pipodeclown112 at zonnet.nl wrote:
> hey makkers, hoe gaat ie
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Stefan
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Stefan Persson
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Message 346 -
2003-11-21 at 13:41:04
Daniel J. Neyer
Look who's here
Message 347 -
2003-11-21 at 16:16:45
I agree--it's great to see Cesar Ferioli on the DCML. Cesar, I really
enjoyed your artwork in the two recent Mickey stories published in
Gemstone's WALT DISNEY'S COMICS AND STORIES--"Right Mouse for the Job"
and "The Great Birthday Robbery." Your art on Pete was great; this was
not the bland, stock-villain Pete of the Paul Murry era, but the
overweight, overbearing, and guffawing evil-doer right out of
Gottfredson's strips and the early cartoons.
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enjoyed your artwork in the two recent Mickey stories published in
Gemstone's WALT DISNEY'S COMICS AND STORIES--"Right Mouse for the Job"
and "The Great Birthday Robbery." Your art on Pete was great; this was
not the bland, stock-villain Pete of the Paul Murry era, but the
overweight, overbearing, and guffawing evil-doer right out of
Gottfredson's strips and the early cartoons.
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Message 348 -
2003-11-21 at 17:12:36
I suddenly understood that it was Ferioli we were talking about. I misread it
time after time, and thought Don Rosa's "Look who's here" was about Fecchi. Not
that I don't like HIS art - which is great - but I was having a hard time
understanding why there was so much fuzz around him.
But Ferioli? OH MY!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Ferioli one of the *great names* in the
history of Mickey? The artist who together with Byron Erickson brought Mickey
back to Gottfredson quality and made many readers love Mickey again? The number
one Mickey artist of the nineties and perhaps even the number one Mickey artist
since Paul Murry?
I can't say anything but WHEEEEEE!
Always great having living legends on the list!
Olaf the Blue
time after time, and thought Don Rosa's "Look who's here" was about Fecchi. Not
that I don't like HIS art - which is great - but I was having a hard time
understanding why there was so much fuzz around him.
But Ferioli? OH MY!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Ferioli one of the *great names* in the
history of Mickey? The artist who together with Byron Erickson brought Mickey
back to Gottfredson quality and made many readers love Mickey again? The number
one Mickey artist of the nineties and perhaps even the number one Mickey artist
since Paul Murry?
I can't say anything but WHEEEEEE!
Always great having living legends on the list!
Olaf the Blue
Olivier
Look who's here
Message 349 -
2003-11-21 at 18:10:43
>>>Your art on Pete was great; this was
>>> not the bland, stock-villain Pete of the Paul Murry era, but the
>>> overweight, overbearing, and guffawing evil-doer right out of
>>> Gottfredson's strips and the early cartoons.
Oh yes, I love that "old style" design of Pete.
I have yet to see a Ferioli Donald, though. Is there one in a recent
Gemstone issue?
Let's see if we can lure more artists into delurking :D ...
I like Ben Verhagen's art a lot too. His ducks have a nice roundness to
them; sort of "cute" sometimes; "cute" isn't exactly the right term, but I
can't think of another; I mean they are not angular, nor "cartoony round"
(? la Van Horn).
Olivier
>>> not the bland, stock-villain Pete of the Paul Murry era, but the
>>> overweight, overbearing, and guffawing evil-doer right out of
>>> Gottfredson's strips and the early cartoons.
Oh yes, I love that "old style" design of Pete.
I have yet to see a Ferioli Donald, though. Is there one in a recent
Gemstone issue?
Let's see if we can lure more artists into delurking :D ...
I like Ben Verhagen's art a lot too. His ducks have a nice roundness to
them; sort of "cute" sometimes; "cute" isn't exactly the right term, but I
can't think of another; I mean they are not angular, nor "cartoony round"
(? la Van Horn).
Olivier
Mark Wright
Public Domain questions
Message 350 -
2003-11-21 at 18:31:10
Earlier, I wondered if Pete might possibly be in public domain, as his
first appearance was three years before Mickey Mouse, and the law had
only just recently changed to extend Mickey Mouse's copyright
protection before it would have expired. If the law had not changed
before Pete's protection expired, he should be public domain by now.
Which got me wondering....
If "Steamboat Willie's" copyright protection had been allowed to
expire, why does that mean that Mickey Mouse himself would be public
domain? Is Bugs Bunny public domain? I am aware that a good number of
Warner Brothers cartoons featuring their "main characters" were allowed
to fall into the public domain a number of years ago (under a different
law than runs at present. WB would have to have renewed their license
for these cartoons, but failed to do so in the time alotted.). Yet no
one has suggested that the characters themselves are public domain.
Just that the cartoons involved could be distributed freely.
Obviously, I am missing some fine point here. Could anyone fill me in?
On another matter entirely,
There has been a good deal of discussion about Launchpad McQuack's role
as a "substitute Donald" in "DuckTales," and I've done some searching
on Google that indicates that this was done for Marketing reasons.
Does anyone have more detailed information? It does not seem as though
the folks who did "DuckTales" were forbidden to use Donald, as he did
indeed show up from time to time. He was just written out of the
action for the most part by putting him in the Navy.
Thanks for your help,
Mark Baker-Wright
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first appearance was three years before Mickey Mouse, and the law had
only just recently changed to extend Mickey Mouse's copyright
protection before it would have expired. If the law had not changed
before Pete's protection expired, he should be public domain by now.
Which got me wondering....
If "Steamboat Willie's" copyright protection had been allowed to
expire, why does that mean that Mickey Mouse himself would be public
domain? Is Bugs Bunny public domain? I am aware that a good number of
Warner Brothers cartoons featuring their "main characters" were allowed
to fall into the public domain a number of years ago (under a different
law than runs at present. WB would have to have renewed their license
for these cartoons, but failed to do so in the time alotted.). Yet no
one has suggested that the characters themselves are public domain.
Just that the cartoons involved could be distributed freely.
Obviously, I am missing some fine point here. Could anyone fill me in?
On another matter entirely,
There has been a good deal of discussion about Launchpad McQuack's role
as a "substitute Donald" in "DuckTales," and I've done some searching
on Google that indicates that this was done for Marketing reasons.
Does anyone have more detailed information? It does not seem as though
the folks who did "DuckTales" were forbidden to use Donald, as he did
indeed show up from time to time. He was just written out of the
action for the most part by putting him in the Navy.
Thanks for your help,
Mark Baker-Wright
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SOT Faculty Assistant: Fuller
Theological Seminary
G.B. Blackrock's Transformers Page:
http://home.earthlink.net/~gbblackrock/
Olaf Solstrand
Ferioli's Donald
Message 351 -
2003-11-21 at 19:47:21
Olivier asked:
"I have yet to see a Ferioli Donald, though. Is there one in a recent
Gemstone issue?"
According to INDUCKS, Ferioli has written 29 stories including Donald (not
including covers).
However, only one of those have been printed in the United States: F JM
89216, "Mickey agent secret", printed in "Goofy Adventures 5".
Personally, I doubt it will be long before more of his stories are printed by
Gemstone. For the last five-six months, Scandinavian readers have been
following the thrilling series about Mythos Island - a nine chapters long mouse-
and-duck adventure by Per Hedman, Pat & Carol McGreal and Ferioli (D/D 2002-
018, D 2002-112, D 2002-113, D 2002-120, D 2002-189, D 2002-197, D 2002-231,
one I don't have the code of here right now and D 2002-266). This story/stories
is/are in my opinion such a masterpiece that it _has to_ be printed by Gemstone
sooner or later.
Another Duck highlight from Ferioli must be D 2000-189, the story he wrote for
the Carl Barks Tribute series which came in 2001 (other stories in this series
were e.g. Blum's/Branca's "World Wide Witch", just printed in Uncle $crooge,
and Don Rosa's "The Beagle Boys vs. The Money Bin", will be printed in U$ in
December).
Olaf
"I have yet to see a Ferioli Donald, though. Is there one in a recent
Gemstone issue?"
According to INDUCKS, Ferioli has written 29 stories including Donald (not
including covers).
However, only one of those have been printed in the United States: F JM
89216, "Mickey agent secret", printed in "Goofy Adventures 5".
Personally, I doubt it will be long before more of his stories are printed by
Gemstone. For the last five-six months, Scandinavian readers have been
following the thrilling series about Mythos Island - a nine chapters long mouse-
and-duck adventure by Per Hedman, Pat & Carol McGreal and Ferioli (D/D 2002-
018, D 2002-112, D 2002-113, D 2002-120, D 2002-189, D 2002-197, D 2002-231,
one I don't have the code of here right now and D 2002-266). This story/stories
is/are in my opinion such a masterpiece that it _has to_ be printed by Gemstone
sooner or later.
Another Duck highlight from Ferioli must be D 2000-189, the story he wrote for
the Carl Barks Tribute series which came in 2001 (other stories in this series
were e.g. Blum's/Branca's "World Wide Witch", just printed in Uncle $crooge,
and Don Rosa's "The Beagle Boys vs. The Money Bin", will be printed in U$ in
December).
Olaf
Olaf Solstrand
Sands of time
Message 352 -
2003-11-21 at 20:12:59
Nils Smeby wrote:
> All this talk about Scrooge's grave - have
> you guys forgotten that Carl Barks gave him
> eternal life?
>
> In the story "Go Slowly, Sands of Time"
> written and illustrated (in 1980!) by CB
> himself it is revealed that the old duck is
> constantly rejuvinated by his daily money
> swims.
I just discovered that not only is there made a comic from this story - D 6856,
script Tom Anderson/art Vicar - but it's reprinted in Scandinavian Donald Duck
weeklies 48-2003!
As only the plot comes from Barks, there's no special notice about this
anywhere in or around the magazine (at least not in Norway). Normally the
frontpage is decorated with "Containing Barks classic" in huge letters - that's
not the case in this case. Anyhow - I think this is the best Duck comic I've
read in many years, so I thought I could might as well mention it here (in case
anyone here does not buy the weekly regularly). This story is, in my opinion,
really _great_.
Olaf
> All this talk about Scrooge's grave - have
> you guys forgotten that Carl Barks gave him
> eternal life?
>
> In the story "Go Slowly, Sands of Time"
> written and illustrated (in 1980!) by CB
> himself it is revealed that the old duck is
> constantly rejuvinated by his daily money
> swims.
I just discovered that not only is there made a comic from this story - D 6856,
script Tom Anderson/art Vicar - but it's reprinted in Scandinavian Donald Duck
weeklies 48-2003!
As only the plot comes from Barks, there's no special notice about this
anywhere in or around the magazine (at least not in Norway). Normally the
frontpage is decorated with "Containing Barks classic" in huge letters - that's
not the case in this case. Anyhow - I think this is the best Duck comic I've
read in many years, so I thought I could might as well mention it here (in case
anyone here does not buy the weekly regularly). This story is, in my opinion,
really _great_.
Olaf
KUR
Barks quote quiz /Obaut Gladstone Gander
Message 353 -
2003-11-21 at 22:39:50
> > It's Gladstone from "The Golden Nugget Boat" [US 35] Isn't he just
> > a guy that you love to hate?
>
> Indeed. And sometimes he can be so funny in his bragging attitude,
> that I just hate to love him! :-)
I personly like Gladston. I even once make him a Fan Page... Anny wey. There
are some storys like "Rival Beachcombers" (WDCS103) wen I just hate
Gladstone and he get me nerves wen he do some Terrible thing's to poor
Donald. But there are some Italian storys were he is actualy... Nice to
Donald and Donald is shown as the one whou try to make Gladstone's live
misrebel. Or in Duck Tales wen Gladstone is shown as a nice guy. Anny wey I
olsow like wen his luck do somthing encredeblly like thea time he "ask"
uncel Scrooge for money in "Gladstone's Terrible Secret" (WDCS140). It was
sow funny.
Yours
Maciek
> > a guy that you love to hate?
>
> Indeed. And sometimes he can be so funny in his bragging attitude,
> that I just hate to love him! :-)
I personly like Gladston. I even once make him a Fan Page... Anny wey. There
are some storys like "Rival Beachcombers" (WDCS103) wen I just hate
Gladstone and he get me nerves wen he do some Terrible thing's to poor
Donald. But there are some Italian storys were he is actualy... Nice to
Donald and Donald is shown as the one whou try to make Gladstone's live
misrebel. Or in Duck Tales wen Gladstone is shown as a nice guy. Anny wey I
olsow like wen his luck do somthing encredeblly like thea time he "ask"
uncel Scrooge for money in "Gladstone's Terrible Secret" (WDCS140). It was
sow funny.
Yours
Maciek
Hoy Murphy
Don Rosa at Mid-Ohio Con
Message 354 -
2003-11-22 at 15:55:45
I'm looking forward to seeing Don Rosa at Mid-Ohio Con in Columbus, Ohio
next Saturday. He's always fun to speak with.
Don, will you have any of your prints for sale this year, and will one of
them feature the Three Caballeros? That's been my favorite comic book story
of any I've read this year (and I read a lot!), so I'd like to be able to
get a print if you will have one available.
--your pal, Hoy Murphy
next Saturday. He's always fun to speak with.
Don, will you have any of your prints for sale this year, and will one of
them feature the Three Caballeros? That's been my favorite comic book story
of any I've read this year (and I read a lot!), so I'd like to be able to
get a print if you will have one available.
--your pal, Hoy Murphy
Eric Chun
Bear Mountain Enterprises
Message 355 -
2003-11-22 at 22:57:38
From: "John Nichols" <jnichols at kingston.net>
Subject: Bear Mountain Web Page
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:25:12 -0500
Dear Barks Fan,
In an effort to find old customers who might be searching for me on Google-
I've created a Bear Mountain web page- I'll be upgrading it, adding this and
that (Mostly that), but the address is:
http://bearmountainenterprises.4t.com/
I'd appreciate it if you could spread it around- put the word out that "If
you've been wondering whatever happened to John Nichols and Bear Mountain
Enterprises, here they are!"
The page has a Guest Book feature, but I'm still trying to figure out how to
make it work.
I hope you're all enjoying your Ducks as much as I am. Tonight I read WDC&S
144- the money spending story, and 150 - where Donald has to deliver
Gladstone's valentine to Daisy, through a blowing blizzard.
Anyway, please help spread the word that the web site is up and running.
Thanks,
John
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Subject: Bear Mountain Web Page
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:25:12 -0500
Dear Barks Fan,
In an effort to find old customers who might be searching for me on Google-
I've created a Bear Mountain web page- I'll be upgrading it, adding this and
that (Mostly that), but the address is:
http://bearmountainenterprises.4t.com/
I'd appreciate it if you could spread it around- put the word out that "If
you've been wondering whatever happened to John Nichols and Bear Mountain
Enterprises, here they are!"
The page has a Guest Book feature, but I'm still trying to figure out how to
make it work.
I hope you're all enjoying your Ducks as much as I am. Tonight I read WDC&S
144- the money spending story, and 150 - where Donald has to deliver
Gladstone's valentine to Daisy, through a blowing blizzard.
Anyway, please help spread the word that the web site is up and running.
Thanks,
John
_________________________________________________________________
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at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary
by service area.)
Klartekst
Barks Quiz
Message 356 -
2003-11-22 at 23:03:28
"All of a sudden I feel so IGNORANT I hurt!"
Which Barks story?
It's "Fearsome Flowers", WDC 214. The nephews ask Donald to
help with their homework. They need the names and colors of
five flowers. The only one Donald remebers is petunia, and
he isn't even sure about the color. But he DOES manage to
come up with five different kinds of vegetables plus potatos
and ragweed.
Now how about this one: "I see the eastbound bus from
Duckburg is pulling in." Which Barks story?
Nils Smeby
Which Barks story?
It's "Fearsome Flowers", WDC 214. The nephews ask Donald to
help with their homework. They need the names and colors of
five flowers. The only one Donald remebers is petunia, and
he isn't even sure about the color. But he DOES manage to
come up with five different kinds of vegetables plus potatos
and ragweed.
Now how about this one: "I see the eastbound bus from
Duckburg is pulling in." Which Barks story?
Nils Smeby
Olaf Solstrand
Fecchi's style
Message 357 -
2003-11-22 at 23:48:33
Quoting C?sar Ferioli <cferioli at feriolistudio.e.telefonica.net>:
> Finally I'll say, although that's not important in the final drawing :-),
> that Massimo Fecchi is one of the best persons I've ever met, and I'm not
> extremely generous on this kind of sentences.
I *have* to ask... :-)
On page three of D 2002-266, part nine of "Mythos Island" drawn by Ferioli, a
very cute little dwarf or gnome or something is standing in the lower left
corner of the first frame, watching Gyro and Doc Static working on the machine.
The first thing I thought of when seeing this little fellow, was "wow, he looks
like Fecchi!" :-)
Just a hunch, and it could be triggered by that I short time before I read this
story saw a self-portrait of Fecchi, but... is there *anything* in it? Is this
cute little fellow inspired by Fecchi?
Olaf
> Finally I'll say, although that's not important in the final drawing :-),
> that Massimo Fecchi is one of the best persons I've ever met, and I'm not
> extremely generous on this kind of sentences.
I *have* to ask... :-)
On page three of D 2002-266, part nine of "Mythos Island" drawn by Ferioli, a
very cute little dwarf or gnome or something is standing in the lower left
corner of the first frame, watching Gyro and Doc Static working on the machine.
The first thing I thought of when seeing this little fellow, was "wow, he looks
like Fecchi!" :-)
Just a hunch, and it could be triggered by that I short time before I read this
story saw a self-portrait of Fecchi, but... is there *anything* in it? Is this
cute little fellow inspired by Fecchi?
Olaf
Shad Z.
Public Domain questions
Message 358 -
2003-11-23 at 01:11:55
From: Mark Wright <nicodemuslegend at cp.fuller.edu>
> On another matter entirely,
> There has been a good deal of discussion about
> Launchpad McQuack's role as a "substitute Donald"
> in "DuckTales," and I've done some searching on
> Google that indicates that this was done for
> Marketing reasons. Does anyone have more detailed
> information? It does not seem as though the folks
> who did "DuckTales" were forbidden to use Donald,
> as he did indeed show up from time to time. He
> was just written out of the action for the most
> part by putting him in the Navy.
What I heard was that the Disney brass was worried
that if Donald starred in DuckTales, then licencees
who already had a license to make Donald Duck products
(toys, greeting cards, orange juice) could claim
that DuckTales should fall under their Dinald license,
and they could make DuckTales toys (or greeting cards
or orange juice) without paying extra.
On later shows (Quack Attack, House of Mouse),
Disney doesn't seem to be worried about this any more.
I assume they have standardized their licensing
contracts so the status of spin-offs is more
clear...
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> On another matter entirely,
> There has been a good deal of discussion about
> Launchpad McQuack's role as a "substitute Donald"
> in "DuckTales," and I've done some searching on
> Google that indicates that this was done for
> Marketing reasons. Does anyone have more detailed
> information? It does not seem as though the folks
> who did "DuckTales" were forbidden to use Donald,
> as he did indeed show up from time to time. He
> was just written out of the action for the most
> part by putting him in the Navy.
What I heard was that the Disney brass was worried
that if Donald starred in DuckTales, then licencees
who already had a license to make Donald Duck products
(toys, greeting cards, orange juice) could claim
that DuckTales should fall under their Dinald license,
and they could make DuckTales toys (or greeting cards
or orange juice) without paying extra.
On later shows (Quack Attack, House of Mouse),
Disney doesn't seem to be worried about this any more.
I assume they have standardized their licensing
contracts so the status of spin-offs is more
clear...
--
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Halsten Aastebol
Public Domain questions
Message 359 -
2003-11-23 at 01:24:49
At 16:11 22.11.2003 -0700, Shad Z. wrote:
>From: Mark Wright <nicodemuslegend at cp.fuller.edu>
>
> > On another matter entirely,
> > There has been a good deal of discussion about
> > Launchpad McQuack's role as a "substitute Donald"
> > in "DuckTales,"
This is the reason I've never been able to enjoy Ducktales.
Stories or cartoons without Donald, no problem. But substituting him with a
new character? No thanks.
Halsten
>From: Mark Wright <nicodemuslegend at cp.fuller.edu>
>
> > On another matter entirely,
> > There has been a good deal of discussion about
> > Launchpad McQuack's role as a "substitute Donald"
> > in "DuckTales,"
This is the reason I've never been able to enjoy Ducktales.
Stories or cartoons without Donald, no problem. But substituting him with a
new character? No thanks.
Halsten
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Barks Quiz
Message 360 -
2003-11-23 at 03:57:47
NILS SMEBY to me, 22-11-2003:
> Now how about this one: "I see the eastbound bus from Duckburg
> is pulling in." Which Barks story?
Sob! I've never been so humiliated in my life...
In other words: Help! I need a hint!
--- Dani?l
> Now how about this one: "I see the eastbound bus from Duckburg
> is pulling in." Which Barks story?
Sob! I've never been so humiliated in my life...
In other words: Help! I need a hint!
--- Dani?l