Quote from user: clinton cootAlso it doesn't seem he was ever instructed to make reference to Donald's voice in the comics (as I said, "Quackyface" seems to be referring to his appearance).
I agree with you that Barks didn't refer to Donald having his animated voice much in the comics (in fact, The Golden Fleecing reference we're discussing is the only potential example I can think of) but "Quackyface" doesn't seem to me like a remark on appearance. If I recall correctly (again, don't have the comic in front of me) the Larkies made this comment from the Argo as Donald was shouting at them from the pier. Given the context and the insult itself, it would make more sense for them to have been referring to the way he sounded than the way he looked. I personally never imagine comic-Donald speaking with cartoon-Donald's voice, but to me, "Quackyface" suggests that, at least while writing that story, Barks thought maybe he does.
Coming back to IDW, will they be reprinting any Barks, Rosa or Gottfredson at all? We really don't need them to, considering the high-quality, affordable collector's editions Fantagraphics is putting out, but it just seems strange to have an American publisher not reprinting those works. I never thought I'd say this, but I really don't want to see reprints from those creators, since we're getting them all from Fantagraphics, and far prefer to see European stories previously unpublished in the US (and maybe new stories from American creators down the line?). However, it seem to me that kids, who might not be the target audience for Fantagraphics' books, would be missing out. Then again, are comic books in the US even meant for kids these days (that's probably another discussion)?.
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Topic: Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
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Baar Baar Jinx
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 121 -
2015-02-09 at 13:48:34
Angilasman
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 122 -
2015-02-09 at 15:21:36
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxComing back to IDW, will they be reprinting any Barks, Rosa or Gottfredson at all? We really don't need them to, considering the high-quality, affordable collector's editions Fantagraphics is putting out, but it just seems strange to have an American publisher not reprinting those works. I never thought I'd say this, but I really don't want to see reprints from those creators, since we're getting them all from Fantagraphics, and far prefer to see European stories previously unpublished in the US (and maybe new stories from American creators down the line?). However, it seem to me that kids, who might not be the target audience for Fantagraphics' books, would be missing out. Then again, are comic books in the US even meant for kids these days (that's probably another discussion)?.
I was just thinking the same thing! They're more available than ever, making their appearance in monthly comics redundant. The only reason I can think of is if IDW reprinted them in with some sort of special feature or gimmick. An 'Artist Edition' issue shot from the original art? 3D? Some kind of special coloring (watercolor)?
Fanta has also begun releasing digest-sized Barks reprints target at kids. So there's that. I hope they do some for Rosa and Gottfredson. Also, it'd be nice to see some ads for Fanta's volumes in IDW's comics - not the first time I've seen ads from one company in another's comics when they shared a licensed franchise.
I was just thinking the same thing! They're more available than ever, making their appearance in monthly comics redundant. The only reason I can think of is if IDW reprinted them in with some sort of special feature or gimmick. An 'Artist Edition' issue shot from the original art? 3D? Some kind of special coloring (watercolor)?
Fanta has also begun releasing digest-sized Barks reprints target at kids. So there's that. I hope they do some for Rosa and Gottfredson. Also, it'd be nice to see some ads for Fanta's volumes in IDW's comics - not the first time I've seen ads from one company in another's comics when they shared a licensed franchise.
Clinton Coot
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 123 -
2015-02-09 at 18:46:31
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxI agree with you that Barks didn't refer to Donald having his animated voice much in the comics (in fact, The Golden Fleecing reference we're discussing is the only potential example I can think of) but "Quackyface" doesn't seem to me like a remark on appearance. If I recall correctly (again, don't have the comic in front of me) the Larkies made this comment from the Argo as Donald was shouting at them from the pier. Given the context and the insult itself, it would make more sense for them to have been referring to the way he sounded than the way he looked. I personally never imagine comic-Donald speaking with cartoon-Donald's voice, but to me, "Quackyface" suggests that, at least while writing that story, Barks thought maybe he does.
Maybe it's because I am influenced by the term used in the Italian translation (the inexistent word "facciadipapero", from "faccia di papero" which means "duck face/ducklike face/face of a duck"), but I have always taught it referred to his appearance and not his voice, as the last time Donald spoke was two panels earlier. Aside from this very dubious example, I can't recall any Barks story in which Donald is implied to have a duck voice.
Maybe it's because I am influenced by the term used in the Italian translation (the inexistent word "facciadipapero", from "faccia di papero" which means "duck face/ducklike face/face of a duck"), but I have always taught it referred to his appearance and not his voice, as the last time Donald spoke was two panels earlier. Aside from this very dubious example, I can't recall any Barks story in which Donald is implied to have a duck voice.
Baar Baar Jinx
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 124 -
2015-02-09 at 19:33:08
Quote from user: clinton cootMaybe it's because I am influenced by the term used in the Italian translation (the inexistent word "facciadipapero", from "faccia di papero" which means "duck face/ducklike face/face of a duck"), but I have always taught it referred to his appearance and not his voice, as the last time Donald spoke was two panels earlier. Aside from this very dubious example, I can't recall any Barks story in which Donald is implied to have a duck voice.
"Quack" refers to the noise a duck makes, so reading the original version, I got the impression it refers to his voice. But yes, it seems to be the sole example in Barks' work where one could argue that there is a possible reference to Donald's voice. Make of it what you will. But given the apparent absence of other evidence in Barks' stories that Donald has a duck-like voice, and in view of how obscure and fleeting the remark is, I find it hard to believe it was inserted at the editors' behest. From what I've read, editors tended to tinker with Barks' work to make his stories shorter to accomodate advertisements, or to remedy scenes or plotpoints that they felt were politically incorrect or too risque for children's sensibilities. I don't get the sense that they cared much about enforcing uniformity between the comic and cartoon worlds. As pointed out earlier in this thread, Barks seems to have thankfully been given a lot of freedom, and he created a universe very much his own as a result.
"Quack" refers to the noise a duck makes, so reading the original version, I got the impression it refers to his voice. But yes, it seems to be the sole example in Barks' work where one could argue that there is a possible reference to Donald's voice. Make of it what you will. But given the apparent absence of other evidence in Barks' stories that Donald has a duck-like voice, and in view of how obscure and fleeting the remark is, I find it hard to believe it was inserted at the editors' behest. From what I've read, editors tended to tinker with Barks' work to make his stories shorter to accomodate advertisements, or to remedy scenes or plotpoints that they felt were politically incorrect or too risque for children's sensibilities. I don't get the sense that they cared much about enforcing uniformity between the comic and cartoon worlds. As pointed out earlier in this thread, Barks seems to have thankfully been given a lot of freedom, and he created a universe very much his own as a result.
FAa
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 125 -
2015-02-09 at 19:41:27
Moderators: Please split this topic in two and delete/move all voice discussion.
Clinton Coot
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 126 -
2015-02-10 at 16:57:10
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: clinton cootMaybe it's because I am influenced by the term used in the Italian translation (the inexistent word "facciadipapero", from "faccia di papero" which means "duck face/ducklike face/face of a duck"), but I have always taught it referred to his appearance and not his voice, as the last time Donald spoke was two panels earlier. Aside from this very dubious example, I can't recall any Barks story in which Donald is implied to have a duck voice.
"Quack" refers to the noise a duck makes, so reading the original version, I got the impression it refers to his voice. But yes, it seems to be the sole example in Barks' work where one could argue that there is a possible reference to Donald's voice. Make of it what you will. But given the apparent absence of other evidence in Barks' stories that Donald has a duck-like voice, and in view of how obscure and fleeting the remark is, I find it hard to believe it was inserted at the editors' behest. From what I've read, editors tended to tinker with Barks' work to make his stories shorter to accomodate advertisements, or to remedy scenes or plotpoints that they felt were politically incorrect or too risque for children's sensibilities. I don't get the sense that they cared much about enforcing uniformity between the comic and cartoon worlds. As pointed out earlier in this thread, Barks seems to have thankfully been given a lot of freedom, and he created a universe very much his own as a result.
Yes, "quack" refers to the duck sound, but if it is followed by "face" then the meaning would be "someone whose face looks like one of those beings that make quack sounds". At least, that's my opinion. I see however that we both agree that aside from this (dubious) example there aren't others.
And it's a good thing he was often given creative liberty... exept when he wasn't, like the stupid censorship of "Back to the Klondike" and few other instances.
Quote from user: FAaModerators: Please split this topic in two and delete/move all voice discussion.
Indeed, I wonder why this hasn't been done yet. I could create a new topic myself, but I feel it would be useless as only moderators can move old messages.
"Quack" refers to the noise a duck makes, so reading the original version, I got the impression it refers to his voice. But yes, it seems to be the sole example in Barks' work where one could argue that there is a possible reference to Donald's voice. Make of it what you will. But given the apparent absence of other evidence in Barks' stories that Donald has a duck-like voice, and in view of how obscure and fleeting the remark is, I find it hard to believe it was inserted at the editors' behest. From what I've read, editors tended to tinker with Barks' work to make his stories shorter to accomodate advertisements, or to remedy scenes or plotpoints that they felt were politically incorrect or too risque for children's sensibilities. I don't get the sense that they cared much about enforcing uniformity between the comic and cartoon worlds. As pointed out earlier in this thread, Barks seems to have thankfully been given a lot of freedom, and he created a universe very much his own as a result.
Yes, "quack" refers to the duck sound, but if it is followed by "face" then the meaning would be "someone whose face looks like one of those beings that make quack sounds". At least, that's my opinion. I see however that we both agree that aside from this (dubious) example there aren't others.
And it's a good thing he was often given creative liberty... exept when he wasn't, like the stupid censorship of "Back to the Klondike" and few other instances.
Quote from user: FAaModerators: Please split this topic in two and delete/move all voice discussion.
Indeed, I wonder why this hasn't been done yet. I could create a new topic myself, but I feel it would be useless as only moderators can move old messages.
MustangRockstar
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 127 -
2015-02-11 at 00:31:44
Getting back to the comic for a second - I agree with previous comments hoping to see more work we haven't seen before. I love Barks and Rosa, but I have other avenues to read them and I've read them countless times. I want to read things I haven't read before, even if it is "older" material.
Looking back, I really liked what Gemstone did. I felt it was a healthy balance.
Looking back, I really liked what Gemstone did. I felt it was a healthy balance.
Kcduck
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 128 -
2015-02-11 at 05:40:07
Gemstone did a wonderful job, the only complaint I heard from local comic stores was the price point on the books.
Back to something I brought up some time ago, I wonder how many of you will be trying to purchase the 1/25 Adventureland cover of the book or are you even interested in purchasing the variants for the series. Boom had variants as well, which I am certain are quite hard to find at this point in the collectors market. I have mixed feelings about "made to order" collectibles. I like having different covers but many local comic stores in my area are unwilling to purchase the 25 copies just to get one variant cover. Just wondered what other collectors were thinking in regards to chasing the variants, etc. Will you be trying to get every cover or is just one enough? There is someone online doing a pre-order for the Adventureland cover at $65.00 US ...
Back to something I brought up some time ago, I wonder how many of you will be trying to purchase the 1/25 Adventureland cover of the book or are you even interested in purchasing the variants for the series. Boom had variants as well, which I am certain are quite hard to find at this point in the collectors market. I have mixed feelings about "made to order" collectibles. I like having different covers but many local comic stores in my area are unwilling to purchase the 25 copies just to get one variant cover. Just wondered what other collectors were thinking in regards to chasing the variants, etc. Will you be trying to get every cover or is just one enough? There is someone online doing a pre-order for the Adventureland cover at $65.00 US ...
Thomps2525
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 129 -
2015-02-11 at 20:39:56
TV Guide, Entertainment Weekly and several comic-book publishers (including DC, Marvel, IDW, Boom Kids and Archie) frequently put out issues with several different covers. In 2014, Empire magazine released an issue devoted to the X-Men and there were 25 different covers! http://www.empireonline.com/xmen/
To answer kcduck's question: With any comic I buy, one is enough. I don't care about the variants. But wouldn't it be nice if, when a comic does have several variant covers, the publisher could offer a collection of just the covers for a small fee? Few of us could afford buying all the variants but we could easily spare a few dollars to buy a set of all the covers. Think about it, publishers!
To answer kcduck's question: With any comic I buy, one is enough. I don't care about the variants. But wouldn't it be nice if, when a comic does have several variant covers, the publisher could offer a collection of just the covers for a small fee? Few of us could afford buying all the variants but we could easily spare a few dollars to buy a set of all the covers. Think about it, publishers!
Marrk
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 130 -
2015-02-18 at 06:16:38
IDW's May solicitations just went up!
http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/916?stockItemID=MAR150347
DONALD DUCK #1
(W/A) Romano Scarpa & Various (CA) Jan-Roman Pikula
In "Shellfish Motives," Donald wants to be a crimebustin' ace reporter-but can he save Uncle Scrooge's top-secret scientist from the mob?
http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/916?stockItemID=MAR150351
UNCLE SCROOGE #2
(W) Jonathan Gray, Jan Kruse (A) Bas Heymans (CA) Jonathan Gray
"Shiver Me Timbers!" Hunting a haunted Caribbean treasure, Scrooge is guided by three ghost pirates' disembodied hand, foot, and eyeball!
http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/916?stockItemID=MAR150347
DONALD DUCK #1
(W/A) Romano Scarpa & Various (CA) Jan-Roman Pikula
In "Shellfish Motives," Donald wants to be a crimebustin' ace reporter-but can he save Uncle Scrooge's top-secret scientist from the mob?
http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/916?stockItemID=MAR150351
UNCLE SCROOGE #2
(W) Jonathan Gray, Jan Kruse (A) Bas Heymans (CA) Jonathan Gray
"Shiver Me Timbers!" Hunting a haunted Caribbean treasure, Scrooge is guided by three ghost pirates' disembodied hand, foot, and eyeball!
Greek_User
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 131 -
2015-02-18 at 11:30:19
Quote from user: marrkhttp://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/916?stockItemID=MAR150347
DONALD DUCK #1
(W/A) Romano Scarpa & Various (CA) Jan-Roman Pikula
In "Shellfish Motives," Donald wants to be a crimebustin' ace reporter-but can he save Uncle Scrooge's top-secret scientist from the mob?
Wow! That's the very first story Romano Scarpa drew *and* wrote. Really good choice!
Quote from user: marrkhttp://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/916?stockItemID=MAR150351
UNCLE SCROOGE #2
(W) Jonathan Gray, Jan Kruse (A) Bas Heymans (CA) Jonathan Gray
"Shiver Me Timbers!" Hunting a haunted Caribbean treasure, Scrooge is guided by three ghost pirates' disembodied hand, foot, and eyeball!
That's a 2003 pirate story, by Bas Heymans and Jan Kruse. The cover seems unpublished before, created specifically for this issue.
DONALD DUCK #1
(W/A) Romano Scarpa & Various (CA) Jan-Roman Pikula
In "Shellfish Motives," Donald wants to be a crimebustin' ace reporter-but can he save Uncle Scrooge's top-secret scientist from the mob?
Wow! That's the very first story Romano Scarpa drew *and* wrote. Really good choice!
Quote from user: marrkhttp://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/916?stockItemID=MAR150351
UNCLE SCROOGE #2
(W) Jonathan Gray, Jan Kruse (A) Bas Heymans (CA) Jonathan Gray
"Shiver Me Timbers!" Hunting a haunted Caribbean treasure, Scrooge is guided by three ghost pirates' disembodied hand, foot, and eyeball!
That's a 2003 pirate story, by Bas Heymans and Jan Kruse. The cover seems unpublished before, created specifically for this issue.
Angilasman
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 132 -
2015-02-18 at 13:12:13
Nice! Check out the really nifty variant cover to Donald #1:
http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/916?stockItemID=MAR150348
http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/916?stockItemID=MAR150348
Fritz Baugh
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 133 -
2015-02-18 at 16:51:58
Mr. Gerstein, Mr. Gray, SOMEBODY let IDW know before it gets to press:
It's Donald Duck #368, not #268. That one's already been done
It's Donald Duck #368, not #268. That one's already been done
Scroogerello
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 134 -
2015-02-18 at 17:38:58
Quote from user: Greek_UserQuote from user: marrkhttp://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/916?stockItemID=MAR150347
DONALD DUCK #1
(W/A) Romano Scarpa & Various (CA) Jan-Roman Pikula
In "Shellfish Motives," Donald wants to be a crimebustin' ace reporter-but can he save Uncle Scrooge's top-secret scientist from the mob?
Wow! That's the very first story Romano Scarpa drew *and* wrote. Really good choice!
With this comic included, this first Donald Duck issue will also mark the very first appearance of uncle Gideon (Scrooge McDuck's brother) in American Disney media! Awesome!
DONALD DUCK #1
(W/A) Romano Scarpa & Various (CA) Jan-Roman Pikula
In "Shellfish Motives," Donald wants to be a crimebustin' ace reporter-but can he save Uncle Scrooge's top-secret scientist from the mob?
Wow! That's the very first story Romano Scarpa drew *and* wrote. Really good choice!
With this comic included, this first Donald Duck issue will also mark the very first appearance of uncle Gideon (Scrooge McDuck's brother) in American Disney media! Awesome!
DarkAsh
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 135 -
2015-02-18 at 17:39:13
Quote from user: Fritz BaughMr. Gerstein, Mr. Gray, SOMEBODY let IDW know before it gets to press:
It's Donald Duck #368, not #268. That one's already been done
Good catch, Fritz. I wonder how they could have overlooked something like that.
It's Donald Duck #368, not #268. That one's already been done
Good catch, Fritz. I wonder how they could have overlooked something like that.