DON:
Maybe the change is supposed to be a reference to the Disney movie Toy Story,
in which Mr. Potato Head asked the other toys if they had taken stupid pills
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Klirrdibir
Re:Stupid Pills
Message 1 -
1998-01-01 at 11:47:31
Xfabri
Disney comics Digest V97 #288
Message 2 -
1998-01-01 at 12:11:09
KRITON:
> BTW, using the rough guess approach, I would guess that "Il Premio
> di Bonta" means something like "The Charity Award" and not "The
> Spirit of Christmas", though both titles are appropriate for the
> story. Can any of our Italian friends confirm this?
Yes. I would translate it as "The goodness award".
CARMEN:
> While I'm boring everyone with language trivia, I have a very small nit to
> pick. In ALSS, when Glomgold refers to Magica as "Signorina," the letterist
> didn't need to include the circumflex over the "n." Unlike Spanish, I don't
> believe the Italian language uses this--that's what the "g" in Signorina is
> for, isn't it? Some REAL Italians on this list can give us the facts.
You are 100% right.
Fabrizio.
P.S. Happy 1998 !!!!!!
> BTW, using the rough guess approach, I would guess that "Il Premio
> di Bonta" means something like "The Charity Award" and not "The
> Spirit of Christmas", though both titles are appropriate for the
> story. Can any of our Italian friends confirm this?
Yes. I would translate it as "The goodness award".
CARMEN:
> While I'm boring everyone with language trivia, I have a very small nit to
> pick. In ALSS, when Glomgold refers to Magica as "Signorina," the letterist
> didn't need to include the circumflex over the "n." Unlike Spanish, I don't
> believe the Italian language uses this--that's what the "g" in Signorina is
> for, isn't it? Some REAL Italians on this list can give us the facts.
You are 100% right.
Fabrizio.
P.S. Happy 1998 !!!!!!
Augie De Blieck Jr.
And out of left field...
Message 3 -
1998-01-01 at 12:19:08
ALL:
All this talk about future content of Gladstone books and whether or not
Carl Barks' work should be included, got me to thinking:
Disney has an awful lot of bad policies in regards to its treatment of its
creators. Whether it be the illegal breaking of their contracts by not
returning original art back to the artist, or the lack of royalties, or the
censorship, or any of that sort of stuff.
Time and again we wonder what we can do to break this vicious cycle. On some
small levels, we've had victories. (Byron has managed to get credits printed
in European comics, although I'm not sure if that was a Disney policy or a
European comics policy.) But the larger issues remain unresolved.
And to my mind, there's only one way to resolve these issues: Set the
precedent.
And who better to do so than Carl Barks? Every Duck publisher around the world
would love to be the publisher of a new Carl Barks story. And we know there
is one extant. So wouldn't this be the perfect chance for Barks to correct
some of the grievous policy errors of Disney by forcing them to do what he
wants them to do in order to publish the story? Use a little leverage. Tell
them he won't give up the story until he can be assured the original art got
returned to the artist or something?
Now, maybe I'm overstepping here. Maybe Mr. Barks just doesn't have it in him
to fight the system anymore. (Or maybe he's grateful to it for his career and
doesn't want to upset the applecart.) Maybe this already is part of the
hang-up on the new story seeing publication.
I'm just thinking out loud, I suppose, but I think they're interesting
thoughts...
-Augie
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All this talk about future content of Gladstone books and whether or not
Carl Barks' work should be included, got me to thinking:
Disney has an awful lot of bad policies in regards to its treatment of its
creators. Whether it be the illegal breaking of their contracts by not
returning original art back to the artist, or the lack of royalties, or the
censorship, or any of that sort of stuff.
Time and again we wonder what we can do to break this vicious cycle. On some
small levels, we've had victories. (Byron has managed to get credits printed
in European comics, although I'm not sure if that was a Disney policy or a
European comics policy.) But the larger issues remain unresolved.
And to my mind, there's only one way to resolve these issues: Set the
precedent.
And who better to do so than Carl Barks? Every Duck publisher around the world
would love to be the publisher of a new Carl Barks story. And we know there
is one extant. So wouldn't this be the perfect chance for Barks to correct
some of the grievous policy errors of Disney by forcing them to do what he
wants them to do in order to publish the story? Use a little leverage. Tell
them he won't give up the story until he can be assured the original art got
returned to the artist or something?
Now, maybe I'm overstepping here. Maybe Mr. Barks just doesn't have it in him
to fight the system anymore. (Or maybe he's grateful to it for his career and
doesn't want to upset the applecart.) Maybe this already is part of the
hang-up on the new story seeing publication.
I'm just thinking out loud, I suppose, but I think they're interesting
thoughts...
-Augie
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Luna Storta
Replies
Message 4 -
1998-01-01 at 17:22:46
Hello,
DON:
>You say that the speech that Donald gives in "A Little Something
>Special" was diaappointing? I agree. *snip*
Thanks for your answer, maybe because of my weak english, but I didn't
mean to say that Donald's speech was disappointing, but just that I was
expecting something more from Donald. It seems to me that in some of
your stories he doesn't play the role he deserves... In Italy have been
published just some of your stories, and the only one with a good role
for Donald was Donald Duck Master Landscapist.
KRYTON:
>BTW, using the rough guess approach, I would guess that "Il Premio di
>Bonta" means something like "The Charity Award" and not "The Spirit of
>Christmas", though both titles are appropriate for the story. Can any
>of our Italian friends confirm this?
You are right, the better translation is "the Charity Award", and thank
you and Archontis, I'm now going to re-read this story!
CARMELO:
>While I'm boring everyone with language trivia, I have a very small
>nit to pick. In ALSS, when Glomgold refers to Magica as "Signorina,"
>the letterist didn't need to include the circumflex over the "n."
>Unlike Spanish, I don't believe the Italian language uses this--that's
>what the "g" in Signorina is for, isn't it? Some REAL Italians on this
>list can give us the facts.
In Italian there is no word at all using the circumflex over the "n",
and the exact spelling is "Signorina"
STEVE:
>Gosh, I happen to like the Taliaferro reprint strips. Am I alone in
>this? Should I be shunned by the dcomics community?
No you aren't the only one, at least as long as I'll stay on this list!
I think that Taliaferro stripes are very funny, previously I knew only
the ones printed in the Mondadori book "Paperino 365", that were only
sunday tables (beginning from the Silly Simphonies featuring Donald
Duck). Recently a new Disney publication (Disney mEgazine) is reprinting
all the daily stripes chronologically, and I'm really happy for this.
Ciao,
Paolo Castagno alias Luna Storta
p.s.: The Disney Comics market is still on line at
http://www.confor.it:2222/disney/home.htm
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DON:
>You say that the speech that Donald gives in "A Little Something
>Special" was diaappointing? I agree. *snip*
Thanks for your answer, maybe because of my weak english, but I didn't
mean to say that Donald's speech was disappointing, but just that I was
expecting something more from Donald. It seems to me that in some of
your stories he doesn't play the role he deserves... In Italy have been
published just some of your stories, and the only one with a good role
for Donald was Donald Duck Master Landscapist.
KRYTON:
>BTW, using the rough guess approach, I would guess that "Il Premio di
>Bonta" means something like "The Charity Award" and not "The Spirit of
>Christmas", though both titles are appropriate for the story. Can any
>of our Italian friends confirm this?
You are right, the better translation is "the Charity Award", and thank
you and Archontis, I'm now going to re-read this story!
CARMELO:
>While I'm boring everyone with language trivia, I have a very small
>nit to pick. In ALSS, when Glomgold refers to Magica as "Signorina,"
>the letterist didn't need to include the circumflex over the "n."
>Unlike Spanish, I don't believe the Italian language uses this--that's
>what the "g" in Signorina is for, isn't it? Some REAL Italians on this
>list can give us the facts.
In Italian there is no word at all using the circumflex over the "n",
and the exact spelling is "Signorina"
STEVE:
>Gosh, I happen to like the Taliaferro reprint strips. Am I alone in
>this? Should I be shunned by the dcomics community?
No you aren't the only one, at least as long as I'll stay on this list!
I think that Taliaferro stripes are very funny, previously I knew only
the ones printed in the Mondadori book "Paperino 365", that were only
sunday tables (beginning from the Silly Simphonies featuring Donald
Duck). Recently a new Disney publication (Disney mEgazine) is reprinting
all the daily stripes chronologically, and I'm really happy for this.
Ciao,
Paolo Castagno alias Luna Storta
p.s.: The Disney Comics market is still on line at
http://www.confor.it:2222/disney/home.htm
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DeLa Mothe
Recent Disney Digests (Plain Awful translation)
Message 5 -
1998-01-01 at 17:25:06
Rich Morrissey wrote:
<<"The only Rosa story I can think of offhand where a pun played a
majorrole was
"Return to Plain Awful," whose punch line depended on one. I'd be
interested myself to learn how translators in other countries dealt
withthat.">>
In Sweden "Plain Awful" has been translated to "Avskyvärld" which all
swedish readers understand is quite a translation. I will try to explain
why it is so (unless you take my word for it).
(Note: if the word "Avskyvärld" is printed in a strange way, picture it
like "Avskyvarld")
The words "Plain Awful" has a double meaning which I hope you all
understand. That's the oun of it. Well, The swedish translation has
almost exactly the same double meaning. Put together, "avskyvärd" means
abominable, execrable, detestable, loathesome (you get the picture...).
The "l" has top be dropped for pun reasons , but swedish readers seem to
accept that. "avsky" means "detest" and "värld" means "world"
So, "avskyvärd" means "detestable" and "avskyvärld" is a pun which could
be interpreted as "detestable world".
Hope I haven't bored you with this small lesson in swedish.
Oh, and Happy new year everyone!
/Martin Berglund
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<<"The only Rosa story I can think of offhand where a pun played a
majorrole was
"Return to Plain Awful," whose punch line depended on one. I'd be
interested myself to learn how translators in other countries dealt
withthat.">>
In Sweden "Plain Awful" has been translated to "Avskyvärld" which all
swedish readers understand is quite a translation. I will try to explain
why it is so (unless you take my word for it).
(Note: if the word "Avskyvärld" is printed in a strange way, picture it
like "Avskyvarld")
The words "Plain Awful" has a double meaning which I hope you all
understand. That's the oun of it. Well, The swedish translation has
almost exactly the same double meaning. Put together, "avskyvärd" means
abominable, execrable, detestable, loathesome (you get the picture...).
The "l" has top be dropped for pun reasons , but swedish readers seem to
accept that. "avsky" means "detest" and "värld" means "world"
So, "avskyvärd" means "detestable" and "avskyvärld" is a pun which could
be interpreted as "detestable world".
Hope I haven't bored you with this small lesson in swedish.
Oh, and Happy new year everyone!
/Martin Berglund
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Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #289
Message 6 -
1998-01-01 at 18:23:04
AUGIE:
Ah, okay ... you do understand how I work. It sounded like you thought I was
getting paid per detail or historical-accuracy and not per page. Yes, you're
right, I do NOT have to work toward specific issue deadlines. Quite so.
>From: "Luna Storta"
> I didn't
>mean to say that Donald's speech was disappointing, but just that I was
>expecting something more from Donald. It seems to me that in some of
>your stories he doesn't play the role he deserves...
*SPOILER*
? If you were "expecting something more", that's the definition of
"disappointing", eh? But I knew I didn't give DD heroic enough roles, so I
thought giving him the speech that intellectually and dynamically spurs the
entire city to action would be the best part in the story. And then I have
HIM, not $crooge, being the character that saves the whole city of Duckburg.
If you wanted him running around as brave and in-command as $crooge, that's
not my particular vision of DD. If you want him to perform greater deeds
than saving all of Duckburg, I don't think I can deliver it.
From "Klirrdibir":
"Maybe the change is supposed to be a reference to the Disney movie Toy
Story"
Well, I don't know, but puh-lease DON'T say "Disney movie Toy Story". That
was a *Pixar* movie. I'm already tearing my hair out (or what's left of it)
that Disney has bought the rights to the animated features of Miyasaki,
stuff like "Laputa" which I consider to be the greatest animated film ever
made... and soon everyone will be saying "Disney's Laputa" as if Disney had
anything at all to do with it!
Ah, okay ... you do understand how I work. It sounded like you thought I was
getting paid per detail or historical-accuracy and not per page. Yes, you're
right, I do NOT have to work toward specific issue deadlines. Quite so.
>From: "Luna Storta"
> I didn't
>mean to say that Donald's speech was disappointing, but just that I was
>expecting something more from Donald. It seems to me that in some of
>your stories he doesn't play the role he deserves...
*SPOILER*
? If you were "expecting something more", that's the definition of
"disappointing", eh? But I knew I didn't give DD heroic enough roles, so I
thought giving him the speech that intellectually and dynamically spurs the
entire city to action would be the best part in the story. And then I have
HIM, not $crooge, being the character that saves the whole city of Duckburg.
If you wanted him running around as brave and in-command as $crooge, that's
not my particular vision of DD. If you want him to perform greater deeds
than saving all of Duckburg, I don't think I can deliver it.
From "Klirrdibir":
"Maybe the change is supposed to be a reference to the Disney movie Toy
Story"
Well, I don't know, but puh-lease DON'T say "Disney movie Toy Story". That
was a *Pixar* movie. I'm already tearing my hair out (or what's left of it)
that Disney has bought the rights to the animated features of Miyasaki,
stuff like "Laputa" which I consider to be the greatest animated film ever
made... and soon everyone will be saying "Disney's Laputa" as if Disney had
anything at all to do with it!
Eta Beta
Taliaferro strips
Message 7 -
1998-01-01 at 18:30:07
STEVE
>Gosh, I happen to like the Taliaferro reprint strips. Am I alone in this?
> Should I be shunned by the dcomics community?
I'll be with you.
Taliaferro strips are where all this started. We wouldn't be here,
probably, chatting about a Mr. Donald Duck, if it wasn't for those strips.
Cheers
Eta Beta
>Gosh, I happen to like the Taliaferro reprint strips. Am I alone in this?
> Should I be shunned by the dcomics community?
I'll be with you.
Taliaferro strips are where all this started. We wouldn't be here,
probably, chatting about a Mr. Donald Duck, if it wasn't for those strips.
Cheers
Eta Beta
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Question in USA 51
Message 8 -
1998-01-01 at 19:03:34
Hi!
In Uncle Scrooge Adventures 51, the following letter was printed:
> I remember a story from the German Mickey Mouse comic book in which
> Donald sings in the shower, while the boss of a record company drives by
> and hears him. Of course, he signs Donald. Do you know who the artist
> is and have you reprinted the story? In general, I'm mainly interested
> in Carl Barks' stories. I hope every issue of Uncle Scrooge Adventures
> features a Barks story.
>
> Olaf Kohlmann
> Chapel Hill, NC
I hope Harry the Database-wizard :-) didn't beat me to this one:
81-38a D 3687 10 VR DD Als popzanger [origpg:11]
| nl : DA.13*
BTW. Strange that the database mentions no German reprint. Are there more
stories like this one? The only difference with the description is that
Donald is *screaming* (at least not quite singing) because he accidently
put on only the cold water of the shower.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
In Uncle Scrooge Adventures 51, the following letter was printed:
> I remember a story from the German Mickey Mouse comic book in which
> Donald sings in the shower, while the boss of a record company drives by
> and hears him. Of course, he signs Donald. Do you know who the artist
> is and have you reprinted the story? In general, I'm mainly interested
> in Carl Barks' stories. I hope every issue of Uncle Scrooge Adventures
> features a Barks story.
>
> Olaf Kohlmann
> Chapel Hill, NC
I hope Harry the Database-wizard :-) didn't beat me to this one:
81-38a D 3687 10 VR DD Als popzanger [origpg:11]
| nl : DA.13*
BTW. Strange that the database mentions no German reprint. Are there more
stories like this one? The only difference with the description is that
Donald is *screaming* (at least not quite singing) because he accidently
put on only the cold water of the shower.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V97 #289
Message 9 -
1998-01-01 at 19:21:16
FABRIZIO:
> Yes. I would translate it as "The goodness award".
Surprisingly enough, this was my first guess (bonta would be bon-something,
i.e., good-something, i.e., goodness). A better English word would be
kindness, but I chose "charity" over it, as that was what everybody seemed to
be obsessed with in this story!
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Did you just see what I didn't see?"
"No."
"Neither did I!"
-----
> Yes. I would translate it as "The goodness award".
Surprisingly enough, this was my first guess (bonta would be bon-something,
i.e., good-something, i.e., goodness). A better English word would be
kindness, but I chose "charity" over it, as that was what everybody seemed to
be obsessed with in this story!
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Did you just see what I didn't see?"
"No."
"Neither did I!"
-----
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Geoffrey Blum
Message 10 -
1998-01-01 at 23:15:31
Hi Daniel,
> Isn't Geoffrey Blum at least a *bit* right if he says Rosa-fans are easily
> insulted (as has been said here), given the recent negative comments on
> his (Blum's) articles?
Nope. Only if his facts were true and his criticisms with merit would we then
prove him true with quick attack. By spoiling the story, making completely
factually inaccurate statements, and then insulting the fans of the comic they
just bought, I think he deserves it all in spades.
Although you bring up another good point - how do the factual innacuracies get
past Gladstone Editorial so easily? And these weren't minor facts, mind you,
nor ones which would be difficult to check on.
While I'm here and at it, you also wrote:
>> About "Donald Duck Tells About Kites" again: Still you haven't answered
the question if there will be a fascimile reprint of the story in a
WDC&S, even though some e-mails to this list point out there are people
longing for that. Hopefully you will give the answer now? <<
WDC&S is not a reprint service. While they don't wish to ignore their readers,
I'm sure, it is not their job to take requests and print them, assuming they
are available and in such a shape as to merit a printing which wouldn't bring
further embarassment to Gladstone. The contents of WDC&s at this point are
probably pretty well set for the next 6 months, with enough material already in
hand to print the next twelve issues, given the recent implosion. And as
much as we all might want to change content or format of the Gladstone
titles, Gladstone does have a certain direction they feel they need to go
in. If the Kite story doesn't fit that editorial profile, they don't have
to print it. Gary does not always answer every point in every post, nor every
one directed at him. Give him a chance, eh?
And one comment, in general: For those of you belly-aching about there being
too many Barks reprints, you can rest easy now. With there being only
two monthly titles now, you'll get to see a lot less Barks. Instead of one
Barks in each of 3 or 4 titles per rmonth, you may see only two or three
stories across two monthly comics. So you have your silver lining on the
Gladstone Guillotining.
-Augie
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> Isn't Geoffrey Blum at least a *bit* right if he says Rosa-fans are easily
> insulted (as has been said here), given the recent negative comments on
> his (Blum's) articles?
Nope. Only if his facts were true and his criticisms with merit would we then
prove him true with quick attack. By spoiling the story, making completely
factually inaccurate statements, and then insulting the fans of the comic they
just bought, I think he deserves it all in spades.
Although you bring up another good point - how do the factual innacuracies get
past Gladstone Editorial so easily? And these weren't minor facts, mind you,
nor ones which would be difficult to check on.
While I'm here and at it, you also wrote:
>> About "Donald Duck Tells About Kites" again: Still you haven't answered
the question if there will be a fascimile reprint of the story in a
WDC&S, even though some e-mails to this list point out there are people
longing for that. Hopefully you will give the answer now? <<
WDC&S is not a reprint service. While they don't wish to ignore their readers,
I'm sure, it is not their job to take requests and print them, assuming they
are available and in such a shape as to merit a printing which wouldn't bring
further embarassment to Gladstone. The contents of WDC&s at this point are
probably pretty well set for the next 6 months, with enough material already in
hand to print the next twelve issues, given the recent implosion. And as
much as we all might want to change content or format of the Gladstone
titles, Gladstone does have a certain direction they feel they need to go
in. If the Kite story doesn't fit that editorial profile, they don't have
to print it. Gary does not always answer every point in every post, nor every
one directed at him. Give him a chance, eh?
And one comment, in general: For those of you belly-aching about there being
too many Barks reprints, you can rest easy now. With there being only
two monthly titles now, you'll get to see a lot less Barks. Instead of one
Barks in each of 3 or 4 titles per rmonth, you may see only two or three
stories across two monthly comics. So you have your silver lining on the
Gladstone Guillotining.
-Augie
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Luca Boschi
About Scarpa and his very first Donald story (now in reprinting)
Message 11 -
1998-01-01 at 23:36:53
To Eta Beta (I'll answer to you in italian, and privately, later... =
Obviously I remember of you!)
LUCA BOSCHI
>"Paperino e i gamberi in salm=EC" (the very first story he wrote, and
>partially drew
Partially ?
Yes... I mean that BEFORE starting to work for Mondadori, Scarpa drew =
some pages of that story, only in pencils, on very thin sheets of paper. =
Some pages of this early version were published in the two books we =
wrote some ten years ago (with Leonardo Gori, Andrea Sani, Alberto =
Becattini): "Romano Scarpa" and "I Disney Italiani". Maybe that also in =
the next to come out "I Maestri Disney" some pages of this early =
version, which presents some changementes and refeneces to the movie =
"L'Asso nella manica", shall be printed, to confront 'em with the final =
version. I think that also an unpublished page shall see the light in =
this occasion. And, about this one: Scarpa drew it TOTALLY by himself, =
pencils and inks.
In my old message, I only wanted to say that when he drew the story for =
the first time, he didn't go on after the first ten pages (or so).
Cheers to everyone, and Happy New Year to Eta Beta and to all the =
members of this always interesting List!
Luca Boschi
-
Obviously I remember of you!)
LUCA BOSCHI
>"Paperino e i gamberi in salm=EC" (the very first story he wrote, and
>partially drew
Partially ?
Yes... I mean that BEFORE starting to work for Mondadori, Scarpa drew =
some pages of that story, only in pencils, on very thin sheets of paper. =
Some pages of this early version were published in the two books we =
wrote some ten years ago (with Leonardo Gori, Andrea Sani, Alberto =
Becattini): "Romano Scarpa" and "I Disney Italiani". Maybe that also in =
the next to come out "I Maestri Disney" some pages of this early =
version, which presents some changementes and refeneces to the movie =
"L'Asso nella manica", shall be printed, to confront 'em with the final =
version. I think that also an unpublished page shall see the light in =
this occasion. And, about this one: Scarpa drew it TOTALLY by himself, =
pencils and inks.
In my old message, I only wanted to say that when he drew the story for =
the first time, he didn't go on after the first ten pages (or so).
Cheers to everyone, and Happy New Year to Eta Beta and to all the =
members of this always interesting List!
Luca Boschi
-
Luca Boschi
Jack Bradbury and Brigitta, "companion"
Message 12 -
1998-01-02 at 00:19:01
H%E5kan J%E4rund wrote:
> =
> Dear mr.Luca Boschi!
> =
> I read in the Disney Comics Digest that You=B4re a fan of Jack Bradbury=
,
> and that you also have contact with him (something about christmas
> cards). Well, I=B4m a great fan of him to, so I wonder if you please wo=
uld
> like to sen me his address. I=B4m also a fan of Romano Scarpa, Giorgio
> Cavazzano, Daniel Branca and Cecar Ferioli, so if You=B4ve got some sor=
t
> of address to someone of them please send them to me, I=B9ve been tryin=
g
> to contact them for years.
Well, dear Haokan Jaerund... I really don't know if this artists (and =
friends) want to be joined by fans, indeed... Please me, but I must ask =
it for them, before giving their address around. I'm sure Scarpa doesn't =
like it. Pardon me...
> By the way, I=B4m trying to make a sort of index over the Disney comic
> characters debuts, and I wonder if you know where Super Duck, Catfoot
> (Black Pete=B4s helper), and Brigitta mc Bridge=B4s companion...... I d=
on=B4t
> know his name in neither English nor Italian, made their debuts and who=
> created them?
- Super Duck is the italian Paperinik: created by Guido Martina (text) =
and Giovan Battista Carpi (drawings) in 1969, for the issue 706-707 of =
"Topolino".
=
=AD Catfoot (Black Pete=B4s helper) some times in Italy is called =
Sgraffigna, but originally he is not exactly a character. Only in the =
French version he has a definite identity. Indeed, was drawn by Paul =
Murry in the early '50s for the Dell's comic books. =
=AD Brigitta mc Bridge=B4s "companion" maybe Filo Sganga (in Italian).He=
=
was created by Romano Scarpa in "Topolino" n.262 del 1961. His american =
name, choosen by Scarpa, was Jubal Cock, but at Egmont Dave Gerstein =
decided to give him a different name, to avoid incidents dued to the =
other meaning of "cock"... =
Best to you!
Luca
> =
> Dear mr.Luca Boschi!
> =
> I read in the Disney Comics Digest that You=B4re a fan of Jack Bradbury=
,
> and that you also have contact with him (something about christmas
> cards). Well, I=B4m a great fan of him to, so I wonder if you please wo=
uld
> like to sen me his address. I=B4m also a fan of Romano Scarpa, Giorgio
> Cavazzano, Daniel Branca and Cecar Ferioli, so if You=B4ve got some sor=
t
> of address to someone of them please send them to me, I=B9ve been tryin=
g
> to contact them for years.
Well, dear Haokan Jaerund... I really don't know if this artists (and =
friends) want to be joined by fans, indeed... Please me, but I must ask =
it for them, before giving their address around. I'm sure Scarpa doesn't =
like it. Pardon me...
> By the way, I=B4m trying to make a sort of index over the Disney comic
> characters debuts, and I wonder if you know where Super Duck, Catfoot
> (Black Pete=B4s helper), and Brigitta mc Bridge=B4s companion...... I d=
on=B4t
> know his name in neither English nor Italian, made their debuts and who=
> created them?
- Super Duck is the italian Paperinik: created by Guido Martina (text) =
and Giovan Battista Carpi (drawings) in 1969, for the issue 706-707 of =
"Topolino".
=
=AD Catfoot (Black Pete=B4s helper) some times in Italy is called =
Sgraffigna, but originally he is not exactly a character. Only in the =
French version he has a definite identity. Indeed, was drawn by Paul =
Murry in the early '50s for the Dell's comic books. =
=AD Brigitta mc Bridge=B4s "companion" maybe Filo Sganga (in Italian).He=
=
was created by Romano Scarpa in "Topolino" n.262 del 1961. His american =
name, choosen by Scarpa, was Jubal Cock, but at Egmont Dave Gerstein =
decided to give him a different name, to avoid incidents dued to the =
other meaning of "cock"... =
Best to you!
Luca
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Oscar ten Houten: His Majesty McDuck
Message 13 -
1998-01-02 at 01:34:47
OSCAR TEN HOUTEN, 19 DECEMBER 1997:
> I just read Don Rosa's story AR 30 about his majesty Scrooge.
> But I only got the Dutch version, so I wanted to ask if anyone of you
> knows what the original name was of Scrooge's own independend nation.
This is going to be a surprise for you: McDuckland! ;-)
However, from the outside it seems like it's called "McDuck Feed and Grain
Company". (One has to read the story to understand this.)
Greetings and a happy newyear to everyone!
--- Daniel
> I just read Don Rosa's story AR 30 about his majesty Scrooge.
> But I only got the Dutch version, so I wanted to ask if anyone of you
> knows what the original name was of Scrooge's own independend nation.
This is going to be a surprise for you: McDuckland! ;-)
However, from the outside it seems like it's called "McDuck Feed and Grain
Company". (One has to read the story to understand this.)
Greetings and a happy newyear to everyone!
--- Daniel
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Barks about Gottfredson
Message 14 -
1998-01-02 at 01:37:35
SHAUN M. KNOWLER, 27 DECEMBER 1997:
> In the solicitation for WDCiC, is says that Gottfredson was a mentor
> for Barks... When has Barks referred to Gottfredson as his mentor? This
> is news to me! Has this ever come up in the past?
Here are two quotes:
"When you look at my stories in the comic books you'll see that I was
trying to follow in the format that Gottfredson established, having
Mickey and the other guys involved in funny situations at the same time
as they were having serious problems. And [then] they solved their
problems by funny means."
1976 interview. Carl Barks Library, page 1B-270.
"You could draw just so much violent action in a comic book before it
began to get tiresome. I think Floyd Gottfredson put his finger on it one
time when I was talking to him, sometime in the nineteen-forties. I'd
gone to the studio for something. He said, 'In the strip, the reader can
hold it up, and he looks at it for a long, long time, but when it's on
the screen, he sees it for a twenty-fourth of a second, and it's gone.'
There's no chance for him to look at it too long. I remembered what
he had told me, and I toned down my action a little bit after having
talked with him."
Quoted in Michael Barrier book "Carl Barks and the Art of the Comic
Book", page 35.
The Carl Barks Library (page 1B-270) shows a picture of Barks meeting
Gottfredson in the Disney Archives, looking at a little "Steamboat Willy"
Mickey-statue.
There could be more Gottfredson-quotes, but this is what I've found so far.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
> In the solicitation for WDCiC, is says that Gottfredson was a mentor
> for Barks... When has Barks referred to Gottfredson as his mentor? This
> is news to me! Has this ever come up in the past?
Here are two quotes:
"When you look at my stories in the comic books you'll see that I was
trying to follow in the format that Gottfredson established, having
Mickey and the other guys involved in funny situations at the same time
as they were having serious problems. And [then] they solved their
problems by funny means."
1976 interview. Carl Barks Library, page 1B-270.
"You could draw just so much violent action in a comic book before it
began to get tiresome. I think Floyd Gottfredson put his finger on it one
time when I was talking to him, sometime in the nineteen-forties. I'd
gone to the studio for something. He said, 'In the strip, the reader can
hold it up, and he looks at it for a long, long time, but when it's on
the screen, he sees it for a twenty-fourth of a second, and it's gone.'
There's no chance for him to look at it too long. I remembered what
he had told me, and I toned down my action a little bit after having
talked with him."
Quoted in Michael Barrier book "Carl Barks and the Art of the Comic
Book", page 35.
The Carl Barks Library (page 1B-270) shows a picture of Barks meeting
Gottfredson in the Disney Archives, looking at a little "Steamboat Willy"
Mickey-statue.
There could be more Gottfredson-quotes, but this is what I've found so far.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Donald Duck Tells About Kites / CBL-changes
Message 15 -
1998-01-02 at 01:43:38
GARY LEACH to FRANCOIS WILLOT, 19 DECEMBER 1997:
Explaining why "Donald Duck Tells About Kites" is so retouched in the CBL:
> [...] it's because no photostats were available from Western. Hard as
> they tried, they couldn't come up with anything. At first we thought we
> could create stats by shooting the pages of the actual comic book on a
> stat camera and blowing out the color.
Why blowing out the colour? Why not a fascimile colour or greyscale
reprint? I bought the Carl Barks Library because I wanted all his work
complete, not because I wanted to see "clear" b/w line-art. I felt (and
still feel) cheated when I learnt the CBL certainly isn't all Barks.
The "Changes in the Carl Barks Library" list is already very long and
*still growing*. I also have the idea that all original "Uncle $crooge"
title-captions in CBL 3 (and other sets?) are removed and replaced by a
newer one (I've never seen the originals, so that"s why it's a guess).
There are also stories retouched, which makes the CBL a difficult source
for comparisions. There is a panel in "The Golden Fleece" which original
looked butchered if you looked closely at the background. In the CBL this
is retouched, possibly throwing away a proof that more has happened to this
story than we actually know! (Or maybe it's only in the Dutch reprint? Why
can't I trust the CBL on this?)
For the people who want to know: I'm talking about panel 17.5. In the past
(earlier this year?) I've written an e-mail with more details about which
yet unknown things might have happened to this story (including a Barks
quote in which he says that apart from the Harpy/Larkie-relettering, he
had to change a total of two pages. That's much more than the two
alternative panels we know.)
About "Donald Duck Tells About Kites" again: Still you haven't answered
the question if there will be a fascimile reprint of the story in a
WDC&S, even though some e-mails to this list point out there are people
longing for that. Hopefully you will give the answer now?
Greetings,
--- Daniel
Explaining why "Donald Duck Tells About Kites" is so retouched in the CBL:
> [...] it's because no photostats were available from Western. Hard as
> they tried, they couldn't come up with anything. At first we thought we
> could create stats by shooting the pages of the actual comic book on a
> stat camera and blowing out the color.
Why blowing out the colour? Why not a fascimile colour or greyscale
reprint? I bought the Carl Barks Library because I wanted all his work
complete, not because I wanted to see "clear" b/w line-art. I felt (and
still feel) cheated when I learnt the CBL certainly isn't all Barks.
The "Changes in the Carl Barks Library" list is already very long and
*still growing*. I also have the idea that all original "Uncle $crooge"
title-captions in CBL 3 (and other sets?) are removed and replaced by a
newer one (I've never seen the originals, so that"s why it's a guess).
There are also stories retouched, which makes the CBL a difficult source
for comparisions. There is a panel in "The Golden Fleece" which original
looked butchered if you looked closely at the background. In the CBL this
is retouched, possibly throwing away a proof that more has happened to this
story than we actually know! (Or maybe it's only in the Dutch reprint? Why
can't I trust the CBL on this?)
For the people who want to know: I'm talking about panel 17.5. In the past
(earlier this year?) I've written an e-mail with more details about which
yet unknown things might have happened to this story (including a Barks
quote in which he says that apart from the Harpy/Larkie-relettering, he
had to change a total of two pages. That's much more than the two
alternative panels we know.)
About "Donald Duck Tells About Kites" again: Still you haven't answered
the question if there will be a fascimile reprint of the story in a
WDC&S, even though some e-mails to this list point out there are people
longing for that. Hopefully you will give the answer now?
Greetings,
--- Daniel