On Jan 7, 6:19pm, Per-Erik Malmstrvm wrote:
> Subject: RE: translated from?
>
> DWIGHT D.:
> > Even the
> >native Scandihoovian writers who write for Egmont generally write their
> >scripts in English.
>
> generally?
> In the Egmont writer's guidelines you can read that "all stories must be
> written in english".
> Now you've really made me confused! Are you sure there are scripts written
> in
> another language then english?
>
Not as a regular thing, no. I have translated scripts into English for them,
though. One instance was a batch of scripts written in Swedish that may
have been bought before Byron Erickson became editor. Another instance was
a script written by an artist Egmont was keen to work with (though that
artist has since started writing scripts in English). The best way to put
it might be that the exceptions to the rule are just that: exceptions,
and if the writers' guidelines say "all stories must be written in English,"
you'd better believe it if you want to sell them stories.
--Dwight Decker
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D Decker
translated from?
Message 106 -
1998-01-07 at 20:03:32
D Decker
Disney comics Digest V98 #6
Message 107 -
1998-01-07 at 20:33:54
On Jan 7, 6:14pm, Gerstein, David DK - ECN wrote:
> Subject: RE: Disney comics Digest V98 #6
> Harvey was indeed the publisher of the Tom and Jerry reprint
> comics of the early 1990s that you mention, in which some Barks stories
> appeared. Knowing the full story behind them, I can tell a few
> interesting tales...
> They got full-color printing films on the stories directly from
> some European publisher. Maybe Egmont? I know Egmont publishes T&J in
> Denmark, and they (or whoever published it ten years ago or so) used
> most of the Barks Barney Bears and Happy Hounds. Films and proofs to
> these *do* exist.
But apparently not in the US. That was kind of my point. According to
the story I heard (from Mark Evanier, if memory serves), Western sent
everything they had (stats, films, proofs, whathaveyou) to MGM when
the comic-book contract expired and wasn't renewed, and not knowing
what else to do with the material, MGM pitched the lot. So it was thought
that the Barks Barney Bear stories could never be reprinted (or at least
not without a lot of restoration work that nobody would want to go to).
When the Harvey reprints showed up, particularly those that had been
unnecessarily relettered and even rescripted, it dawned on me what
must have happened: Western sent back to MGM all the stuff it had, but
the material sent overseas to European publishers must have still
existed. Those publishers were publishing Tom & Jerry comics pretty
much continuously and never let the license lapse, so they still had
everything on file. Still, if you had the original comics, it wouldn't
be hard to restore the original lettering to the pages (word-balloon
text is the easiest thing to stat since it's black lines on white
background), but it sounds like Harvey couldn't even afford that
modest little production step.
Anyway, thanks for posting this. It clears up quite a few details!
--Dwight Decker
> Subject: RE: Disney comics Digest V98 #6
> Harvey was indeed the publisher of the Tom and Jerry reprint
> comics of the early 1990s that you mention, in which some Barks stories
> appeared. Knowing the full story behind them, I can tell a few
> interesting tales...
> They got full-color printing films on the stories directly from
> some European publisher. Maybe Egmont? I know Egmont publishes T&J in
> Denmark, and they (or whoever published it ten years ago or so) used
> most of the Barks Barney Bears and Happy Hounds. Films and proofs to
> these *do* exist.
But apparently not in the US. That was kind of my point. According to
the story I heard (from Mark Evanier, if memory serves), Western sent
everything they had (stats, films, proofs, whathaveyou) to MGM when
the comic-book contract expired and wasn't renewed, and not knowing
what else to do with the material, MGM pitched the lot. So it was thought
that the Barks Barney Bear stories could never be reprinted (or at least
not without a lot of restoration work that nobody would want to go to).
When the Harvey reprints showed up, particularly those that had been
unnecessarily relettered and even rescripted, it dawned on me what
must have happened: Western sent back to MGM all the stuff it had, but
the material sent overseas to European publishers must have still
existed. Those publishers were publishing Tom & Jerry comics pretty
much continuously and never let the license lapse, so they still had
everything on file. Still, if you had the original comics, it wouldn't
be hard to restore the original lettering to the pages (word-balloon
text is the easiest thing to stat since it's black lines on white
background), but it sounds like Harvey couldn't even afford that
modest little production step.
Anyway, thanks for posting this. It clears up quite a few details!
--Dwight Decker
Stefan Diös
Tsamja Phe (Digest #6)
Message 108 -
1998-01-07 at 21:34:32
Doing the Swedish text, I realized that this weird name might mean
something. I did try to pronounce it and arrived at "Sam Jaffee" all right,
but I had never heard of the guy, nor could I find him in any books. I
remember asking Don for an explanation, which he of course gave me.
(Graciously and gracefully.) So I tried to put in a name that would sound
like "Sam Jaffee", but, as Wilmer suggested, just a little more Swedish-looking.
I believe stuff like this is very worthwhile, even if it may pass above the
head of virtually every reader. If as little as one reader recognizes it and
likes it, it's a good thing, as long it doesn't disturb or confuse the rest.
This is a good example. But your in-jokes shouldn't be too many or too
extreme, which sometimes is tempting when you start out as a writer or
translator...
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
something. I did try to pronounce it and arrived at "Sam Jaffee" all right,
but I had never heard of the guy, nor could I find him in any books. I
remember asking Don for an explanation, which he of course gave me.
(Graciously and gracefully.) So I tried to put in a name that would sound
like "Sam Jaffee", but, as Wilmer suggested, just a little more Swedish-looking.
I believe stuff like this is very worthwhile, even if it may pass above the
head of virtually every reader. If as little as one reader recognizes it and
likes it, it's a good thing, as long it doesn't disturb or confuse the rest.
This is a good example. But your in-jokes shouldn't be too many or too
extreme, which sometimes is tempting when you start out as a writer or
translator...
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
RHODE
Facsimile reprints
Message 109 -
1998-01-07 at 22:27:11
jgarvin said:
"This year the National Geographic released its entire library of
magazines on CD Rom. Every page of every issue (including photos,
paintings, maps, articles, etc.) from 1888 to this year. It even has a
searchable data base, cross referenced, bookmarks, etc. Every page has
been scanned in using a high quality, hi-res scanner. It's incredible.
The whole thing is on 30 CD roms.
Wouldn't it be great to see comics publishers follow suit? The complete
Comics and Stories, Uncle Scrooge, or Four Color Comics? In color,
complete with covers, ads, everything? Plus, it could come with a
searchable database, index, translations, etc Without the high cost of
printing, this could probably be a very profitable venture for some
publisher (like Gladstone!) And affordable (relatively)! The entire
Geographic set was about $150."
My wife works for Geographic (as they phrase it) and this was a pretty
expensive project. Of course, they had to worry about photographic rights
since they reduced their inhouse staff and instead rely on contractors. I
doubt they'll recover their real costs on it anytime soon, but since
they're a partly non-profit organization, they might not be worrying about
it. This might have been done by one of their recent for-profit spinoffs,
but even so, notwithstanding accounting practices, I still don't think it's
a money-maker. If anyone really cares, I'll try to find out.
Dwight and others were discussing shooting facsimiles straight out of the
comic. The Smithsonian did that with their reprint editions of comic books
and strips and the pages look strange. The color dots don't blend well the
second time around. Maybe modern technology has improved this though.
Mike Rhode
speaking for myself
"This year the National Geographic released its entire library of
magazines on CD Rom. Every page of every issue (including photos,
paintings, maps, articles, etc.) from 1888 to this year. It even has a
searchable data base, cross referenced, bookmarks, etc. Every page has
been scanned in using a high quality, hi-res scanner. It's incredible.
The whole thing is on 30 CD roms.
Wouldn't it be great to see comics publishers follow suit? The complete
Comics and Stories, Uncle Scrooge, or Four Color Comics? In color,
complete with covers, ads, everything? Plus, it could come with a
searchable database, index, translations, etc Without the high cost of
printing, this could probably be a very profitable venture for some
publisher (like Gladstone!) And affordable (relatively)! The entire
Geographic set was about $150."
My wife works for Geographic (as they phrase it) and this was a pretty
expensive project. Of course, they had to worry about photographic rights
since they reduced their inhouse staff and instead rely on contractors. I
doubt they'll recover their real costs on it anytime soon, but since
they're a partly non-profit organization, they might not be worrying about
it. This might have been done by one of their recent for-profit spinoffs,
but even so, notwithstanding accounting practices, I still don't think it's
a money-maker. If anyone really cares, I'll try to find out.
Dwight and others were discussing shooting facsimiles straight out of the
comic. The Smithsonian did that with their reprint editions of comic books
and strips and the pages look strange. The color dots don't blend well the
second time around. Maybe modern technology has improved this though.
Mike Rhode
speaking for myself
D Decker
Tsamja Phe (Digest #6)
Message 110 -
1998-01-07 at 22:44:31
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On Jan 7, 8:34pm, Stefan Diös wrote:
> Subject: Re: Tsamja Phe (Digest #6)
> But your in-jokes shouldn't be too many or too
> extreme, which sometimes is tempting when you start out as a writer or
> translator...
>
Been there, done that. Years ago, I was writing a review of a
book about Betty Page, the famous naked model. For the title
of my review, I thought of an obscure old Warner Brothers
cartoon, "Page Miss Glory" (in context, the word "page" in
the title is a verb -- the cartoon is an art deco dream of
a hotel bellhop about a famous movie star called "Miss Glory"),
so the title I used was "Page Miss Betty." Unfortunately, I
didn't remember to tell the editor what I was doing, so in
print the title came out as "Page, Miss Betty" as though he
thought I were simply stating her last name first for no
particularly reason that made any sense whatsoever. Lesson
learned: don't be too obscure or too clever for your own good.
The rule I've learned to use is that in-jokes only a few will
understand usually aren't worth the trouble. If you do yield
to temptation, it shouldn't be something that will get you fired
if you're found out (e.g., slipping phallic symbols into promotional
artwork for Disney movies). And it shouldn't be something that will
be obvious to everyone that there's a joke or something here even
if only a few people actually understand what it is. Odd turns of
phrase, conspicuously unusual names, emphasis of something that
without the joke normally wouldn't be emphasized -- all these are
giveaways that something fishy is going on, and probably just annoy
readers who aren't in on the joke. Calling a camel driver in a
Donald Duck story "Kheno ben Rhosa" was about as far as I ever
took it translating for Gladstone, thinking that my mock-Arabic
name wouldn't be too odd-sounding for the casual reader and that
most of the fans would catch the reference to Don R. anyway.
--Dwight Decker
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On Jan 7, 8:34pm, Stefan Diös wrote:
> Subject: Re: Tsamja Phe (Digest #6)
> But your in-jokes shouldn't be too many or too
> extreme, which sometimes is tempting when you start out as a writer or
> translator...
>
Been there, done that. Years ago, I was writing a review of a
book about Betty Page, the famous naked model. For the title
of my review, I thought of an obscure old Warner Brothers
cartoon, "Page Miss Glory" (in context, the word "page" in
the title is a verb -- the cartoon is an art deco dream of
a hotel bellhop about a famous movie star called "Miss Glory"),
so the title I used was "Page Miss Betty." Unfortunately, I
didn't remember to tell the editor what I was doing, so in
print the title came out as "Page, Miss Betty" as though he
thought I were simply stating her last name first for no
particularly reason that made any sense whatsoever. Lesson
learned: don't be too obscure or too clever for your own good.
The rule I've learned to use is that in-jokes only a few will
understand usually aren't worth the trouble. If you do yield
to temptation, it shouldn't be something that will get you fired
if you're found out (e.g., slipping phallic symbols into promotional
artwork for Disney movies). And it shouldn't be something that will
be obvious to everyone that there's a joke or something here even
if only a few people actually understand what it is. Odd turns of
phrase, conspicuously unusual names, emphasis of something that
without the joke normally wouldn't be emphasized -- all these are
giveaways that something fishy is going on, and probably just annoy
readers who aren't in on the joke. Calling a camel driver in a
Donald Duck story "Kheno ben Rhosa" was about as far as I ever
took it translating for Gladstone, thinking that my mock-Arabic
name wouldn't be too odd-sounding for the casual reader and that
most of the fans would catch the reference to Don R. anyway.
--Dwight Decker
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Francois Willot
Picsou
Message 111 -
1998-01-07 at 22:45:42
ALL:
The last Picsou issue contains two Rosa stories, "Attack of the Hideous
Space Varmints" and "Well-Educated Duck" (H 85218). The editors said it
is the first pub. of the one-part version of "Attack of the HSV" in the
world! They're probably right, but this version only has a few more cm^2
of drawings (which were replaced by texts in the Gladstone publication).
They also said that H 85218 was the first of a series of "old" Don Rosa
stories published long ago in "Mickey" that they're going to publish. It
was in fact the *only* Rosa story they never published, and that's why
they started by this one! (except the Daisy's birthday 3-pager story
that never appeared in France -- because an editor needs a special
occasion for this one).
But all this is not very important, I only wanted to say that the next
issue of "Picsou" will feature a special "Don Rosa surprise". I can't
say more now...
Francois
The last Picsou issue contains two Rosa stories, "Attack of the Hideous
Space Varmints" and "Well-Educated Duck" (H 85218). The editors said it
is the first pub. of the one-part version of "Attack of the HSV" in the
world! They're probably right, but this version only has a few more cm^2
of drawings (which were replaced by texts in the Gladstone publication).
They also said that H 85218 was the first of a series of "old" Don Rosa
stories published long ago in "Mickey" that they're going to publish. It
was in fact the *only* Rosa story they never published, and that's why
they started by this one! (except the Daisy's birthday 3-pager story
that never appeared in France -- because an editor needs a special
occasion for this one).
But all this is not very important, I only wanted to say that the next
issue of "Picsou" will feature a special "Don Rosa surprise". I can't
say more now...
Francois
Dominik Altevogt
AW: Disney comics Digest V98 #6
Message 112 -
1998-01-07 at 22:52:01
From: Eirik Krogh Visted <(Email removed)>
> Can somebody please post (or privately email me) the infamous introduction
> Geoffrey Blum wrote to the recently released Gladstone Lo$ book ? Not all
> of us can afford to buy the book, but would still like to read the much
> talked-about introduction.
I am also interested in that article !!!
Dominik Altevogt ,,,,,
(Email removed) (o o)
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> Can somebody please post (or privately email me) the infamous introduction
> Geoffrey Blum wrote to the recently released Gladstone Lo$ book ? Not all
> of us can afford to buy the book, but would still like to read the much
> talked-about introduction.
I am also interested in that article !!!
Dominik Altevogt ,,,,,
(Email removed) (o o)
----------------oOO--(_)--OOo-----------------
PAULO CEZAR LOPES BARRETO,BARRETO
Heritage/Mickey.br
Message 113 -
1998-01-07 at 23:30:06
Greetings, ducklings! :-)
A few questions to start off our new year's scheduled flame-throwing:
U$ HERITAGE - I may be redundant, for I haven't read "Lo$" yet (By the
way, where's Brazilian "Lo$", folks?), but this issue really puzzles me:
a) Who are Scrooge's actual heirs, if any?
b) Is there a "canonical" basis for U$'s occasional threat to
disinheirit Donald (so frequent in Italian stories, for one)?
c) I've heard somewhere (correct me if I'm wrong): according to
Brazilian law, legitimate and/or natural heirs can't be disinheirited
(which never disturbed the "Quaaaack! Follow me to the fabulous gold
mines in Antarctica or be disinheirited!"-type line in Brazilian
editions) -- if other countries have similar laws, has been there some
deliberate effort to circunvent it in translation?
d) Is there a Scrooge's will (secret or disclosed in full/partially)?
e) In a lot of stories we can feel Donald is being overworked by
Scrooge so as the old duck can't be displeased and Donald can grant
his share in his uncle's heritage. However, I've read as S-coded story
where Scrooge declares to make Grandma Duck his sole heir (thus
disfavoring Donald) in gratitude for her wonderful food. In another
story, Donald tries to borrow Scrooge some money, U$ turns him down,
an angry DD says he'd rather ask Rockerduck, U$ lets DD do it -- no
heritage threats involved whatsoever! Do you remember any other
relevant inconsistencies on who will be swimming in Scrooge's money
after his death?
MICKEY IN BRAZIL -- Is it true that Brazilian "Mickey" title has been
cancelled? I haven't seen any "Mickey" around for some time.
[]s, P.C.Barreto
A few questions to start off our new year's scheduled flame-throwing:
U$ HERITAGE - I may be redundant, for I haven't read "Lo$" yet (By the
way, where's Brazilian "Lo$", folks?), but this issue really puzzles me:
a) Who are Scrooge's actual heirs, if any?
b) Is there a "canonical" basis for U$'s occasional threat to
disinheirit Donald (so frequent in Italian stories, for one)?
c) I've heard somewhere (correct me if I'm wrong): according to
Brazilian law, legitimate and/or natural heirs can't be disinheirited
(which never disturbed the "Quaaaack! Follow me to the fabulous gold
mines in Antarctica or be disinheirited!"-type line in Brazilian
editions) -- if other countries have similar laws, has been there some
deliberate effort to circunvent it in translation?
d) Is there a Scrooge's will (secret or disclosed in full/partially)?
e) In a lot of stories we can feel Donald is being overworked by
Scrooge so as the old duck can't be displeased and Donald can grant
his share in his uncle's heritage. However, I've read as S-coded story
where Scrooge declares to make Grandma Duck his sole heir (thus
disfavoring Donald) in gratitude for her wonderful food. In another
story, Donald tries to borrow Scrooge some money, U$ turns him down,
an angry DD says he'd rather ask Rockerduck, U$ lets DD do it -- no
heritage threats involved whatsoever! Do you remember any other
relevant inconsistencies on who will be swimming in Scrooge's money
after his death?
MICKEY IN BRAZIL -- Is it true that Brazilian "Mickey" title has been
cancelled? I haven't seen any "Mickey" around for some time.
[]s, P.C.Barreto
Francois Willot
Translations
Message 114 -
1998-01-07 at 23:51:08
HARRY:
>Generally (!) the Dutch stories are written in Dutch. When the
>are to be drawn by a Spanish studio, the script is translated into
>Spanish by the Dutch editors.
I assume you're talking about the Comicup studio. In France, they sent
the script in French, with no Spanish translation at all! (I think
someone in Barcelona could translate the material from French to
Spanish. The art usually is better when the artist could understand the
story :-).
DWIGHT DECKER, KRITON KYRIMIS:
>Are we talking about comic books, or regular books?
>
>If we're talking about regular books, I would I would think that
>American
>and British books are the other way round: If you lay a book flat on a
>table, front page up, jacket facing you, you can read the title on the
>jacket. With French books the title will appear upside down
Maybe this is generally the case in France, but both possibilities often
occure. Publishers just don't know (or don't care) about it, and they're
right, IMO. It's like typography: in a lot of publications, there are no
space before the ":", "?", "!" and the ";" while you're supposed to put
one in French. In a lot of books, the words in titles all have capital
letters, but only a few is allowed in French. There are many complicate
rules, but I personnally think that following them is a waste of time,
and that nobody should care about that!
JO:
>Finally,
>the Gladstone Gander Aniversary story by Don Rosa will be printed in
>Norway
>(probably also in Denmark and maybe Sweden (?)).
>It's coming 20. January in #4 of Donald Duck & co. (Anders And & co. in
>Denmark).
>The issue also contains a Barks story, Wintertime Wager from 1947 (W
>WDC 88-02).
And "T:The Last Lords of El Dorado" (30 pages?) will be published just
after, around issue 98-07.
Francois
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #7
****************************************
>Generally (!) the Dutch stories are written in Dutch. When the
>are to be drawn by a Spanish studio, the script is translated into
>Spanish by the Dutch editors.
I assume you're talking about the Comicup studio. In France, they sent
the script in French, with no Spanish translation at all! (I think
someone in Barcelona could translate the material from French to
Spanish. The art usually is better when the artist could understand the
story :-).
DWIGHT DECKER, KRITON KYRIMIS:
>Are we talking about comic books, or regular books?
>
>If we're talking about regular books, I would I would think that
>American
>and British books are the other way round: If you lay a book flat on a
>table, front page up, jacket facing you, you can read the title on the
>jacket. With French books the title will appear upside down
Maybe this is generally the case in France, but both possibilities often
occure. Publishers just don't know (or don't care) about it, and they're
right, IMO. It's like typography: in a lot of publications, there are no
space before the ":", "?", "!" and the ";" while you're supposed to put
one in French. In a lot of books, the words in titles all have capital
letters, but only a few is allowed in French. There are many complicate
rules, but I personnally think that following them is a waste of time,
and that nobody should care about that!
JO:
>Finally,
>the Gladstone Gander Aniversary story by Don Rosa will be printed in
>Norway
>(probably also in Denmark and maybe Sweden (?)).
>It's coming 20. January in #4 of Donald Duck & co. (Anders And & co. in
>Denmark).
>The issue also contains a Barks story, Wintertime Wager from 1947 (W
>WDC 88-02).
And "T:The Last Lords of El Dorado" (30 pages?) will be published just
after, around issue 98-07.
Francois
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #7
****************************************
Mattias Hallin
Picsou
Message 115 -
1998-01-08 at 00:07:19
At 22.45 1998-01-07, Francois Willot wrote:
>But all this is not very important, I only wanted to say that the next
>issue of "Picsou" will feature a special "Don Rosa surprise". I can't
>say more now...
Hmmm... sounds interesting! Since my move to Belgium, and while waiting to
start learning French (I mean, taking lessons) I've started educating
myself a wee bit by reading Picsou Magazine. That I've been able to read
(well, sort of -- I never studied any French before) several Rosa-stories I
had not yet gotten around to is certainly a treat of a bonus! :-)
I suppose the next issue is due any day now? I checked the magazine rack
at the Delhaize supermarket only this evening, but they still just had the
December issue. Well, not "just", as that one contains both "No=EBl sur le
Mont Ours", "Retour au Klondike" and (yes!) "Un petit cadeau tr=E8s sp=E9cia=
l"!
Yummy!!!
/Mattias
*** Mattias Hallin ** Brussels ** Belgium ** <(Email removed)> ***
* *
* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************* A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************
>But all this is not very important, I only wanted to say that the next
>issue of "Picsou" will feature a special "Don Rosa surprise". I can't
>say more now...
Hmmm... sounds interesting! Since my move to Belgium, and while waiting to
start learning French (I mean, taking lessons) I've started educating
myself a wee bit by reading Picsou Magazine. That I've been able to read
(well, sort of -- I never studied any French before) several Rosa-stories I
had not yet gotten around to is certainly a treat of a bonus! :-)
I suppose the next issue is due any day now? I checked the magazine rack
at the Delhaize supermarket only this evening, but they still just had the
December issue. Well, not "just", as that one contains both "No=EBl sur le
Mont Ours", "Retour au Klondike" and (yes!) "Un petit cadeau tr=E8s sp=E9cia=
l"!
Yummy!!!
/Mattias
*** Mattias Hallin ** Brussels ** Belgium ** <(Email removed)> ***
* *
* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************* A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************
Matthew R. Sommer
"A Little Something Special"????
Message 116 -
1998-01-08 at 02:09:02
hey guys
I know this isnt a marketplace, but does ANYONE out there have an extra
copy of THE ADVENTUROUS $CROOGE MCDUCK #2 (containing the Rosa 50th
anniv. story) that they would be willing to sell to me for cover price?
I have visited every comic book store in the milwaukee, WI area, and
have seen every Gladstone title EXCEPT the above mentioned one!! I dont
quite understand this... Were people buying multiples? The comic shops
not ordering them? Did our orders just get chopped or what?? Arg...!!
Anyone else have trouble finding this issue?
in other matters, I'm looking forward to march and the first month of
NEW format Gladstone titles... I won't mind paying a little extra for
the giant sized U$, provided we get lots of quality stories...(PLEASE,
no serializing the popular stuff, huh?). I think it'd be kinda neat to
see some low cost reprint volumes similar to Marvel Comics "Essential"
series... where you get a good 300-500pp of story in B&W for $13...
Although i already have most of the Barks stuff in color... oh well!
thanks for your time...
-matt-
I know this isnt a marketplace, but does ANYONE out there have an extra
copy of THE ADVENTUROUS $CROOGE MCDUCK #2 (containing the Rosa 50th
anniv. story) that they would be willing to sell to me for cover price?
I have visited every comic book store in the milwaukee, WI area, and
have seen every Gladstone title EXCEPT the above mentioned one!! I dont
quite understand this... Were people buying multiples? The comic shops
not ordering them? Did our orders just get chopped or what?? Arg...!!
Anyone else have trouble finding this issue?
in other matters, I'm looking forward to march and the first month of
NEW format Gladstone titles... I won't mind paying a little extra for
the giant sized U$, provided we get lots of quality stories...(PLEASE,
no serializing the popular stuff, huh?). I think it'd be kinda neat to
see some low cost reprint volumes similar to Marvel Comics "Essential"
series... where you get a good 300-500pp of story in B&W for $13...
Although i already have most of the Barks stuff in color... oh well!
thanks for your time...
-matt-
SRoweCanoe
Disney comics Digest V98 #6
Message 117 -
1998-01-08 at 04:24:42
Stefan:
Don't worry, we all think that Don Rosa is graceful.
Dwight Decker;
I heard the sme story that you did regarding Western and it's large pile of
stats. I suspect that we heard this story from Mark Evanier, and I suspect
it's true. Look at the amount of Barks stories available - most of them!
Marvel was missing stats from the 1960s, and DC from the 50s. Sure, Western
didn't have all their stats - but they have a heck of alot more than some of
the others.
Steven Rowe
Don't worry, we all think that Don Rosa is graceful.
Dwight Decker;
I heard the sme story that you did regarding Western and it's large pile of
stats. I suspect that we heard this story from Mark Evanier, and I suspect
it's true. Look at the amount of Barks stories available - most of them!
Marvel was missing stats from the 1960s, and DC from the 50s. Sure, Western
didn't have all their stats - but they have a heck of alot more than some of
the others.
Steven Rowe
Katie Sullivan
Answers from the Goldie freak
Message 118 -
1998-01-08 at 06:25:07
I'll try to answer this...
> a) Who are Scrooge's actual heirs, if any?
At least in American comics, Huey, Dewey and Louie are usually implied,
although Donald is too, so I guess I really don't know the answer. In
Lo$, Scrooge has two sisters, one of whom is Donald's mother. The other
has never been said to have children. Scrooge's two uncles never
married, so unless Goldie knows something we don't ;-) Donald and
the triplets are the next in line.
> d) Is there a Scrooge's will (secret or disclosed in
full/partially)?
Never been mentioned, but what a story that would make! (I wonder what
he'd leave to Goldie...) Am I obsessed with her? Probably, but so
what? ;-)
> However, I've read as S-coded story where Scrooge declares to make
Grandma Duck >his sole heir (thus disfavoring Donald) in gratitude for
her wonderful food.
At least in American comics and the Rosa family tree, Grandma duck is no
blood relation to Scrooge. She's Donald's father's mother. And as for
the food...recall "King of the Klondike" in Lo$... "Square meals are
for softies!"
***Katie Sullivan***
Self-proclaimed Glittering Goldie fanatic
alias Miss Quackfaster
http://www.execpc.com/~sulliva1/scrooge.html
(Email removed)
"Boy, podner, you shore ain't been around!" ~ From Barks' "Land
Beneath the Ground"
> a) Who are Scrooge's actual heirs, if any?
At least in American comics, Huey, Dewey and Louie are usually implied,
although Donald is too, so I guess I really don't know the answer. In
Lo$, Scrooge has two sisters, one of whom is Donald's mother. The other
has never been said to have children. Scrooge's two uncles never
married, so unless Goldie knows something we don't ;-) Donald and
the triplets are the next in line.
> d) Is there a Scrooge's will (secret or disclosed in
full/partially)?
Never been mentioned, but what a story that would make! (I wonder what
he'd leave to Goldie...) Am I obsessed with her? Probably, but so
what? ;-)
> However, I've read as S-coded story where Scrooge declares to make
Grandma Duck >his sole heir (thus disfavoring Donald) in gratitude for
her wonderful food.
At least in American comics and the Rosa family tree, Grandma duck is no
blood relation to Scrooge. She's Donald's father's mother. And as for
the food...recall "King of the Klondike" in Lo$... "Square meals are
for softies!"
***Katie Sullivan***
Self-proclaimed Glittering Goldie fanatic
alias Miss Quackfaster
http://www.execpc.com/~sulliva1/scrooge.html
(Email removed)
"Boy, podner, you shore ain't been around!" ~ From Barks' "Land
Beneath the Ground"
Jakob Soederbaum
"Number 401"
Message 119 -
1998-01-08 at 08:01:12
Hi!
Can someone please explain to me what happened to the 4 billion dollars
Donald won in "Number 401" (WDC 607) by William van Horn? In the morning,
Donald opens his mail and finds out he's won this fantastic amount of
money, and he's also been invited to a party. At first, he doesn't
realize what he's holding in his hands, but suddenly he gets a shock as
he reads the _invitation_ again - this is what he's been dreaming of for
the past few pages! I thought the 4 billion dollars would return later
in the story, with a letter that he'd failed to get them before the
deadline or something because of too much else to think of that day.
But they didn't. What on earth became of the money, and why include
sucha thing in a 10-pager unless you plan on using it again?
And why are there so many typos in van Horn's stories? They're *supposed*
to be read by kids (aren't they?), and typos in even Disney comic books
is most likely to result in a disaster: how can the people at Gladstone
think any parents *ever* will consider buying Disney comic books if
they're full of typos??
Good night,
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Can someone please explain to me what happened to the 4 billion dollars
Donald won in "Number 401" (WDC 607) by William van Horn? In the morning,
Donald opens his mail and finds out he's won this fantastic amount of
money, and he's also been invited to a party. At first, he doesn't
realize what he's holding in his hands, but suddenly he gets a shock as
he reads the _invitation_ again - this is what he's been dreaming of for
the past few pages! I thought the 4 billion dollars would return later
in the story, with a letter that he'd failed to get them before the
deadline or something because of too much else to think of that day.
But they didn't. What on earth became of the money, and why include
sucha thing in a 10-pager unless you plan on using it again?
And why are there so many typos in van Horn's stories? They're *supposed*
to be read by kids (aren't they?), and typos in even Disney comic books
is most likely to result in a disaster: how can the people at Gladstone
think any parents *ever* will consider buying Disney comic books if
they're full of typos??
Good night,
---
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* E-mail: (Email removed) *
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Frank Fabian
Book spine titles
Message 120 -
1998-01-08 at 08:42:30
ARTHUR wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Barely one week into the new year and this will already
>be the most stupid question asked in 1998, but ... I'm gonna ask it
>anyway. I just found this out myself! I was looking at some books
>here and I noticed that every country has it's own way of printing
>the title of the book on it's side. No, no, don't stop reading ...
>this is serious: on books from the United States or the
>Netherlands, the title always reads from the bottom to the
>top and on books from Germany and Italy, they always read
>from the top to the bottom.
>
>...
>Impressive, he?
>
>Is this like some kind of 'rule' in each country, how they print
>their titles on the side, or is it a coincidence that all my foreign
>books are the same?
>
To my knowledge, there isn't any rule, more of a tradition. But the German
tradition is exactly opposite to what you have been telling, i.e., the
title on the book's spine is traditionally printed from bottom to top. And
the Anglo-American tradition is also exactly opposite, i.e., from top to
bottom, making the spine title easily readable when a book is lying on its
back. (I just checked in the reading room of the library I work at :=)
When some German publishers were forced into exile during the Nazi era,
they continued to publish books abroad, but adopted the Anglo-American
tradition of spine titles and continued to print them top-bottom even after
they had returned to Germany. Also, for reasons of internationality I
suppose, German scientific publishers tend to print their spine titles that
way, on their English-language titles in any case, but also for
German-language titles. So in German book shelves you can find a merry
confusion of standards, quite often giving me a cramp in the neck while
reading the spine titles because I have to turn my head the other way
incessantly.
I'm not entirely sure about other countries, but a quick check in the
reading room revealed that France and Spain seem to follow the "German"
tradition, while Italy, the Netherlands and the Scandinavian countries
follow the "Anglo-American" tradition. Perhaps other list members can
confirm or deny this.
Best regards, Frank
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Wuerttembergische Landesbibliothek Frank Fabian
Abt. Katalogisierung Periodika (KaP) Tel.: +49 711/212- 4383
Konrad-Adenauer-Str. 8 / PF 10 54 41 Fax.: +49 711/212-4437
70173 Stuttgart / 70047 Stuttgart (Email removed)
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>Hi!
>
>Barely one week into the new year and this will already
>be the most stupid question asked in 1998, but ... I'm gonna ask it
>anyway. I just found this out myself! I was looking at some books
>here and I noticed that every country has it's own way of printing
>the title of the book on it's side. No, no, don't stop reading ...
>this is serious: on books from the United States or the
>Netherlands, the title always reads from the bottom to the
>top and on books from Germany and Italy, they always read
>from the top to the bottom.
>
>...
>Impressive, he?
>
>Is this like some kind of 'rule' in each country, how they print
>their titles on the side, or is it a coincidence that all my foreign
>books are the same?
>
To my knowledge, there isn't any rule, more of a tradition. But the German
tradition is exactly opposite to what you have been telling, i.e., the
title on the book's spine is traditionally printed from bottom to top. And
the Anglo-American tradition is also exactly opposite, i.e., from top to
bottom, making the spine title easily readable when a book is lying on its
back. (I just checked in the reading room of the library I work at :=)
When some German publishers were forced into exile during the Nazi era,
they continued to publish books abroad, but adopted the Anglo-American
tradition of spine titles and continued to print them top-bottom even after
they had returned to Germany. Also, for reasons of internationality I
suppose, German scientific publishers tend to print their spine titles that
way, on their English-language titles in any case, but also for
German-language titles. So in German book shelves you can find a merry
confusion of standards, quite often giving me a cramp in the neck while
reading the spine titles because I have to turn my head the other way
incessantly.
I'm not entirely sure about other countries, but a quick check in the
reading room revealed that France and Spain seem to follow the "German"
tradition, while Italy, the Netherlands and the Scandinavian countries
follow the "Anglo-American" tradition. Perhaps other list members can
confirm or deny this.
Best regards, Frank
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*******
Wuerttembergische Landesbibliothek Frank Fabian
Abt. Katalogisierung Periodika (KaP) Tel.: +49 711/212- 4383
Konrad-Adenauer-Str. 8 / PF 10 54 41 Fax.: +49 711/212-4437
70173 Stuttgart / 70047 Stuttgart (Email removed)
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