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Topic: Gottfredson Library starting in 2011!!!

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Lars Jensen
I'm pleased Fantagraphics will print the strips in black & white. That's how the strips were originally published, so they were drawn with that in mind.
GeoX
Yeah, b&w is more authentic. People get confused because they think of MM in terms of comic books, but that's not what this is at all. Imagine if the Peanuts collections were in color. Everyone would rightly call that bizarre. The MM strip is no different.
Robb_K
I'd rather have it in colour. I've seen more of the Gottfredson work in comic books than in black and white daily newspaper strips.
Hedberg
This is great news - all I've been waiting for for years.
But with the awfully ugly coloring in "Carl Barks Samlede Værker" in mind, I too, will be more than happy if the Gottfredson Library will be in black and white. If the strips shall be colored, it must be in the original newspaperscale (more gauce) certainly NOT "the more, the marrier"-concept of Egmont...

I couldn't stand yet another destruction of good artistery!
GeoX
Quote from user: Robb_KI've seen more of the Gottfredson work in comic books than in black and white daily newspaper strips.
Me too. Doesn't change the fact that they were meant to be printed in black and white.
Hedberg
Gary Groth: "My plan and my hope is to reprint it exactly as it was, with some explanatory text for a modern audience. I want to keep it intact."
Me, I like this !!
Gerd Syllwasschy
Quote from user: Hedbergthe awfully ugly coloring in "Carl Barks Samlede Værker"
I think they did a decent job. Wouldn't want to have the stories in the original muddy 1950s-style coloring.

By the way, Hedberg, ever seen the airbrush-colored book "Uncle Scrooge McDuck", supervised by Carl himself? Now that's what I call "the more, the merrier"! :D
Hedberg
Yea - got it!
That was surely awful.

As of CBSV, I actually mean the first 5 books. We managed a flood of complaint letters to Egmont and they moderated the last 25 volumes.
Sorry Egmont, it was only 15% of the collected works that was (and still is) destroyed...
Niko
I don´t understand the dislike of coloring old comics.

Of course, they shouldn´t spoil them (like they did with that Uncle Scrooge book, I agree)
but they can do it well, so why not?
If they would have the money (and the easy possibility) in the old days when they printed
the newspapers, they would have colored them, too.
By the way, most of the coloring of the old comic books REALLY IS UGLY, and I don´t
see a reason to reprint ugly stuff if they can do it better nowadays.

I like the Egmont coloring as far as I have seen it, and I also like the coloring of the Italian Gottfredson edition. I advice to look at it at youtube ("gli anni d´oro topolino").
Lars Jensen
Quote from user: nikoI don´t understand the dislike of coloring old comics.

Of course, they shouldn´t spoil them (like they did with that Uncle Scrooge book, I agree)
but they can do it well, so why not?
If they would have the money (and the easy possibility) in the old days when they printed
the newspapers, they would have colored them, too.

As I wrote earlier: when the MM daily strips were originally published, they were printed in black and white -- so they were drawn with that in mind. That meant adding shadows and crosshatchings in a lot of places where colours otherwise would have added the wanted atmosphere to the panel. (Look at the Mickey strip currently featured at http://d23.disney.go.com/comics.html , for instance.) If you add colours to such drawings, often the results will look muddy. And the way that problem is usually solved by the editor is by going in and removing some shadows and crosshatchings from the artwork.

So you can either have the MM daily strips in black and white, have them look muddy... or have some of the artwork removed from the panels.

I prefer the black and white solution.
Gerd Syllwasschy
I couldn't agree more completely, Lars.
Niko
I was just comparing sizes of the "Peanuts" books and the
"Italian Gottfredson" series and the "Mickey Mouse in color":

Peanuts: 8" x 6,5" (very small)
Italian Gottfredson: 11" x 8,5"
Mickey Mouse in Color: 11,5" x 9,5"

I hope they will use at least one of the two bigger sizes, because Peanuts-size will definitely be
far too small for such gorgeous drawings!
And I´d really be glad if they´d print the Sundays, too - like in the Peanuts edition: 2 years of
daylies and sundays together. But last thing I heard they will not.
The idea of having supplementary material is also good!
Robb_K
They should at least print the Sunday continuing adventure stories, and the longest continuing comedy "stories" (sequences).
Charlie Brown
I would definitely prefer a black and white edition. That's the "color" they were made for.
Amazon takes already pre-orders: http://www.amazon.com/Walt-Disneys-Mickey-Mouse-Valley/dp/1606994417/ They name 10.5 x 8.5 in as size. 260 pages.
Arthur
They have the cover up for this now:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61mXC9WjR7L._SS500_.jpg
Looks nice! $18.40 for a 260-page hard cover book isn't bad.
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