Francois:
>I have got a list of Gottfredson Mickey Mouse daily strips from Disney,
with
>information regarding stories that are censored. The list also has
>information about publications in Europe, the quality of films, summaries,
>etc. I though that might be interesting, so here it is: (...)
So it's an official thing?! From were came this list? All the publishers
around the world received this list?
How much I hate censorship on art things... >:(
Fernando!
Author
Topic: 200106
(445 messages)
Fernando Ventura
Francois: Censored stories!
Message 391 -
2001-06-26 at 02:13:45
Dennis Books
MEXICAN COMIC CARL BARKS UNUSUAL
Message 392 -
2001-06-26 at 07:31:02
DANIEL,
THIS COMIC IS ONE FROM EIGHT DIFFERENT SETS, THE FIRST SEVEN SETS CONTAINING SIXTEEN COMICS EACH, THE LAST SET WITH ONLY EIGHT, FOR A TOTAL OF 120 COMICS. ALL WERE PUBLISHED IN 1946 IN MEXICO.
IT IS MY OPINION THAT THIS ISSUE IS NOT CARLS ART. THE DONALD IN THE CENTER FOLD IS CLOSER TO TALIAFERRO, BUT IT IS PROBABLY NOT HIS EITHER.
OHER ISSUES APPEAR TO CONTAIN BARKS ,TALIAFERRO, GOTTFREDSON AND OTHERS.
THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THESE MINATURE COMICS IS THE NUMBER OF DISNEY CHARACTERS SELDOM SEEN ,ONE EACH ON THE BACK OF THESE TWENTY PAGERS. THEY WERE TO BE CUT OUT AND MADE INTO LITTLE STANDUPS.
BEST...DENNIS
---------------------------------
Do You Yahoo!?
Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year!
http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
THIS COMIC IS ONE FROM EIGHT DIFFERENT SETS, THE FIRST SEVEN SETS CONTAINING SIXTEEN COMICS EACH, THE LAST SET WITH ONLY EIGHT, FOR A TOTAL OF 120 COMICS. ALL WERE PUBLISHED IN 1946 IN MEXICO.
IT IS MY OPINION THAT THIS ISSUE IS NOT CARLS ART. THE DONALD IN THE CENTER FOLD IS CLOSER TO TALIAFERRO, BUT IT IS PROBABLY NOT HIS EITHER.
OHER ISSUES APPEAR TO CONTAIN BARKS ,TALIAFERRO, GOTTFREDSON AND OTHERS.
THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THESE MINATURE COMICS IS THE NUMBER OF DISNEY CHARACTERS SELDOM SEEN ,ONE EACH ON THE BACK OF THESE TWENTY PAGERS. THEY WERE TO BE CUT OUT AND MADE INTO LITTLE STANDUPS.
BEST...DENNIS
---------------------------------
Do You Yahoo!?
Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year!
http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Olivier
Picsou Magazine
Message 393 -
2001-06-26 at 10:16:35
Hello everyone!
L00nE2n at aol.com <L00nE2n at aol.com>
(As someone said, please sign when your e-mail
doesn't contain your name, as I do):
>>I'll be going to France soon. I was wondering if anyone had any
>>information about the latest Picsou magazine, i.e., contents,
>>price, where it can be found.
First, chances are, it'll be the next issue when you arrive, so I don't
know the contents.
AS for the latest (June, PM 353), I don't have it, but Gilles told me
there is "Island in the Sky" (U$ 29), "The Golden Nugget Boat"
(U$ 35), a few Barks ten-pagers and two versions (including the
Jippes one) of a story written by Barks, "A Day in a Duck's Life"
(DD 138 & H 9885); now this sounds interesting; I overlooked it
when I first read the message.
The price is 19F (2.9 euros).
Le Journal de Mickey is 9.80F (1.5 euros).
Super Picsou G?ant is 25F (3.8 euros).
You can find Disney magazines (Picsou Magazine, Le Journal de
Mickey, Super Picsou G?ant, Mickey Parade, ...) in every
newsstand / kiosk.
As for finding back issues, I have childhood memories
of bookshops selling bags of back issues in touristic places
(not Paris, though, where the beaches are), but don't know whether
they still do.
Ordering back issues is extremely difficult.
I have been trying to get some for more than a month! It is very
complicated and absurd: you have to phone to check the issues
are available, but cannot order them by phone, you have to write,
so by the time they read your letter, some issues are out of print
and they send you your check back, and you have to phone, and...
Have a nice stay in France!
And a nice summer to everyone!
Olivier
(33-5?C yesterday afternoon; should be more today)
L00nE2n at aol.com <L00nE2n at aol.com>
(As someone said, please sign when your e-mail
doesn't contain your name, as I do):
>>I'll be going to France soon. I was wondering if anyone had any
>>information about the latest Picsou magazine, i.e., contents,
>>price, where it can be found.
First, chances are, it'll be the next issue when you arrive, so I don't
know the contents.
AS for the latest (June, PM 353), I don't have it, but Gilles told me
there is "Island in the Sky" (U$ 29), "The Golden Nugget Boat"
(U$ 35), a few Barks ten-pagers and two versions (including the
Jippes one) of a story written by Barks, "A Day in a Duck's Life"
(DD 138 & H 9885); now this sounds interesting; I overlooked it
when I first read the message.
The price is 19F (2.9 euros).
Le Journal de Mickey is 9.80F (1.5 euros).
Super Picsou G?ant is 25F (3.8 euros).
You can find Disney magazines (Picsou Magazine, Le Journal de
Mickey, Super Picsou G?ant, Mickey Parade, ...) in every
newsstand / kiosk.
As for finding back issues, I have childhood memories
of bookshops selling bags of back issues in touristic places
(not Paris, though, where the beaches are), but don't know whether
they still do.
Ordering back issues is extremely difficult.
I have been trying to get some for more than a month! It is very
complicated and absurd: you have to phone to check the issues
are available, but cannot order them by phone, you have to write,
so by the time they read your letter, some issues are out of print
and they send you your check back, and you have to phone, and...
Have a nice stay in France!
And a nice summer to everyone!
Olivier
(33-5?C yesterday afternoon; should be more today)
Halsten Aastebol
Barks' European popularity - an anecdote
Message 394 -
2001-06-26 at 10:59:29
At 23:31 24.06.01 +0000, Owen Heitmann wrote:
>Well, here comes my point (yes, I do have one). I was at a party thrown by
>one of my University friends (in Adelaide, South Australia) on the
>weekend, and one of the people there was a Norwegian exchange student.
>After a couple of drinks, it suddenly occurred to me that this was a prime
>chance to test the Ducks' real popularity. The exchange student (who was
>around 21 years old) was about as close to a totally random Norwegian as
>I'm likely to encounter. Also, as a friend of a friend of a friend, the
>chance of him being a comic book geek like myself shouldn't have been any
>higher than normal. So I walked up to him and asked directly (to avoid the
>possibility of any leading questions contaminating the experiment) "Do you
>know who Carl Barks is?"
>
>He looked at me, his eyes widened, and then with a big smile he said, "Oh,
>you read the Disney ducks? You know Don Rosa?"
>
>I couldn't believe it. The legends were true! My jaw just about hit the floor.
>
>Sure, it's not exactly the most scientific survey in the world, but it's
>convinced me. Just something I thought I'd share.
As a Norwegian I feel compelled to answer this. Surely the names of Carl
Barks and Don Rosa have become rather well known during the last ten years
due to a number of articles (some quite long) in major newspapers,
mentioning on TV and of course articles in the comic magazines and books.
But there is a difference between "rather well known" and "household
names". So I think your initial assumption that there is some exaggeration
into the picture is correct. But only some, not much exaggeration!
You talked to a male exchange student. This means your test person is
already somewhat biased. You see:
- He's a he.
- He's a student/academic
- He likes adventure (taking part of his education in far away Australia)
Adds up to a possibility well above average that he knows who Carl
Barks was. If on the other hand
- he had been a she
- had no education at university level
chances are much higher that the answer to your question would have been "Huh?"
Actually for kids who have been growing up during the 90s, this will be a
bit different because they will have learnt Carl's name through the comic
magazines. My generation never did that.
Halsten
>Well, here comes my point (yes, I do have one). I was at a party thrown by
>one of my University friends (in Adelaide, South Australia) on the
>weekend, and one of the people there was a Norwegian exchange student.
>After a couple of drinks, it suddenly occurred to me that this was a prime
>chance to test the Ducks' real popularity. The exchange student (who was
>around 21 years old) was about as close to a totally random Norwegian as
>I'm likely to encounter. Also, as a friend of a friend of a friend, the
>chance of him being a comic book geek like myself shouldn't have been any
>higher than normal. So I walked up to him and asked directly (to avoid the
>possibility of any leading questions contaminating the experiment) "Do you
>know who Carl Barks is?"
>
>He looked at me, his eyes widened, and then with a big smile he said, "Oh,
>you read the Disney ducks? You know Don Rosa?"
>
>I couldn't believe it. The legends were true! My jaw just about hit the floor.
>
>Sure, it's not exactly the most scientific survey in the world, but it's
>convinced me. Just something I thought I'd share.
As a Norwegian I feel compelled to answer this. Surely the names of Carl
Barks and Don Rosa have become rather well known during the last ten years
due to a number of articles (some quite long) in major newspapers,
mentioning on TV and of course articles in the comic magazines and books.
But there is a difference between "rather well known" and "household
names". So I think your initial assumption that there is some exaggeration
into the picture is correct. But only some, not much exaggeration!
You talked to a male exchange student. This means your test person is
already somewhat biased. You see:
- He's a he.
- He's a student/academic
- He likes adventure (taking part of his education in far away Australia)
Adds up to a possibility well above average that he knows who Carl
Barks was. If on the other hand
- he had been a she
- had no education at university level
chances are much higher that the answer to your question would have been "Huh?"
Actually for kids who have been growing up during the 90s, this will be a
bit different because they will have learnt Carl's name through the comic
magazines. My generation never did that.
Halsten
Halsten Aastebol
Lucky dime
Message 395 -
2001-06-26 at 11:34:01
DON ROSA:
I should have replied to this a long time ago. Now i can't find your
original message. You wrote to this list about the term "lykketioring"
that's being used for Scrooge's first dime in Norway (and maybe also in
Denmark and Sweden). Initially you did not appreciate this term because it
seemed to translate into "lucky dime" in English. But then somebody told
you that "lykke" means happiness. Hence the meaning could be "happy dime"
which you found to be OK. Well, sorry but this somebody must have been
trying to please you here. Surely the word "lykke" can mean happiness when
it stands alone. But combined with some kind of physical object like a
"tioring" (dime) there is now way this can be interpreted as anything other
than a good luck charm. The term probably stems from Barks, who to his own
later displeasure, used the term lucky dime in a couple of occasions.
Halsten
I should have replied to this a long time ago. Now i can't find your
original message. You wrote to this list about the term "lykketioring"
that's being used for Scrooge's first dime in Norway (and maybe also in
Denmark and Sweden). Initially you did not appreciate this term because it
seemed to translate into "lucky dime" in English. But then somebody told
you that "lykke" means happiness. Hence the meaning could be "happy dime"
which you found to be OK. Well, sorry but this somebody must have been
trying to please you here. Surely the word "lykke" can mean happiness when
it stands alone. But combined with some kind of physical object like a
"tioring" (dime) there is now way this can be interpreted as anything other
than a good luck charm. The term probably stems from Barks, who to his own
later displeasure, used the term lucky dime in a couple of occasions.
Halsten
DGE
588: Schools, weekly
Message 396 -
2001-06-26 at 12:14:11
Hey AC:
>about the wolves, they seem to have gone too.
True, the wolves have been gone from the Egmont weekly for a while,
but not forever. Look for a classic Dutch Wolf story, new to Scandinavia, in
issue 28 - just two weeks away.
That same #28 will have some other interesting stories in it
(heh-heh!) so keep your eyes peeled.
David Gerstein
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>
>about the wolves, they seem to have gone too.
True, the wolves have been gone from the Egmont weekly for a while,
but not forever. Look for a classic Dutch Wolf story, new to Scandinavia, in
issue 28 - just two weeks away.
That same #28 will have some other interesting stories in it
(heh-heh!) so keep your eyes peeled.
David Gerstein
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>
Francois Willot
Censored stories!
Message 397 -
2001-06-26 at 12:25:09
FERNANDO
>>I have got a list of Gottfredson Mickey Mouse daily
>>strips from Disney, with information regarding
>>stories that are censored. The list also has
>>information about publications in Europe, the
>>quality of films, summaries, etc. I though that
>>might be interesting, so here it is: (...)
>
>So it's an official thing?! From were came this list?
Somehow yes. It is a list Hachette had a few years
ago. I can scan it so you can all see how it looks
like, but it'd not be very interesting I guess.
>All the publishers around the world received this
>list?
I don't know, and maybe (probably) there are several
such lists, with changes over the years. Some editors
at least received it. (Not only to know what stories
they can publish, but also if the quality of films is
suffucient for printing, etc.).
Since these stories are "banned", maybe someone will
put extracts on the web for us?
Francois
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail
http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
>>I have got a list of Gottfredson Mickey Mouse daily
>>strips from Disney, with information regarding
>>stories that are censored. The list also has
>>information about publications in Europe, the
>>quality of films, summaries, etc. I though that
>>might be interesting, so here it is: (...)
>
>So it's an official thing?! From were came this list?
Somehow yes. It is a list Hachette had a few years
ago. I can scan it so you can all see how it looks
like, but it'd not be very interesting I guess.
>All the publishers around the world received this
>list?
I don't know, and maybe (probably) there are several
such lists, with changes over the years. Some editors
at least received it. (Not only to know what stories
they can publish, but also if the quality of films is
suffucient for printing, etc.).
Since these stories are "banned", maybe someone will
put extracts on the web for us?
Francois
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail
http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Kriton Kyrimis
La Pietra Zodiacale
Message 398 -
2001-06-26 at 14:03:24
SPREA:
> > (Note: MM has announced that starting this week, it'll re-print "La Pietra
> > Zodiacale" in 12 installments).
>
> Again? Seems to be a very loved story there :-)
Well, last time Archontis mentioned that they would be reprintining that
series, it turned out that they didn't, so it's been a while since that
story was last printed over here.
Judging from the first installment, I was not particularly impressed.
On the other hand, I was not particularly impressed with "The Ice Sword"
or "Once Upon A Time in America" (or whatever that series about Mickey's
ancestors taking part in key moments of early American history was
called) either, so what do I know?
Judging from my previous postings, and from a discussion I had with
Archontis on the subject of new Italian Artists, I'm beginning to suspect
that I'm turning into a grouchy old man who's stuck in the past, refusing
to see any value in change. :(
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced."
-----
> > (Note: MM has announced that starting this week, it'll re-print "La Pietra
> > Zodiacale" in 12 installments).
>
> Again? Seems to be a very loved story there :-)
Well, last time Archontis mentioned that they would be reprintining that
series, it turned out that they didn't, so it's been a while since that
story was last printed over here.
Judging from the first installment, I was not particularly impressed.
On the other hand, I was not particularly impressed with "The Ice Sword"
or "Once Upon A Time in America" (or whatever that series about Mickey's
ancestors taking part in key moments of early American history was
called) either, so what do I know?
Judging from my previous postings, and from a discussion I had with
Archontis on the subject of new Italian Artists, I'm beginning to suspect
that I'm turning into a grouchy old man who's stuck in the past, refusing
to see any value in change. :(
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced."
-----
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Music in Duckburg
Message 399 -
2001-06-26 at 14:27:17
Hi friends!
As said, my coming column for the school magazine will be about Music
in Duckburg.
For fun and possible additions from you people here, I'll tell you
which stories I have in mind so far.
First of all I remember some stories by Barks where Donald wants the
kids to learn to play.
There's one where he makes some set-up so they only pretend to play
when Grandma watches.
Another story shows how HDL wants their Uncle to be a famous singer.
We all know the old classic with the schlager, Oh burry my tar with my
battered Gi'Tar...
In the very last 10-pager by Barks, we hear Donald reciting lines from
that song about the albatros. I was really laughing myself to dead when
I first read that story. It's really insane - Donald is completely
crazy from
being tired!
Additions are welcome, I might have forgotten some Barks-stories.
Something tells me it will be the longest column I write so far,
since I am thinking about mentioning these Rosa-stories with notes
or singing. We have:
Once and Future Ducks (Myrdin sings some very ugly notes at a time)
Black Knight - the chevalier noir goes around humming little pieces of
classics all the time. I would really like to know where they come from
The Triple Distlefink - The cab is stuck to a lorry with a chauffeur
who plays Wagner so that you can't hear what you're thinking!
Quest for Kalevala - the music of the Kantele, quite beutiful - and
thanks to Nils, I know which meldoes it plays (Wagner, Finlandia etc.)
The 3 Cabelleroes ride again - is definitely going to be mentioned,
with those genius note-lines above the panels where they sing -
I never, repeating: never saw something like that before. If you
did, please tell me.
As with Barks additions are welcome - as Don likes music, there must be
some I forgot.
HDL have been fond of certain singers, such as an Elwis-like one when
he was hot.
DD was going nuts when a popular song (in danish version it was an
euphemism of the dub-i-dub song by the sisters Me and My) was played
everywhere he got a job, even all the 6 months he had volunteered to
spend in space - to get rid of the song.
Little Wolf and the Pigs were wild about a group playing in the forest,
and they helped them - in a story I remember well, cause I read it just
after I had learned to read.
I remember Goofy helping some group, being a stand-in for a popstar who
looked very much like Goofy...
As you can see, I already have enough for at least two pages, but as
there's no limitations here, please tell me of any music-comic I
forgot.
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
As said, my coming column for the school magazine will be about Music
in Duckburg.
For fun and possible additions from you people here, I'll tell you
which stories I have in mind so far.
First of all I remember some stories by Barks where Donald wants the
kids to learn to play.
There's one where he makes some set-up so they only pretend to play
when Grandma watches.
Another story shows how HDL wants their Uncle to be a famous singer.
We all know the old classic with the schlager, Oh burry my tar with my
battered Gi'Tar...
In the very last 10-pager by Barks, we hear Donald reciting lines from
that song about the albatros. I was really laughing myself to dead when
I first read that story. It's really insane - Donald is completely
crazy from
being tired!
Additions are welcome, I might have forgotten some Barks-stories.
Something tells me it will be the longest column I write so far,
since I am thinking about mentioning these Rosa-stories with notes
or singing. We have:
Once and Future Ducks (Myrdin sings some very ugly notes at a time)
Black Knight - the chevalier noir goes around humming little pieces of
classics all the time. I would really like to know where they come from
The Triple Distlefink - The cab is stuck to a lorry with a chauffeur
who plays Wagner so that you can't hear what you're thinking!
Quest for Kalevala - the music of the Kantele, quite beutiful - and
thanks to Nils, I know which meldoes it plays (Wagner, Finlandia etc.)
The 3 Cabelleroes ride again - is definitely going to be mentioned,
with those genius note-lines above the panels where they sing -
I never, repeating: never saw something like that before. If you
did, please tell me.
As with Barks additions are welcome - as Don likes music, there must be
some I forgot.
HDL have been fond of certain singers, such as an Elwis-like one when
he was hot.
DD was going nuts when a popular song (in danish version it was an
euphemism of the dub-i-dub song by the sisters Me and My) was played
everywhere he got a job, even all the 6 months he had volunteered to
spend in space - to get rid of the song.
Little Wolf and the Pigs were wild about a group playing in the forest,
and they helped them - in a story I remember well, cause I read it just
after I had learned to read.
I remember Goofy helping some group, being a stand-in for a popstar who
looked very much like Goofy...
As you can see, I already have enough for at least two pages, but as
there's no limitations here, please tell me of any music-comic I
forgot.
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Francesco Spreafico
La Pietra Zodiacale
Message 400 -
2001-06-26 at 14:39:47
From: "Kriton Kyrimis" <kyrimis at cti.gr>
> Judging from the first installment, I was not particularly impressed.
Uh? I thought Archontis meant "next week" since there's no trace of it in
the summary he provided for MM 1822.
> On the other hand, I was not particularly impressed with "The Ice Sword"
> or "Once Upon A Time in America" (or whatever that series about Mickey's
> ancestors taking part in key moments of early American history was
> called) either, so what do I know?
Strange for the "Ice Sword", not so strange for the "Once Upon a Time in
America". The "Ice Sword" is mainly one single story, with perfect art
(perfect character design and perfect background), and perfect script
(characters who are really themselves).
The "Once Upon A Time in America" series is actually many and many stories,
not just one, and the charactars are *not* themselves because they're not
Micky and Goofy, just theri ancestors (or something), and this makes a big
difference for me. esides, I like Massimo De Vita's art from the '80's
best.
The "Pietra Zodiacale" stories have, unfortunately, some parts by Franco
Valussi, and of course his art is not as great as De Vita's.
> Judging from my previous postings, and from a discussion I had with
> Archontis on the subject of new Italian Artists, I'm beginning to suspect
> that I'm turning into a grouchy old man who's stuck in the past, refusing
> to see any value in change. :(
Massimo De Vita is no *new* Italian artist :-)
--
Sprea
> Judging from the first installment, I was not particularly impressed.
Uh? I thought Archontis meant "next week" since there's no trace of it in
the summary he provided for MM 1822.
> On the other hand, I was not particularly impressed with "The Ice Sword"
> or "Once Upon A Time in America" (or whatever that series about Mickey's
> ancestors taking part in key moments of early American history was
> called) either, so what do I know?
Strange for the "Ice Sword", not so strange for the "Once Upon a Time in
America". The "Ice Sword" is mainly one single story, with perfect art
(perfect character design and perfect background), and perfect script
(characters who are really themselves).
The "Once Upon A Time in America" series is actually many and many stories,
not just one, and the charactars are *not* themselves because they're not
Micky and Goofy, just theri ancestors (or something), and this makes a big
difference for me. esides, I like Massimo De Vita's art from the '80's
best.
The "Pietra Zodiacale" stories have, unfortunately, some parts by Franco
Valussi, and of course his art is not as great as De Vita's.
> Judging from my previous postings, and from a discussion I had with
> Archontis on the subject of new Italian Artists, I'm beginning to suspect
> that I'm turning into a grouchy old man who's stuck in the past, refusing
> to see any value in change. :(
Massimo De Vita is no *new* Italian artist :-)
--
Sprea
Anders Christian Sivebaek
The anecdote about Ducks
Message 401 -
2001-06-26 at 14:58:24
OWEN
You somehow did right in doubting that the Ducks are so popular in
Europe, and I'm glad that you found that they are. Your little story
about the norwegian guy on my own age had my laughing out loud -
he could be one of my friends from here or from duckhunt.
You wont believe how known those Ducks are here. Eg. When
Barks passed away ;-)... all media told about it, it was on the
head news in the headlines,
Channel 2 resended a documentary program with an interview from
1994 and so on.
I remember in 1997 when don was here. The only reason I got to know
about it was the news: The were there with their camera, showing this
popular artist who just had a book published about Scrooge (That's not
the whole true story, but what they told).
On the ferry from Norway I saw two kids sitting an reading their
Duck-weekly - thinking about it, that's not something I see everyday
here. The fans are of course active here and in their fanzines all
around Scandinavia and the rest of Europe.
I might have told that I live on campus near the teacher's college
where I study.
On the floor we started out being 10 or so. All people there now the
Ducks. 3 (including myself) are hard-core fans. my next-door
neighbour, a boyfriend of one of the fans, and another girl living on
the floor have become quite knowing about Don Rosa, his
dedications and his style, thanks to me.
Jacob, the other male fan likes detailed styles, and therefore he's
quite anxious to borrow my Rosas from time to time. Rikke (female fan)
is just a hard-core reader though. She thinks about Rosas drawings
that they're too strange. Her boyfriend on the other hand, who didn't
read ducks before, said about Rosa that it's the bext duck-style he
saw...
People know the ducks and of course have different opinions on them.
I wouldn't have been able to get a chair in the editing group of the
school mag. had it not been for a nice fellow fan who writes a music
column there. He knows quite many Barks-stories too.
Don is very popular in Norway you know, ducks are. You can see that
also from the news paper articles that they print.
HALSTEN
You're quite right. Had he been a she, it would have been more likely
to be a
negative answer, maybe not a huh? But a: are you still reading comics??
But I know quite a few female readers, you know!
Yes, wellknown, perhaps not a household name - of course this household
knows
him (Him being Barks Rosa or Milton or Rob Klein)
And you're right about the wanting adventure: His reason for going to
Australia
might originate in some Barks story! My main reason for going to
America would
certainly be because of stories I read, and friends I would like to
meet - friends
I met via this my great interest in ducks.
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
You somehow did right in doubting that the Ducks are so popular in
Europe, and I'm glad that you found that they are. Your little story
about the norwegian guy on my own age had my laughing out loud -
he could be one of my friends from here or from duckhunt.
You wont believe how known those Ducks are here. Eg. When
Barks passed away ;-)... all media told about it, it was on the
head news in the headlines,
Channel 2 resended a documentary program with an interview from
1994 and so on.
I remember in 1997 when don was here. The only reason I got to know
about it was the news: The were there with their camera, showing this
popular artist who just had a book published about Scrooge (That's not
the whole true story, but what they told).
On the ferry from Norway I saw two kids sitting an reading their
Duck-weekly - thinking about it, that's not something I see everyday
here. The fans are of course active here and in their fanzines all
around Scandinavia and the rest of Europe.
I might have told that I live on campus near the teacher's college
where I study.
On the floor we started out being 10 or so. All people there now the
Ducks. 3 (including myself) are hard-core fans. my next-door
neighbour, a boyfriend of one of the fans, and another girl living on
the floor have become quite knowing about Don Rosa, his
dedications and his style, thanks to me.
Jacob, the other male fan likes detailed styles, and therefore he's
quite anxious to borrow my Rosas from time to time. Rikke (female fan)
is just a hard-core reader though. She thinks about Rosas drawings
that they're too strange. Her boyfriend on the other hand, who didn't
read ducks before, said about Rosa that it's the bext duck-style he
saw...
People know the ducks and of course have different opinions on them.
I wouldn't have been able to get a chair in the editing group of the
school mag. had it not been for a nice fellow fan who writes a music
column there. He knows quite many Barks-stories too.
Don is very popular in Norway you know, ducks are. You can see that
also from the news paper articles that they print.
HALSTEN
You're quite right. Had he been a she, it would have been more likely
to be a
negative answer, maybe not a huh? But a: are you still reading comics??
But I know quite a few female readers, you know!
Yes, wellknown, perhaps not a household name - of course this household
knows
him (Him being Barks Rosa or Milton or Rob Klein)
And you're right about the wanting adventure: His reason for going to
Australia
might originate in some Barks story! My main reason for going to
America would
certainly be because of stories I read, and friends I would like to
meet - friends
I met via this my great interest in ducks.
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Francois Willot
The anecdote about Ducks
Message 402 -
2001-06-26 at 15:49:59
Owen and Anders talked about the exageration or
non-exageration of Barks' popularity in Europe.
I have been surprised myself by how many of the French
people (young, male for most of them) know Barks. I
would estimate that 2 thirds of this part of the
French population know who the Duck man is.
I think this is a recent phenomenon, due to the
abondance of Disney comics and the fact that Barks is
mentioned and credited in every issue of Picsou
Magazine (we own this to Pascal Pierrey, the editor of
Picsou). In the 80s, Barks' name seldom appeared,
based on the (wrong) assumption that readers do not
care about names, and about history of Disney comics.
Articles appeared in the Journal de Mickey in the mid
80s, after such books like The Carls Barks Librairy or
the Another Rainbow Barks oils book were published.
In the medias, the coverage of Barks' death was tiny,
except for a few newspapers (Liberation). The French
Belgium comics are seen as much more adults and
important (which is not totally wrong. I think French
comics are better on average to Disney comics).
Francois
(Yes, I am supposed to work)
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail
http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
non-exageration of Barks' popularity in Europe.
I have been surprised myself by how many of the French
people (young, male for most of them) know Barks. I
would estimate that 2 thirds of this part of the
French population know who the Duck man is.
I think this is a recent phenomenon, due to the
abondance of Disney comics and the fact that Barks is
mentioned and credited in every issue of Picsou
Magazine (we own this to Pascal Pierrey, the editor of
Picsou). In the 80s, Barks' name seldom appeared,
based on the (wrong) assumption that readers do not
care about names, and about history of Disney comics.
Articles appeared in the Journal de Mickey in the mid
80s, after such books like The Carls Barks Librairy or
the Another Rainbow Barks oils book were published.
In the medias, the coverage of Barks' death was tiny,
except for a few newspapers (Liberation). The French
Belgium comics are seen as much more adults and
important (which is not totally wrong. I think French
comics are better on average to Disney comics).
Francois
(Yes, I am supposed to work)
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail
http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Olivier
Music in Duckburg
Message 403 -
2001-06-26 at 18:54:05
Hi again!
Anders Christian:
>>Something tells me it will be the longest column I write so far
What about a series of columns ("to be continued")?
There certainly is *a lot* to write on the subject.
>>Additions are welcome, I might have forgotten some Barks-stories.
OK, here are couple more-- some with musical instruments / a few notes /
references to music, and others where music is a key element (key: eh eh;
get it?; never mind...).
I also included those you mentioned, to identify them and give some quotes.
(By the way, "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner" is not a song)
You will find the list at:
http://ob7.free.fr/mouse_ducks/articles/musicl.htm
Olivier
Anders Christian:
>>Something tells me it will be the longest column I write so far
What about a series of columns ("to be continued")?
There certainly is *a lot* to write on the subject.
>>Additions are welcome, I might have forgotten some Barks-stories.
OK, here are couple more-- some with musical instruments / a few notes /
references to music, and others where music is a key element (key: eh eh;
get it?; never mind...).
I also included those you mentioned, to identify them and give some quotes.
(By the way, "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner" is not a song)
You will find the list at:
http://ob7.free.fr/mouse_ducks/articles/musicl.htm
Olivier
WL Lilly
" Banned " Mickey
Message 404 -
2001-06-27 at 00:19:18
Did anybody here ever have the " The Uncensored
Mouse " comic book from Malibu/Eternity Publications
from the late 80s/early 90s in the U.S. ? It reprinted
Mickey Mouse daily strips , which Disney no longer
approves reprinting , from the beginning . It ran two
issues befor Disney's lawyers quashed it .
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail
http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Mouse " comic book from Malibu/Eternity Publications
from the late 80s/early 90s in the U.S. ? It reprinted
Mickey Mouse daily strips , which Disney no longer
approves reprinting , from the beginning . It ran two
issues befor Disney's lawyers quashed it .
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail
http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Søren Krarup Olesen
588: Schools, weekly
Message 405 -
2001-06-27 at 01:03:49
AC:
> I remember some of the other stories you mention, one about Donald as a
> substitute teacher in the danish pocket no. 3 from 1969 or so. That was
> italian. I do have memories of paperinik in school too, but I don't
> know where they come from (thick or thin pocket)
Really? It's "Paperinik e il primo giorno di scuola" (I TL 1285-B)
drawn by late Scala. You'll find it in JB 40. Quite an interesting
story from Concina--one of those stories I don't really like but for
some reason can't get out of my head. If you don't have JB 40, go get
it for only 2$ in your local store, AC! :-)
Søren
> I remember some of the other stories you mention, one about Donald as a
> substitute teacher in the danish pocket no. 3 from 1969 or so. That was
> italian. I do have memories of paperinik in school too, but I don't
> know where they come from (thick or thin pocket)
Really? It's "Paperinik e il primo giorno di scuola" (I TL 1285-B)
drawn by late Scala. You'll find it in JB 40. Quite an interesting
story from Concina--one of those stories I don't really like but for
some reason can't get out of my head. If you don't have JB 40, go get
it for only 2$ in your local store, AC! :-)
Søren