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Topic: Don Rosa Library to be published by Fantagraphics in 2014

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GeoX
Did you really manually count out Rosa's total pageage? :P
Of course, in addition to stories, Rosa drew a shitload of covers, and then you have, as you note, sundry posters and other miscellaneous images. Add to that sketches of alternate, unproduced versions of stories and the extra splash panel art, and you've got...a lot of stuff. I think if they integrated all this chronologically with the stories themselves, you could get to eight volumes without having a special, non-story volume. That would probably work better from a marketing standpoint.
Review Or Die
Adding things chronologically makes sense, but I'm much more interested in having room for the commentary and story-specific covers in the volumes. That space can fill up pretty quickly! The Life and Times had two pages of commentary per chapter - and that's just the shortened commentary, rather than the extended version available online. 24 pages of commentary, plus 12 covers, is 36 pages of material for The Life and Times alone.
Either way works, art or commentary, but I have my preference as to which I'd rather see.
I didn't do it manually, no. Some other poor schmuck did it manually! Wikipedia actually has his Duck bibliograpy with a column for the pagecount. I just tallied that up.
AzureBlue
Quote from user: GeoXDid you really manually count out Rosa's total pageage? :P

Of course, in addition to stories, Rosa drew a shitload of covers, and then you have, as you note, sundry posters and other miscellaneous images. Add to that sketches of alternate, unproduced versions of stories and the extra splash panel art, and you've got...a lot of stuff. I think if they integrated all this chronologically with the stories themselves, you could get to eight volumes without having a special, non-story volume. That would probably work better from a marketing standpoint.

Yeah, Rosa drew a crazy amount of covers. And most are really cool too.

I love the series he did for whatever anniversary of Uncle Scrooge for Gemstone that they put on the backs for a year. Those were great.
GeoX
YES COMMENTARY PLEASE! Obviously, I haven't done the math or added things up or anything, but it seems like as long as we're not fixated on having as many stories as possible in each volume, there ought to be room for commentary and ancillary art. But yeah, come to think of it, the commentary is extra-important as it would allow Rosa himself to see some money out of the whole thing.
But seriously, Fantagraphics: don't fuck this up.
AzureBlue
Quote from user: GeoXYES COMMENTARY PLEASE! Obviously, I haven't done the math or added things up or anything, but it seems like as long as we're not fixated on having as many stories as possible in each volume, there ought to be room for commentary and ancillary art. But yeah, come to think of it, the commentary is extra-important as it would allow Rosa himself to see some money out of the whole thing.

But seriously, Fantagraphics: don't fuck this up.

I agree. That would help put me entirely on board, as I don't like paying for stories that I have the majority of.

Regardless, I'll get at least some of them.
Review Or Die
Well, let's say we've got 248 pages. Subtract four pages for a table of contents, copyright page, two pages for an intro/foreword, so you really have 244 pages.
The first 17 stories would total 208 pages (the next, His Majesty McDuck would be 28 pages more). If you used that spread, you could have 36 supplemental pages. 11-12 of those pages could be dedicated to the covers for stories in that volume. If you did that, it leaves 24-25 pages for stuff like commentary, other art, or something else. It would be more if you only choose one cover per story - 5 stories with covers would mean you could have 31 pages for supplemental material.
It ends up being a surprisingly tight fit, even if some of the commentary is likely to be shorter due to the amount of smaller gag pieces. I certainly wouldn't be 100% sure how to handle it, having never seen the big Don Rosa collection to know how long the supplemental texts for his stories are when he's given a bigger canvas to work with.
GeoX
My personal preference would be to err on the side of fewer stories if need be. With this hypothetical first volume, f'rinstance, I think that if need be you could easily relegate the last story, "The Curse of Nostrildamus," to the next book, thereby freeing up ten more pages for extra stuff.
I dunno. There are various ways to do it that would be okay. I just hope they're serious about completeness here, one way or t'other.
Review Or Die
Absolutely true regarding Curse of Nostrildamus, but you get stuck after a certain point. But yeah, completeness is key here for me. The last thing I want is to realize I have to import the big Don Rosa Collection.
I am willing to pay more money for more volumes if it means more material. I am putting that out there right now. I will also pay more money for BIGGER volumes, dimension-wise. I'm just saying, this is a thing I will do.
Gooey98
I don't know how they're planning to do this, but I would like to see ALL of Rosa's Disney work, barring the stories that he just illustrated or colored. Meaning, all the stories he wrote, and all the covers he drew, including back covers.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Quote from user: GeoXYES COMMENTARY PLEASE! Obviously, I haven't done the math or added things up or anything, but it seems like as long as we're not fixated on having as many stories as possible in each volume, there ought to be room for commentary and ancillary art. But yeah, come to think of it, the commentary is extra-important as it would allow Rosa himself to see some money out of the whole thing.

But seriously, Fantagraphics: don't fuck this up.

Rosa commentaries are a MUST. I don't actually care much for the commentaries in the Barks books, since they just analyse the stories. There's nothing personal to it. Rosa's stories OTOH are nothing but personal notes and I find his commentaries to be much more interesting. Also you have the artist himself, instead of scholars.

Furthermore, these volumes should contain as much bonus material as possible. Barks already has two major English-language collections of his work, and Fantagraphics is doing the third, so the lack of bonus material is more forgivable. This is the first proper Rosa collection. They've got one chance to do this right -- so yeah, Fantagraphics: don't screw this up.
And maybe get some help from the Gottfredson team. Now THAT'S a proper collection.
Patrick Hanifin
Don Rosa's commentaries are just as much fun to read as his stories so I hope there's lots of these included!

Patrick Hanifin
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Clefrere
There will be 2 books per year in chronological order.
Fantagraphics is working on the format upper than Carl Barks' Library and color, question about the slipcases like Flyod Gottfredson/Peanuts: pretty likely!

June 2014 seems to be confirmed!

Mr Rosa must do a new sign campaign!! :P
Charlie Brown
Box sets would be so great. I still miss them very much for the Carl Barks books.
Gooey98
Quote from user: Charlie BrownBox sets would be so great. I still miss them very much for the Carl Barks books.
Yeah, it's harder to store your collection without a box set.
Review Or Die
Quote from user: clefrereThere will be 2 books per year in chronological order.
Fantagraphics is working on the format upper than Carl Barks' Library and color, question about the slipcases like Flyod Gottfredson/Peanuts: pretty likely!

June 2014 seems to be confirmed!

Mr Rosa must do a new sign campaign!! :P

I'm sorry, just checking, where did this confirmation come from?
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