One step closer...
US 405 (#1) is on Diamond's release list for next week, exactly as scheduled
http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/954
The list isn't finalized until two days before release day, but chances are, it'll be out next week.
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Topic: Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
(290 messages)
Fritz Baugh
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 181 -
2015-04-15 at 19:13:30
Baar Baar Jinx
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 182 -
2015-04-16 at 16:32:19
Quote from user: Fritz BaughUS 405 (#1) is on Diamond's release list for next week, exactly as scheduled.
I heartily approve of the manner in which you have identified the issue number. I only fear we traditionalists will ultimately end up referring to the IDW reset numbering system out of convenience ....
I heartily approve of the manner in which you have identified the issue number. I only fear we traditionalists will ultimately end up referring to the IDW reset numbering system out of convenience ....
Thomps2525
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 183 -
2015-04-16 at 22:01:38
What does everyone think of the 405th issue of Uncle Scrooge becoming Uncle Scrooge #1? To steal a line from Groucho Marx, "I'm against it!"
In 2011, DC Comics launched "The New 52." Fifty-two titles were re-launched with new backstories and each title was numbered as #1. (There have since been issues numbered 0 and 23.1 and some Spider-Man comics numbered 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5, but that's a topic for another discussion.) Superman #1 came out in 1939. In 1987, the continuity was re-written and a new Superman #1 came out. In 2011, the "new 52" launch included a third Superman #1. There have also been three #1 issues of Fantastic Four, in 1961, 2012 and 2014. There have been many other titles with more than one "first issue," including Peanuts, Daredevil, Ms. Marvel, Spider-Man, Betty & Veronica, Powerpuff Girls and all those DC titles. Often the new "first issues" are identified as "Series 2."
Like Mister Jinx, I am a traditionalist. I would prefer that every comic title maintain consistent numbering. I don't want to see "zero" issues or "1.1" issues and I don't want to see two or three "number one" issues for any title. Uncle Scrooge got his own comic book series in 1952. The upcoming issue should be #405. Doesn't longevity mean anything anymore? Five years from now, will someone discover the new Uncle Scrooge #1 and conclude that the title is only five years old? Cushlamacree!
In 2011, DC Comics launched "The New 52." Fifty-two titles were re-launched with new backstories and each title was numbered as #1. (There have since been issues numbered 0 and 23.1 and some Spider-Man comics numbered 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5, but that's a topic for another discussion.) Superman #1 came out in 1939. In 1987, the continuity was re-written and a new Superman #1 came out. In 2011, the "new 52" launch included a third Superman #1. There have also been three #1 issues of Fantastic Four, in 1961, 2012 and 2014. There have been many other titles with more than one "first issue," including Peanuts, Daredevil, Ms. Marvel, Spider-Man, Betty & Veronica, Powerpuff Girls and all those DC titles. Often the new "first issues" are identified as "Series 2."
Like Mister Jinx, I am a traditionalist. I would prefer that every comic title maintain consistent numbering. I don't want to see "zero" issues or "1.1" issues and I don't want to see two or three "number one" issues for any title. Uncle Scrooge got his own comic book series in 1952. The upcoming issue should be #405. Doesn't longevity mean anything anymore? Five years from now, will someone discover the new Uncle Scrooge #1 and conclude that the title is only five years old? Cushlamacree!
Ramapith
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 184 -
2015-04-16 at 22:32:21
But it is #405. It just has new IDW numbering as well.
Check any close-up of the cover online, and you'll see the following line right under the IDW logo:
#1 (#405) ?ยข $3.99
The other IDW editors and I consider it very important to carry on the legacy numbering. Please don't think that we're not doing it.
Check any close-up of the cover online, and you'll see the following line right under the IDW logo:
#1 (#405) ?ยข $3.99
The other IDW editors and I consider it very important to carry on the legacy numbering. Please don't think that we're not doing it.
Thomps2525
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 185 -
2015-04-16 at 22:37:54
Now I is confused. Why include both numbers on the cover? "405" is not "1" and "1" is not "405." Hey, maybe someday IDW could buy out DC and put out a fourth issue of Superman #1. :)
Baar Baar Jinx
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 186 -
2015-04-16 at 22:59:55
Quote from user: ramapithThe other IDW editors and I consider it very important to carry on the legacy numbering. Please don't think that we're not doing it.
Believe me, it is much appreciated. I do understand that this dual-numbering system is probably a compromise between the marketing executives at IDW who want the bump in sales that comes from the collectivity of brand-new #1s and those who are attempting to safeguard the legacy of these longstanding titles, such as yourself. I'm not happy about there being #1s on the Core Four, but if that's what it takes to keep the historic numbering going, so be it. I'm glad you're so actively involved and are able to be the voice of us traditionalists.
It's actually a minor miracle the numbering has survived for as long as it has. While it's no surprise that companies who understand the history and background of these books, like Gladstone and Gemstone, continued with the traditional numbers, I still consider it remarkable that Boom, who honestly had no idea what they were doing in the beginning, didn't just reset the numbers in the midst of all their variant covers and ceaseless self-promotion. Also, I had asked this on another thread a while ago but don't think it went anywhere, but is there any truth to the rumor that Disney was going to reset all their titles to #1, including Uncle Scrooge and WDC&S, and only relented when Bob Foster insisted that the traditional numbering continue?
Do you know why WDC&S isn't being subjected to be the dual-numbering system? I'm not complaining by any means, just curious. Is it true that WDC&S is now the highest numbered comic book still being published in the US? According to Wikipedia, Detective Comics reset after 881 issues in 2011. Even as we speak, the original Archie title from the 1940s is being reset after #666 (without the luxury of dual numbering), so it looks like there isn't really going to be any competition.
Believe me, it is much appreciated. I do understand that this dual-numbering system is probably a compromise between the marketing executives at IDW who want the bump in sales that comes from the collectivity of brand-new #1s and those who are attempting to safeguard the legacy of these longstanding titles, such as yourself. I'm not happy about there being #1s on the Core Four, but if that's what it takes to keep the historic numbering going, so be it. I'm glad you're so actively involved and are able to be the voice of us traditionalists.
It's actually a minor miracle the numbering has survived for as long as it has. While it's no surprise that companies who understand the history and background of these books, like Gladstone and Gemstone, continued with the traditional numbers, I still consider it remarkable that Boom, who honestly had no idea what they were doing in the beginning, didn't just reset the numbers in the midst of all their variant covers and ceaseless self-promotion. Also, I had asked this on another thread a while ago but don't think it went anywhere, but is there any truth to the rumor that Disney was going to reset all their titles to #1, including Uncle Scrooge and WDC&S, and only relented when Bob Foster insisted that the traditional numbering continue?
Do you know why WDC&S isn't being subjected to be the dual-numbering system? I'm not complaining by any means, just curious. Is it true that WDC&S is now the highest numbered comic book still being published in the US? According to Wikipedia, Detective Comics reset after 881 issues in 2011. Even as we speak, the original Archie title from the 1940s is being reset after #666 (without the luxury of dual numbering), so it looks like there isn't really going to be any competition.
Ramapith
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 187 -
2015-04-16 at 23:11:11
Quote from user: Thomps2525Now I is confused. Why include both numbers on the cover? "405" is not "1" and "1" is not "405." Hey, maybe someday IDW could buy out DC and put out a fourth issue of Superman #1. :)
Wak! Where were you in 1993, when Gladstone II proudly made UNCLE SCROOGE 281 the "1st issue" (note starburst at lower right)?
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/0/77/876112-4796_4_281.jpg
Some of my colleagues at IDW want the excitement of presenting a new Scrooge series, while others want to show our respect for longstanding tradition??and still others want both! Featuring both the established numbering, and a separate numbering for our "IDW era," seems like an excellent compromise to us.
Oh, and speaking of compromises...
Quote from user: Thomps2525I would prefer that every comic title maintain consistent numbering. I don't want to see "zero" issues or "1.1" issues and I don't want to see two or three "number one" issues for any title.
You mean like DONALD DUCK ADVENTURES? *grin*
Wak! Where were you in 1993, when Gladstone II proudly made UNCLE SCROOGE 281 the "1st issue" (note starburst at lower right)?
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/0/77/876112-4796_4_281.jpg
Some of my colleagues at IDW want the excitement of presenting a new Scrooge series, while others want to show our respect for longstanding tradition??and still others want both! Featuring both the established numbering, and a separate numbering for our "IDW era," seems like an excellent compromise to us.
Oh, and speaking of compromises...
Quote from user: Thomps2525I would prefer that every comic title maintain consistent numbering. I don't want to see "zero" issues or "1.1" issues and I don't want to see two or three "number one" issues for any title.
You mean like DONALD DUCK ADVENTURES? *grin*
Thomps2525
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 188 -
2015-04-17 at 00:05:36
I have almost every Disney comic published since 1954...and quite a few from 1953 and earlier. I suppose there is very little distinction between "first issue" and "#1," although I didn't get upset at that 1993 "1st issue" because I knew it was Gladstone's first Uncle Scrooge comic. Similarly, Uncle Scrooge #243 was the first issue to be published under the Disney imprint and the cover proclaimed "1st Disney Comics issue." That was fine. I know I shouldn't be so nitpicky about the numbering. I should be happy about the launch of new comics featuring Mickey and Donald and Scrooge and the gang. To use a line spoken by Scrooge in the DuckTales movie, "I wouldn't miss this for all the scones in Scotland!"
Argonaut
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 189 -
2015-04-17 at 04:35:48
Quote from user: Thomps2525it was Gladstone's first Uncle Scrooge comic.
Actually, it was their second first Uncle Scrooge comic. ;)
Actually, it was their second first Uncle Scrooge comic. ;)
Thomps2525
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 190 -
2015-04-17 at 05:01:30
I fear this discussion will soon become similar to the Groucho-and-Chico "contract" routine in the Marx Brothers' 1935 film A Night At The Opera, which begins with: "Now, it says here that the party of the first part shall hereafter be known as the party of the first part." "Which part? The first part or the first part of the party of the first part?"
All this confusion just proves my point: Comic-book numbering should be consistent, with only one #1 issue per title.
All this confusion just proves my point: Comic-book numbering should be consistent, with only one #1 issue per title.
MustangRockstar
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 191 -
2015-04-18 at 05:00:27
I can live with the numbering compromise. In my mind, the series will always be going by its "historical" order.
I'm not crazy about the multiple covers, but that's my own fault for feeling compelled to be a completionist.
I'm not crazy about the multiple covers, but that's my own fault for feeling compelled to be a completionist.
Marrk
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 192 -
2015-04-19 at 14:41:08
I believe we haven't seen this cover yet: http://comics.gocollect.com/priceguide/view/937841 It's the legacy cover of Uncle Scrooge #1 (#405). Can't believe we're only 3 days away. :D
Scarpomaniak
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 193 -
2015-04-19 at 16:51:58
I think that legacy cover of Uncle Scrooge #1 is not very good but has beautiful colors. I hope also that the other cover, in fact, will have a little more vivid colors than on the announcement. I am waiting when the preview (with sample pages) of first issue will appear. And I am waiting on Thursday, because then I should get a copy.
Angilasman
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 194 -
2015-04-20 at 00:29:00
Less than a week away! Usually I wait 'till the weekend to make the trip to the comic shop, but I think it'll be hard to wait in this case.
Patrick Hanifin
Uncle Scrooge #1 (or #405) (from IDW)
Message 195 -
2015-04-20 at 04:18:10
I think I would want the legacy cover because I also like the colors and enjoy the Jungle Boat Cruise when I go to Disneyland. Am I reading it correctly that only one out of 25 comics will have the legacy cover? How do you expect that to be handled at the comic book store? Will that cover be held back and not be released to the public or will they charge a lot more? I guess it will vary from store to store. Anyone have any idea?
Patrick Hanifin
www.PatrickHanifin.com
www.SqueakyCleanComedy.com
Patrick Hanifin
www.PatrickHanifin.com
www.SqueakyCleanComedy.com