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Harry Fluks
First, some news from Holland:

The Dutch DD weekly opens this year with a Gerstein story
(D 95060), the story with Abbot McGoon. Though the story
involves animals 8-), it is quite enjoyable!

AUGIE:
> Every Duck publisher around the world
> would love to be the publisher of a new Carl Barks story. And we know there
> is one extant.

If *every* publisher would love to publish it, it would have been
published by now! Two publishers in Europe rejected the story
("Somewhere in Nowhere").

BTW, I'm convinced that the Barks Studio had the condition
that they get the art back (thus breaking any Disney "rule").
How else would they make big money out of the story?

ETA BETA:

> Taliaferro strips are where all this started. We wouldn't be here,
> probably, chatting about a Mr. Donald Duck, if it wasn't for those strips.

You can also look at it from another angle: Carl Barks would never
have started making Duck stories if the editors at that time found
the Taliaferro strips suitable enough for reprint in the comics!

DANIEL van E.:

> 81-38a D 3687 10 VR DD Als popzanger [origpg:11]
> BTW. Strange that the database mentions no German reprint.

It does in the current (not-yet available) version. It was in Germany
in Micky Maus 7, 1979.

> There is a panel in "The Golden Fleece" which original
> looked butchered if you looked closely at the background. In the CBL this
> is retouched, possibly throwing away a proof that more has happened to this
> story than we actually know! (Or maybe it's only in the Dutch reprint?)

The Dutch reprints of that story are a mess. You cannot "analyse" the
story by (just) looking at a Dutch reprint.

> In the past (earlier this year?) I've written an e-mail with more details

Unlikely. The year is only 3 days old... 8-)

AUGIE:

>> About "Donald Duck Tells About Kites" again: Still you haven't answered
the question if there will be a fascimile reprint of the story in a
WDC&S [..] <<

> WDC&S is not a reprint service.

Then why did we get a full reprint of MM Magazine #1? And why
did we get that many "The Year That Was" pages with reprints
of (rare and less rare, interesting and less interesting) material?
To me, an important part of WDC&S *is* a reprint service.

--Harry.
"I heard y'were lookin' for a teller!"
"Sorry! You're not the man we want! The teller we're
looking for is the one who skipped with $60,000!"
(1938)

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SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 98-01-03 07:09:39 EST, you write:
Harry wrote to:
<< ETA BETA:

> Taliaferro strips are where all this started. We wouldn't be here,
> probably, chatting about a Mr. Donald Duck, if it wasn't for those strips.

You can also look at it from another angle: Carl Barks would never
have started making Duck stories if the editors at that time found
the Taliaferro strips suitable enough for reprint in the comics! >>

Of course, the story (true or not) being told is that Western was lloking for
someone to do new Duck stories because they had allready printed all the
Taliaferro strips and were reprinting them for the second time in WDC&S.

Steven Rowe
Per-Erik Malmström
Hi!!

A couple of years ago the Swedish Kalle Anka & C:O printed fascimile
editions of the first issues of KA&C:O, originaly published in 1948. Have
the same thing been done in america or any other english speaking country?

Have any early strips with Donald/Mickey been republished(in english)
outside the regular comic books? In any "I books", or something like that?

DAVID:
> My question: could someone tell me what stories are in the other two
> issues (no.s 1 and 4)? If I have an opportunity to pick up one or both
of
> the other 2 sometime, I'd like to know whats in them. Some stories I
may already have.

No.1: "Son of the Sun"
"Cash Flow"

No.4: "His Majesty McDuck"
"The Curse of Nostrildamus"
"Fiscal Fitness" (writ: Gary Leach)

Happy hunting!!

Best,
Per-Erik
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Tarjei Kidd Olsen
Hi and a happy new year...

NORWEGIANS:
Is it just my imagination (and it might well be), or have whoever colours
the stories in the "Donald Duck & Co" weekly comic begun using "graded
colouring" (?)..i.e what Gladstone does, the colours fading into different
shades and colours in the same panel, f.eks particularly the sun on p. 22
of #2 '98. Or panels 2 and 7 on p. 10 (there are many more examples). Apart
from that, the colours also seem stronger and less greyish. Am I imagining
all this?

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Kriton Kyrimis
WILMER:

> the use of "!" to end sentences is probably more nearly due to the
> ease of seeing that symbol instead of the much smaller ".")

As Gladstone explained in one of their "year that was" reprints, sentences
end with exclamation marks because periods can be mistaken for dirt
specks and be eliminated by the printer. In that particular reprint,
Gladstone had restored one such eliminated speck, without which the
corrected panel did not make sense!

Of course, I don't remember where I saw this! :-(
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Donald D. Markstein
WILMER RIVERS --
The reason comics use "bangs" (aka exclamation points)
instead of periods to end sentences is indeed, as per your
alternative suggestion, ease of reading. They were originally
printed on high-speed presses, using a cheap grade of paper.
Also, the original comics were syndicated to many different
newspapers, which had different presses and different standards
of production. For those reasons, the printing was not so
reliably legible that they could count on a small thing like a
period being seen. Sometimes, too, it would be hard to
distinguish a period from a comma.
Of course, using "bangs" fit right in with the cartoon
medium, which is based on exaggeration and larger-than-life
action. It stands to reason that everything anyone says is
uttered with breathless excitement. Therefore, even in cases
where the printing can be counted on to articulate things as
small a periods, we continue to use them. Where we require even
greater emphasis, we vary the size or weight of the lettering.
Several decades ago, a U.S. comics writer got so much in
the habit of using bangs instead of periods, that he frequently
did it with his middle initial. He finally decided it was easier
to change the style of his name, than to take the trouble of
switching back and forth, so his name in the comics community
officially became "Elliott S! Maggin". He later gave up writing
and went into politics. I wonder if he ever changed his name
back . . .

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On Jan 3, 3:46pm, Per-Erik Malmström wrote:
> Subject: RE: Gladstone US DR Albums

> A couple of years ago the Swedish Kalle Anka & C:O printed fascimile
> editions of the first issues of KA&C:O, originaly published in 1948. Have
> the same thing been done in america or any other english speaking country?
>
I don't think so.

> Have any early strips with Donald/Mickey been republished(in english)
> outside the regular comic books? In any "I books", or something like that?
>
There have been US editions of the "I books" (if you mean "Io Paperino,"
etc.). If I remember right, the Donald Duck one was a retranslation back
from Italian, not Barks's original text. The US publisher was Abbeville,
mostly known for art books. I wrote a review for a comics magazine at the
time, called "Mess of the Abbevilles" (a tortured pun on the title of a
novel by Thomas Hardy, "Tess of the d'Urbervilles," that probably went
right past everyone who read it).

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Danny Coenen
It`s great to see how this list has grown, and how international it is
today. It`s amazing how Disney comics remain to be so popular all over
the world, despite its cultural and moral varieties.
Congratulations to us, and especially to Per- without
you this list would probably not even exist!
Thanks to all of you!

Have a great day!!!

==
Danny Coenen

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Carey M. Furlong
> From: "David B. Fenske" <(Email removed)>
> My question: could someone tell me what stories are in the other two
> issues (no.s 1 and 4)?

Gladstone's US Adeventures in Color by Don Rosa (TPB):

#1 - Son of the Sun
Cash Flow

#4 - His Majesty McDuck
The Curse of Nostrildamus
Fiscal Fitness

- "Blasted kids must think I'm a whelcher!"
S. McDuck (US3 - OS 495)

Carey Furlong; Huntington Beach, California;
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Eta Beta
HARRY

>> Taliaferro strips are where all this started. We wouldn't be here,
>> probably, chatting about a Mr. Donald Duck, if it wasn't for those strips.
>
>You can also look at it from another angle: Carl Barks would never
>have started making Duck stories if the editors at that time found
>the Taliaferro strips suitable enough for reprint in the comics!

I reckon that, on the contrary, the very reason the comic books business
started
was the fact that people liked the characters in the strips, and the
publishers
decided to give them more "room" to move in, with longer stories
purposedly made.
That happened, also, thanks to Taliaferro's work, surely not despite of
it.

Eta Beta
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Hi Danny,

> In the last issue of Donald Duck Adventures (#48), it was announced
> that the next issue would have a Don Rosa Junior Woodchucks story. Is
> that issue coming out, or was that one of the ones that was cancelled by
> the Gladstone implosion? Have the last newsstand comics come out, or are
> there a couple more to come?

It'll be in the first deluxe edition of UNCLE $CROOGE in March.

-Augie
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Daniel J Horn
Hi folks:

In the last issue of Donald Duck Adventures (#48), it was announced
that the next issue would have a Don Rosa Junior Woodchucks story. Is
that issue coming out, or was that one of the ones that was cancelled by
the Gladstone implosion? Have the last newsstand comics come out, or are
there a couple more to come?

-- Danny

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Per-Erik Malmström
I wrote:
>> A couple of years ago the Swedish Kalle Anka & C:O printed fascimile
>> editions of the first issues of KA&C:O, originaly published in 1948.
Have
>> the same thing been done in america or any other english speaking
country?

DWIGHT D. answered:
> I don't think so.

Then it might be a good idea for Gladstone to print fascimile editions of
the first issues of US, WDC, DD, etc. I'm sure many colectors would like to
buy a cheap newprinted copy of US #1, instead of paying thousands of
dollars for an original. What do you think Gary? Could it be done?

Best,
Per-Erik
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Eirik Krogh Visted
Can somebody please post (or privately email me) the infamous introduction
Geoffrey Blum wrote to the recently released Gladstone Lo$ book ? Not all
of us can afford to buy the book, but would still like to read the much
talked-about introduction.

Eirik Krogh Visted =20
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Donald D. Markstein
STEVEN ROWE --
>> "the story (true or not) being told is that Western was
>> lloking for someone to do new Duck stories because they had
>> allready printed all the Taliaferro strips and were reprinting
>> them for the second time in WDC&S."
I only have three pre-Barks issues of WDC&S, #s 11, 24
and 30. All together, they have 37 pages of Donald Duck. In the
absence of other samples, I'll take them as representative. They
usually did two daily strips per page, tho occasionally, by
cropping the art a lot, they'd do three. I didn't see any
Sundays, but from the way the "Little Hiawatha" Silly Symphonys
pages were arranged in #30 (and from standard practice in other
comics), a page per Sunday would likely be right.
Do the arithmetic yourself. Even with a very large "fudge
factor" (to accommodate the pages with three dailies), the
newspaper strips were piling up faster than they were being
reprinted. After 30 months, there were more unreprinted strips
than at the beginning.
Personally, I think they -- like other comic book
producers right about then -- were becoming aware of the
possibilities of producing a new type of comics -- longer,
unbroken narratives -- and, characteristic of the Disney
organization of the time, moved to exploit it more fully. They
continued to get value from the newspaper strips (also
characteristic of Disney -- keep exploiting the already-paid-for
stuff), running them at least as fillers right up into the 1960s
-- but when others were producing new comics material, better
suited to the new format, Disney wasn't the sort to let itself
fall behind.

DWIGHT DECKER --
>> "I wrote a review for a comics magazine at the time, called
>> "Mess of the Abbevilles" (a tortured pun on the title of a
>> novel by Thomas Hardy, "Tess of the d'Urbervilles," that
>> probably went right past everyone who read it).
Went past me, at any rate. I was trying to fit it to
"Hound of the Baskervilles".

EVERYBODY WHO ARGUES ABOUT TALLIAFERRO VS. BARKS --
The reason the Talliaferro strips Gladstone reprints
don't go over very well is, if you ask me, because we get
"saturated" reading them, not because they aren't good strips
(because they very clearly are). It's like watching Tex Avery
cartoons for two hours. They were meant to be enjoyed one at a
time. After looking at two or three in a row, you need to look
at something else for awhile, to reset your brain so you can
enjoy a few more.

Quack, Don
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