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Topic: Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)

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Clinton Coot
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderI think we're missing the elephant in the room here. I'd argue it's already harder to get an emotional reaction to cartoon characters compared to humans, never mind when they're half-dressed funny animals, but somehow Barks managed it (see Luck of the North, et al).
But surely nobody expects an audience to take A Christmas for Shacktown seriously if the main character talks like THAT? Donald's speech impediment incredibly distracting if you're forced to listen to him say sensible things (so not things like "Wak! Why, you dirty --- oh, <gulp> hiya, toots!").

There ain't enough words in the dictionary to describe how much do I agree with this.
Angilasman
I really love the "hip" '50s slang Barks occasionally gives Donald. That and the black leather jacket he sometimes wears makes me think that comics Donald is kind of a hipster.

Quote from user: Lagopus LagopusI'm kind of disappointed IDW's just doing reprints and not brand new Disney comics... It would be really cool to have new American Disney stuff.

But it sounds like it's a budget issue?

Well, yeah: they can import the overseas material for a steal once they've payed the licensing fee, but didn't Jonathan Grey say that new material wasn't off the table once the titles get established?
Thomps2525
This thread is probably a good place to put this link to the Danish website, DonaldIsMe.dk, although many of you may have already seen this genealogy of Scrooge and Donald and the rest of the Duck clan. I just discovered it and I was quite impressed. Fear not---it's in English.
http://www.donaldisme.dk/ancestors.htm
Dkenny78
There is one possible (albeit kind of lame) solution/compromise to giving Donald a human voice, which could work if Duck Tales were ever to be rebooted (and, let's face it, in this day and age of rebooting everything, it's bound to happen) and they wanted to give him a more active role. Perhaps while serving in the Navy, Donald took diction lessons and was able to adopt a clearer voice EXCEPT for when he loses his temper, in which case the squawking voice would come back out. That MIGHT work.
Argonaut
[Edit: nevermind, posting irrelevancies, don't mind me]
Roger North
Quote from user: dkenny78There is one possible (albeit kind of lame) solution/compromise to giving Donald a human voice, which could work if Duck Tales were ever to be rebooted (and, let's face it, in this day and age of rebooting everything, it's bound to happen) and they wanted to give him a more active role. Perhaps while serving in the Navy, Donald took diction lessons and was able to adopt a clearer voice EXCEPT for when he loses his temper, in which case the squawking voice would come back out. That MIGHT work.
I don't know I think it would be weird if Donald didn't have his traditional voice. Of Course if you spend many years reading the comic books he is not that difficult to understand.
Gyro Gearloose
Quote from user: Thomps2525Does anyone know the origin and exact meaning of "Cushlamachree," the word that Scrooge has uttered in several comic stories of the 1990s and 2000s? I searched for answers and couldn't find any references connecting the word with Scrooge. A woman named Cushla Machree emigrated from Galway to New York in 1849. There was also a ship with that name. The word means "joy of my heart" in Gaelic. Is that what it means when Scrooge says it?
This is the pet exclamation of Mr. O'Malley, the "Fairy Godfather" from the 1940s Crockett Johnson comic-strip "Barnaby"--a strip that didn't have a very long or successful run, but which had a cult following among humorists like W. C. Fields and Dorothy Parker during its time, and which is still fondly remembered by comics buffs today. I've only seen Scrooge use "Cushlamachree" in the works of Pat and Carol McGreal; knowing their fondness for making allusions to other comics and old movies, I suspect it's a deliberate reference to Mr. O'Malley. As such, I don't know if it really fits Scrooge, since it's an Irish Gaelic phrase, not a Scots Gaelic one.
Thomps2525
Thank you, Gyro Gearloose, for inventing such a thoroughly-researched answer. The Barnaby strip is mentioned in three different comic-book histories that I own and a few examples are included. I was born too late to see the strip in the newspaper; it ran from 1942 to 1952. In 2013, Fantagraphics published a volume of the Barnaby strips and the Cleaver magazine review includes a strip in which a flying Mr. O'Malley utters "Cushlamachree!"
http://www.cleavermagazine.com/barnaby-vol-1-by-crockett-johnson/
Is that where Scrooge learned the word? Great honk!
Clinton Coot
Quote from user: Roger NorthQuote from user: dkenny78There is one possible (albeit kind of lame) solution/compromise to giving Donald a human voice, which could work if Duck Tales were ever to be rebooted (and, let's face it, in this day and age of rebooting everything, it's bound to happen) and they wanted to give him a more active role. Perhaps while serving in the Navy, Donald took diction lessons and was able to adopt a clearer voice EXCEPT for when he loses his temper, in which case the squawking voice would come back out. That MIGHT work.
I don't know I think it would be weird if Donald didn't have his traditional voice. Of Course if you spend many years reading the comic books he is not that difficult to understand.

If they ever do a faithfull adaptations of comics, I hope they won't call it a "DuckTales reboot", since that hypothetical based-on-comics series would not have anything to do with DuckTales, except that its predecessor was also (loosely) based on comics. Anyway, since the purpose of a reboot is to delete a previous continuity, I hope that Donald's service in the Navy is not mentioned at all.
By the way, I don't think that a normal voice would be weird, animation fans will get used to it just like most people got used to normal voices for HDL.
Dkenny78
Quote from user: clinton cootIf they ever do a faithfull adaptations of comics, I hope they won't call it a "DuckTales reboot", since that hypothetical based-on-comics series would not have anything to do with DuckTales, except that its predecessor was also (loosely) based on comics. Anyway, since the purpose of a reboot is to delete a previous continuity, I hope that Donald's service in the Navy is not mentioned at all.
There is an enormous amount of nostalgia for 'Duck Tales' that, from a marketing standpoint, I can't imagine Disney would ever greenlight a reboot without utilizing the name. Whether that reboot is a true reboot (outside of the original continuity as you suggest) or a canon continuation of the original series I would speculate is less important to them.
Robb_K
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderI think we're missing the elephant in the room here. I'd argue it's already harder to get an emotional reaction to cartoon characters compared to humans, never mind when they're half-dressed funny animals, but somehow Barks managed it (see Luck of the North, et al).
But surely nobody expects an audience to take A Christmas for Shacktown seriously if the main character talks like THAT? Donald's speech impediment incredibly distracting if you're forced to listen to him say sensible things (so not things like "Wak! Why, you dirty --- oh, <gulp> hiya, toots!").

I disagree wholeheartedly. I have no problem taking ANY speech made in Donald's voice seriously. To me. The Ducks are "Ducklike people" ("Duck People"). They look in part, somewhat like ducks, sounding "somewhat like ducks"(rather than exactly like humans, helps, rather than hurts that belief. To me, having these characters sound exactly like humans actually takes me OUT of their World, and makes it impossible for me to concentrate on "the duck World", because I'm constantly seeing that the voices don't match their bodies. Apparently, on this question I am the exact opposite of all the other posters on this thread who have commented on this issue,
Morequack
Are you kidding? I can't even understand what Donald says when listening to his voice, let alone take it seriously!
Thomps2525
I usually have no trouble understanding what Donald says but I know many people do have a hard time comprehending his dialogue. We can record the chattering voices of a Chip 'n' Dale cartoon on a tape and slow it down so we can clearly hear what they're saying but for some people Donald's voice is probably hard to understand at any speed.
Robb_K
Quote from user: MorequackAre you kidding? I can't even understand what Donald says when listening to his voice, let alone take it seriously!
Different strokes for different folks. If we all thought the same about every subject, it would be a boring World. And, unfortunately, we can't all have everything be the way we;d like it best.
Marrk
This article talks a bit more about the upcoming Uncle Scrooge series
previewsworld.com/home/1/71/977?articleID=159839
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