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Olivier
Didier:

>>> I just realised that Amazon.com is selling individual copies of the
Gemstone
>>> comics. Since I am only interested in the issues that contain Don Rosa
>>> stories, this sounds like a great solution to order them from abroad.

I answer your questions below. First, thanks for pointing this out, Didier!
I had already noticed amazon.fr carried the Donald Duck Adventures pocket
book, but nothing else.

And now, indeed, I see a couple of WDC&S issues; that of February, for
instance-- or the one of August (?), though it seems they can't have it
until December. Great prices, too: 6.25 euros!
I pay 9 euros for each at the comics store; since I order many books from
amazon, I easily have more than 20 euros so that the shipping is free--
meaning I would still pay the WDC&S titles 6.25 euros only, for instance.

I'll try and keep an eye on this. I don't have any DDA pocket book yet. I
guess I'll try ordering some through them. I wonder whether they will
actually carry the WDC&S titles, especially in France.
Might it be possible because of their binding, which would enable it to be
as considered in a "book" category, as opposed to "newspapers", which they
don't carry?
Might this also enable amazon.fr to sell them in France? We know that comics
stores normally aren't allowed to carry American Disney commics because
Disney considers we ought to buy the existing French Disney magazines (as
opposed ot other countries who don't have local Disney magazines)?

I hope so. I'm very satisifed of amazon.fr, and would gladly order from
them, especially at that price-- $3 saved + $3 saved + $3 saved + ... =
$$$$$ (well, euros-- surely enough to fill a miniature Money Bin)!

We ought to write amazon.fr and tell them that "reading age! 4-8 years old"
is quite erroneous.

>>>So I am wondering if one of you could give me the ISBN for the following
6
>>>issues :
>>>U$ 319, 321, 323
>>>WDC&S : 635, 636, 637

I am missing a couple issues, unfortunately, so I can't tell you for U$ 319.
Here are the others--

U$ 321 (Sept) ( "Attaaack!" ): 0911903186
U$ 323 (Nov) ( "The Coin" ): 0911903232
WDC&S 635 (Aug) ( "The Three Caballeros Ride Again" 1/3 ): 0970092202
WDC&S 636 (Sept) ( "The Three Caballeros Ride Again" 2/3 ): 0911903178
WDC&S 637 (Oct) ( "The Three Caballeros Ride Again" 3/3 ): sorry, can't find
it; the place where the bar code with the ISBN is printed on 636 is blank
here (?)

Olivier
Stefan Persson
Didier Ghez wrote:
> So I am wondering if one of you could give me the ISBN for the following 6
> issues :
>
> U$ 319, 321, 323
> WDC&S : 635, 636, 637

U$ 319: ? (can't find it anywhere in the issue)
U$ 320: ? (can't find it anywhere in the issue)
U$ 321: 0-911903-18-6
U$ 322: ? (can't find it anywhere in the issue)
U$ 323: 0-911903-23-2
WDC 634: ? (can't find it anywhere in the issue)
WDC 635: ? (can't find it anywhere in the issue)
WDC 636: 0-911903-17-8
WDC 637: ? (can't find it anywhere in the issue)
WDC 638: 0-911903-22-4

I've also included information about all other issues, in case that
helps you identifying some of the missing ISBNs. For example, I would
guess that the numbers were assigned in chronological order. However, I
don't know if Amazon has managed to find the other ISBNs either.

Stefan
Rich Bellacera
Arie Fachrisal:
>In some Barks stories, i read the expression i stated
>as subject above. As a non-american, i probably put
>people who use "brother" expression into stereotypes
>of Afro-American people.

Well, in the context of "today" or contemporary slang,
the word "brother" is not actually spoken when used
in this form, it's moreso said as "brutha." As such
it's typically implied to be spoken by one who would
acknowledge the other as having some implied familail
relation, whether ethnic or other. I'm White (Italian)
but have been called such, by Blacks and others, depending
on the context of the conversation and the relaxed form
of speech. Usually it implies a common struggle/background
though it it definitely more commonly used among Blacks.

Barks' use of the word doesn't have an ethnic overtone,
IMHO. In Barks' time, the word was commonly used in a
similar fashion... just meaning the person feels a kinship
on some level with the person being called it, whether a
co-worker sharing a similar work environment, or a protestor
sharing a similar political opinion.

In modern context the word "brother" is still used the way
Barks used it, but it's not as common, and probably seen as
a bit archaic. Typically folks just use the word "man" or
just skip the term and say, "You ain't kidd'n!"

In the context of Barks, Taliaferro, and others (even Rosa
writing a period-piece) using it, it was fairly similar
to throw-away expressions like "Phooey!" Just filler-words
to add emphasis to a comment.

Now, IMHO, a phrase like "brother, im nervous and i gotta blow on
something" would carry a very different connotation TODAY, and
probably wouldn't be said in polite company.

Not that it's offensive as in a "discriminatory" way, but that
it's former meaning is lost among today's youth. "blow" meanng
either sexual, intoxication (drugs), or firearms (as in "I'm
gonna blow you away [with a gun]"). "Blowing a tire" would not
be a use of the word unless you were driving and ran over a
nail. Sorry if anyone is offended, but I think everyone here
is old enough to speak intelligently about such, and I only
use it as an example of the changing use of words in modern
American language.

Thanks,

Rich Bellacera
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Mnaiman1
I will have a multitude of Uncle Scrooge items
for sale on eBay this weekend....including Rosa artwork,
a bronze, and the Carl Barks Treasury

Michael Naiman
L. Schulte
To Arie:
Concerning the use of "brother", it was more common among average people in
the 1920's and 30's. There was even a famous song from the Great
Depression "Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?" Today it is usually used among
Afro-Americans, sometimes shortened to "bro".
Another 1920's-1930's expression of address to a stranger of the same class
- used among the working class - was "Mac", which sometimes appears in the
older comics (e.g. "Hey Mac! Can you spare a dime?")
KUR
> > Some history? Was this an article or a comic story?
> > A comic story [and a non-Rosa story at that] stating a
> > relationship between Ludwig and Matilda would be something
> > very special, since this relationship is still not 'official'
> > [until it
> > shows up in a comic story, that is]. And I'm afraid Katie's
> > 'Webbed bliss' doesn't count.
>
> LOL!! I'm just flattered you saw and remembered his cameo! ;-D

By the way.
In story you made :
http://www.sullivanet.com/duckburg/myart/webbedbliss/bliss13.gif
Whou is theat woman siting next to Gladstone? I realy arent 100% sure who is
she. She look like Miss Quackerfaster but she look much laik Grandma duck
to.

Yours
Maciek
Gary Leach
Olaf:

> ...do Gemstone pick stories
> by American writers and artists on purpose or is it just a coincidence?

One of the goals of Gemstone is to publish the large backlog of Egmont
stories by American creators. Two simple reasons: American creators
tend to produce stories with a natural American flavor, and they've
been creating in something of a linguistic vacuum for a while.

Gary
Larry Giver
On Nov. 12, in issue 24, Michiel Prior wrote:
[One weak spot in this reasoning is that I
deliberately choose to ignore the dates of the trophies in
Scrooge's trophy room in "Xanadu" en "Crusaders".]
Xanadu is my favorite Rosa sequel (haven't seen Crusaders yet, of course)
and I didn't recall seeing any dates on trophies on display at the
beginning of the story. So I reviewed my copy in US 261. I found one date
in the first panel, lower right next to Donald's tail feathers: 1916! It's
good
Michiel Prior ignored this date, since it has nothing to do with the time the
story featuring that trophy occured. That story was "Atlantis", when Scrooge
decided to make one 1916 quarter rare and valuable by dumping all other
1916 quarters into the Atlantic ocean. But that quarter was flattened by a
steamroller. The 1916 quarter shown on the trophy shelf in Xanadu is the
only quarter retrieved from sunken Atlantis; at the end of the story Scrooge
tried to sell it to a coin dealer, but found only Scrooge himself was rich
enough to afford it, so he still has it. As I recall, Rosa also showed the
flattened 1916 quarter in Scrooge's store room in another story.
Didier Ghez
Olivier,
Stefan,

Thanks for your help. Unfortunately it does not make things much clearer. I
tried sending an email to Amazon but it did not help either (got a very
unprecise answer).

Is there someone from Gemstone that could help ? GARY ?

Here are the WDC&S issues that are listed :

Walt Disney's Comics and Stories: Hard Boiled Duck,Checkmate,Making a
Splash,Party of None,Egg Citing Eggs ( June 2003 - 0911903135 )

Walt Disney's Comics and Stories ( July 2003 - 0911903151)

Walt Disney's Comics ( August 2003 - 0911903178)

Walt Disney's Comic and Stories ( December 2003 - 0911903283)

Uncle Scrooge: Fools of the Trade,Big Break In,Madball Pitcher,World Wide
Witch ( July 2003 - 091190316X )

Uncle Scrooge ( June 2003 - 0911903143 )

Walt Disney's Uncle Scrooge ( August 2003 - 0911903186 )

Uncle Scrooge ( December 2003 - 0911903321 )

Thanks a million in advance.

Didier
Stefan Persson
Didier Ghez wrote:
> Here are the WDC&S issues that are listed :
>
> Walt Disney's Comics and Stories: Hard Boiled Duck,Checkmate,Making a
> Splash,Party of None,Egg Citing Eggs ( June 2003 - 0911903135 )

The stories are all in WDC 634.

> Walt Disney's Comics and Stories ( July 2003 - 0911903151)

The ISBN does not fit any issue in which the ISBN is printed. If the
ISBNs were assigned in chronological order, this would be WDC 635, which
was out in July (though the printed month on the cover is August).

> Walt Disney's Comics ( August 2003 - 0911903178)

The ISBN fits WDC 636. Printed month September, but it was actually out
in August.

> Walt Disney's Comic and Stories ( December 2003 - 0911903283)

This is probably WDC 639 or 640, which are not out yet.

> Uncle Scrooge: Fools of the Trade,Big Break In,Madball Pitcher,World Wide
> Witch ( July 2003 - 091190316X )

The stories fit U$ 320.

> Uncle Scrooge ( June 2003 - 0911903143 )

This is probably the first issue (319): out in June, printed month is July.

> Walt Disney's Uncle Scrooge ( August 2003 - 0911903186 )

The ISBN fits U$ 321. Printed month is September, was out in August.

> Uncle Scrooge ( December 2003 - 0911903321 )

This is probably a yet-to-be-published issue.

BTW, is there no big ISBN database listing all US ISBNs?

Stefan
Cord Wiljes
Amazon Germany is much better at listing the correct issue numbers of
current Gladstone issues than the French store, even better than the
U.S. parental site. Here is what you can do:

Go to the product page in your French store, example:
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/0911903135/

Replace the top-level domain '.fr' manually by '.de':
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/0911903135/
There it says: #634

Or you can go to www.amazon.de right away and search for the ISBN.

By further replacing the top level domains '.com':
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0911903135/
and '.co.uk':
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0911903135/

...I suppose that the German store gets its data from the UK (with issue
numbers) while the French gets it from the U.S. (without issue numbers).
So I would predict that if Gemstone would supply amazon.com with good
product data (they have a publisher interface format) the data would
reach the French site automatically.

Cord
Cord Wiljes
I wrote:

> Amazon Germany is much better at listing the correct issue numbers of
> current Gladstone issues than the French store

Make that "Gemstone issues". I am probably not the first one to make
this mistake, nur will I be the last one.

Cord
Didier Ghez
Thanks this helps a lot, Not sure about the ISBN database. I hope an other
member will answer that one.

Didier
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Persson" <spe at inducks.org>
To: "Didier Ghez" <dghez at hotmail.com>
Cc: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: Buying Gemstone on Amazon - Not easy

> Didier Ghez wrote:
> > Here are the WDC&S issues that are listed :
> >
> > Walt Disney's Comics and Stories: Hard Boiled Duck,Checkmate,Making a
> > Splash,Party of None,Egg Citing Eggs ( June 2003 - 0911903135 )
>
> The stories are all in WDC 634.
>
> > Walt Disney's Comics and Stories ( July 2003 - 0911903151)
>
> The ISBN does not fit any issue in which the ISBN is printed. If the
> ISBNs were assigned in chronological order, this would be WDC 635, which
> was out in July (though the printed month on the cover is August).
>
> > Walt Disney's Comics ( August 2003 - 0911903178)
>
> The ISBN fits WDC 636. Printed month September, but it was actually out
> in August.
>
> > Walt Disney's Comic and Stories ( December 2003 - 0911903283)
>
> This is probably WDC 639 or 640, which are not out yet.
>
> > Uncle Scrooge: Fools of the Trade,Big Break In,Madball Pitcher,World
Wide
> > Witch ( July 2003 - 091190316X )
>
> The stories fit U$ 320.
>
> > Uncle Scrooge ( June 2003 - 0911903143 )
>
> This is probably the first issue (319): out in June, printed month is
July.
>
> > Walt Disney's Uncle Scrooge ( August 2003 - 0911903186 )
>
> The ISBN fits U$ 321. Printed month is September, was out in August.
>
> > Uncle Scrooge ( December 2003 - 0911903321 )
>
> This is probably a yet-to-be-published issue.
>
> BTW, is there no big ISBN database listing all US ISBNs?
>
> Stefan
>
>
Olivier
Stefan:

>>> BTW, is there no big ISBN database listing all US ISBNs?

I have just searched for "ISBN" and posted the results over at
http://www.dcml-talk.org/read.php?f=1&i=205&t=205 .

Olivier
Stefan Persson
Olivier wrote:
> I have just searched for "ISBN" and posted the results over at
> http://www.dcml-talk.org/read.php?f=1&i=205&t=205 .

Why are you placing on-topic discussions on the off-topic forum?

Stefan
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