I've put on-line the scans of the censored page in I TL 577-A.
They're not linked yet, so just use these URLS:
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/Censored/GG/BGG0.jpg
is the FULL censored page (b/w from the reprint in "Grandi Classici Disney" #2).
The most interesting panels are enlarged here:
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/Censored/GG/BGG1.jpg
is the scene where Brigitta watches the encounter between $crooge and GG.
Very touching! But still b/w because it's from GCD #2. Then come
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/Censored/GG/BGG2.jpg
and
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/Censored/GG/BGG3.jpg
which are IN COLOUR because they were reprinted on "Zio Paperone".
These scans will STAY there because they rightly belong to a censorship
subpage; but of course I'll have to write some *.html notes to explain
what's going on.
Oh, well, as soon as I have time.... ;-)
Marco
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Marco Barlotti
When Brigitta met GG... at last on the Web!!!
Message 391 -
1998-01-23 at 16:56:31
PAULO CEZAR LOPES BARRETO,BARRETO
Hero League
Message 392 -
1998-01-23 at 17:49:20
RICH:
Congratulations for your great job on the WWW page!
>> The first League-like story was published in "Tio Patinhas", 1st. sem.
> 1979 (I can check the exact month if necessary)...[spoiler ommited]...
> I'm probably in the minority here, but I wish there was a way to see
this story. [hint, hint, anyone?] ;-)
I'm not sure if it has been published elsewhere, but I can do my best
to send you a scanned copy (or even a fine hardcopy). The translation
is not *so* essential, I think (especially after my previous spoiler...).
The story is only average, but displays an unusual spoof on the
growing DC/Marvel super-hero "League" trend, associated with the
stardom then enjoyed by Superman (who would dare guessing the almighty
Superman could be killed...). I guess it's quite outdated now, for it
includes an unusual appearance of the virtually retired Red Wasp (Who
is Red Wasp?, I asked myself when reading the story for the first
time), some hard-to-find bad guys and the formerly popular newsroom
scene. Now I think the regular super-hero fare has become so absurd,
we can't even guess how Disney could parody it.
[]s
P.C.Barreto
(Email removed)
Congratulations for your great job on the WWW page!
>> The first League-like story was published in "Tio Patinhas", 1st. sem.
> 1979 (I can check the exact month if necessary)...[spoiler ommited]...
> I'm probably in the minority here, but I wish there was a way to see
this story. [hint, hint, anyone?] ;-)
I'm not sure if it has been published elsewhere, but I can do my best
to send you a scanned copy (or even a fine hardcopy). The translation
is not *so* essential, I think (especially after my previous spoiler...).
The story is only average, but displays an unusual spoof on the
growing DC/Marvel super-hero "League" trend, associated with the
stardom then enjoyed by Superman (who would dare guessing the almighty
Superman could be killed...). I guess it's quite outdated now, for it
includes an unusual appearance of the virtually retired Red Wasp (Who
is Red Wasp?, I asked myself when reading the story for the first
time), some hard-to-find bad guys and the formerly popular newsroom
scene. Now I think the regular super-hero fare has become so absurd,
we can't even guess how Disney could parody it.
[]s
P.C.Barreto
(Email removed)
PAULO CEZAR LOPES BARRETO,BARRETO
Does she or doesn't she? / Duckburg Nation
Message 393 -
1998-01-23 at 17:56:50
Greetings, Ducklings...
DON MARKSTEIN:
The one reference to Calisota is not enough to make it canonical, so
we can keep speculating over and over... :-)
At least we can be sure Calisota is in the northern hemisphere, for
Christmas always occurs in winter (unless some Brazilian stories
decided to do otherwise, but I don't have any evidence). And for the
climate, I bet Duckburg is located on a quite high latitude: although
it's (actually, but not frequently shown as) a seaside town,
Duckburgers usually go elsewhere for better, warmer beach resorts;
Duckburgers also use to endure severe winters.
I remember a '70s story [a volcano arises under the money bin, melts
all the cash, molten gold goes down into a cave, Beagle Boys run for
it etc. etc.] in which Duckburg is vaguely pointed as being part of
North America, namely, around U.S. West Coast. Beyond the volcanic
activity, *this* Duckburg *******LITTLE SPOILER!******* is on an oil
field *****END SPOILER*******. California, probably. In "Blood in
Duckburg" the city *is* in California, virtually hidden, accessible
via one of the 89178937723 freeway exits in the Golden State.
I'm not sure if Duckburg is the nation's capital or there's an actual
undisclosed capital over Duckburg, Goosetown etc. Even though, we can
see no presidents, no monarchs, no prime ministers, no dictators, no
whoever. That's food for thought, really...
KRITON (on "Blood in Duckburg"):
>> U$ secretly
>> makes a will leaving all his assets to Goldie. Rockerduck manages to
>> destroy the will, thus leaving DD as U$'s sole heir by default. ...
that's a long story. :-)
> Now *that's* a story! Too bad that the bit about leaving all his assets
> to Goldie (which would imply that there had been something between them)
> will make such a story unprintable in the US!
I'm glad I didn't have to worry about that when a few people read and
enjoyed the yet-incomplete story: in my own version, Duckburg *is* in
California, Ducks are immune to human guns and vice versa (among other
magical effects related with Homo Sapiens presence in Duckburg),
Police corruption is widespread (which partially explains why
non-Beagle-Boys bad guys don't try to touch U$'s fortune), Rockerduck
and Flintheart become partners and the Beagle Boys have deeper reasons
(other than plainly getting the $$$$$ for themselves) for taking U$'s
assets away from the Ducks' hands... Actually, I'm afraid no one
would dare publishing such story.
WILMER:
> I imagine Goldie ... profiting from
the goings-on in the dance hall but not taking an active role (at
least not any more, although she may in fact have worked her way up
though the ranks to a job in management).
I think there's a 99.9% chance to be the case... which can't be
grounds to demean Goldie. She did what she thought she had to do to
make a living in Yukon, didn't she? And if Scrooge really cares for
Goldie, what makes us think he really cares for whatever she could
have done with Dawson's male population?
[]s
P.C.Barreto
(Email removed)
DON MARKSTEIN:
The one reference to Calisota is not enough to make it canonical, so
we can keep speculating over and over... :-)
At least we can be sure Calisota is in the northern hemisphere, for
Christmas always occurs in winter (unless some Brazilian stories
decided to do otherwise, but I don't have any evidence). And for the
climate, I bet Duckburg is located on a quite high latitude: although
it's (actually, but not frequently shown as) a seaside town,
Duckburgers usually go elsewhere for better, warmer beach resorts;
Duckburgers also use to endure severe winters.
I remember a '70s story [a volcano arises under the money bin, melts
all the cash, molten gold goes down into a cave, Beagle Boys run for
it etc. etc.] in which Duckburg is vaguely pointed as being part of
North America, namely, around U.S. West Coast. Beyond the volcanic
activity, *this* Duckburg *******LITTLE SPOILER!******* is on an oil
field *****END SPOILER*******. California, probably. In "Blood in
Duckburg" the city *is* in California, virtually hidden, accessible
via one of the 89178937723 freeway exits in the Golden State.
I'm not sure if Duckburg is the nation's capital or there's an actual
undisclosed capital over Duckburg, Goosetown etc. Even though, we can
see no presidents, no monarchs, no prime ministers, no dictators, no
whoever. That's food for thought, really...
KRITON (on "Blood in Duckburg"):
>> U$ secretly
>> makes a will leaving all his assets to Goldie. Rockerduck manages to
>> destroy the will, thus leaving DD as U$'s sole heir by default. ...
that's a long story. :-)
> Now *that's* a story! Too bad that the bit about leaving all his assets
> to Goldie (which would imply that there had been something between them)
> will make such a story unprintable in the US!
I'm glad I didn't have to worry about that when a few people read and
enjoyed the yet-incomplete story: in my own version, Duckburg *is* in
California, Ducks are immune to human guns and vice versa (among other
magical effects related with Homo Sapiens presence in Duckburg),
Police corruption is widespread (which partially explains why
non-Beagle-Boys bad guys don't try to touch U$'s fortune), Rockerduck
and Flintheart become partners and the Beagle Boys have deeper reasons
(other than plainly getting the $$$$$ for themselves) for taking U$'s
assets away from the Ducks' hands... Actually, I'm afraid no one
would dare publishing such story.
WILMER:
> I imagine Goldie ... profiting from
the goings-on in the dance hall but not taking an active role (at
least not any more, although she may in fact have worked her way up
though the ranks to a job in management).
I think there's a 99.9% chance to be the case... which can't be
grounds to demean Goldie. She did what she thought she had to do to
make a living in Yukon, didn't she? And if Scrooge really cares for
Goldie, what makes us think he really cares for whatever she could
have done with Dawson's male population?
[]s
P.C.Barreto
(Email removed)
Soeren Krarup Olesen
Censorship
Message 394 -
1998-01-23 at 22:33:38
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MARCO:
Good job on the Brigitta/Goldie incidence.
I have another example of censorship for you in the
Bottaro story "Archimede e il signor Scherzo" (I-TL-385-A).
According to the disney-database it was mistakenly
drawn by Chierchini, but it is indeed by Bottaro!!!
You can find the Danish version and the German
version (in which Perego drew the
censored art) at
http://www.kom.auc.dk/~sko/jumbo/galleria.html
I don't remember who gave me the German version,
but it was someone on this ML.
Søren
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<HTML>
MARCO:
Good job on the Brigitta/Goldie incidence.
I have another example of censorship for you in the
Bottaro story "Archimede e il signor Scherzo" (I-TL-385-A).
According to the disney-database it was mistakenly
drawn by Chierchini, but it is indeed by Bottaro!!!
You can find the Danish version and the German
version (in which Perego drew the
censored art) at
<A HREF="http://www.kom.auc.dk/~sko/jumbo">http://www.kom.auc.dk/~sko/jumbo/galleria.html</A>
I don't remember who gave me the German version,
but it was someone on this ML.
Søren
</HTML>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
MARCO:
Good job on the Brigitta/Goldie incidence.
I have another example of censorship for you in the
Bottaro story "Archimede e il signor Scherzo" (I-TL-385-A).
According to the disney-database it was mistakenly
drawn by Chierchini, but it is indeed by Bottaro!!!
You can find the Danish version and the German
version (in which Perego drew the
censored art) at
http://www.kom.auc.dk/~sko/jumbo/galleria.html
I don't remember who gave me the German version,
but it was someone on this ML.
Søren
--------------503BB596E4AE3147431FBC9F
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<HTML>
MARCO:
Good job on the Brigitta/Goldie incidence.
I have another example of censorship for you in the
Bottaro story "Archimede e il signor Scherzo" (I-TL-385-A).
According to the disney-database it was mistakenly
drawn by Chierchini, but it is indeed by Bottaro!!!
You can find the Danish version and the German
version (in which Perego drew the
censored art) at
<A HREF="http://www.kom.auc.dk/~sko/jumbo">http://www.kom.auc.dk/~sko/jumbo/galleria.html</A>
I don't remember who gave me the German version,
but it was someone on this ML.
Søren
</HTML>
--------------503BB596E4AE3147431FBC9F--
Luca Boschi
Scrooge's girlfriends (one more!)
Message 395 -
1998-01-23 at 23:08:05
Ciao a tutti.
Since $crooge's girlfriends' theme is one the more discussed, I want to=
=20
add one more of 'em to the list.
Katie says:
=20
> Here's a partial list of all the people who are possible romantic
> companions of $crooge:
>=20
> 1. Glittering Goldie O'Gilt (!!!!!!!!!!)
> 2. Brigitta MacBridge (it's difficult...)
> 3. Millionera Vanderbucks :-( Bah!
> 4. Grandma Duck (impossible, in some stories written by ignorant it=
alian story men, she's even his sister... and Disney don't like this ki=
nd of "inciucios")
> 5. Isabelle/Daisy in "Mickey's Christmas Carol" (impossible, it's a=
fictional theatrical act)
> 6. Miss Quackfaster (there's no reason to think it)
> 7. Miss Belle Duck! Surely she was, at least how Brigitta did! Do yo=
u remember this fat "girl", created by Al Hubbard late in 1966? She was=
introduced in some stories drawn by Hubbard, Phil DeLara, Jim Fletcher=
, Jack Bardbury, Tony Strobl. I remember around four of them; italian a=
rtists never drew her again. According to these stories, she was $croog=
ee's fianc=8Ee' some 40 years before her popping up in comics. In her f=
irst appearance she was drawn, with his rich father in a gorgeous mansi=
on in the South of the USA. The guy who created her stories was the omn=
ipresent Dick Kinney. Her first story published in Italy (where she was=
called Bella Quack), on "Topolino" n.591/1967 was titled "Zio Paperone=
e l'affare delle monete".
So, here's some more panels to scan for Lunastorta or MarcoBar.
Bye!
Luca
Since $crooge's girlfriends' theme is one the more discussed, I want to=
=20
add one more of 'em to the list.
Katie says:
=20
> Here's a partial list of all the people who are possible romantic
> companions of $crooge:
>=20
> 1. Glittering Goldie O'Gilt (!!!!!!!!!!)
> 2. Brigitta MacBridge (it's difficult...)
> 3. Millionera Vanderbucks :-( Bah!
> 4. Grandma Duck (impossible, in some stories written by ignorant it=
alian story men, she's even his sister... and Disney don't like this ki=
nd of "inciucios")
> 5. Isabelle/Daisy in "Mickey's Christmas Carol" (impossible, it's a=
fictional theatrical act)
> 6. Miss Quackfaster (there's no reason to think it)
> 7. Miss Belle Duck! Surely she was, at least how Brigitta did! Do yo=
u remember this fat "girl", created by Al Hubbard late in 1966? She was=
introduced in some stories drawn by Hubbard, Phil DeLara, Jim Fletcher=
, Jack Bardbury, Tony Strobl. I remember around four of them; italian a=
rtists never drew her again. According to these stories, she was $croog=
ee's fianc=8Ee' some 40 years before her popping up in comics. In her f=
irst appearance she was drawn, with his rich father in a gorgeous mansi=
on in the South of the USA. The guy who created her stories was the omn=
ipresent Dick Kinney. Her first story published in Italy (where she was=
called Bella Quack), on "Topolino" n.591/1967 was titled "Zio Paperone=
e l'affare delle monete".
So, here's some more panels to scan for Lunastorta or MarcoBar.
Bye!
Luca
Cebarat
Digest V98 #26-29
Message 396 -
1998-01-24 at 02:19:05
DWIGHT DECKER:
<<There have been some passing comments on the Duck Tales TV show recently...
I'd said I felt a sinking feeling when I began a foreign Disney story and saw
the Money Bin had a dome on it because I knew it would be an Italian story.
Somebody replied to the effect that the sight of the dome on the bin gave him
a
nostalgic feeling because it reminded him of the Duck Tales show.>>
That was me...
<<Well, some of you on this ML are young enough that Duck Tales was part of
your childhood experience and may have even got you interested in this corner
of the Disney Universe to begin with. I'm enough older that I grew up with
Barks
comics in the '50s -- for me, Duck Tales in the late '80s was just one more
thing in a vast clutter of everything else.>>
The latter may be a function of age and Duck-experience. In 1987, DUCKTALES
appeared to me like a bolt from the blue just when I was getting involved
with comics fandom. For that reason, it has always struck me as just as
valid a "take" on the Ducks' world as anything penned by Rosa, Van Horn,
Block, Scarpa, etc.
How about it, younger members? Did DT hit you the same way it did me?
But last night, I got out one of my Duck Tales laserdiscs, which I haven't
looked at since about 1990, and watched a couple of episodes just to refresh
my
memory. Y'know what? I enjoyed 'em...for the most part, this was a fairly
faithful adaptation of what Barks created.>>
And -- don't forget -- it blazed some important trails of its own. The
creation of new characters was not simply a way of (1) covering up for
Donald's absence and (2) appealing to females. It gave to the American
audience what European fans have been accustomed to for years, namely, some
new and interesting Duck creations.
<<...I'd like to see Doofus used in comics, just to give the Junior Woodchucks
something of a supporting cast of their own (HD&L seem to be the only
permanent
members of the JWs -- their fellow members are different in every story).>>
I'd like to see him used PROPERLY, not cast as the Junior Woodchuck troop
leader (as he was in some of the Disney Studio stories scripted by Vic
Lockman) simply because he's bigger than the Nephews! Having Doofus be one
of HD&L's "fellow Woodchucks" would be a nice way of giving the "fellow
members" cast some consistency.
OLE NIELSEN:
<<Don Rosa chased off "his own" list!? I'm upset, angry and very sorry.
I choose to believe that I'm speaking on behalf of the great majority
of subscribers, when characterizing the recent developments as a
mudslinging campaign against Don.>>
Someone else has already commented on the use of the phrase "[Don's] own
list". To my mind, it's ill-advised, giving people the false impression
that this IS in fact a "Rosa cheering section".
<<...that's why [Don] is being exploited by people who use him as a prestige
xerox machine (hi Gladstone!)...>>
??? Explain, please? Gladstone is simply reprinting Rosa's stories. Are
you referring to the album reprints of "LO$" and the first two years of
Don's stories?
ARCHONTIS PANTSIOS:
<<...I must say that I've enjoyed reading Blum's
pieces on Barks' stories in the past 10 years. I even corresponded with him
for a brief time. And this very fascination and specialization of Geoffrey
Blum with Barks' work, is what I believe to be his blind spot in evaluating
anything else that hasn't come from Barks' pen.
..Mr. Geoffrey Blum seems to be captive of his own Barksian biases and
preconceptions. It's human and understandable after working for so many
years on churning out articles on Barks' monumental work.>>
I totally agree. "Blind spots" of the kind described by Archontis are, of
course, not unique to Geoffrey Blum. They can impact anyone who regards
a particular version of the Ducks as "the gospel." Geoff's major "sin" was
one of omission -- forgetting that he was talking about a story that had
never been published in the US, rather than a Barks story -- rather than
commission (unreasonable negativity). It was more carelessness than anything
else, I think.
DON MARKSTEIN:
<<DWIGHT DECKER -- I kind of agree about DuckTales...
I was just (after all these years) getting
around to the idea that I ought to collect it, when The Disney
Channel took it off. Oh well. It'll be back.>>
For those Europeans who were not aware of it, DUCKTALES is currently back
in syndication, running as part of the Disney TV syndicated package (formerly
*sob!!* the DISNEY AFTERNOON). I imagine that in the Fall of 1998, DT will
be shifted to the nascent TOON DISNEY channel, where it will run serenely
with other well-aged Disney TV products until Lord knows when.
P C BARRETO:
<<I remember another Ducktales episode in which some of FG's money
actually spills over US's pile (when they compare who has the heaviest
fortune) and there's no indication that FG reclaimed his money.>>
This was "Working for Scales." Glomgold's money actually was FLIPPED out
of one of the pans of the giant scales weighing his money against Scrooge's.
No doubt Flintheart pulled out one of those "wet-dry heavy duty vacuum
cleaners" and reclaimed his fortune piece by piece. (Hey, if Scrooge could
recover his fortune by toy trainloads in "A Christmas for Shacktown"...)
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
<<There have been some passing comments on the Duck Tales TV show recently...
I'd said I felt a sinking feeling when I began a foreign Disney story and saw
the Money Bin had a dome on it because I knew it would be an Italian story.
Somebody replied to the effect that the sight of the dome on the bin gave him
a
nostalgic feeling because it reminded him of the Duck Tales show.>>
That was me...
<<Well, some of you on this ML are young enough that Duck Tales was part of
your childhood experience and may have even got you interested in this corner
of the Disney Universe to begin with. I'm enough older that I grew up with
Barks
comics in the '50s -- for me, Duck Tales in the late '80s was just one more
thing in a vast clutter of everything else.>>
The latter may be a function of age and Duck-experience. In 1987, DUCKTALES
appeared to me like a bolt from the blue just when I was getting involved
with comics fandom. For that reason, it has always struck me as just as
valid a "take" on the Ducks' world as anything penned by Rosa, Van Horn,
Block, Scarpa, etc.
How about it, younger members? Did DT hit you the same way it did me?
But last night, I got out one of my Duck Tales laserdiscs, which I haven't
looked at since about 1990, and watched a couple of episodes just to refresh
my
memory. Y'know what? I enjoyed 'em...for the most part, this was a fairly
faithful adaptation of what Barks created.>>
And -- don't forget -- it blazed some important trails of its own. The
creation of new characters was not simply a way of (1) covering up for
Donald's absence and (2) appealing to females. It gave to the American
audience what European fans have been accustomed to for years, namely, some
new and interesting Duck creations.
<<...I'd like to see Doofus used in comics, just to give the Junior Woodchucks
something of a supporting cast of their own (HD&L seem to be the only
permanent
members of the JWs -- their fellow members are different in every story).>>
I'd like to see him used PROPERLY, not cast as the Junior Woodchuck troop
leader (as he was in some of the Disney Studio stories scripted by Vic
Lockman) simply because he's bigger than the Nephews! Having Doofus be one
of HD&L's "fellow Woodchucks" would be a nice way of giving the "fellow
members" cast some consistency.
OLE NIELSEN:
<<Don Rosa chased off "his own" list!? I'm upset, angry and very sorry.
I choose to believe that I'm speaking on behalf of the great majority
of subscribers, when characterizing the recent developments as a
mudslinging campaign against Don.>>
Someone else has already commented on the use of the phrase "[Don's] own
list". To my mind, it's ill-advised, giving people the false impression
that this IS in fact a "Rosa cheering section".
<<...that's why [Don] is being exploited by people who use him as a prestige
xerox machine (hi Gladstone!)...>>
??? Explain, please? Gladstone is simply reprinting Rosa's stories. Are
you referring to the album reprints of "LO$" and the first two years of
Don's stories?
ARCHONTIS PANTSIOS:
<<...I must say that I've enjoyed reading Blum's
pieces on Barks' stories in the past 10 years. I even corresponded with him
for a brief time. And this very fascination and specialization of Geoffrey
Blum with Barks' work, is what I believe to be his blind spot in evaluating
anything else that hasn't come from Barks' pen.
..Mr. Geoffrey Blum seems to be captive of his own Barksian biases and
preconceptions. It's human and understandable after working for so many
years on churning out articles on Barks' monumental work.>>
I totally agree. "Blind spots" of the kind described by Archontis are, of
course, not unique to Geoffrey Blum. They can impact anyone who regards
a particular version of the Ducks as "the gospel." Geoff's major "sin" was
one of omission -- forgetting that he was talking about a story that had
never been published in the US, rather than a Barks story -- rather than
commission (unreasonable negativity). It was more carelessness than anything
else, I think.
DON MARKSTEIN:
<<DWIGHT DECKER -- I kind of agree about DuckTales...
I was just (after all these years) getting
around to the idea that I ought to collect it, when The Disney
Channel took it off. Oh well. It'll be back.>>
For those Europeans who were not aware of it, DUCKTALES is currently back
in syndication, running as part of the Disney TV syndicated package (formerly
*sob!!* the DISNEY AFTERNOON). I imagine that in the Fall of 1998, DT will
be shifted to the nascent TOON DISNEY channel, where it will run serenely
with other well-aged Disney TV products until Lord knows when.
P C BARRETO:
<<I remember another Ducktales episode in which some of FG's money
actually spills over US's pile (when they compare who has the heaviest
fortune) and there's no indication that FG reclaimed his money.>>
This was "Working for Scales." Glomgold's money actually was FLIPPED out
of one of the pans of the giant scales weighing his money against Scrooge's.
No doubt Flintheart pulled out one of those "wet-dry heavy duty vacuum
cleaners" and reclaimed his fortune piece by piece. (Hey, if Scrooge could
recover his fortune by toy trainloads in "A Christmas for Shacktown"...)
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
Katie Sullivan
Random thought
Message 397 -
1998-01-24 at 02:24:31
Between the traditional Mickey and Donald, they only have one set of
clothes!
Mickey's pants, and Donald's shirt! Is there a textile shortage
somewhere?
:-)
*Giggle*
Katie
clothes!
Mickey's pants, and Donald's shirt! Is there a textile shortage
somewhere?
:-)
*Giggle*
Katie
Katie Sullivan
Art update
Message 398 -
1998-01-24 at 06:16:27
Miss Quackfasters's Gallery has been updated with three new pictures!
http://www.execpc.com/~sulliva1/quack.htm
Now in low and high graphics versions!
Katie
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #31
*****************************************
http://www.execpc.com/~sulliva1/quack.htm
Now in low and high graphics versions!
Katie
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #31
*****************************************
Katie Sullivan
The usual "spangled and flashy" ramblings
Message 399 -
1998-01-24 at 06:53:36
> As stated in the HooZoo it says Miss Vanderbucks is a *twisted*
> version [OF BRIGITTA],
> but the truth is, I was merely speculating as to a possible origin for
> the
> concept of M. Vanderbucks.
I see your point. There are some sketchy similarities. Still, they are
both intriguing characters in their own right, even if Millionera is a
witch!
> Recently rewatching an episode of "Quack Pack" called "Ducklaration of
>
> Independence" I noticed an obvious, yet subtle nod to FETHRY and
> HARD HAID MOE
I've got to start watching that show!
> ANOTHER WORKING THEORY:
> [Katie says):
> >Here's a partial list of all the people who are possible romantic
> >companions of $crooge:
> <snip>
> >6. Miss Quackfaster (!!!)
>
> And then signs her post as:
>
> >Katie Sullivan
> >a.k.a. "Miss Quackfaster"
>
> Is there something we should know? ;-) [just having fun]
:-D Tee hee. I didn't notice I had done that! I was just thinking of
all the female characters who are unattached romantically and are of a
suitable age. Plus, another extremely knowledgeable Disney comics
aficinado speculated about it.
> RE: "Blood in Duckburg"):
I really would like to read that sometime. I'm curious.
MARCO:
THANKYOU A MILLION TIMES FOR THE SCANS! :-) They're fascinating!
> I remember Scrooge's first description of Goldie too
> well. From memory: "She was spangled and flashy, and her heart
> was as hard as the ice on the tundra -- the only LIVE one I ever
> knew." <snip> ...if we take him at his word,
> and we really don't have any reason not to, the meaning of "the
> only LIVE one I ever knew" is clear. She wasn't just a gold
> field fling -- she was The Woman In His Past.
One of my favorite quotes concerning Goldie, too. I, of course,
interpret it the same way.
> > Well, some of you on this ML are young enough that Duck Tales was
> part of your
> > childhood experience and may have even got you interested in this
> corner of the
> > Disney Universe to begin with.
I was only 7 years old when DuckTales debuted, but as I have said
before, I have been into Disney Ducks since before I could read. I have
many a fond memory of "cuddle & read times" before my afternoon nap with
my dad, spent with Flintheart, Magica, Beagle Boys, Daisy, Terries,
Fermies and all our other friends.
> As much as I loathe the fact that they needed to throw in a half-dozen
> new
> character for the second season, I still have a certain fondness for
> Bubba. "SCOOGE!"
Overall, I agree, although Bubba was, IMHO, dreadfully anachronistic.
But then, that was the point of his character, right? So never mind.
Anyway, I always thought the "Scooge" saying was adorable!LUCA:
> > 7. Miss Belle Duck!
Ooh! Another one for my Scrooge Girlfriend Hall of Fame!
Well, it's late ( at least in *my* time zone!!!!) and I'm wiped out from
two days of semester final tests at school. Nighty night!
Katie Sullivan
a.k.a. Miss Quackfaster(???) ;-)
"Who am I? Where am I? *Why* am I?" ~ a dazed Scrooge in some old
story whose title I don't remember
"Normal is what everyone else is and you are not" ~ Dr. Tolian Soran
in Star Trek: Generations
> version [OF BRIGITTA],
> but the truth is, I was merely speculating as to a possible origin for
> the
> concept of M. Vanderbucks.
I see your point. There are some sketchy similarities. Still, they are
both intriguing characters in their own right, even if Millionera is a
witch!
> Recently rewatching an episode of "Quack Pack" called "Ducklaration of
>
> Independence" I noticed an obvious, yet subtle nod to FETHRY and
> HARD HAID MOE
I've got to start watching that show!
> ANOTHER WORKING THEORY:
> [Katie says):
> >Here's a partial list of all the people who are possible romantic
> >companions of $crooge:
> <snip>
> >6. Miss Quackfaster (!!!)
>
> And then signs her post as:
>
> >Katie Sullivan
> >a.k.a. "Miss Quackfaster"
>
> Is there something we should know? ;-) [just having fun]
:-D Tee hee. I didn't notice I had done that! I was just thinking of
all the female characters who are unattached romantically and are of a
suitable age. Plus, another extremely knowledgeable Disney comics
aficinado speculated about it.
> RE: "Blood in Duckburg"):
I really would like to read that sometime. I'm curious.
MARCO:
THANKYOU A MILLION TIMES FOR THE SCANS! :-) They're fascinating!
> I remember Scrooge's first description of Goldie too
> well. From memory: "She was spangled and flashy, and her heart
> was as hard as the ice on the tundra -- the only LIVE one I ever
> knew." <snip> ...if we take him at his word,
> and we really don't have any reason not to, the meaning of "the
> only LIVE one I ever knew" is clear. She wasn't just a gold
> field fling -- she was The Woman In His Past.
One of my favorite quotes concerning Goldie, too. I, of course,
interpret it the same way.
> > Well, some of you on this ML are young enough that Duck Tales was
> part of your
> > childhood experience and may have even got you interested in this
> corner of the
> > Disney Universe to begin with.
I was only 7 years old when DuckTales debuted, but as I have said
before, I have been into Disney Ducks since before I could read. I have
many a fond memory of "cuddle & read times" before my afternoon nap with
my dad, spent with Flintheart, Magica, Beagle Boys, Daisy, Terries,
Fermies and all our other friends.
> As much as I loathe the fact that they needed to throw in a half-dozen
> new
> character for the second season, I still have a certain fondness for
> Bubba. "SCOOGE!"
Overall, I agree, although Bubba was, IMHO, dreadfully anachronistic.
But then, that was the point of his character, right? So never mind.
Anyway, I always thought the "Scooge" saying was adorable!LUCA:
> > 7. Miss Belle Duck!
Ooh! Another one for my Scrooge Girlfriend Hall of Fame!
Well, it's late ( at least in *my* time zone!!!!) and I'm wiped out from
two days of semester final tests at school. Nighty night!
Katie Sullivan
a.k.a. Miss Quackfaster(???) ;-)
"Who am I? Where am I? *Why* am I?" ~ a dazed Scrooge in some old
story whose title I don't remember
"Normal is what everyone else is and you are not" ~ Dr. Tolian Soran
in Star Trek: Generations
Matthew R. Sommer
DuckTales!
Message 400 -
1998-01-24 at 06:57:34
Cebarat said:
>The latter may be a function of age and Duck-experience. In 1987, DUCKTALES
>appeared to me like a bolt from the blue just when I was getting involved
>with comics fandom. For that reason, it has always struck me as just as
>valid a "take" on the Ducks' world as anything penned by Rosa, Van Horn,
>Block, Scarpa, etc.
>How about it, younger members? Did DT hit you the same way it did me?
Yep. Like you and Augie, DuckTales is what got me interested in this
whole crazy jumble we call the "duck universe".
I was a bit older, about 15 or 16 I guess, but really got into the
show. There wasnt much GOOD afternoon cartoons back in those days, and
DT did strike a chord with me... I wasn't sure why, exactly, until a few
months ago when I cleaned out my basement and found all the Whitman U$
reprints i had as a kid! I've always had a liking for U$, and seeing the
world come alive on TV caught my attention. Webby and Mrs. Beakly DID
strike me as really annoying, as did Donald's limited (as well as
mush-mouthed) role... but i liked Launchpad (esp. when he'd surprise
everyone and do something really cool and heroic!). We also got several
nice guest appearances of other duck characters from time to time,
part of it was the nifty adventure yarns (I didnt know who Carl Barks
was back then...) and part of it was also the EXCELLENT animation in
most of the first season episodes... done by mostly japanese animators,
they looked really really good... almost movie quality. The consistant
art added to the experience of seeing a comic book story come alive.
unfortunately, the second season really hit rock bottom for me, as I
found both bubba and "gizmoduck" to be rather one dimensional gimmick
characters (and "Ma" Crackshell...<<shudder!>>). The animation also
took a nosedive, as i understand a new director liked to use really
ultra-outrageous facial expressions and other weird techniques that took
away from the show's classic look and feel.
I got a chance to catch a handfull of episodes again about a year or so
ago, and they did still hold up well...It was fun to go back and
re-watch them after having a better understanding of the comic book U$.
i think the original 5 episodes especially are very well done. I dont
have any on tape though!!! I tried a few months ago when they were
running the show during saturday mornings, but didnt get many. :((
I havent seen "Quack Pack" yet, but it doesnt sound like something I'd
wanna touch, esp. after having gotten into duck fandom... exactly how
bad is it? anyone?? :)
-matt-
p.s. was anyone else as extremely disappointed by the DT movie as I was?
>The latter may be a function of age and Duck-experience. In 1987, DUCKTALES
>appeared to me like a bolt from the blue just when I was getting involved
>with comics fandom. For that reason, it has always struck me as just as
>valid a "take" on the Ducks' world as anything penned by Rosa, Van Horn,
>Block, Scarpa, etc.
>How about it, younger members? Did DT hit you the same way it did me?
Yep. Like you and Augie, DuckTales is what got me interested in this
whole crazy jumble we call the "duck universe".
I was a bit older, about 15 or 16 I guess, but really got into the
show. There wasnt much GOOD afternoon cartoons back in those days, and
DT did strike a chord with me... I wasn't sure why, exactly, until a few
months ago when I cleaned out my basement and found all the Whitman U$
reprints i had as a kid! I've always had a liking for U$, and seeing the
world come alive on TV caught my attention. Webby and Mrs. Beakly DID
strike me as really annoying, as did Donald's limited (as well as
mush-mouthed) role... but i liked Launchpad (esp. when he'd surprise
everyone and do something really cool and heroic!). We also got several
nice guest appearances of other duck characters from time to time,
part of it was the nifty adventure yarns (I didnt know who Carl Barks
was back then...) and part of it was also the EXCELLENT animation in
most of the first season episodes... done by mostly japanese animators,
they looked really really good... almost movie quality. The consistant
art added to the experience of seeing a comic book story come alive.
unfortunately, the second season really hit rock bottom for me, as I
found both bubba and "gizmoduck" to be rather one dimensional gimmick
characters (and "Ma" Crackshell...<<shudder!>>). The animation also
took a nosedive, as i understand a new director liked to use really
ultra-outrageous facial expressions and other weird techniques that took
away from the show's classic look and feel.
I got a chance to catch a handfull of episodes again about a year or so
ago, and they did still hold up well...It was fun to go back and
re-watch them after having a better understanding of the comic book U$.
i think the original 5 episodes especially are very well done. I dont
have any on tape though!!! I tried a few months ago when they were
running the show during saturday mornings, but didnt get many. :((
I havent seen "Quack Pack" yet, but it doesnt sound like something I'd
wanna touch, esp. after having gotten into duck fandom... exactly how
bad is it? anyone?? :)
-matt-
p.s. was anyone else as extremely disappointed by the DT movie as I was?
Rich Bellacera
Disney comics Digest V98 #31
Message 401 -
1998-01-24 at 08:34:54
DAVID G:
>>ABOUT THE PRINCE & THE PAUPER:
Thank you for sharing the omitted details from the film which
are included in the comic (both of which I have). While I have
enjoyed the film for both its quality art and story, you've given
me a reason to actually read the comic. Formerly I just owned
it 'cause it is my goal to own as many of the animted film
adaptations in Disney Comics as I can. ;-) Especially since
Disney took over the production of those, they began binding
then in quality firm covers and ink, however, under Marvel
the adaptations returned to soft paper covers and now we don't
really get them at all... well that photo adaptaion that Acclaim
did for "Hercules" really sucked (IMHO).
PAULO CEZAR LOPES BARRETO:
>Who is Red Wasp?
He was, I'm sure, intended to only be a "one-shot" character
who appeared in a three part story "The Red Wasp Mystery"
from WDC&S #317 - 319.
***No REAL spoilers***
In that tale the Local celebrated hero was the self-same
*human* Red Wasp who had disappeared and Mickey and
Goofy set out to solve a mystery. In the process Mickey
utilizes the Wasp's extra costume and pretends to be the hero.
It was a nice story, but other than the villians involved and the
chance for Mickey to play the part of a costumed superhero it
was't a very memorable one. An interesting factoid
might be noted in that this tale marks the first time Chief
O'Hara was placed in the role similar to that of Commisioner
Gordon (from Batman) where he is the central dispatching
point for calling Disney's heroes to the task of protecting the
city.
If you are interested in seeing this tale let me know (I have
a scanner and know how to use it) ;-).
BTW, do the heroes of Duckburg typically fight our usual
faire of Disney villians in these superstories (such as Black
Pete, Dangerous Dan & Idjit, Emil Eagle, the Beagle Boys,
etc.)? Or do they get involved with more *super* villianish
types to match? I'm not famliar with this Professor Estigma
so I don't know if he was cast in the role of "Super Villian"
(therefore not your typical thug). If you haven't figured it out
yet, I am a fan of GizmoDuck and especially of DarkWing
Duck which IMHO were far too short-lived. And I liked
seeing DW's own *league* "The Justice Ducks" (some of
which were not really Ducks at all). My primary liking for
these cartoons was the great humor (DW was a major
spoof on Batman).
As soon as I have a complete collection of all the Disney
Superheroes I hope to create a group shot which will
include even some of those not yet mentioned here (like
the Ze' Carioca's "The Green Bat" and Fethry's nephew
as "The Red Bat, Junior."
MARCOBAR:
Thank you for posting those images of Brigitta & Goldie's
first meeting. It was nice to see Dickie there too.
LUCA:
>Since $crooge's girlfriends' theme is one the more discussed,
>I want to add one more of 'em to the list.
[snip]
>> 7. Miss Belle Duck!
I've heard of her, mostly in passing, but from what you say, she
indeed rates as a recurring character in Scrooge's life. I'm
interested in learning more about her and in seeing some images
of her, if possible. I don't believe she has ever appeared in any
comics printed in the USA.
KATIE:
>Between the traditional Mickey and Donald, they only have one set of
>clothes!
>Mickey's pants, and Donald's shirt! Is there a textile shortage
>somewhere?
All kidding aside, if I recall correctly, there is at least one country
in Europe (Holland?) which actually *banned* Donald for a while
for that very reason! Well, I think there was actually a little more
to it (having something to do with promoting extramarital sex
which they mistakenly attributed to the reason he has three *sons*
who have no mother). Perhaps someone on the List knows the
whole, or correct story behind this.
Ciao all.
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
>>ABOUT THE PRINCE & THE PAUPER:
Thank you for sharing the omitted details from the film which
are included in the comic (both of which I have). While I have
enjoyed the film for both its quality art and story, you've given
me a reason to actually read the comic. Formerly I just owned
it 'cause it is my goal to own as many of the animted film
adaptations in Disney Comics as I can. ;-) Especially since
Disney took over the production of those, they began binding
then in quality firm covers and ink, however, under Marvel
the adaptations returned to soft paper covers and now we don't
really get them at all... well that photo adaptaion that Acclaim
did for "Hercules" really sucked (IMHO).
PAULO CEZAR LOPES BARRETO:
>Who is Red Wasp?
He was, I'm sure, intended to only be a "one-shot" character
who appeared in a three part story "The Red Wasp Mystery"
from WDC&S #317 - 319.
***No REAL spoilers***
In that tale the Local celebrated hero was the self-same
*human* Red Wasp who had disappeared and Mickey and
Goofy set out to solve a mystery. In the process Mickey
utilizes the Wasp's extra costume and pretends to be the hero.
It was a nice story, but other than the villians involved and the
chance for Mickey to play the part of a costumed superhero it
was't a very memorable one. An interesting factoid
might be noted in that this tale marks the first time Chief
O'Hara was placed in the role similar to that of Commisioner
Gordon (from Batman) where he is the central dispatching
point for calling Disney's heroes to the task of protecting the
city.
If you are interested in seeing this tale let me know (I have
a scanner and know how to use it) ;-).
BTW, do the heroes of Duckburg typically fight our usual
faire of Disney villians in these superstories (such as Black
Pete, Dangerous Dan & Idjit, Emil Eagle, the Beagle Boys,
etc.)? Or do they get involved with more *super* villianish
types to match? I'm not famliar with this Professor Estigma
so I don't know if he was cast in the role of "Super Villian"
(therefore not your typical thug). If you haven't figured it out
yet, I am a fan of GizmoDuck and especially of DarkWing
Duck which IMHO were far too short-lived. And I liked
seeing DW's own *league* "The Justice Ducks" (some of
which were not really Ducks at all). My primary liking for
these cartoons was the great humor (DW was a major
spoof on Batman).
As soon as I have a complete collection of all the Disney
Superheroes I hope to create a group shot which will
include even some of those not yet mentioned here (like
the Ze' Carioca's "The Green Bat" and Fethry's nephew
as "The Red Bat, Junior."
MARCOBAR:
Thank you for posting those images of Brigitta & Goldie's
first meeting. It was nice to see Dickie there too.
LUCA:
>Since $crooge's girlfriends' theme is one the more discussed,
>I want to add one more of 'em to the list.
[snip]
>> 7. Miss Belle Duck!
I've heard of her, mostly in passing, but from what you say, she
indeed rates as a recurring character in Scrooge's life. I'm
interested in learning more about her and in seeing some images
of her, if possible. I don't believe she has ever appeared in any
comics printed in the USA.
KATIE:
>Between the traditional Mickey and Donald, they only have one set of
>clothes!
>Mickey's pants, and Donald's shirt! Is there a textile shortage
>somewhere?
All kidding aside, if I recall correctly, there is at least one country
in Europe (Holland?) which actually *banned* Donald for a while
for that very reason! Well, I think there was actually a little more
to it (having something to do with promoting extramarital sex
which they mistakenly attributed to the reason he has three *sons*
who have no mother). Perhaps someone on the List knows the
whole, or correct story behind this.
Ciao all.
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
Shaun M. Knowler
Disney comics Digest V98 #31
Message 402 -
1998-01-24 at 10:24:03
CHRISTOPHER BARAT:
> How about it, younger members? Did DT hit you the same way it did me?
Well, I'll be 19 in 2 weeks, so DT certainly came out when I was a little
fella. And I'm quite unique in my situation. I *already* LOVED Duck comics
by the time DT came out, so I can't credit DT for getting me into it like
most of my peers on this list. I was "reading" Duck comics from age 4
(my parents would buy me issues of DONALD DUCK from those
packaged-in-plastic Whitman dealies from the local market before
Gladstone came around. I still have my well-read copy of WDC&S #511!)
so DuckTales was just a cool show about the Ducks I was already well
aquainted with, with certain extra components which made it so greatly
unique. I don't remember thinking the show was accurate or "wrong"
compared to the comics. It was ALL GREAT as far as I was concerned.
I just wish Canada's "Family Channel" would start re-running the show like
the Disney Channel does in the U.S. The Pilot of the series is still one
of the best Disney accomplishments I've seen, and I'd kill to have it on
video.
DAN SHANE:
No need to apoligize (to me!) about your interpretation of my posting.
After all, I warned it might not come out the way I wanted! :)
-Shaun
Fortuna Favet Fortibus
> How about it, younger members? Did DT hit you the same way it did me?
Well, I'll be 19 in 2 weeks, so DT certainly came out when I was a little
fella. And I'm quite unique in my situation. I *already* LOVED Duck comics
by the time DT came out, so I can't credit DT for getting me into it like
most of my peers on this list. I was "reading" Duck comics from age 4
(my parents would buy me issues of DONALD DUCK from those
packaged-in-plastic Whitman dealies from the local market before
Gladstone came around. I still have my well-read copy of WDC&S #511!)
so DuckTales was just a cool show about the Ducks I was already well
aquainted with, with certain extra components which made it so greatly
unique. I don't remember thinking the show was accurate or "wrong"
compared to the comics. It was ALL GREAT as far as I was concerned.
I just wish Canada's "Family Channel" would start re-running the show like
the Disney Channel does in the U.S. The Pilot of the series is still one
of the best Disney accomplishments I've seen, and I'd kill to have it on
video.
DAN SHANE:
No need to apoligize (to me!) about your interpretation of my posting.
After all, I warned it might not come out the way I wanted! :)
-Shaun
Fortuna Favet Fortibus
Luna Storta
Abouts
Message 403 -
1998-01-24 at 14:31:04
Hello,
ABOUT THE 3 CUBIC ACRES:
This discussion about how much money 3 cubic acres are and how is it
possible to measure them appeared on this list some months ago, and
itcaused me enough headhaches... so please search for it in the past
numbers, before that all the mathematicians and phisycians of the list
start again... ;-)
ABOUT A CHRISTMAS CAROL:
vedi grandi parodie
ABOUT DISNEY JUSTICE LEAGUE:
Paperinik (Super Duck) is one of my preferred charachters, at least in
his first appearances, drawn by G. B. Carpi or Massimo de Vita, but when
I read some of those b-coded stories featuring Paperinik, Paperinika or
even Paper Bat (Super Fethry) I really feel sick! They are the worst
thing I ever read, I preferr to read 100 times Perego's worst story
instead of 1 time this super league stories!! :-(
Which is your opinion about this super-heroistic meetings?
ABOUT BLUM'S ARTICLE:
I agree 100% with John Garvin, it isn't so bad as I supposed it was
reading the comments on the list. I like very much this kind of articles
with crossed references: (I suppose I have to insert a **SPOILER** about
"A little something special" at this point...) the paragon between the
kiss Goldie gives to Scrooge and the one in Barks' "Donald and the
Shark" was very interesting, to me. So I don't see WHY all this blaming
against Blum... maybe because he spoiled the story? Well, I suppose he
did it because at the ending was a so big event that anyone could knew
before read the story. In Italy before the publication of Lo$' chapter
where is the first meeting between Donald's parents, many newspapers
presented the event well *BEFORE*, it was an event, and so deserved a
peculiar treatment!
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
ABOUT THE 3 CUBIC ACRES:
This discussion about how much money 3 cubic acres are and how is it
possible to measure them appeared on this list some months ago, and
itcaused me enough headhaches... so please search for it in the past
numbers, before that all the mathematicians and phisycians of the list
start again... ;-)
ABOUT A CHRISTMAS CAROL:
vedi grandi parodie
ABOUT DISNEY JUSTICE LEAGUE:
Paperinik (Super Duck) is one of my preferred charachters, at least in
his first appearances, drawn by G. B. Carpi or Massimo de Vita, but when
I read some of those b-coded stories featuring Paperinik, Paperinika or
even Paper Bat (Super Fethry) I really feel sick! They are the worst
thing I ever read, I preferr to read 100 times Perego's worst story
instead of 1 time this super league stories!! :-(
Which is your opinion about this super-heroistic meetings?
ABOUT BLUM'S ARTICLE:
I agree 100% with John Garvin, it isn't so bad as I supposed it was
reading the comments on the list. I like very much this kind of articles
with crossed references: (I suppose I have to insert a **SPOILER** about
"A little something special" at this point...) the paragon between the
kiss Goldie gives to Scrooge and the one in Barks' "Donald and the
Shark" was very interesting, to me. So I don't see WHY all this blaming
against Blum... maybe because he spoiled the story? Well, I suppose he
did it because at the ending was a so big event that anyone could knew
before read the story. In Italy before the publication of Lo$' chapter
where is the first meeting between Donald's parents, many newspapers
presented the event well *BEFORE*, it was an event, and so deserved a
peculiar treatment!
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Duckburgian embassy
Message 404 -
1998-01-24 at 16:02:11
PAUL BARRETO:
> I'm not sure if Duckburg is the nation's capital or there's an actual
> undisclosed capital over Duckburg, Goosetown etc. Even though, we can
> see no presidents, no monarchs, no prime ministers, no dictators, no
> whoever. That's food for thought, really...
Come to think of it, in "Treasure of Marco Polo" (U$ 64) Scrooge visits
Unsteadystan and in panel 9.2 he says: "There's the *Duckburgian embassy*!
I'm going in and demand protection!" He points at a building in the
background where a flag can be seen with a (animal) duck on it.
Or has this one already been mentioned?
Greetings,
--- Daniel
- "Rebel Debbil, you're fighting in *siesta* time!
It's five minutes *after* one!"
- "Shows you can't trust these watches
from the workers' paradise!" (U$ 64)
> I'm not sure if Duckburg is the nation's capital or there's an actual
> undisclosed capital over Duckburg, Goosetown etc. Even though, we can
> see no presidents, no monarchs, no prime ministers, no dictators, no
> whoever. That's food for thought, really...
Come to think of it, in "Treasure of Marco Polo" (U$ 64) Scrooge visits
Unsteadystan and in panel 9.2 he says: "There's the *Duckburgian embassy*!
I'm going in and demand protection!" He points at a building in the
background where a flag can be seen with a (animal) duck on it.
Or has this one already been mentioned?
Greetings,
--- Daniel
- "Rebel Debbil, you're fighting in *siesta* time!
It's five minutes *after* one!"
- "Shows you can't trust these watches
from the workers' paradise!" (U$ 64)
Francois Willot
Disney comics Digest V98 #28
Message 405 -
1998-01-24 at 16:37:32
Dave Rawson:
>If others view that as "promotion," well, I guess I'll
>have to live with that view. Come to think of it, I do consciously
>promote the artists and other collaborators. So I guess it's fair
>to call it promotion. I think it's important for such creators to
>get their due.
Maybe the word sounds wrong to you, but in your case, you send messages
to fans and persons who are intersted by Disney comics. It has nothing
to do with a commercial promotion...
>I'm of little interest to most of this mailing list. Hardly anyone
>here has seen any of my work, and those few who have seen it, have
>no way of knowing it's mine. There's no way for someone to see one
>of my stories and say, "Wow! There's another Rawson-written story.
>I'd recognize that look anywhere!"
Frankly, I think this is going to change. People will find credits in a
lot of Egmont publications and creators like you will be acknowledged.
You write many stories for Egmont, so your name will often appear. I
know that a lot of people will not *recognize* your stories, because
it's very hard to recognize writers' styles. But people will "know" you,
particularly if you write something they like.
As for your "promotion" messages, the stories you're talking about are
unfortunately published long after here, so I can't say anything about
them. You once talked about a JW story, and it seems that you were quite
proud of it. I'd love to read it, but I know that this kind of stories
is seldom published in France.
The last story you wrote which was published here is D 92281, "US One of
a kind", drawn by Rodriques (or Paco Rodriguez). I hope you will not do
Duck Tales stories anymore, because I don't like them...
Katie Sullivan wrote:
>Here's a partial list of all the people who are possible romantic
>companions of $crooge:
>
>1. Glittering Goldie O'Gilt (!!!!!!!!!!)
>2. Brigitta MacBridge
>3. Millionera Vanderbucks :-(
>4. Grandma Duck (???)
>5. Isabelle/Daisy in "Mickey's Christmas Carol" (????????)
>6. Miss Quackfaster (!!!)
>7. [Insert your own picks here] (????????????)
There was also "Money Quack", Scrooge's only love who appeared in
several Italian productions. Are there still stories with them in Italy?
(question intended to the Italian guys on this list).
Francois
>If others view that as "promotion," well, I guess I'll
>have to live with that view. Come to think of it, I do consciously
>promote the artists and other collaborators. So I guess it's fair
>to call it promotion. I think it's important for such creators to
>get their due.
Maybe the word sounds wrong to you, but in your case, you send messages
to fans and persons who are intersted by Disney comics. It has nothing
to do with a commercial promotion...
>I'm of little interest to most of this mailing list. Hardly anyone
>here has seen any of my work, and those few who have seen it, have
>no way of knowing it's mine. There's no way for someone to see one
>of my stories and say, "Wow! There's another Rawson-written story.
>I'd recognize that look anywhere!"
Frankly, I think this is going to change. People will find credits in a
lot of Egmont publications and creators like you will be acknowledged.
You write many stories for Egmont, so your name will often appear. I
know that a lot of people will not *recognize* your stories, because
it's very hard to recognize writers' styles. But people will "know" you,
particularly if you write something they like.
As for your "promotion" messages, the stories you're talking about are
unfortunately published long after here, so I can't say anything about
them. You once talked about a JW story, and it seems that you were quite
proud of it. I'd love to read it, but I know that this kind of stories
is seldom published in France.
The last story you wrote which was published here is D 92281, "US One of
a kind", drawn by Rodriques (or Paco Rodriguez). I hope you will not do
Duck Tales stories anymore, because I don't like them...
Katie Sullivan wrote:
>Here's a partial list of all the people who are possible romantic
>companions of $crooge:
>
>1. Glittering Goldie O'Gilt (!!!!!!!!!!)
>2. Brigitta MacBridge
>3. Millionera Vanderbucks :-(
>4. Grandma Duck (???)
>5. Isabelle/Daisy in "Mickey's Christmas Carol" (????????)
>6. Miss Quackfaster (!!!)
>7. [Insert your own picks here] (????????????)
There was also "Money Quack", Scrooge's only love who appeared in
several Italian productions. Are there still stories with them in Italy?
(question intended to the Italian guys on this list).
Francois