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DANIEL:

>I don't know if it lasted to the end of his career, but in the mid-50s
>the
>editor decided to save money by sending cheaper paper to the artists.
>This
>made the pencil sink into the paper and it was difficult to correct
>mistakes.

I read something like that in the Carl Barks Librairy in Color, and I
remember Barks saying that the inking was either too thin or too thick,
due to the paper. In some stories, you can see the difference of inking.
The lines are very thin in the last 10-pager stories (from WDC of the
60s). Geoffrey Blum wrote in an article that Paul Murry noticed it, and
that he didn't like this kind of inking!

You also talked about differences between original Barks drawings and
the CBL. I looked at the back cover gag of US # 14 (a photocopy) and I
could say that the title caption ("Uncle $crooge") is exactly the same
in the CBL. But, I noticed differences in the inking! Particularly about
the lines around each cases. These differences, however, are so
**small** that they are really really really trivial.

JG:

>CDs could be sold separately with say, 50 issues per CD, or as a set.

With something like 16,000 issues in the database, one need 320 CDs for
a complete database with all the scans! Who will make those scans? :-)

Francois

WOLFMAN:
> this is serious: on books from the United States or the
> Netherlands, the title always reads from the bottom to the
> top and on books from Germany and Italy, they always read
> from the top to the bottom.
> ...
> Is this like some kind of 'rule' in each country, how they print
> their titles on the side, or is it a coincidence that all my foreign
> books are the same?

Are we talking about comic books, or regular books?

If we're talking about regular books, I would I would think that American
and British books are the other way round: If you lay a book flat on a
table, front page up, jacket facing you, you can read the title on the
jacket. With French books the title will appear upside down, and with
Greek books it's a gamble, as some books are printed one way, and others
the other (makes browsing at the bookstore a pain!)
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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On Jan 7, 6:31pm, Kriton Kyrimis wrote:
> Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V98 #6
> WOLFMAN:
> > this is serious: on books from the United States or the
> > Netherlands, the title always reads from the bottom to the
> > top and on books from Germany and Italy, they always read
> > from the top to the bottom.

> Are we talking about comic books, or regular books?
>
> If we're talking about regular books, I would I would think that American
> and British books are the other way round: If you lay a book flat on a
> table, front page up, jacket facing you, you can read the title on the
> jacket. With French books the title will appear upside down, and with
> Greek books it's a gamble, as some books are printed one way, and others
> the other (makes browsing at the bookstore a pain!)

Hey, I've noticed this! With American books, the lettering on the
spine reads from top down. German books, however, are consistently
bottom-up (backwards from American practice). With other languages...
I'd have to check what I have at home, but my impression is that the
Germans are most insistent about doing it the wrong way. The French
books I have mostly follow the American practice (but there are
exceptions). Heck, there are even (rare) American exceptions, like
at least one Gladstone album (but I think that was a mistake pure and
simple). (Sorry, Gary...)

--Dwight Decker

DWIGHT:
Harvey was indeed the publisher of the Tom and Jerry reprint
comics of the early 1990s that you mention, in which some Barks stories
appeared. Knowing the full story behind them, I can tell a few
interesting tales...
They got full-color printing films on the stories directly from
some European publisher. Maybe Egmont? I know Egmont publishes T&J in
Denmark, and they (or whoever published it ten years ago or so) used
most of the Barks Barney Bears and Happy Hounds. Films and proofs to
these *do* exist.
But I digress. When Harvey ordered their materials from their
European source (maybe Egmont directly? Who knows?), that source sent
them full-color four-color printing films, with English lettering
already there (for what reason I know not). The source had a *few* Barks
stories still lettered in the original English and included them with
Harvey's order, but had re-translated the others back into English from
some foreign language, without access to the original English when they
did it. Harvey's Sid Jacobsen told me that Harvey couldn't afford to
reprocess the black printing plates, so they couldn't remove the
rewritten text in the relevant stories.
So they ran the few Barks stories they had in the original
English. Then they ran a few rewritten ones (which included non-Barksian
words like "nerd" and renamed Happy Hound as Hugo). Bad reader response
to the rewritten ones (which we didn't see in their letter columns
seeing as the columns were restricted to letters written directly to the
comics' characters!), plus the fact that Harvey had no further
*non*-rewritten Barks stories and couldn't afford to restore those to
their original form, ended Harvey's Barks reprints.
Oog.

David Gerstein
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JOHN GARVIN:

> This year the National Geographic released its entire library of
> magazines on CD Rom. [...] Wouldn't it be great to see comics publishers
> follow suit? The complete Comics and Stories, Uncle Scrooge, or Four
> Color Comics? In color, complete with covers, ads, everything? [...]
> I know I would be first in line.

Wait for your turn! I'm first! ;-)

> What do you think?

I think it's a marvelous idea!

SATU TAMS:

> [...] also an old Barks story where Donald and Gladstone race by sailing
> boats to rescue Uncle Scrooge after he's crashed by plane to the South
> Sea. (I don't know the name in english)

"Race to the South Seas", published in March of Comics 41, 1949(?). One of
the stories that never had a reprint in its original version because the
photostats are apparently lost.

Greetings,

--- Daniel

Hi!
WARNING this message deals (very little) with contents of the Rosa story "A
little something special. so skip it if you fear to be spoiled! Thank you!=
=20

DON:=20
I have only a short question (and please forgive me if you have already
answered before). I noticed in the Gladstone edition of "A little something
special", Page 7, last Panel,=20
FG says:=20
"...so I will become the richest Duck on earth"

while in the Lo$, Chapter 11, last page, panel 3 scrooge reads:
"...You are now the richest man in the world!"

Isn=B4t that a little bit inconsisitent?
And I know you said that you see the characters as people and and not as
funny animals. So do you treat duck/man just as the same, or ...?

Mike

ANNOUNCEMENT:

Finally,
the Gladstone Gander Aniversary story by Don Rosa will be printed in Norway
(probably also in Denmark and maybe Sweden (?)).
It's coming 20. January in #4 of Donald Duck & co. (Anders And & co. in Denmark).
The issue also contains a Barks story, Wintertime Wager from 1947 (W WDC 88-02).

To all of you other guys who are going to read the story soon:
**Please** remember to use spoiler alerts when you write about it on the list.

JO (Who hopes he didn't write more than ten words **completely** wrong)

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