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Stefan Persson
Olaf Solstrand wrote:
> Hmm... Is "Mickey Mouse Annual" a comic book? If so, that was 1930 as well...
> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/uk/MMA++1

I think so, yes.

Stefan
Soeren Schridde
Thanks to those that mentioned Gemstone comics being available at
Amazon Europe!

Cord:

> Here in Germany to my knowledge:
(...)

Just a short correction:

In Germany, despite what the big music tries to inject into the
people's brains by wrong repetition:
Any "normal" private copy of music or film (not software) is legal. A
wise government ages ago didn't want to criminalize half or more of
the population... To compensate the artists for this, a flat fee is
paid on all devices being able to record (even answer machines) and
the income is distributed by an organisation ("GEMA"), which takes
rather odd measures in that, but that's another topic...

haven't heard of the industry saying the GEMA should charge less as
most DVDs and more and more CDs are copy-protected, though....
(applying their own argumentationonly where it fits their financial
interests...)

translating EU law, it just shot time ago became illegal to
circumvene "effective" copy protection or to use sources that are
obviously illegal - the Kazaas etc. are (only) in the discussion.
(No "great invention" like a software that can be surpassed by
disabling windows autostart like in US would suffice, and of course
not allow those creators to sue those that post that "secret" in the
net ...)

Besides that, ONLY PROFESSIONALS who want to make money are punished
for circumvening...

No difference between digital and analog copying in Germany...

Anhow, I'm happy that usual comics are just too cheap that it would
be worth xeroxing most of them...

But to get it finally on topic:
With music, I enjoy my whole collection as MP3 (self-encoded!) on my
Harddisk and using the Winamp-shuffle (playlist with ALL my mp3s).

Can you imagine using a story-viewer on the PC that puts the stories
on screen by chance / shuffled? One might find some great stories
lurking in the dephts of one's collection... :-))

Soeren
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Olivier
Hi everyone!

Nils:

>>> Apparently, Mickey was "created" November 18, 1928.
>>> Has this been discussed on the list? I made a brief
>>> check but couldn't see this topic raised.

It was mentioned briefly about a month ago.

>>> When was Mickey's first appearance in a comic book?

First animated short produced (thus, actual birth of Mickey, sketches
excluded): "Plane Crazy"-- first (private) screening on May 15, 1928
First animation short released: Steamboat Willie (November 18, 1928)
First daily comis strip: January 13, 1930
First Sunday comic strip: January; 1932

There were several Mickey Mouse books in the early '30s.
Portions of the "Mickey Mouse Book" (published by Bibo and Lang in 1930)
were reprinted in WDC&S 604 (Aug '96) (Bruce Hamilton's "The Year That Was
1930: Mouse Number Thirteen") :
"Mickey Mouse Book was the first licensed publication using Disney
characters."
There were four printings, with variations.
Not a comic book yet, but it did feature in its second printing Mickey Mouse
strips-- from the reprint, the strip of April 15, 1930, drawn by Win Smith.
Another strip was featured on the back cover-- that of April 17.

Walt Disney's Comics and Stories # 601 (Feb '96) featured "The One and Only
Genuine Original Number One", by Bruce Hamilton (in the "The Year That Was"
series-- 1933) :
"Mickey Mouse Magazine, printed with a 2-color cover and black and white
interiors, was thus born in the third week of January, 1933".
( The feature reprints the whole 16p (covers included) magazine )

WDC&S 602 (April '96) considers "The Year That Was 1940", asking "Will the
Real #1 Please Stand Up?"
Bruce Hamilton explains that the last issue of Mickey Mouse Magazine (Vol 5
# 12, 1940) "had been turned into a comic book before the next month's
release, wchich was Volume 1, Number 1 of Walt Disney's Comics and
Stories".

Mickey's first appearance in a "real" comic book may thus considered to have
been in MMM Vol 5 #12, which reprinted the "Robinson Crusoe" adventure
(well, not all of it; two pages worth of strips, and the story was wrapped
up in WDC&S 1).

However, these being reprints from newspaper strips, you may now want to
search for the first Mickey Mouse story published in a comic book and
written specifically for a comic book. Sorry, I don't know.

I have prepared a little something, but my host's server sin't working ! ! !
It has been behaving oddly these past few days, and tonight it isn't
working! I have only part of my 75th Anniversary Special Feature uploaded
and can't connect to the server! :(

I hope I can upload it tomorrow.

Wishing you better luck with the Web,

Olivier
Shad Z.
From: Nils Lid Hjort <nils at math.uio.no>
>
> Apparently, Mickey was "created" November 18, 1928.
> Has this been discussed on the list? I made a brief
> check but couldn't see this topic raised. There's
> something on this in "breakfast television" tomorrow
> morning (main Norwegian channel), and someone I know
> is already quite nervous about the prospect of being
> interviewed there. "The influence of Mickey Mouse on
> modern society and civilisation has been (cough cough)
> tremendous ...".

Here's a newspaper article about it:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/local/sfl-1117mickeymouse,0,3592155.story?coll=sfla-business-front

And here's an article about Mickey's past birthdays, and
why Disney (or the theme park division, at least) stopped
throwing birthday parties for Mickey:
http://www.jimhillmedia.com/articles/guest/wsampson.11172003.1.htm

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Olivier
Hello everyone!

The server works now, so I was able to update Mice and Ducks to include my
MM Annviersary feature:
http://ob7.free.fr/mice_and_ducks/mndframe.html
As usual, please click on paperboy Donald to go to "The Daily War-Drum" and
find the link.

I haven't been able to complete/correct/enhance my collection of Disney
characters smileys in time for this Anniversary; since I do have a few
Mickey-related smileys ready, I will try and find time to upload them
nonetheless (which implies preparing pages and directories); you can see one
of them in "The Daily War-Drum".

I am sorry I could not do more, and will try to do better as soon as
possible.

All the best,

Olivier
Nils Lid Hjort
"Good morning, professor Lars (!) Lid Hjort from
the Department of Mathematics. And now he is 75."

We heard the Wilhelm Tell overture in colour from 1935.
I discussed the jubilant's momentous impact on modern
civilisation etc etc, also pointing out that his two public
lives, on screen and between comic book covers, are really
somewhat disparate, that he for most Scandinavians
at least doesn't quite touch us as deeply as Donald
and Scrooge, commented on his mcgyverian abilities
and youthful spirit and abilities to survive the most
spectacular life-threatening obstacles, briefly
described his changing style of clothing, and lightly
touched upon his slow progress in the love department.
When the interviewer Anne Grosvold said that "most of
us actually change somewhat over the years ...", I
responded "speak for yourself, Madam".

I had brought with me a couple of MM comics from the
1940ies, plus the 60 years anniversary book "MM in Color"
from 1988, and my beat-up copy of MM and the Phantom
Blot from 1939. These were briefly pointed to & waved at.

The whole thing is supposedly re-sent today at 17:15
(main state channel, NRK 1). Among the more visually
interesting moments might be when professor
Lars (?) Lid Hjort spends many seconds frantically
searching for the word "entertainment industry"
(and failing).

Apparently there is a new DVD out commemorating Mickey's
75 years. We should respectfully remember, by the way,
that today is not only Mickey's 75th birthday, but also
Minnie's, even though she might be said to lack Mickey's
literary appeal ... Are there yet other characters on
"Steamboat Willie"? (I have actually never seen it.)

Is Egmont doing anything at all with MM 75? Is this
noted on the www.donald.no or sister webpages, or in
the weekly magazines?

Lars (?) Lid Hjort
Ola Martinsson
Is there somewhere a picture on the web on this snowglobe ?

Ola in dark cloudy Stockholm

> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:05:37 -0500
> From: "Don Rosa" <donrosa at iglou.com>
> Subject: that $crooge snowglobe
> To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Message-ID: <NHBBKFHAOLHDBCINGIHFMEOODJAA.donrosa at iglou.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Since people were guessing as to whether the theme played on this new
> $crooge snowglobe was the Donald Duck theme (as the ad states) or the
> "Ducktales" theme (as one would expect), I'm happy to report that it's the
> 1930's DD theme (even though that's inappropriate in its own way). In fact,
> this is one of the most "Barksian" $crooge figurines in my collection of
> many hundreds. It's gorgeous. It features $crooge frolicking in a pile of
> coins on his desk, and the desk and surrounding floor is beautifully adorned
> with many details of coins, bills, money bags, ingots, not to mention
> woodwork details and carved "$"s and even an old ticker tape machine below a
> clear bell-jar. There's even such extreme detailing as an old style
> (naturally) phone sitting off its cradle so no calls will disturb $crooge as
> he has his fun. It's straight out of the 1950's and so cluttered with detail
> that it looks like something *I* would draw. And I'm happy to see more items
> made in the cheaper resin style which looks much nicer than the more
> expensive ceramic method or any other method. The only drawback is that it
> IS a snowglobe to help sales in the "coll-eech-tibles" market of American
> buyers who want Disney snowglobes even if they don't recognize or understand
> the character featured. ("Oh, isn't that adorable -- must be a character
> coming up in LION KING IV.") And even though I thought "Ducktales" was an
> excellent TV show, since I thought of it as a counterfeit $crooge I did
> *not* like its influence on the few $crooge items being made, and I'm happy
> to see that it's far enough in the past now that its theme tune was not
> automatically used on this gorgeous new figurine.
> I don't know why I'm waxing eloquent with a merchandise review -- I guess
> it's just that I am a $crooge collector, and yet there have been *very few*
> really good Barks-style $crooge items ever made for the general market since
> the first one in 1956 (a tiny Hagen-Renaker ceramic), and this latest one is
> one of the best.
>
>
Kai Saarto
Nils Lid Hjort wrote:

>Is Egmont doing anything at all with MM 75? Is this
>noted on the www.donald.no or sister webpages, or in
>the weekly magazines?
>
>
At least Finnish weekly got an editorial about Mickey. 3/4 of the
stories were about him, also. Lead (birthday) story was written by Byron
Erickson and drawn by the excellent Ferioli.

Congratulations for your TV-appearance, "Lars"!

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- Kai Saarto
http://www.go.to/donrosa
Kai Saarto
Ola Martinsson wrote:

> Is there somewhere a picture on the web on this snowglobe ?
>
> Ola in dark cloudy Stockholm

Yup. Dean posted it a while ago:

http://disney.store.go.com/DSSectionPage.process?Merchant_Id=2&Section_id=14418&Product_Id=150050&Searchstr=scrooge&Page=1

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- Kai Saarto
http://www.go.to/donrosa
Daniel Van Eijmeren
MACIEK KUR to MATTHEW WILLIAMS, 11-11-2003:

>> Yes, this is somewhat strange, but I like it! The really interesting
>> thing to do would be to watch the episode again and see which side of
>> the church they are sitting on!

> Well actualy the Weding was not in church but in bank.
> It wasen't shown wen Magica is sitnik. She only was seen wen she was
> saininh some sort of "Guest book" in the bank entry.
> Glomgold was siting at the same said as Gladstone and Doofus. Whow
> ever Huey Duey and Luey were siting on difrent said thean they had.

Which DuckTales episode are you talking about? I'm curious.

The title has been mentioned before, but the discussion has been going on
for some time without a reminder of the title/code, so I lost track.

--- Dani?l

"Donald! You're going to be sorrreeeeee!"
Which Barks story? :-)

Hint #1: words are spoken by Fate itself
Hint #2: adventure story
Olivier
Nils:

I would liked to see that TV program.

>>> Apparently there is a new DVD out commemorating Mickey's
>>> 75 years.

Is there?

>>>We should respectfully remember, by the way,
>>> that today is not only Mickey's 75th birthday, but also
>>> Minnie's, even though she might be said to lack Mickey's
>>> literary appeal ...

Indeed.

>>>Are there yet other characters on
>>> "Steamboat Willie"? (I have actually never seen it.)

The third main character is the captain-- a big black cat; in a sense, a
proto-Pete.

>>> Is Egmont doing anything at all with MM 75? Is this
>>> noted on the www.donald.no or sister webpages, or in
>>> the weekly magazines?

Or Gemstone, for that matter?

Olivier
Olivier
A link to CNN's article-- I haven't read it yet:
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/11/18/mickeyat75.ap/index.html

Olivier
Lars Jensen
Olivier wrote:

>>>> Apparently there is a new DVD out commemorating Mickey's
>>>> 75 years.
>
> Is there?

Maybe they're thinking of "Mickey Mouse in Living Colour" vol. 1?

>>>>Are there yet other characters on
>>>> "Steamboat Willie"? (I have actually never seen it.)
>
> The third main character is the captain-- a big black cat; in a sense,
> a proto-Pete.

Pete debuted in 1925, three years before the Mouse.

Happy anniversary of your first appearance, Mickey.

Lars
Mads Jensen
Hi

I borrowed some documentary at the library, called "The History of
Animation" where Walt spoke about the history of the animation.

Afterwards it showed the "Steamboat Willie" cartoon, and surprisingly to
me it said that it was first shown in October, and not in November ?

What defines Mickey's first appearence ? "Plane Crazy" (shown privately)
shown in May 1928, or "Steamboat Willie" (which was Mickey's first
public appearence) shown in October/November 1928 ?

Best wishes,
Mads
Katie Sullivan
The DuckTales episode with the wedding scene in it that we've
been discussing is "Til Nephews Do Us Part." I have some
screengrabs and info up on my site:
http://www.sullivanet.com/duckburg/loves/milly.htm

Katie Sullivan
http://www.sullivanet.com/

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