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Topic: Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
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GeoX
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 61 -
2015-02-01 at 00:12:44
I've long maintained that the fundamental difference between the original cartoon character of Donald and the Barks version is that in the latter Donald obviously doesn't talk in the same voice, which is of course indicative to him not really being the same character. I think that has to be part of the reason they eliminated Donald as a a regular character in Ducktales: they'd be trying to use a Barks-ish version of the character, but they'd feel compelled to use the original voice, resulting in a half-baked character that's neither one thing nor t'other.
MustangRockstar
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 62 -
2015-02-01 at 00:30:58
I think some of the unique explanations behind these stories are almost as interesting as the stories themselves.
Some of them are a bit too far out there for my taste. But they are interesting nonetheless.
Some of them are a bit too far out there for my taste. But they are interesting nonetheless.
Kcduck
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 63 -
2015-02-01 at 03:46:13
I wonder how many forum members are going to chase down all four covers for this issue? There is a blank cover, subscription variant, regular cover and retailer incentive sketch cover. From what I have seen the hardest to obtain variant, the sketch cover,will be allocated on a 1 to 25 ratio. LCS would have to purchase 25 copies to obtain the sketch cover. I know that several of us are Uncle Scrooge completists so I wonder if this will result in some ending their collections, with the Boom series. Boom also had variants but I don't believe they were up to the 1/25 ratio. I think the rarest of the Boom books was the Baltimore Comic-Con cover, which was limited to only 500 copies. Any thoughts?
Angilasman
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 64 -
2015-02-01 at 04:17:32
He's not mentioned in the initial list of creators who's work we'll be seeing, but I really hope we'll see some Marco Rota material. He's my favorite duck artist behind Barks and Rosa.
... and I also hope we'll see some original stories produced domestically. I know the budget might prohibit it every issue, but it seems to me with webcomics and the like we now have a robust number of cartoonists who's styles fit perfectly with funny animal comics.
... and I also hope we'll see some original stories produced domestically. I know the budget might prohibit it every issue, but it seems to me with webcomics and the like we now have a robust number of cartoonists who's styles fit perfectly with funny animal comics.
The Rhyming Man
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 65 -
2015-02-01 at 07:38:11
Quote from user: sirtaoDo anybody know how it was dealt with in the Pikappa videogame?
In Pk videogame Donald talks with his Duck voice, but he disguise his voice when he become Pk.
In Pk videogame Donald talks with his Duck voice, but he disguise his voice when he become Pk.
Clinton Coot
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 66 -
2015-02-01 at 10:41:29
Quote from user: GeoXI've long maintained that the fundamental difference between the original cartoon character of Donald and the Barks version is that in the latter Donald obviously doesn't talk in the same voice, which is of course indicative to him not really being the same character.
Three cheers for this. I totally agree with you.
Quote from user: GeoXI think that has to be part of the reason they eliminated Donald as a a regular character in Ducktales: they'd be trying to use a Barks-ish version of the character, but they'd feel compelled to use the original voice, resulting in a half-baked character that's neither one thing nor t'other.
This is what I said, but I was told that the reason Donald was removed from most DuckTales episodes has nothing to do with the voice and depends on the fact that they didn't want to risk using a big name like Donald in a tv series and maybe there were right issues; of course one thing doesn't exclude the other.
If they will ever do an animated version of classic comics (my dream would be an animated series with faithful adaptations of Barks and Rosa stories) having a human voice for Donald would be the only reasonable thing to do.
By the way, you have a great website! I am looking forward for more reviews.
Three cheers for this. I totally agree with you.
Quote from user: GeoXI think that has to be part of the reason they eliminated Donald as a a regular character in Ducktales: they'd be trying to use a Barks-ish version of the character, but they'd feel compelled to use the original voice, resulting in a half-baked character that's neither one thing nor t'other.
This is what I said, but I was told that the reason Donald was removed from most DuckTales episodes has nothing to do with the voice and depends on the fact that they didn't want to risk using a big name like Donald in a tv series and maybe there were right issues; of course one thing doesn't exclude the other.
If they will ever do an animated version of classic comics (my dream would be an animated series with faithful adaptations of Barks and Rosa stories) having a human voice for Donald would be the only reasonable thing to do.
By the way, you have a great website! I am looking forward for more reviews.
GeoX
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 67 -
2015-02-01 at 13:13:13
Why thank you! As far as animated versions of classic stories go, I think you really do run into a dilemma: because, yes, you would HAVE to give Donald a more "human" voice; they certainly wouldn't work otherwise. On the other hand, Donald with a normal-ish human voice would sound so strange. I don't think most people would be able to deal with it. I'm not sure I would.
Clinton Coot
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 68 -
2015-02-01 at 14:37:32
Quote from user: GeoXWhy thank you! As far as animated versions of classic stories go, I think you really do run into a dilemma: because, yes, you would HAVE to give Donald a more "human" voice; they certainly wouldn't work otherwise. On the other hand, Donald with a normal-ish human voice would sound so strange. I don't think most people would be able to deal with it. I'm not sure I would.
For me, it wouldn't be strange at all in the context of longer adventures, and I'm sure if the stories are great people would easily accept it too (especially if they are from countries where comics Donald is much more famous than animated Donald).
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By the way, you haven't yet approved two of my comments (I'm an anonymous user) in your website: one about a couple of quotes from Barks stories where it is clear the the Number One Dime is the first coin Scrooge earned, and one about the "Donald hatched from an egg omelette bought at the market" nonsense found in some comics from my country, which you asked me about.
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For me, it wouldn't be strange at all in the context of longer adventures, and I'm sure if the stories are great people would easily accept it too (especially if they are from countries where comics Donald is much more famous than animated Donald).
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By the way, you haven't yet approved two of my comments (I'm an anonymous user) in your website: one about a couple of quotes from Barks stories where it is clear the the Number One Dime is the first coin Scrooge earned, and one about the "Donald hatched from an egg omelette bought at the market" nonsense found in some comics from my country, which you asked me about.
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GeoX
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 69 -
2015-02-01 at 15:57:15
Sorry about that! The first comment is published; the other one apparently somehow failed to go through, or at any rate I never saw it and it doesn't appear on the "awaiting moderation" page. :( I'm still really interested about the subject, though.
GeoX
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 70 -
2015-02-01 at 15:57:31
Sorry about that! The first comment is published; the other one apparently somehow failed to go through, or at any rate I never saw it and it doesn't appear on the "awaiting moderation" page. :( I'm still really interested in the subject, though.
Clinton Coot
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 71 -
2015-02-01 at 18:49:21
Quote from user: GeoXSorry about that! The first comment is published; the other one apparently somehow failed to go through, or at any rate I never saw it and it doesn't appear on the "awaiting moderation" page. :( I'm still really interested about the subject, though.
Thanks for publishing the first comment. As for the second one, I don't recall exactly what I wrote, but it was about the fact that in many Italian stories Donald is said to have hatched from an egg omelette bought at the market by Grandma Duck, and I have always hated this idea: for me Donald's parents are Quackmore Duck and Hortense McDuck, and Donald is a human being charicaturally drawn with animal features. Unfortunatly I am not able to cite specific stories where this idea is stated, except for this 1990 story where Donald discovers to have a twin brother ("At the marked Grandma Duck didn't buy only you as an egg omelette, but also me. Two twin eggs, if we can say that"), except it's only a dream. The writer is Carl Panaro, and in recent years he has written few stories that contain references to Barks and Rosa stories, so I can't imagine him doing a similar story today.
Thanks for publishing the first comment. As for the second one, I don't recall exactly what I wrote, but it was about the fact that in many Italian stories Donald is said to have hatched from an egg omelette bought at the market by Grandma Duck, and I have always hated this idea: for me Donald's parents are Quackmore Duck and Hortense McDuck, and Donald is a human being charicaturally drawn with animal features. Unfortunatly I am not able to cite specific stories where this idea is stated, except for this 1990 story where Donald discovers to have a twin brother ("At the marked Grandma Duck didn't buy only you as an egg omelette, but also me. Two twin eggs, if we can say that"), except it's only a dream. The writer is Carl Panaro, and in recent years he has written few stories that contain references to Barks and Rosa stories, so I can't imagine him doing a similar story today.
Thomps2525
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 72 -
2015-02-01 at 20:34:32
That bizarre Donald Duck origin story assumes that Grandma Duck bought an omelette made from duck eggs...and it assumes that the omelette maker did not first check to make sure that the eggs were not fertile...and it assumes that a duckling could hatch from an egg after the egg had been cooked. All three assumptions, even in the world of comic books, are quite implausible, especially the latter one. Wak!
Sirtao
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 73 -
2015-02-01 at 22:23:27
it IS a dream, after all.
Clinton Coot
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 74 -
2015-02-01 at 22:29:58
Quote from user: sirtaoit IS a dream, after all.
The problem is that Donald having a twin brother is the only thing that turns out to be a dream, while the "hatched from an egg omelette bought at the market" is implied to be true, and it was even used in other Italian stories, though I can't remember any title.
Of course for me these kind of stories are absolutely non-canon.
The problem is that Donald having a twin brother is the only thing that turns out to be a dream, while the "hatched from an egg omelette bought at the market" is implied to be true, and it was even used in other Italian stories, though I can't remember any title.
Of course for me these kind of stories are absolutely non-canon.
Angilasman
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 75 -
2015-02-02 at 00:32:06
Quote from user: GeoXWhy thank you! As far as animated versions of classic stories go, I think you really do run into a dilemma: because, yes, you would HAVE to give Donald a more "human" voice; they certainly wouldn't work otherwise. On the other hand, Donald with a normal-ish human voice would sound so strange. I don't think most people would be able to deal with it. I'm not sure I would.
I think comics fans would have to bite the bullet on this one. Even in a Barks inspired animation I just don't see anyone changing the animated Donald's iconic voice.
You could give him simpler, more direct (and understandable) dialog and give the more complex lines to the nephews.
I think comics fans would have to bite the bullet on this one. Even in a Barks inspired animation I just don't see anyone changing the animated Donald's iconic voice.
You could give him simpler, more direct (and understandable) dialog and give the more complex lines to the nephews.