Take your Kyoto treaty, take your Nato alliance, and
shove them up your ass. America never asked to be the
world's fucking cop, but yet who are ya gonna call
when there's yet another military situation you
fucking pansies can't handle.
Uncle Sam.
Andy Row
http://www.geocities.com/tobydog9/
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Andy Row
Europe (OT)
Message 211 -
2001-06-16 at 06:13:26
SRoweCanoe
Best Wishes
Message 212 -
2001-06-16 at 06:20:46
In a message dated 6/15/2001 10:39:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:
> About my "best wishes" signature: it accompanies all of my DCML emails.
> I wish everyone the best, so I've never been concerned about which of my
> emails can or cannot be accompanied with "best wishes" as signature.
>
> Maybe it's an improper or strange way of greeting people in English?
> If so, I will change it into something else. I welcome any advice on this.
>
Saying "Best Wishes" after you've said something nice is fine, saying "Best
Wishes" after you've said something not-nice is not fine: it's sarcasm.
Steven Rowe
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:
> About my "best wishes" signature: it accompanies all of my DCML emails.
> I wish everyone the best, so I've never been concerned about which of my
> emails can or cannot be accompanied with "best wishes" as signature.
>
> Maybe it's an improper or strange way of greeting people in English?
> If so, I will change it into something else. I welcome any advice on this.
>
Saying "Best Wishes" after you've said something nice is fine, saying "Best
Wishes" after you've said something not-nice is not fine: it's sarcasm.
Steven Rowe
SRoweCanoe
Rich M and Superman
Message 213 -
2001-06-16 at 06:24:31
In a message dated 6/15/2001 10:39:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:
> It would appear that no-one commented on my ?
> concerning the late Rich Morrissey , and the Superman
> history he had been , years ago , working on .
>
I don't recall the question,
but as far as I know, Rich wasn't working on writing a history; per say...
he was however instrumental in helping id Superman artists and writers (and
of course, he knew Superman Trivia up the Yazoo)
Steven Rowe
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:
> It would appear that no-one commented on my ?
> concerning the late Rich Morrissey , and the Superman
> history he had been , years ago , working on .
>
I don't recall the question,
but as far as I know, Rich wasn't working on writing a history; per say...
he was however instrumental in helping id Superman artists and writers (and
of course, he knew Superman Trivia up the Yazoo)
Steven Rowe
Shelley Hanson/KlezmerAllThatJazz
WL Lilly's Calisota history
Message 214 -
2001-06-16 at 08:06:31
The idea of turning Northern California into another state isn't just
ancient history, either -- when I lived in California in the 1980's there
was much resentful talk then of splitting California between hedonistic,
water-greedy Southern California (Los Angeles and south) and tree-hugging
environmentally-conscious Northern California (San Francisco and north); the
central part of California was debated as to where its natural alliance
would be. (Please note that my descriptions of the two halves of California
are intended tongue-in-cheek -- I like both parts.) Realistically that could
never happen now, of course. But I do like the idea that in the Duck
universe some such thing happened back in the nineteenth century before
California joined the United States.
ancient history, either -- when I lived in California in the 1980's there
was much resentful talk then of splitting California between hedonistic,
water-greedy Southern California (Los Angeles and south) and tree-hugging
environmentally-conscious Northern California (San Francisco and north); the
central part of California was debated as to where its natural alliance
would be. (Please note that my descriptions of the two halves of California
are intended tongue-in-cheek -- I like both parts.) Realistically that could
never happen now, of course. But I do like the idea that in the Duck
universe some such thing happened back in the nineteenth century before
California joined the United States.
Jonathan Markoff
Made for trade
Message 215 -
2001-06-16 at 08:22:59
I've been out of the loop for a while--what's the current etiquette for
advertising friendly-like on this list? I'm trying to clean my closet of
various surplus Whitman, Gold Key, Gladstone, and Disney issues (as well as
some comics not Disney-character-related) and would like to do it by
swapping. Any interested parties out there? (Even Americans are welcome, as
availability of certain old comics varies from state to state.)
--Jonathan Markoff
Virginia, USA
advertising friendly-like on this list? I'm trying to clean my closet of
various surplus Whitman, Gold Key, Gladstone, and Disney issues (as well as
some comics not Disney-character-related) and would like to do it by
swapping. Any interested parties out there? (Even Americans are welcome, as
availability of certain old comics varies from state to state.)
--Jonathan Markoff
Virginia, USA
Anders Christian Sivebaek
569: reindeer/stags
Message 216 -
2001-06-16 at 13:56:50
Hi
My point was that it's stags on those clicheee paintings, not
reindeers.
And yes, I know Santa's reindeer, Basher, Rudolph and all those.
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
PS :(Hilse p? en kronhjort (Ikke et rensdyr)) :-))
My point was that it's stags on those clicheee paintings, not
reindeers.
And yes, I know Santa's reindeer, Basher, Rudolph and all those.
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
PS :(Hilse p? en kronhjort (Ikke et rensdyr)) :-))
Don Rosa
DCML digest, Vol 1 #573 - 12 msgs
Message 217 -
2001-06-16 at 14:39:03
> From: "Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>
> Do I really need to answer this? You must know better.
Sure I do. You must know I know better. I knew you knew that I know better.
Don't you know that I know that you know that I know better? Y'know?
> From: "Fernando Ventura" <fernandopventura at uol.com.br>
> Finally I read "The Three Caballeros Rides Again"! Very nice job, Don!
> Only two thing's is "strange" to me, since I'm so familiar with the =
> brazilian artists was doing with Jos=E9 and Panchito's character since =
> the 60's:=20
> The absence of Panchi'to's serap=E8
You seem to have hiccupped -- you mean his serape? If he was wearing one
all the time in the movie or comics (which I'd need to go check), I'm sure
I figured it would just be hard to draw in each pose and that I preferred
to
see all of his body in every shot.
I thought you were going to ask about the horse he has in all the comics. I
saw that steed but I can't bring myself to draw horses that are that
cartoony... I prefer to use semi-cartoony hosses like in Asterix. But I
still used the hoss' name from the comics.
> ...and the fact of Jos=E9 becaming sad for losting =
> his job! The "brazilian" Joe really hate the WORD work! :)
Now we come to my real attitude towards using the material from the comics:
see, we in America have never seen Jose Carioca or Panchito comic strips,
none to speak of. There were short running comics about them in American
newspapers back around the time the movie was out, to promote it. And there
were some unmemorable promotional appearances in the Dell comics (even
though one was by Walt Kelly, which I would not say was "inspired".... it
seemed a bit "uncomfortable"). But these newspaper comics and such were
long gone by the time I was even born, and they were never reprinted for me
to see later.
But friends sent me many examples of the Brazilian and Dutch Jose and
Panchito comics for reference before I did that story. These were useful
artistically, but I found that I did *not like* the interpretation of
Jose's personality that I saw in these comics. At least in the examples I
had, Jose was some sort of bum who, yes, hated being a "productive member
of society", swindled people out of free meals and seemed to spend all his
time in other con-man antics (judging by what I could tell not being able
to *read* the comics). As with drawing cartoon horses, I could not enjoy
making a hero out of this Jose in my own stories.... the same way I must
change $crooge from being greedy and nothing but greedy for money if I can
tolerate making a hero out of him. To me, greed and selfishness is the root
of all evil and the Republican party. So, I just figured that I would be
basing my Jose on the one in the movies and interpolate from that point,
and I interpolated in a different direction than did those newspaper comic
writers. I turned him into a mediocre itinerant night-club entertainer. I
was treating him and Panchito like the characters Hope and Crosby played
throughout their "Road" pictures. Yeah, if I spoke in the parlance of a
modern American movie producer, I'd refer to my "Three Caballeros Ride
Again" as "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" meets "the Road to Bali".
> Do I really need to answer this? You must know better.
Sure I do. You must know I know better. I knew you knew that I know better.
Don't you know that I know that you know that I know better? Y'know?
> From: "Fernando Ventura" <fernandopventura at uol.com.br>
> Finally I read "The Three Caballeros Rides Again"! Very nice job, Don!
> Only two thing's is "strange" to me, since I'm so familiar with the =
> brazilian artists was doing with Jos=E9 and Panchito's character since =
> the 60's:=20
> The absence of Panchi'to's serap=E8
You seem to have hiccupped -- you mean his serape? If he was wearing one
all the time in the movie or comics (which I'd need to go check), I'm sure
I figured it would just be hard to draw in each pose and that I preferred
to
see all of his body in every shot.
I thought you were going to ask about the horse he has in all the comics. I
saw that steed but I can't bring myself to draw horses that are that
cartoony... I prefer to use semi-cartoony hosses like in Asterix. But I
still used the hoss' name from the comics.
> ...and the fact of Jos=E9 becaming sad for losting =
> his job! The "brazilian" Joe really hate the WORD work! :)
Now we come to my real attitude towards using the material from the comics:
see, we in America have never seen Jose Carioca or Panchito comic strips,
none to speak of. There were short running comics about them in American
newspapers back around the time the movie was out, to promote it. And there
were some unmemorable promotional appearances in the Dell comics (even
though one was by Walt Kelly, which I would not say was "inspired".... it
seemed a bit "uncomfortable"). But these newspaper comics and such were
long gone by the time I was even born, and they were never reprinted for me
to see later.
But friends sent me many examples of the Brazilian and Dutch Jose and
Panchito comics for reference before I did that story. These were useful
artistically, but I found that I did *not like* the interpretation of
Jose's personality that I saw in these comics. At least in the examples I
had, Jose was some sort of bum who, yes, hated being a "productive member
of society", swindled people out of free meals and seemed to spend all his
time in other con-man antics (judging by what I could tell not being able
to *read* the comics). As with drawing cartoon horses, I could not enjoy
making a hero out of this Jose in my own stories.... the same way I must
change $crooge from being greedy and nothing but greedy for money if I can
tolerate making a hero out of him. To me, greed and selfishness is the root
of all evil and the Republican party. So, I just figured that I would be
basing my Jose on the one in the movies and interpolate from that point,
and I interpolated in a different direction than did those newspaper comic
writers. I turned him into a mediocre itinerant night-club entertainer. I
was treating him and Panchito like the characters Hope and Crosby played
throughout their "Road" pictures. Yeah, if I spoke in the parlance of a
modern American movie producer, I'd refer to my "Three Caballeros Ride
Again" as "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" meets "the Road to Bali".
Dan Shane
For Dan Shane
Message 218 -
2001-06-16 at 15:12:27
DANIEL VAN EIJMEREN WROTE:
> About my "best wishes" signature: it accompanies all of my DCML emails.
> I wish everyone the best, so I've never been concerned about which of my
> emails can or cannot be accompanied with "best wishes" as signature.
>
> Maybe it's an improper or strange way of greeting people in English?
> If so, I will change it into something else. I welcome any advice on this.
>
AND I REPLY:
I've already communicated with othe Europeans about this point after I
brought it up, and it seems I was the victim of cultural unawareness.
Daniel's tagline is apparently to be viewed similar to the "Sincerely yours"
that Americans often use to close their letters, no matter the content of
the body of the message. That doesn't mean I was wrong to say Daniel's
consistent use of "Best wishes" becomes meaningless. If I signed
"Sincerely" to all of my posts, it would be just as trite. But I shouldn't
have looked at Daniel's tagline as if it had deeper meaning.
THEN DANIEL CONTINUES:
> I very much appreciated receiving that scan and I still appreciate it.
> Not only because of the scan itself, but especially because I received
> it from you. We've had a disagreement or two in the past and so I was
> very thankful to see that those matters between us indeed could be
> dropped, and that we could still have a friendly communication.
>
> Therefore I already intended to give you some issues of the money bin
> blueprint story as soon as it is published here in The Netherlands.
> (I noticed that you are interested in receiving foreign copies of
> that story.) I hope you will accept these comics from me, and I also
> hope that we can continue communicating on a friendly basis.
>
AND I SAY:
That is an extremely gracious offer. I wish our communication could be
other than just through written words in a semi-anonymous fashion. I have a
feeling we would come to a better understanding of each other if we ever
actually met. I know I didn't help matters by dropping your name in one of
my less kind messages. I won't take all the blame, as I think there are
misunderstandings on both sides, but I must certainly carry my share. It
looks like we both have some growing to do, and I might actually be making
some progress.
Keep in touch, Daniel. Every person has something to share. I promise to
think ahead in the future to try to avoid further unintended harm.
Sincerely (and I only use it when I mean it),
--
Dan Shane
(danshane at bellsouth.net)
> About my "best wishes" signature: it accompanies all of my DCML emails.
> I wish everyone the best, so I've never been concerned about which of my
> emails can or cannot be accompanied with "best wishes" as signature.
>
> Maybe it's an improper or strange way of greeting people in English?
> If so, I will change it into something else. I welcome any advice on this.
>
AND I REPLY:
I've already communicated with othe Europeans about this point after I
brought it up, and it seems I was the victim of cultural unawareness.
Daniel's tagline is apparently to be viewed similar to the "Sincerely yours"
that Americans often use to close their letters, no matter the content of
the body of the message. That doesn't mean I was wrong to say Daniel's
consistent use of "Best wishes" becomes meaningless. If I signed
"Sincerely" to all of my posts, it would be just as trite. But I shouldn't
have looked at Daniel's tagline as if it had deeper meaning.
THEN DANIEL CONTINUES:
> I very much appreciated receiving that scan and I still appreciate it.
> Not only because of the scan itself, but especially because I received
> it from you. We've had a disagreement or two in the past and so I was
> very thankful to see that those matters between us indeed could be
> dropped, and that we could still have a friendly communication.
>
> Therefore I already intended to give you some issues of the money bin
> blueprint story as soon as it is published here in The Netherlands.
> (I noticed that you are interested in receiving foreign copies of
> that story.) I hope you will accept these comics from me, and I also
> hope that we can continue communicating on a friendly basis.
>
AND I SAY:
That is an extremely gracious offer. I wish our communication could be
other than just through written words in a semi-anonymous fashion. I have a
feeling we would come to a better understanding of each other if we ever
actually met. I know I didn't help matters by dropping your name in one of
my less kind messages. I won't take all the blame, as I think there are
misunderstandings on both sides, but I must certainly carry my share. It
looks like we both have some growing to do, and I might actually be making
some progress.
Keep in touch, Daniel. Every person has something to share. I promise to
think ahead in the future to try to avoid further unintended harm.
Sincerely (and I only use it when I mean it),
--
Dan Shane
(danshane at bellsouth.net)
Fernando Ventura
Panchito's SeƱor Martinez!
Message 219 -
2001-06-16 at 16:10:05
Don Rosa, about my question on Panchito's serap?'s absence on "The Three
Caballeros Rides Again":
>You seem to have hiccupped -- you mean his serape? If he was wearing one
>all the time in the movie or comics (which I'd need to go check), I'm sure
>I figured it would just be hard to draw in each pose and that I preferred
>to
>see all of his body in every shot.
>I thought you were going to ask about the horse he has in all the comics. I
>saw that steed but I can't bring myself to draw horses that are that
>cartoony... I prefer to use semi-cartoony hosses like in Asterix. But I
>still used the hoss' name from the comics.
I was not so clear on my question! Here in Brazil they've never used
Panchito's horse, Se?or Martinez as his way of transport! He use's his
serap? (carpet), as the three caballeros used it on the movie. There aren't
so many Panchito's B-coded stories (15, more or lees, on the Inducks data),
but in always he is usign his serap?...Yes, I'm familiar with the Panchito's
Dutch stories...but I was not speaking about then when I ask! Probably Se?or
Martinez is a Dutch creation, right Dutch members?
I doen't like the design of Se?or Martinez on the Dutch one's...as a matter
of fact I really preffer the way you(Don) drew him on your story.
The brazilian staff tried some years ago to develop single stories for each
characters(as Pablo and the little Gauchito) on The Three Caballeros movie,
but it wasn't worked very much...!
I remenber a B-Coded story that has Donald and Panchito visiting Jos?, and
he seels Panchito's serap? to buy food!!! But he doesn't know they have the
intention of go to the World Cup usign the serap?...!
I suppose you can understand me, now? :)
Fernando!
Caballeros Rides Again":
>You seem to have hiccupped -- you mean his serape? If he was wearing one
>all the time in the movie or comics (which I'd need to go check), I'm sure
>I figured it would just be hard to draw in each pose and that I preferred
>to
>see all of his body in every shot.
>I thought you were going to ask about the horse he has in all the comics. I
>saw that steed but I can't bring myself to draw horses that are that
>cartoony... I prefer to use semi-cartoony hosses like in Asterix. But I
>still used the hoss' name from the comics.
I was not so clear on my question! Here in Brazil they've never used
Panchito's horse, Se?or Martinez as his way of transport! He use's his
serap? (carpet), as the three caballeros used it on the movie. There aren't
so many Panchito's B-coded stories (15, more or lees, on the Inducks data),
but in always he is usign his serap?...Yes, I'm familiar with the Panchito's
Dutch stories...but I was not speaking about then when I ask! Probably Se?or
Martinez is a Dutch creation, right Dutch members?
I doen't like the design of Se?or Martinez on the Dutch one's...as a matter
of fact I really preffer the way you(Don) drew him on your story.
The brazilian staff tried some years ago to develop single stories for each
characters(as Pablo and the little Gauchito) on The Three Caballeros movie,
but it wasn't worked very much...!
I remenber a B-Coded story that has Donald and Panchito visiting Jos?, and
he seels Panchito's serap? to buy food!!! But he doesn't know they have the
intention of go to the World Cup usign the serap?...!
I suppose you can understand me, now? :)
Fernando!
Anders Christian Sivebaek
572: age and culture
Message 220 -
2001-06-16 at 16:34:08
Olaf
Hi
I never imagined myself what age Della would have when she gave birth
to the triplets, but anyway, it's the charecters, as they are in the
comics, that I like.
Olaf, you probably didn't mean to say so, but from what I read it seams
you think Kentuckians (?)
are very wild and living as people did in Europe in the middle age,
maybe. I don't know enough to
know if it is so, but I surely don't expect it to be so. Let's not have
wievpoints such as I first though
Mike from Finland had - other people may have them - thinking some kind
of people are better or
worse than others.
In Denmark not many centuries ago it wasn't unusual to see an old rich
man marying a 13-year old
girl, because the wife had died, and he had to see to it that the
"clan" would live on.
But allthough some hillbillies in movies and possibly reality may have
lived so, I wouldn't believe
someone there doing so at the moment. I might be coming down to a word
called civilization, which is
of course not good in all cases but in some. The movement from one
culture to another is both good and bad.
I changed my own wievpoint quite a bit, seeing that of course there are
good and bad people among
every culture.
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Hi
I never imagined myself what age Della would have when she gave birth
to the triplets, but anyway, it's the charecters, as they are in the
comics, that I like.
Olaf, you probably didn't mean to say so, but from what I read it seams
you think Kentuckians (?)
are very wild and living as people did in Europe in the middle age,
maybe. I don't know enough to
know if it is so, but I surely don't expect it to be so. Let's not have
wievpoints such as I first though
Mike from Finland had - other people may have them - thinking some kind
of people are better or
worse than others.
In Denmark not many centuries ago it wasn't unusual to see an old rich
man marying a 13-year old
girl, because the wife had died, and he had to see to it that the
"clan" would live on.
But allthough some hillbillies in movies and possibly reality may have
lived so, I wouldn't believe
someone there doing so at the moment. I might be coming down to a word
called civilization, which is
of course not good in all cases but in some. The movement from one
culture to another is both good and bad.
I changed my own wievpoint quite a bit, seeing that of course there are
good and bad people among
every culture.
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Michael Naiman
Square food
Message 221 -
2001-06-16 at 16:54:59
Front page of the business section of the San Diego Union Tribune (June
16) is
an article and picture on square watermelons that the Japanese have
developed.
Hmmmmmm..can square eggs be too far behind?
Michael
16) is
an article and picture on square watermelons that the Japanese have
developed.
Hmmmmmm..can square eggs be too far behind?
Michael
Anders Christian Sivebaek
571: oils as covers 573:stories
Message 222 -
2001-06-16 at 17:04:04
Dan said:
>I like Barks' oil work personally, and in my imaginary, perfect world,
I
>envision them as the "covers" to the comics I love.
Not insinuating that Denmark would be anything near this perfect world,
I do want to tell that in this last decade of weeklies, the danish DD
weekly used Barks paintings as covers for certain stories, such as
Vacation Time , terror of the river and Trick or Treat. They also
published posters with the paintings - the ones I have are hanging in
this and my other room.
Reading the digest 573 I got to think of this. I have 4 repro's inhere.
One is Sailing the Spanish Main - excuse me my perhaps utterly
strange wievpoint but so far I always thought like this when I looked
at that poster with the painting: Is there no story where they
experience that?
It would be so good! I think now, having read many Barks-stories, if
not all
except for some JW-manusripts, that it's a painting of a cover for a
WDC-issue.
As we see in the case with the painting Barks wanted to do of a horse
in the bin,
this painting could have maybe made a story too. I make a challenge to
all writers or
drawers here to make a story out of that painting - On the other hand,
maybe I should
consider the painting a collection of many treasure hunts the ducks
had, maybe just those
on sea. I see the happy expression(s?) in all the eyes of the ducks on
the painting
and it makes me happy. The octopus though, especially when I was
smaller, often made
me scared. The poster-magazine I once bought which held that painting,
is from 1989 or earlier.
May have been my first meeting with the oils, as I wasn't too
interested in books with Ducks
at the time
Of the other 3 inhere 2 paintings are made from cover-gags, one is
inspired from Back to Klondike.
BTW, as we talk of paintings here on the disney comics mailing list,
maybe we could also talk of
Barks-cartoons? I know I'm contributing to this coming of-topic myself
-
Even though the cartooncareer wasn't 1/4 of a century, it's still one
thing that is seen on danish TV from time to time.
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
>I like Barks' oil work personally, and in my imaginary, perfect world,
I
>envision them as the "covers" to the comics I love.
Not insinuating that Denmark would be anything near this perfect world,
I do want to tell that in this last decade of weeklies, the danish DD
weekly used Barks paintings as covers for certain stories, such as
Vacation Time , terror of the river and Trick or Treat. They also
published posters with the paintings - the ones I have are hanging in
this and my other room.
Reading the digest 573 I got to think of this. I have 4 repro's inhere.
One is Sailing the Spanish Main - excuse me my perhaps utterly
strange wievpoint but so far I always thought like this when I looked
at that poster with the painting: Is there no story where they
experience that?
It would be so good! I think now, having read many Barks-stories, if
not all
except for some JW-manusripts, that it's a painting of a cover for a
WDC-issue.
As we see in the case with the painting Barks wanted to do of a horse
in the bin,
this painting could have maybe made a story too. I make a challenge to
all writers or
drawers here to make a story out of that painting - On the other hand,
maybe I should
consider the painting a collection of many treasure hunts the ducks
had, maybe just those
on sea. I see the happy expression(s?) in all the eyes of the ducks on
the painting
and it makes me happy. The octopus though, especially when I was
smaller, often made
me scared. The poster-magazine I once bought which held that painting,
is from 1989 or earlier.
May have been my first meeting with the oils, as I wasn't too
interested in books with Ducks
at the time
Of the other 3 inhere 2 paintings are made from cover-gags, one is
inspired from Back to Klondike.
BTW, as we talk of paintings here on the disney comics mailing list,
maybe we could also talk of
Barks-cartoons? I know I'm contributing to this coming of-topic myself
-
Even though the cartooncareer wasn't 1/4 of a century, it's still one
thing that is seen on danish TV from time to time.
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Francesco Spreafico
Zio Paperone #141
Message 223 -
2001-06-16 at 17:49:56
A quite strange issue of "Zio Paperone" just hit the stands here in Italy,
let's take a closer look.
It features:
- W OS 71-02 48 I tre caballeros (The Three Caballeros) by Walt Kelly
- D 90227 Zio Paperone e il tesoro sotto vetro (Treasure Under Glass) by
Don Rosa
- D 97506 Paperino pescatore bagnato, pescatore fortunato (a Fish Tale) by
William Van Horn
- W US 16-03 Archimede Pitagorico e il previsore del futuro bt Carl Barks
There is also a very interesting article about Walt Kelly written by Alberto
Becattini, giving information about his disney and non-disney works (I, for
one, had never realized that the "disney" Walt Kelly was the same as the
"Poho" Walt Kelly...). It also reprints some covers and illustrations by
Kelly.
I had never read _The Three Caballeros_, and I actually find it a really
strange story, good, but definitely not "normal", especially for those two
"tales", of the flying donkey and the pinata, "duckless". But I liked it
anyway.
The we have _Treasure Under Glass_... wow! I wonder what took them so long
to publish it here. I already had a Greek edition, but of course been able
to read the words too improved it a lot (I think some panels are really
breathtaking... the ones with the dome)
Little to say about the rest, I don't like Van Horn's art at all (while the
story was nice), and Barks's always Barks, of course.
Cover and backcover by Marco Rota.
--
Sprea
http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo
let's take a closer look.
It features:
- W OS 71-02 48 I tre caballeros (The Three Caballeros) by Walt Kelly
- D 90227 Zio Paperone e il tesoro sotto vetro (Treasure Under Glass) by
Don Rosa
- D 97506 Paperino pescatore bagnato, pescatore fortunato (a Fish Tale) by
William Van Horn
- W US 16-03 Archimede Pitagorico e il previsore del futuro bt Carl Barks
There is also a very interesting article about Walt Kelly written by Alberto
Becattini, giving information about his disney and non-disney works (I, for
one, had never realized that the "disney" Walt Kelly was the same as the
"Poho" Walt Kelly...). It also reprints some covers and illustrations by
Kelly.
I had never read _The Three Caballeros_, and I actually find it a really
strange story, good, but definitely not "normal", especially for those two
"tales", of the flying donkey and the pinata, "duckless". But I liked it
anyway.
The we have _Treasure Under Glass_... wow! I wonder what took them so long
to publish it here. I already had a Greek edition, but of course been able
to read the words too improved it a lot (I think some panels are really
breathtaking... the ones with the dome)
Little to say about the rest, I don't like Van Horn's art at all (while the
story was nice), and Barks's always Barks, of course.
Cover and backcover by Marco Rota.
--
Sprea
http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo
ODD BJARNE POULSEN
Made for trade
Message 224 -
2001-06-16 at 21:10:04
Well, if you have some issues containing Barks or Rosa, I could probably find some mates, who'd like to swap with some...er, Danish stuff... (Those mates would definately include me!!!) (Hope I'll be able to convonce my English teacher, that reading Disney stuff will learn us MORE than Shakespeare...)
-And your advertising was very friendly...
Ninie
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Markoff <markoff2 at cais.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: 16. juni 2001 07:22
Subject: Made for trade
> I've been out of the loop for a while--what's the current etiquette for
> advertising friendly-like on this list? I'm trying to clean my closet of
> various surplus Whitman, Gold Key, Gladstone, and Disney issues (as well as
> some comics not Disney-character-related) and would like to do it by
> swapping. Any interested parties out there? (Even Americans are welcome, as
> availability of certain old comics varies from state to state.)
>
> --Jonathan Markoff
> Virginia, USA
>
>
>
-And your advertising was very friendly...
Ninie
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Markoff <markoff2 at cais.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: 16. juni 2001 07:22
Subject: Made for trade
> I've been out of the loop for a while--what's the current etiquette for
> advertising friendly-like on this list? I'm trying to clean my closet of
> various surplus Whitman, Gold Key, Gladstone, and Disney issues (as well as
> some comics not Disney-character-related) and would like to do it by
> swapping. Any interested parties out there? (Even Americans are welcome, as
> availability of certain old comics varies from state to state.)
>
> --Jonathan Markoff
> Virginia, USA
>
>
>
ODD BJARNE POULSEN
Europe (OT)
Message 225 -
2001-06-16 at 21:12:13
I DO jope that was irony. In case it wasn't: forget I ever answered you.
/Ninie
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Row <andytlrow at yahoo.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: 16. juni 2001 05:13
Subject: Europe (OT)
> Take your Kyoto treaty, take your Nato alliance, and
> shove them up your ass. America never asked to be the
> world's fucking cop, but yet who are ya gonna call
> when there's yet another military situation you
> fucking pansies can't handle.
>
> Uncle Sam.
>
> Andy Row
> http://www.geocities.com/tobydog9/
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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/Ninie
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Row <andytlrow at yahoo.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: 16. juni 2001 05:13
Subject: Europe (OT)
> Take your Kyoto treaty, take your Nato alliance, and
> shove them up your ass. America never asked to be the
> world's fucking cop, but yet who are ya gonna call
> when there's yet another military situation you
> fucking pansies can't handle.
>
> Uncle Sam.
>
> Andy Row
> http://www.geocities.com/tobydog9/
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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