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M. Mitchell Marmel
Eero-Pekka Halinen
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Dr. Archontis Pantsios
Fellow Quackeroos:

Here're the contents of MIKY MAOUS & MEGALO MIKY:

1) MIKY MAOUS #1821, June 8, 2001
a) Donald & Fethry in "Giornalisti in carriera", from "Topolino" #2185, 1997
(27 pages). Script: Diego Fasano; Art: Andrea Freccero.
b) Uncle Scrooge in "Braccato speciale", from "Topolino" #1000, 1975 (23
pages). Script & art: Romano Scarpa.
c) Clarabell Cow in "The Gallery Owner", S-81177 (15 pages). Script & art:
The Disney Studio.
d) Gyro Gearloose in "Questo l'ho inventato io?: giochi d' acqua", from
"Topolino" #2229, 1998 (6 pages). Script: Giorgio Martignoni; Art: Stefano
Turconi.

2) MEGALO MIKY #406, June 2001
a) "Cinderella" (comic-book adaptation of the 1950 Disney classic), WDOS
#272 (35 pages). Artist unknown.
b) Uncle Scrooge in "The Sea-Piracy", S-77018 (14 pages). Script: The Disney
Studio; Art: Tony Strobl.
c) Pluto in "The Super Dog", S-85080 (12 pages). Script & art: The Disney
Studio.
d) The Junior Woodchucks in "The Radio-Hats" (6 pages), story code and
creators unknown.

Four summer specials titled "FESTIVAL" have been announced to be published
simultaneously: two will be dedicated to Mickey, one to Uncle Scrooge, and
one to Donald. More info when they hit the stands.

Cheers,

Archontis

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Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Assistant Academic Dean & Associate Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki, GREECE
tel.: +30 31 398 228
Apostolis Trikourakis
Hi all

Archontis wrote:

> Four summer specials titled "FESTIVAL" have been
> announced to be published simultaneously: two will
> be dedicated to Mickey, one to Uncle Scrooge, and
> one to Donald. More info when they hit the stands.

Like the 1999 "Special" series? Can you please make a
scan of the announcement?
Best Wishes

=====
Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens, Greece
E-mail: komixgreekpage at yahoo.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage

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Eero-Pekka Halinen (and EVERYONE):

> How do you quote (test) on this Mailing list?

Personally, I prefer it the way I just did: prefix every line with a '>'. My
mailer does that automatically, provided the message is "plain text" (in
stead of "rich text" or "html").

DCML messages are packed together in (more or less daily) digests. In these
digests, only plain text messages are stored in a perfectly readable way.
Other messages often contain a lot of garbage.

So if you can, please switch off the HTML option. Thanks.

> And how do you
> reply to someones message, that it's intended in the archive page?

Sorry, I don't know what is intended in the archive page - whatever that may
be. I'm an old-fashioned e-mail-only reader...

--Harry.
Olivier
Hi!

Shelley:
>>> I'm curious: are Duck fans also sci-fi fans? Or is it just a few of us?

Kriton:
>>Well, there's at least two of us. The question has popped up before,
>>so I guess there are even more.

Number three here! I don't know Heinlein.
But I do know & greatly appreciate Asimov, Crichton, H.G. Wells.
And Don Rosa ("The Universal Solvent", ...)

Harry:
>>And, since I'm the spelling nit-picker here: I found only two typos:
>>"Louisina", and "Guinea" (should be "Guyana").
>>[I hope I don't spoil any surprises with this sentence.]
No, not "nit-picker"; "guardian" or something-- in the "Guardians of the
Lost Library" sense.
Surely there must be a merit badge in "typo-tracking" & "language
integrity preservation". Lemme check. Yep, there is:
SPE.L.L.MAS.TE.R.
(Special Lexis & Language Mastery Enforcing Ranger)! ; )

Thanks. I can't explain the "Guyana" one. I'll upload the correction ASAP.
No spoiling. I think the (very easy) treasure hunt is over.
For those who haven't seen it yet, the fourth feature of the DRP (on M&D:
http://ob7.free.fr/mouse_ducks/ ) is indeed a map of young Scrooge's
adventures throughout the world, as told in Don Rosa's L&T.

A couple more things should be added-- ASAP again:
- StLouis
- the village of the Indians which gave the totem-- any idea as to its location?
Scrooge says "up North" or something in "Black Wednesday". I don't think
it's near the land of Peeweegahs, though. I'd rather place it farther west.
Would that be correct?
Eero-Pekka Halinen
>Shelley: >>> I'm curious: are Duck fans also sci-fi fans? Or is it just a
>few of us?
>
>Kriton: >>Well, there's at least two of us. The question has popped up
>before, >>so I guess there are even more.
>
>
>Number three here! I don't know Heinlein. But I do know & greatly
>appreciate Asimov, Crichton, H.G. Wells. And Don Rosa ("The Universal
>Solvent", ...)

And number four! Star Wars/Trek are the best. Douglas Adams also writes very
good stories. I enjoy reading fantasy too. Are there any fantasy-fans here?

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SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 6/18/2001 1:27:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:

> Well, there's at least two of us. The question has popped up before,
> so I guess there are even more. Last time we discussed it, someone
> mentioned that it takes the same amount of suspension of disbelief to
> read stories about spaceships travelling through the galaxy as it takes
> to read stories about talking ducks and mic

Actually it takes more! Talking ducks are much more beliveable!

(so howcome nobody has mentioned the 2 sf writers who wrote Disney stuff
in the 50s: William Nolan and Charles Beaumont?)

Steven (no sf since 1972, but I do read fantasy and horror) Rowe
Don Rosa
From: "Eero-Pekka Halinen" <e_halinen at hotmail.com>
>>>>Hey Don, are you going to make a sequel to this great, ticklying story?
("The Black Knight")

I invented Arpin Lusene only because I needed a villain to use the
Universal Solvent armor which was an idea from my 25-year-old "Pertwillaby
Papers" stories that I wanted to reuse. It actually comes from my original
version of the story that I mostly reused in "The Once and Future Duck"
about King Arthur. I got two Duck stories outta that one, not including the
"Universal Solvent" story which was separate, as had been the original
"Pertwillaby" version.
Anyway, my point is that I created a villain who did not want to steal
$crooge's money, only destroy it to make it *seem* as if he stole it. But
he doesn't need or want the money itself... he's wealthy enough and is not
so interested in money as he is in adventure (which is also my personal
interpretation of $crooge, even though he doesn't know his own mind as
Arpin understands himself). Anyway, I am in a position now where I created
a character that everyone wants another adventure of, but I don't know any
other way he could try to destroy all the money in the Bin without doing
any damage to the Bin. But I'll think of another plot when I have to. See,
my other problem is that nice publishers have *their* list of stories that
they want me to do, and I have my *own* list of stories that *I* want to
do, and I must balance the selection... plus I work veeerrrry slooooooow
anyway, so it takes forever to make much progress through the list of ideas
and get anything done. Look at just now: I finished that "Crusader Crown"
story a month ago, but I am still tied up with special projects for
publishers and collectors, and I am about to start on a period of camping,
traveling to a European (Luxembourg) convention and then to San Diego. I
can't seem to get going on the next story! If my stories weren't so
(inexplicably?) popular, I'd get a lot more of them done!

>>>Douglas Adams also writes very good stories.

You mean "wrote". Hadn't you heard?
Olivier
Sorry, hit the wring key and sent the previous message
before I could correct "Number three here!", which should
read "Number four here!" since Daniel posted after I started
this message & before I resumed it.

Eero-Pekka:
I have read the infamous book. It has nothing to do with
criticism in the noble sense (constructive literary criticism),
it's just full of anti-americanist political propaganda.

One outrageous example, quoted in Dana Gabard & Geoffrey Blum's
article "The Color of Truth is Gray" (CBL of U$a in Color # 24):
To prove how terrible Disney comics supposedly are,
they showed a panel from "Lost in the Andes". It's the one where
the Ducks are leaving and the head Plainawfultonian gives them
the compass; the Ducks in return will "teach them square-dancing!"
the panel they show (from a Chilean edition) reads instead:
"We'll teach them to stand to attention before their superiors!"
Gabard & Blum pointed out the translator had tried to keep a square pun.
But you can easily guess what Mattelard & Dorfman made of this. : (

Eero-Pekka (yes, I was interrupted while writing this)
>>Are there any fantasy-fans here?
I have only read Asimov's fantasy tales-- quite funny. But like such films
as "Willow".

Olivier

PS (Regarding the L&T map):
I intend to do a similar map for Mickey, Donald and Scrooge's adventures,
as told by Gottfredson, Barks and Don Rosa. But it'll take some time.
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Hello fellow fans!

Having been studying at a danish teacher's college for almost a year
now, I just spend some time thinking about schools in Duckburg.

This subject has several aspects. First claim from me: There's not
often shown scenes or stories from Duckburg school in the weekly. I
mean we often see the ducks on adventures, doing things in their spare
time, having different jobs and so on. I of course remember some times
when school was the subject of eg. a Barks-story - but some of those
have truant officers as main charecters as HDL don't want to go to
school in those stories.

I see something self-condradicting in the fact that the kids are often
shown as not wanting to go to school, and then, at the same time,
they're Junior Woodchucks, learning all kinds of things through that.
Oh - and being that they might not think they have any need for school
- as they can have it all at the JW's? Is that right or wrong of them?

In another story by Barks that I read in danish in 1993 or so, the
danish caption in the splash panel (Want to buy an island?) almost made
me ... throw up. It says, HD and L actually like to go to school, it's
so funnyyyy. At the time (in all my years at school) I was mobbed in
school so I didn't agree. But the story showed how happy HDL were to
learn something. Later though, I saw the original splash panel's
caption, it says kindergarten...

Maybe the fact that too many pupils are not happy about mobbing in
classes and pauses at school, explains a lot about why there aren't
many stories about it. Still I remember a quite good story where HDL
was confronted with one who wanted to mob others, and they try to do
something about it. In the end they make friends. I don't recall the
story code right now, sorry.

I remember another story, which I read in the 80'es when I was myself
what I consider a child. Back then I wasn't so interested in artists
and all, I just enjoyed the stories like a good boy;-) Of course that
is the porpouse of the stories for most people, and the childlike ones
(the ones who are children, or a such at heart) too. The story was
about HDL having to write an essay for the next day, so they run to
Gyro to ask for an idea. He coincidentally invented a time-mashine
(quite normal thing for him to do at that period of stories) and the
story is about several accidents that the multi artist Limonardo da
Vimsi causes (The name would read Lemonado da Clumsy or such in
American, if the story is published in a Gladstone comic or such). My
reason for mentioning that is that I of course saw what was behind that
name: Leonardo da Vinci, and so, I suddenly knew a bit about him.

I don't want to write too much about the studio-stories from the 60'es
even though some of them have school as subjects, where eg. Scrooge is
teacher in geography, Gyro in Chemistry and Grandma in Domestrial
Scinece (? - Home cooking?). I am not too fond of the stories made by
the Studio back then.

I come to think of the school drawings Don Rosa made for Finland in
1999. The 1-page drawing of those shows HDL wishing they were at
school, and as they're JW's hunting for knowledge I would understand
that. Still, it's been said here that it's somewhat a gag drawing? How?
In the way that we think of Barks showing the kids not wanting to go to
school because they are JW's or what? From my point of wiev it wouldn't
be the slightest strange if HD&L would be very bright pupils.

Maybe a problem is that they have been 10 years for how long? In the
stories we read today? If I had been in 4th grade, which is what we
attend at that age, where I live, for so many years I would be pretty
fed up with whatever it is they learn at that point.

In connection with this, I also notice that the kids (HDL) are very
interested in the Internet and computers in some new stories, and as a
kind of answer to S?ren, it doesn't botter me. I don't mind if every
writer or artist has his own wiev of Duckburg, I'll have one for every
writer or artist. If I eg. read a Don Rosa story, I am used to the fact
that the stories go on in the 50'es, and I read the Barks-stories more
or less the same way. Other stories can show HDL or Scrooge working
with internet or PC's as they're another kind of stories from my point
of wiev. The Scrooge of the firstmentioned kind of stories can't be
shown in a story in eg. the 90'es - not from my point of wiev. The
second-mentioned Scrooge is forever the age he was in his best years
with Barks, and HDL are 10 years old forever - and this would be
possible because Duckburg is either stuck in time, or (whoa!) without
time - in those stories that is.

So, coping with the fact (not fully accepting it) that I'm part of a
small minority of readers - socalled donaldists, who are very
interested in many different aspects of Duckburg - I wonder if the
usual reader would like it - or throw up - if he/she read about HDL in
school. Would it be okay to teach kids something through the Weekly?
Would it be fun to see HDL in school for a day - seeing what they
do/learn, what silly/wise teachers they have? The old codex (what not
to show and what to show) of Gutenberghus, the publisher in Denmark
before it was named back to Egmont, said that a writer/artists
shouldn't make the stories so that any particular group would be hated.
They for some reason mentioned teachers (!), but if a writer/artist
shows teachers as they really are (some are good, some aren't) would it
be okay today?

Large () (I should tell that I've been member of the staff of the local
school paper for the last year. The school is not only teacher's
college, though it's known for that, but also a special danish high
school form taking 2 years (higher prepertaion-exam, hf in danish).
Many of the pupils and a few teachers subscribe to our paper, which
comes out 5 times a year or so. For the last 4 numbers I've written a
column, on this my favorite interest, Ducks - Chances are that I make
take this subkect, school, as the thing for the 2nd column next school
year (the first coming will be music in Duck comics)) End of ()

I challenge any writer/artist/donaldist/fan/reader to come up with
ideas on this, discuss or comment.

(Stepping down from the sodapop-box)
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Hi
Is that the word, sodapop? I ended my last mail with it.
In the mentioned Kodex it's said that you can never show the chrecters
drinking wine, bear or anything stronger. You should show them drinking
lemonade or sodapop or something not damaging (how about teeth - when
talking about sodapop... :-)). Especially in Sweden this formed a large
tradition of the known fact that ducks drink L?skebl?sk, a possible
mixture of lemonade and sodapop. In Denmark I'm not sure we have that
tradition - the frontpage of Duckburg Times, which is shown from time
to time in the scandinavian weeklies, has ads for the drink from time
to time. The danish version tries to introduce (?) sodapop cola or
something.
I wonder if the known fact in Sweden originates in a barks-story, maybe
even the boxing story where Donald has been drinking much too much
sodapop, and the competitor is drinking milk from a strong siberian cow
or something.
I remember a gag from the danish translation of A little Something
Special (Don's Scrooge-50th-jubilee-story), where Donald wonders if
someone has put strong stuff in the lemonade at the party donwhill. The
way he says that, and the remembering of lemoande and soda being the
only things that are drunk (?) in Duckburg makes that very funny. I
wonder if the original has just the same pun in it?

A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Sue And Gary Leach
WL Lilly:

> Does Diamond own Gladstone outright?????

No. Diamond and Gladstone are separate companies.

> Did Hamilton put out
> (1) - The color comic EC reprints ( And the
> ultra-deluxe albums . ) ?

This gets a trifle confusing, so bear with me. When Disney did not renew
Gladstone's Disney comics license in 1989, Gladstone sought other pastures
and got a license to reprint EC comics. We did several issues under the
Gladstone imprint, but then Russ Cochran, who had been publishing the EC
"untra-deluxe albums" and the EC Library (an equivalent series to the
original Carl Barks Library), acquired the EC comics license and has been
publishing those ever since (has just completed reprinting everything EC in
comics form, as a matter of fact). Some years back Diamond acquired Russ
Cochran's publishing operation, EC reprints and all, and that apparently was
the impetus for Diamond to establish Gemstone, the imprint that may soon
assume the publishing duties for US Disney comics.

> (2) - A MIGHTY MORPHIN POWER RANGERS comic ,
> briefly , in the mid-Nineties ?

Yes, Hamilton Comics, Gladstone's companion imprint under the parent
umbrella of The Bruce Hamilton Company, did publish Mighty Morphin Power
Rangers for a while.

> (3) - A - possibly giveaway/promotion only - EEK THE
> CAT comic book ? ( I'd really like to find out about
> this one !)

A three-issue Eek the Cat comic was published by Hamilton for ANCO, a
distributor that boasted Wal Mart among its outlets at the time. Once the
comics were in ANCO's hands, our involvement with them ended. The full
extent of the distribution of these comics is something only ANCO knows.

> (4) - Such other minor things as an attempt to bring
> back Warren-style black and white horror comics , and
> a ( Now-retired US basketball star , ) " Sir " Charles
> Barkley graphic novel ?????????

The horror mags were our first Hamilton Comics projects (and doing them was
no minor thing, believe me). Others were the Sir Charles Barkley graphic
novel, a Felix the Cat album, a movie adaptation of "Freeked" (this, like
Eek, for ANCO), two issues of Madraven Stark (a spinoff from the horror
mags), and, of course, The Unexpurgated Carl Barks.

Sheesh, I wonder if even I'll be able to keep all this straight in twenty
years.

Gary Leach
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Eero-Pekka:

Welcome to this list!

I borrowed the book some times, and read here an there.
I eg. used it in connection with a school report on Disney, Barks,
Don,charecters and analysis of the ducks.
My opinion back then, towards the book was very negative, in a perhaps
childish way. I saw it as an insult to me.
I never had the chance to get to buy the book, as that would make me
read it eventually.

One thing I can say is that it might be made on a wrong reason, the
chilean duck comics, which had been translated, and perhaps not by good
translators and thereby becoming something else than original. All
editions of the book were translated back into the published language
from the chilean dialogue in the comic-book examples.

I must say their angryness towards capitalism is somewhat
understandable, but it's unfair against Scrooge.
Reasons: He is a gag, put together of capitalists, Barks most possibly
made him as somehow ridicoulous in his richness as possible, so that it
would be obvious that he's making fun of other capitalists.
And, In any case I don't see what's wrong about working ones hard way
to the top - Somehow Scrooge might be an evil capitalist, but he
litterary has a heart of gold - his payment to the employees is maybe
not to be discussed...

Your english is fine, Eero - the word you thought about, btw. the black
stuff, is called Omnisolve.

A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
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