The "trick" of salting a bird's tail to prevent its escape was used in the
first WOODY WOOPECKER cartoon (which was actually an ANDY PANDA cartoon).
As noted in an earlier post, the procedure was already a well-known "fact"
for well over a century before the cartoon was made in the early 1940s.
I've never found an origin for this legend, but it's long been something
parents told their kids to watch the reaction (at least until the present
generation -- most youngsters I confront with this tale today are unfamiliar
with it). It's fun watching little ones in the back yard with a slat shaker
in their mitts.
A brand of salt sold in England (CERBEROS) actually has a picture of a small
boy attempting to salt a bird's tail on the label.
Dan
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Dan Shane
Salting a bird's tail...
Message 406 -
2003-11-27 at 15:40:07
Timo Ronkainen
Gladstone's luck
Message 407 -
2003-11-27 at 18:04:27
>in "The Goldilocks
>Gambit" Gladstone Is having a Job (him? A job? Now wey) and in "Gladstone
>terebilly secret" Gladstone sey he have only one job in whole his Live. See
>the conecsion? :-)
Hey, thats right! Gladstone got that one coin from working in that camp!
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>Gambit" Gladstone Is having a Job (him? A job? Now wey) and in "Gladstone
>terebilly secret" Gladstone sey he have only one job in whole his Live. See
>the conecsion? :-)
Hey, thats right! Gladstone got that one coin from working in that camp!
Timo
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MOC 41 - what is this? / WH B6-00
Message 408 -
2003-11-27 at 19:42:01
Can anyone help me figure out what this is?
http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/story.php/0/W+MOC++41-02
Its layout being "1" and its number of pages being "+"... If this is well-
established INDUCKS code, I just haven't seen it before. Also what makes me
wonder is that its characters are the exact same as in W MOC 41-01 (Race to the
South Seas).
If this is a story, it seems to be the first non-Barks Scrooge story. Which is
why I wonder. (Otherwise, it's W WH B6-00)
Also, can someone tell me a little about the action in W WH B6-00 ("Trail
blazer" by Bob Moore)? I see it's 30 pages long, and wonder what happens there.
http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/story.php/0/W+MOC++41-02
Its layout being "1" and its number of pages being "+"... If this is well-
established INDUCKS code, I just haven't seen it before. Also what makes me
wonder is that its characters are the exact same as in W MOC 41-01 (Race to the
South Seas).
If this is a story, it seems to be the first non-Barks Scrooge story. Which is
why I wonder. (Otherwise, it's W WH B6-00)
Also, can someone tell me a little about the action in W WH B6-00 ("Trail
blazer" by Bob Moore)? I see it's 30 pages long, and wonder what happens there.
Stefan Persson
MOC 41 - what is this? / WH B6-00
Message 409 -
2003-11-27 at 20:18:38
Olaf Solstrand wrote:
> Can anyone help me figure out what this is?
> Its layout being "1"
Layout "1" = 1-tierd. Obviously COA doesn't translate "1" into
something like it does with e.g. layout "3" or layout "4".
> and its number of pages being "+"...
Actually, it is pages:0; part_of_page: +. This means that it takes up
less than one page. Obviously COA doesn't translate this into something
better, which I consider a COA bug.
Stefan
> Can anyone help me figure out what this is?
> Its layout being "1"
Layout "1" = 1-tierd. Obviously COA doesn't translate "1" into
something like it does with e.g. layout "3" or layout "4".
> and its number of pages being "+"...
Actually, it is pages:0; part_of_page: +. This means that it takes up
less than one page. Obviously COA doesn't translate this into something
better, which I consider a COA bug.
Stefan
Frank Bubacz
Early non-Barks Scrooge
Message 410 -
2003-11-27 at 21:02:05
Olaf:
>I see it's 30 pages long
Yes, but the pages are 1-tiers, like this:
http://www.fortunecity.de/lindenpark/foto/597/wh_b-8/29.jpg
http://www.fortunecity.de/lindenpark/foto/597/wh_b-8/30.jpg
From "Klondike Kid", maybe Scrooge's second non-Barks appearance. Note that
there are some other DD giveaways preceding "Trail Blazer" without the
appearing characters being inducksed.
Frank
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>I see it's 30 pages long
Yes, but the pages are 1-tiers, like this:
http://www.fortunecity.de/lindenpark/foto/597/wh_b-8/29.jpg
http://www.fortunecity.de/lindenpark/foto/597/wh_b-8/30.jpg
From "Klondike Kid", maybe Scrooge's second non-Barks appearance. Note that
there are some other DD giveaways preceding "Trail Blazer" without the
appearing characters being inducksed.
Frank
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Message 411 -
2003-11-27 at 21:47:14
>You think? Then... how come Donald was so surprised to hear he had a job,
>then?
Ummm, on second thought that's true. There is contradiction btween these two
stories.
Well, smooth one-shot stories were always the main goal for Barks, not
consistent unbroken continuity.
Timo
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>then?
Ummm, on second thought that's true. There is contradiction btween these two
stories.
Well, smooth one-shot stories were always the main goal for Barks, not
consistent unbroken continuity.
Timo
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Favorite DuckTales eps
Message 412 -
2003-11-27 at 21:54:03
Here's my take on the best DT eps:
You absolutely, positively have to put "Treasure of the Golden Suns" first on your list. It set the standard for the series to come and simply blew me away the first time I saw it. (Luckily, thanks to competing stations in the Providence RI TV market, I was able to watch the two-hour premiere movie twice in two days -- a welcome luxury in my VCR-less days.)
In original broadcast order, here are what I would consider to be the best of the half-hour eps:
1) Where no Duck has Gone Before -- Established Launchpad's character for good and all.
2) Master of the Djinni -- A great Scrooge-Glomgold duel, spiced with time travel.
3) Sir Gyro de Gearloose -- I still contend that this is the single best Gyro story ever done in ANY medium.
4) Hero for Hire -- Another key ep in the development of Launchpad, and technically just about perfect, despite a certain slowness owing to its early production date.
5) Much Ado about Scrooge -- Great Shakespeare pastiche, good one-shot supporting player (Filler Brushbill the super salesman), and a rare chance for a single nephew (Louie) to shine.
6) Top Duck -- The third entry in the trilogy that fully defined Launchpad for all time; just as good as the other two.
7) Pearl of Wisdom -- Scrooge vs. Black Pete in a warm homage to the Fallberg-Murry "Mickey Mouse seafaring adventures."
8) Home Sweet Homer -- Spectacular Duck-version of ancient Greek mythology.
9) Bermuda Triangle Tangle -- I always thought that Captain Bounty was one of the best one-shot antagonists in the series, and the basic premise is quite ingenious.
10) Scrooge's Pet -- Really good adaptation of "The Lemming with the Locket."
11) Time Teasers -- Barks-quality time-travel tale that compares well to Don Rosa's "On Stolen Time."
12) Raiders of the Lost Harp -- Another unforgettable Duck-take on Greek (well, Cretan) myth and legend, and a great role for Magica as well.
13) Double-0-Duck -- Among the funniest and most visually appealing eps of the first season, and when you factor in the debt that the later series "Darkwing Duck" owes to it...
14) Duck in the Iron Mask -- Until Pat Block ("Widow's Gap") and Kori Kerhonen came along, this was definitely the best example I'd ever seen of a great story that focused on a single nephew... and it still ranks right up there with those later pen-and-ink efforts.
15) The Uncrashable Hindentanic -- I defy anyone to sit through this one with a straight face.
16) All Ducks on Deck -- Beats out "Spies in their Eyes" as the best ep with Donald, in large part due to the wholly unexpected appearance by the Phantom Blot.
17) Till Nephews do us Part -- Everyone seems to love this first-season clincher.
18) The Land of Trala La -- Best of the Barks adaptations, along with "The Unbreakable Bin" and "Scrooge's Pet." I think that the changes and the addition of Fenton/Gizmoduck actually IMPROVED on Barks' original.
19) Allowance Day -- A grandly absurd "escalation" plot in the best Barks tradition.
20) The Good Muddahs -- Noncanonical they may be, but I loved The Beagle Babes, and Webby as a would-be "young moll" is the comic highlight of her (frequently painfully earnest) career.
21) A Case of Mistaken Secret Identity -- Fenton's version of the "Launchpad trilogy", this ep firmly established his frequently aggravating relationship with his alter-ego, Gizmoduck.
22) Beaglemania -- Utterly ridiculous, but a GOOD kind of ridiculous. I once described my initial reaction to this episode as "slack-jawed shock", but unlike the later series "Bonkers" and "Goof Troop," "DT" knew how to put across such absurdity and make it seem almost believable.
23) The Unbreakable Bin -- Gizmoduck adds something extra to this excellent adaptation of "The Unsafe Safe."
24) The Masked Mallard -- Once you see Scrooge in superhero duds, you'll NEVER forget it!
25) The Golden Goose -- Talk about going out with a bang. The sole highlight of the generally mediocre handful of new final-season eps.
Comments and disagreements welcome, of course!
Happy American Thanksgiving,
Chris Barat
You absolutely, positively have to put "Treasure of the Golden Suns" first on your list. It set the standard for the series to come and simply blew me away the first time I saw it. (Luckily, thanks to competing stations in the Providence RI TV market, I was able to watch the two-hour premiere movie twice in two days -- a welcome luxury in my VCR-less days.)
In original broadcast order, here are what I would consider to be the best of the half-hour eps:
1) Where no Duck has Gone Before -- Established Launchpad's character for good and all.
2) Master of the Djinni -- A great Scrooge-Glomgold duel, spiced with time travel.
3) Sir Gyro de Gearloose -- I still contend that this is the single best Gyro story ever done in ANY medium.
4) Hero for Hire -- Another key ep in the development of Launchpad, and technically just about perfect, despite a certain slowness owing to its early production date.
5) Much Ado about Scrooge -- Great Shakespeare pastiche, good one-shot supporting player (Filler Brushbill the super salesman), and a rare chance for a single nephew (Louie) to shine.
6) Top Duck -- The third entry in the trilogy that fully defined Launchpad for all time; just as good as the other two.
7) Pearl of Wisdom -- Scrooge vs. Black Pete in a warm homage to the Fallberg-Murry "Mickey Mouse seafaring adventures."
8) Home Sweet Homer -- Spectacular Duck-version of ancient Greek mythology.
9) Bermuda Triangle Tangle -- I always thought that Captain Bounty was one of the best one-shot antagonists in the series, and the basic premise is quite ingenious.
10) Scrooge's Pet -- Really good adaptation of "The Lemming with the Locket."
11) Time Teasers -- Barks-quality time-travel tale that compares well to Don Rosa's "On Stolen Time."
12) Raiders of the Lost Harp -- Another unforgettable Duck-take on Greek (well, Cretan) myth and legend, and a great role for Magica as well.
13) Double-0-Duck -- Among the funniest and most visually appealing eps of the first season, and when you factor in the debt that the later series "Darkwing Duck" owes to it...
14) Duck in the Iron Mask -- Until Pat Block ("Widow's Gap") and Kori Kerhonen came along, this was definitely the best example I'd ever seen of a great story that focused on a single nephew... and it still ranks right up there with those later pen-and-ink efforts.
15) The Uncrashable Hindentanic -- I defy anyone to sit through this one with a straight face.
16) All Ducks on Deck -- Beats out "Spies in their Eyes" as the best ep with Donald, in large part due to the wholly unexpected appearance by the Phantom Blot.
17) Till Nephews do us Part -- Everyone seems to love this first-season clincher.
18) The Land of Trala La -- Best of the Barks adaptations, along with "The Unbreakable Bin" and "Scrooge's Pet." I think that the changes and the addition of Fenton/Gizmoduck actually IMPROVED on Barks' original.
19) Allowance Day -- A grandly absurd "escalation" plot in the best Barks tradition.
20) The Good Muddahs -- Noncanonical they may be, but I loved The Beagle Babes, and Webby as a would-be "young moll" is the comic highlight of her (frequently painfully earnest) career.
21) A Case of Mistaken Secret Identity -- Fenton's version of the "Launchpad trilogy", this ep firmly established his frequently aggravating relationship with his alter-ego, Gizmoduck.
22) Beaglemania -- Utterly ridiculous, but a GOOD kind of ridiculous. I once described my initial reaction to this episode as "slack-jawed shock", but unlike the later series "Bonkers" and "Goof Troop," "DT" knew how to put across such absurdity and make it seem almost believable.
23) The Unbreakable Bin -- Gizmoduck adds something extra to this excellent adaptation of "The Unsafe Safe."
24) The Masked Mallard -- Once you see Scrooge in superhero duds, you'll NEVER forget it!
25) The Golden Goose -- Talk about going out with a bang. The sole highlight of the generally mediocre handful of new final-season eps.
Comments and disagreements welcome, of course!
Happy American Thanksgiving,
Chris Barat
Olaf Solstrand
Gladstone's luck
Message 413 -
2003-11-27 at 21:58:49
> Ummm, on second thought that's true. There is contradiction btween these two
> stories.
> Well, smooth one-shot stories were always the main goal for Barks, not
> consistent unbroken continuity.
My guess was always that Gladstone took this job because he was bored and
needed something new to do - not for the money - and that he therefor didn't
count it as a job. (that was before I figured out that this story was written
before "Gladstone's terrible secret", though.)
Besides - isn't "selling golden bricks by the bridge" also qualifiable as a
job? And hasn't Gladstone also "worked" for Scrooge, by going on expeditions
for him? I think that Gladstone does this only for the challenge, to get a
break from always getting what he wants (which is terribly boring), and that he
therefor doesn't think of it as "jobs", but just another thing he does on his
spare time.
Oh well.
Another question: Is "Donald's Love Letters" (WDC 111) the first story where
Gladstone shows romantical interest for Daisy? Or would you say that is shown
in "Gladstone returns"? I like thinking of "Donald's Love Letters" as the story
where Donald *figures out* that Gladstone is interested in Daisy, and that it
has been a secret until that very day.. for everybody but Daisy and Gladstone.
Whaddya' think?
Olaf
> stories.
> Well, smooth one-shot stories were always the main goal for Barks, not
> consistent unbroken continuity.
My guess was always that Gladstone took this job because he was bored and
needed something new to do - not for the money - and that he therefor didn't
count it as a job. (that was before I figured out that this story was written
before "Gladstone's terrible secret", though.)
Besides - isn't "selling golden bricks by the bridge" also qualifiable as a
job? And hasn't Gladstone also "worked" for Scrooge, by going on expeditions
for him? I think that Gladstone does this only for the challenge, to get a
break from always getting what he wants (which is terribly boring), and that he
therefor doesn't think of it as "jobs", but just another thing he does on his
spare time.
Oh well.
Another question: Is "Donald's Love Letters" (WDC 111) the first story where
Gladstone shows romantical interest for Daisy? Or would you say that is shown
in "Gladstone returns"? I like thinking of "Donald's Love Letters" as the story
where Donald *figures out* that Gladstone is interested in Daisy, and that it
has been a secret until that very day.. for everybody but Daisy and Gladstone.
Whaddya' think?
Olaf
Olaf Solstrand
Urly-burly Rumpus
Message 414 -
2003-11-27 at 23:23:29
Is it correct that D 91377 "It's all relative", the first story of Rumpus
McFowl, still is unpublished in Sweden and Denmark, or are there just missing
data in INDUCKS about it?
Olaf.
McFowl, still is unpublished in Sweden and Denmark, or are there just missing
data in INDUCKS about it?
Olaf.
Myklebust,Are
MOC 41 - what is this? / WH B6-00
Message 415 -
2003-11-28 at 09:01:22
OLAF WROTE:
>Also, can someone tell me a little about the action in W WH B6-00 ("Trail
>blazer" by Bob Moore)? I see it's 30 pages long, and wonder what happens
>there.
Hi Olaf!
Just a small correction:
W WH B6-00 refers to the cover (by Carl Buettner).
W WH B6-01 is the story code for "Trail Blazer".
Are Myklebust
>Also, can someone tell me a little about the action in W WH B6-00 ("Trail
>blazer" by Bob Moore)? I see it's 30 pages long, and wonder what happens
>there.
Hi Olaf!
Just a small correction:
W WH B6-00 refers to the cover (by Carl Buettner).
W WH B6-01 is the story code for "Trail Blazer".
Are Myklebust
Gerd Syllwasschy
Salting a tail...
Message 416 -
2003-11-28 at 11:46:13
Interestingly, a similar saying exists in some regions of Germany: "einem Hasen Salz auf den Schwanz streuen" ("sprinkle salt on a *rabbit's* tail"). Just a bit more surreal, I would say ...
Now, why salt? In pre-refridgerating times, salt was an indispensable means to preserve meat. If you forgot to salten your meat, it might virtually "run away", i.e., get spoiled. Maybe this is where the saying comes from? Just a guess ...
And why the tail? I don't know. Why a duck?
Gerd
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Now, why salt? In pre-refridgerating times, salt was an indispensable means to preserve meat. If you forgot to salten your meat, it might virtually "run away", i.e., get spoiled. Maybe this is where the saying comes from? Just a guess ...
And why the tail? I don't know. Why a duck?
Gerd
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Rumpus McX
Message 417 -
2003-11-28 at 12:39:57
Hi,
I'm trying to figure out a little something about the development of Rumpus
McFowl, and would need to know *one* thing right now:
In WDCS 593, "It's all relative", were Rumpus' *last name* ever mentioned?
Another issue: I would be VERY grateful if anyone could help me get in touch
with Bill van Horn (I have a few questions I would love to ask him). If anyone
can give me his address (either postal or electronical), you will always have
my gratitude.
Best,
Olaf
I'm trying to figure out a little something about the development of Rumpus
McFowl, and would need to know *one* thing right now:
In WDCS 593, "It's all relative", were Rumpus' *last name* ever mentioned?
Another issue: I would be VERY grateful if anyone could help me get in touch
with Bill van Horn (I have a few questions I would love to ask him). If anyone
can give me his address (either postal or electronical), you will always have
my gratitude.
Best,
Olaf
Olaf Solstrand
MOC 41 - what is this? / WH B6-00
Message 418 -
2003-11-28 at 14:27:11
> Just a small correction:
> W WH B6-00 refers to the cover (by Carl Buettner).
> W WH B6-01 is the story code for "Trail Blazer".
Of course. My eyes slipped, and I looked at the "Referred to in" field instead
of the "story code" field. My mistake.
Olaf
> W WH B6-00 refers to the cover (by Carl Buettner).
> W WH B6-01 is the story code for "Trail Blazer".
Of course. My eyes slipped, and I looked at the "Referred to in" field instead
of the "story code" field. My mistake.
Olaf
Eta Beta
Marxisms
Message 419 -
2003-11-28 at 22:25:26
Hi Gerd!
>Why a duck?
Whatever it is, I'm against it!
;-)
Cheers!
Eta Beta
>Why a duck?
Whatever it is, I'm against it!
;-)
Cheers!
Eta Beta
Larry Giver
WDC #111; "Donald's Love Letters"?
Message 420 -
2003-11-29 at 11:17:49
Why was Barks' untitled story in WDC #111 given the title "Donald's
Love Letters", when at the end of the story we find they were
written by Gladstone? A better title might be "Not Donald's
Love Letters"? On the first page, Daisy is angry with Donald,
and throws 3 items at him: his class pin, his picture, and
the letters. However, looking carefully at the picture in panels 2 and 7,
I think the picture looks more like Gladstone than Donald.
Certainly the hat is not Donald's normal hat, but more like
Gladstone's usual hat, and the expression is the usual
smug Gladstone expression. Maybe even the class pin was
Gladstone's? Daisy was certainly mixed up in this story.
Love Letters", when at the end of the story we find they were
written by Gladstone? A better title might be "Not Donald's
Love Letters"? On the first page, Daisy is angry with Donald,
and throws 3 items at him: his class pin, his picture, and
the letters. However, looking carefully at the picture in panels 2 and 7,
I think the picture looks more like Gladstone than Donald.
Certainly the hat is not Donald's normal hat, but more like
Gladstone's usual hat, and the expression is the usual
smug Gladstone expression. Maybe even the class pin was
Gladstone's? Daisy was certainly mixed up in this story.