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Hi friends
>

OLAF
>
>Hi! I just want to tell you that tonight, I had a really weird dream. I
>dreamed that the king of Norway made Dan Shane a royal knight. Quite odd,
>since I don't know what Dan Shane looks like, but that was my dream. Ciao!

I don't find it odd todream about something which you have great interest
in. I both met Carl Barks and Don Rosa talking to George Lucas in my
dreams. There will sadly be no chance of the first anymore, and I don't
really recall what Don and George were talking about...

>W
>ell, maybe they'll see them when that story is reprinted in the German
>
>"Rosa Album" series.
They sure hope so.
Album 27 I guess.
>
>Speaking a bit more on the blueprints, I've now seen all three of the "Big
>Three"
Wasn't that also what they called Chrurchill, Roosevelt and Stalin?

>weekly versions of it, all of the versions that Dan Shane created on
>his computer here in Louisville and which were printed directly from his
>computer file into the Egmont comics. And each printing is different. All
>are rather nice, but they're still different.
Yes, very

>The Swedish version looks good, but the blue is a light turquoise. Still,
>no problem.
I look forward to see that one

Interesting info about the press at Egmont. I have noticed the fact about
different paper quality for years of course. It's the reason many of the
continued stories are partly destroyed by their darned glue when they
include
a (childish or not) gift for the reader. They put it in the middle, where
the
change of paper quality is.
I remember back in the 80'es and maybe untill 1994 where the old press
could take all pages exept the coiver which had to be in this glossy
quality.
It was one quality then. If they keep on this two-quality-business it's
strange.
I'm glad you're satisfied especially with the page 1 of those prints.

Does others here recall the new gate of triumph, in la Defense near Paris?
The danish translator made the architecht be the duck-counterpart of him.
Johand (and means duck) Spr?kkelsen (Sprechelsen). Sprechelsen was
the actual architecht of that, and that makes it true that the architecht
made
square buildings. (Did he make this up for the danish one or did Francis
what
was his name make box-formed buildings too?)

The norwegians usally write the writer and artist under the splash panel
of a story.
That they put it in the caption under the Bin is their doing. Readers who
know you,
would know that you didn't tell them to do so. You should be told btw
that the
norwegian title of the series seems to be honnor to Barks, which they
wouldn't write
two times. The danish one says created by Barks those two places.
So for once I can be a bit proud of the danish result. But still some
goofs as made,
two empty speech bubbles and such.
Plus the fact about the coloring, which is equal for all 3 I think. The
golden fleece is white.
And the tooth from the jade-elephant in Treasure of Marco Polo is grey,
insetad of green
as it's supposed to be.
>
>
>Finally, in the panel where the Beagles emerge from the well in the
>basement of the Bin, and they are supposed to be looking at a wall where a
>disgruntled workman has scrawled nasty graffiti about Mr. McDuck, this
>being how the Beagles know they are in the Bin. But in the Norwegian
>version there is no graffiti! The wall is blank! How do they know where
>they are?
I'll want to check this. that's a detail I hadn't noticed! (See it's
necessary to read those
stories at least 5 times to get it all... I'm at no. 4 and 1 hour away
from my issue!)
>

Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist

Hello everyone!

Does anyone know Harry Balm and have a few scans of his paintings?
Dreidreizehn (http://www.dreidreizehn.de/) announces Egmont will publish
with 30 paintings by him in August, but the cover is much too small (it's a
thumbnail).
And does anyone know anything about the Barks covers portfolio Egmont
is publishing in July? Are they reproductions of the original comic book covers?
Or Reproductions from the original, with the same color as the original cover,
or new color? Or black & white?

Speaking of covers, IMHO, the text on the covers was by the editors.
They are just too much like marketing eye-catching phrases. It also fits
Also, on his cover sketches, Barks wrote titles (several versions, sometimes);
if he did write some of these texts, I guess he would have written them on each
sketch (or several propositions in the margin or whatever), or would have
left space for them.
ex: "The Queen of the Wild Dog Pack"
The final layout looks as if it was made to accomodate the text.
But there is no such space in the other sketches, nor on the sketches
for other covers.

Thanks for any information.
Have a nice week-end!

Olivier

Off-topic PS:

Yossi:
>>think the MONKEY ISLAND series, if any of you are familiar with that
Yep, I know "Monkey island" and LucasArts' great adventure games, Yossi!
("Maniac Mansion", "Day of the Tentacle", "Sam 'n' Max, ... ) : )

Rob:

> I tend to agree more with W.L. Lilly, that lines such as "It's Spooky, it's
> Kooky" sound much more like Western's editors than Carl Barks.

It was the pop culture styling of the time, in all media. Barks attempted to
emulate it, self-consciously, his stories of the period, as Bob Haney
attempted to convey at DC in Teen Titans, as Marvel wallowed in with abandon
across their entire line. A lot of television themes and promotions of this
period had that flavor of phrasing, too. Just think The Addams Family, the
theme of which burned such phrases as "mysterious and spooky" and "they're
altogether ooky" into the brains of millions of impressionable viewers'
brains.

> A few of these did seem "Barksish" enough to have been written by
> him. But, knowing the way Western operated, I rather doubt that some of
> them were provided by Barks, and some not. I can picture them asking him
> to draw an additional small drawing for the cover, but not bothering him
> for "advert lines" to entice readers to purchase the book.

Unless mebbe Barks simply jotted down what he thought might be likely blurbs
and sent them along, asked for or not, with his cover art. Unlikely, but not
inconceivable.

> I believe the
> editorial staff would have saved THAT function for themselves (one of the
> small, fun riskless ways they could help justify their existence).

Yes, those editorial staffs sure had to find ways to justify their
existences. After all, they only had to answer to their bosses, the
publishers, who simply expected those editorial staffs to get those comics
done with minimum cost, maximum efficiency, and absolutely ON TIME. Oh yeah,
and to make sure those comics would sell. Hey, no pressure there, right?

Gary Leach

Hi just wondering how many people on the DCML are from Europe?
Oh and a welcome to Reinhold Lennebo to the mailing list.

Kenneth

Disney and Commando Comics http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/ken2/index.html
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Well, I checked the story with that JW-Jubilee, Osborne and Taliaferro
are named there.
About King Scrooge I can only tell you that there are two different
translations one used in MM and the other in the albums.

There are also two versions of "The Quest for Kalevala", again one MM
and one album. I compared them and noticed that, in the MM version, some
words where changed to adapt the story to joung readers. The "rhymes"
where also changed to make them easier to understand for children. It
seems that the german translator Peter Daibezeiher is forced to do so,
but doesn?t like it either. This would explain the different
translations of some stories, all made by him.

Seems to be part of german tradition. I think of Star Trek The Original
Series: the episodes gained a whole new meaning, thanks to german
translations, adapted to younger people.

Norman

...I said I believed the possibility of the 3,000,000
( I assume you weren't insulting me , or , feeling
insulted by me . ) sales , but , I do judge this on
annual average , and , if it was so little over 3 mil
,
obviously , the year's av. was probably less than
that
Still , of course , lots .
Re Rich Morrissey:
He was best known as a super Superman fan ( Just
like Don Rosa ! ) - Years ago , he was writing a
history of the character's changes through the
years/the story behind Superman's editoral approahes -
Did he ever get much written ? Does his research still
exist ? Obviously , this is extremely
OT , but , since this is such an ELITE , HIGH-CLASS
group of fans , where better to ask it ??????? It
could certainly be an interesting book , and , with
the people who worked on Supes pre-1970 generally busy
dying/being dead , the chances for first-hand inquiry
are disappearing-!

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Hi!

While discussing Filo Sganga, Olaf wrote:
> - He has appeared under many different names (at least in Norwegian).
> Blame the translators!

That is the case in Finland too: Jaakko, Kaarlo Kiemu, Nikke N?ykk?, Reima
R?hm? etc. That would suggest that the Nordic pocket books were translated
from the same source. From Germany perhaps? But the strange thing is that
Finnish pocket books match the German ones best. In Denmark and Sweden
(of Norway I'm not sure) early pocket books were sometimes printed so
that a Mickey story was inserted between duck-stories and there are also a
lot of german pockets missing. On the other hand in Finland pockets were
printed like in Germany. It seems that editors in Scandinavian countries
decided that German pockets were not good enough.

--
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