Kings" which takes place
after "The Fabulous Philosopher's Stone" (1955) AND after
"Return to Xanadu" which takes place after "The Valley of
Tralla-La" (1954) AND after "The Lost Crown of Genghis
Khan" (1956). Thus "A Letter from Home" takes place in or
after late 1956. [One weak spot in this reasoning is that I
deliberately choose to ignore the dates of the trophies in
Scrooge's trophy room in "Xanadu" en "Crusaders".]

Ludwig's first appearance dates from 1961 and by then he's
already Donald's uncle. So, let's suppose Ludwig and Matilda
married between 1956 and 1961 and after "A Letter from
Home". [I don't know what to make of Ludwig's appearance,
without Matilda, in "A little something special" which is
supposed to take place in 1952.]

Further points for speculation:

- Matilda didn't live at Castle McDuck until after "The Old
Castle's Secret" (1948). After the death of Scottie McTerrier,
there was no one left to guard it, maybe that's why she moved
in.

- Don Rosa told us that Sir Quackly's ghost doesn't appear in
"A Letter from Home". Even *his* absence can be explained.
What I know about ghosts is that they're supposed to be the
spirits of people that haven't been buried properly. This was
true of Sir Quackly, who had managed to seal himself in, and
his treasure AND his bones hadn't been found until 1948.

Don't you think $crooge must have given his ancestor's bones a
proper funeral? [Which is also a proper retribution for the
support and advice Sir Quackly gave young $crooge.] After his
burial, sir Quackly wouldn't have much reason to keep
haunting the Castle.

I think this is enough reasoning for today. Had a lot of fun with
it, though. I'm pleased to see that, even when every detail
seems to have been worked out by Don Rosa, there's still
enough room for speculation.

Greetings,

Michiel Prior.

Timo wrote:
> > Valuable Donald Duck book found in old
> > margarine crate:

Sigvald answered:
> Obiously that stupid journalist is wrong! The valuable items are magazines
> *not* books.

If anyone is wrong here, it's Timo, not the journalist. Throughout the entire
article, the "stupid" journalist doesn't mention books at all. It's "comic
books", which we know is correct. Anyone who bothered to click the link would
have seen that.

And I don't see why Timo writing "book" instead of "comic book" would make
him "stupid". That's a very, very normal typo, I think - at least a very
acceptable one. No need to call anyone stupid over that.

Olaf

SIGVALD GROSFJELD to TIMO RONKAINEN, 12-11-2003:

> Obiously that stupid journalist is wrong!

You just don't want to stop, eh?

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