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Starting 1 November, the Danish give-away newspaper "MetroXpress" publishes
a daily Donald Duck strip.
It looks as if they've started with the strip from 6 May 1957 and are going
to continue chronologically.
On the opening day, they also ran an article about the duck's history and
personality (and mentioning Carl Barks, Al Taliaferro, Tony Strobl, Freddy
Milton and Flemming Andersen).

Niels.

Quoting "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr." <sigvald at duckburg.dk>:

> Assuming you have listed all the mentioned creators I must say that it
> gives
> me an *impression* of Danish chauvinism (the mentioning of Milton and
> Andersen) combined with a clear lack of respect for great modern non-Danish
> creators like Don Rosa, William Van Horn, Marco Rota and others.

Aren't EVERYBODY chauvinistic every now and then, Sigvald? I mean... take me
and you for example. Long before any of my stories were printed, you suggested
to this list that my stories should a) be printed by Gemstone and b) be
collected in own books. You wouldn't have suggested that if I was Polish or
Chinese.

Personally, I don't see any harm done in that article. As long as the old
squadron - people like Taliaferro and Barks - are presented, I think that's all
there's needed for such an article. I have no problem seeing that strong
national feeling makes them add to this article that e.g. Freddy Milton and
Flemming Andersen are making Disney comics today (note that I use the
word "national feeling", not "chauvinism". Also, please note the MAJOR
difference between nationalism and nazism). For an article following such a
series of strips, that's not really necessary, but it's nationalistic. And I
see no problem in being nationalistic. It's not necessary to mention e.g. Don
Rosa in such an article either, even though many agree he's the best Disney
comics creator there is today. An article about the development of Donald Duck
*needs* no mention of the greatest creators today, but everything always looks
better with a little nationalism.

But as I frankly think that's a silly little thing to argue about, I'll stop
now.

Best,
Olaf

SIGVALD GROSFJELD to NIELS HANSEN, 04-11-2003:

>> On the opening day, [MetroXpress] also ran an article about the
>> duck's history and personality (and mentioning Carl Barks,
>> Al Taliaferro, Tony Strobl, Freddy Milton and Flemming Andersen).

> Assuming you have listed all the mentioned creators I must say that
> it gives me an *impression* of Danish chauvinism (the mentioning of
> Milton and Andersen) combined with a clear lack of respect for great
> modern non-Danish creators like Don Rosa, William Van Horn, Marco
> Rota and others.

Okay, I'll bite. Assuming you have found it really necessary to write
this email I must say that it gives it gives me an *impression* of a
stubborn guy who's just going to continue polluting this mailing list
with annoying nonsense about other people and countries. Will you ever
learn?

You're full of judging about other people's "lack of respect".
Where's your own (self)respect?

--- Dani?l, quite stubborn himself, by once again replying to this stuff

Hi all
>
Niels:
>
>Starting 1 November, the Danish give-away newspaper "MetroXpress"
>publishes
>a daily Donald Duck strip.
>It looks as if they've started with the strip from 6 May 1957 and are
>going
>to continue chronologically.
>On the opening day, they also ran an article about the duck's history and
>personality (and mentioning Carl Barks, Al Taliaferro, Tony Strobl, Freddy
>Milton and Flemming Andersen).
Thanks for this bit of information, Niels - maybe you could grap a couple
of
extra copies one day if you pass a place with a stack of the paper?
>
Sigvald:
>
>Assuming you have listed all the mentioned creators I must say that it
>gives
>me an *impression* of Danish chauvinism (the mentioning of Milton and
>Andersen) combined with a clear lack of respect for great modern
>non-Danish
>creators like Don Rosa, William Van Horn, Marco Rota and others.

I would say: it gives *you* an impression - You nor i have read the
article.
A journalist maybe writing about a subject who isn't in his own field of
interest,
might chose those writers, and add two danish ones that are known here.
The ones chosen are the ones known. Yes, don Rosa is known too, but he's
new.
He wouldn't be mentioned in connection with an article introducing to news
paper
strips from 1957 - thinking about it, who made the manuscripts after that
year?
should he be mentioned? Was it Osborne?
I'm glad they actually printed an article about the ducks in connection
with this.

Niels, could you scan the article - or maybe bring it for the xmasmeeting
in DDF(R) -
if you're coming. (All members of the club here - welcome)

Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist

RODNEY BOWCOCK, 04-11-2003:

>> Assuming you have listed all the mentioned creators I must say
>> that it gives me an *impression* of Danish chauvinism

> Do we really have to go through all of this again?! It's a
> newspaper article, and it sure wouldn't be a good one if it
> listed the 29 best artists in Duck comics.

I think the complaint isn't about having to list 29 best artists in
Duck comics, at all. My guess is that (once again) the complaint is
about the omission of the name of just *one* particular artist. (The
first of the three names mentioned in the complaint.) This is just
my *impression*, though.

--- Dani?l

Hi

I read the article about Don Rosa in the Kentucky Alumni (can be seen
here: http://duckman.pettho.com/alumni1.jpg ), I have been wondering
what the advantages about the techniques of drawing backwards to you
reach halfway, and then draw from the beginning till you reach the
beginning ?

Maybe Don Rosa would tell more about this ?

Best,
Mads

DANI?L:

> I think the complaint isn't about having to list 29 best artists in
> Duck comics, at all. My guess is that (once again) the complaint is
> about the omission of the name of just *one* particular artist. (The
> first of the three names mentioned in the complaint.) This is just
> my *impression*, though.

Heh. This is not only your *impression*, it is also my *impression*, so
all in all we have a *shared impression* on this matter :-)

Anyway, we have a similar give-away paper up here in Aalborg (far from
the capital), but that is unfortunately less interesting (mildy
speaking). However, like AC, I sure hope that Niels will either scan the
article or optionally index the strips which are not in Inducks already.

S?ren