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Merlin Haas
>Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
>
>I've looked up "Volcano Valley" (OS 147, panel 5.5), which describes
>Donald's 313 car as having "1920 Mixwell engine! '22 Dudge body!
>'23 Paclac axles! Wheels off a lawn mower!"
>
>In my previous email I asked about the Mixwell engine, but
>I would also like to know what "Dudge" and "Paclac" refer to.

Those are all puns on American automobile names. Dudge = Dodge.
Paclac = Pontiac (or maybe Cadillac?). Mixwell = Maxwell. (The last
probably coming from the very popular Jack Benny radio program.
Benny's stingy character could have provided a basis for Scrooge. Did
anyone ever think to ask Barks about this?)

best -- Merlin Haas
Paolo Castagno
Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:

> PS. One practical purpose of this imaginary project could
> be a Duck Adventures video-game in which the player:
>
> - has to avoid danger when leading the Micro-Ducks through
> Duckburg (US 65)
> - has to hide for Daisy's club (WDC 101 nightmare story)
> - has to avoid spies when bringing a serum to Codfish Cove
(WDC 114)
> - has to reach the surpressed desire party in an armor suit
> (WDC 198)
> - etc. etc. etc.

It reminds me of a text-only adventure I wrote maaany years ago
for my Commodore 64, where U$ has to reach his money bin avoiding
many dangers, including Brigitta, and has to solve some puzzles
to beat Rockerduck!

God only knows where it ended up!!!

- Paolo

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Sue And Gary Leach
Shelley:
>>> I'm curious: are Duck fans also sci-fi fans? Or is it just a few of us?

Kriton:
>>Well, there's at least two of us. The question has popped up before,
>>so I guess there are even more.

Olivier:
Number three here! I don't know Heinlein.
But I do know & greatly appreciate Asimov, Crichton, H.G. Wells.
And Don Rosa ("The Universal Solvent", ...)

Make it four. Add Carl Barks (a more fanciful Jules Verne, IMHO), Arthur C.
Clarke, Ray Bradbury, Norman Spinrad, Jack C. Chalker, Robert (Bob)
Silverberg, C. J. Cherryh, Pohl Anderson, Douglas Adams, Murray Leinster,
Lester Del Rey, Theodore Sturgeon, Ben Bova, Jack Vance, Frederick Pohl,
Larry Niven, Greg Bear, Harry Harrison (one-time EC writer/artist), C. S.
Lewis, Gordon Dickson, A. Bertram Chandler, Robert Asprin, Alan Dean Foster,
Anne McCaffrey, Joe Haldeman, and the immortal Ron Goulart?just to name a
few.

Okay, not really on topic, but there it is.

Gary Leach
Jakob Blaavand
Number 5!!!

I'm with all of you, I also love sci-fi and especially Douglas Adams
(his "Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy"), just a pity he just died! But
that's the way of life. But as you name, Don Rosa, he is also a really
god sci-fi writer, "The Universal Solvent", but in a way a lot of Disney
comics are sci-fi stories, like "The Incredible Shrinking Tigdwat", and
a lot of other stories, and that's maybe because I love sci-fi. I have
read so many Disney comics.

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Sendt: 18. juni 2001 19:23
Til: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Emne: Re: Sci-fi/Duck fans

>Shelley: >>> I'm curious: are Duck fans also sci-fi fans? Or is it just
a
>few of us?
>
>Kriton: >>Well, there's at least two of us. The question has popped up
>before, >>so I guess there are even more.
>
>
>Number three here! I don't know Heinlein. But I do know & greatly
>appreciate Asimov, Crichton, H.G. Wells. And Don Rosa ("The Universal
>Solvent", ...)

And number four! Star Wars/Trek are the best. Douglas Adams also writes
very
good stories. I enjoy reading fantasy too. Are there any fantasy-fans
here?

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Don Rosa
From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>
>>>>I come to think of the school drawings Don Rosa made for Finland in
1999. The 1-page drawing of those shows HDL wishing they were at
school, and as they're JW's hunting for knowledge I would understand
that. Still, it's been said here that it's somewhat a gag drawing? How?

You see the caption box? My original caption was some funny expression that
identified the scene of kids on summer holiday wishing they were in school
as being an absurdity, a fantasy. I understand this caption was not
used in Finland and the other places my picture was printed. What did the
editors make it say, I wonder? That kids *should* be thinking like this?

From: Merlin Haas <mvhaas at elpaso.net>
>>>>>Those are all puns on American automobile names. Dudge = Dodge.
Paclac = Pontiac (or maybe Cadillac?).

Not Pontiac. "Paclac" is a gag-combo of PACkard and CadilLAC, the two
competitors for the high-end car buyers back in the old days.
Shelley Hanson/KlezmerAllThatJazz
I forgot that Heinlein's Time Enough for Love was written after Stranger in
a Strange Land. I agree that it's got some great stuff in it -- I view it as
kind of a collection of short stories pulled together under a thin veil of
underlying plot -- sort of Heinlein's version of Scheherazade's tales.
Thanks for reminding me.
Fernando Ventura
Here in Brazil, on the Carioca Universe, Z? Carioca has two nephews(off
course...), and sometimes the artists do stories on then on the school...! I
did one myself ( "Um Caso Cabeludo" B 000016 ) , writed with my friend
Markus Corr?a, and on this story we create a "good" gyn teacher to then,
that makes the Green Bat a little crazy about... ;)

Many of this stories develop the probems every children as Zico and Zeca has
on school...and the way Z? Carioca is involved in the education of then.
Usually the teachers dislike Joe, since he's not a "perfect example" to his
nephews...

Fernando!
Rob Klein
Hi everyone! Wow! We've been getting some real "humdingers" for comments
lately! I prefer "Get me off this List!!! - Hurry!!!", "Can you guys be
for real?" or "What are you guys talking about???" to the guy blaming us
for making the U.S.A. the World's Policeman!!! See what happens when we
get too esoteric?

Regarding Merlin Haas' question regarding Barks listening to Jack Benny.
He told me a few times that he DID hear "The Jack benny Program" - and he
liked the stingy gags. But, all those gags were re-worked gags and jokes
that had been in Vaudeville acts, and most of them had older antecedents in
carnival comedian's spiels and traveling actors' shows and the like. Barks
had heard most of those jokes in person, or seen them in print in early
newspaper comic strips or in magazines, such as "Judge" and the like.

Regarding People who are serious Disney Comic fans and also Science Fiction
fans: I believe there is a large correlation in those 2 pursuits. I am a
great fan of Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Isaac Asimov, Ray Bradbury and a few
others. Most of the serious Donaldists and Barks fans I know (from many
countries in Northern and Western Europe and North America) are also sci-fi
fans. I would guess many of the Rosa fans are as well. I like serious
sci-fi tales, but would also welcome reading those with humour blended in
well.

When I attended university in Los Angeles (1965 - 1972), I used to visit
Malcom Willits and Leonard Brown, at their shop The Collectors' Book Store
every Saturday. I went there to buy U.S. Disney comics, but mainly to meet
and listen to the many collectors and authors who wandered in. Malcom and
Leonard were big fans of Barks, Gottfredsson, old-time comic strips, old
films and Science Fiction. Many of their friends liked all of those as
well. Malcom introduced me to Carl Barks (not at the store) - but I also
got to meet Ray Bradbury and many lesser-known writers at there shop. They
used to talk about eachothers' stories and any good stories they'd read.
Ray even talked about stories he was working on at the time. Most of the
sci-fi writers I met there were also big comic fans and classic film fans
(not necessarily Disney - but they all appreciated Barks and Gottfredsson).
Should we have a poll on this?

Rob Klein
HoyMurphy
If Duckburg was founded by Cornelius Coot, why is it called Duckburg instead
of Cootsville or something like that?

--your pal, Hoy
YMH
I purchased and completed the Donald Duck game that I mentioned on
this board a while back, and it was pretty much as I expected it to be:
standard platformer fare, utterly lacking in depth as far as story and
characterization go. Actually, the story and characterization are an
*embarassment*, and I wish they'd been left out. But it had wonderful art and
animation, and the gameplay itself was a lot of fun. At $20 for the PC
version, you can't go wrong...
On thing that surprised and pleased me, though was the "Dedicated to
Carl Barks" screen at the end. The game did use several Barksian characters,
including at least one, Gladstone, who probably wouldn't not be well known by
the mainstream... Scrooge was nowhere to be found... I wonder why.
I really hope I get my chance to go in there and make the perfect Duck
game, someday.
YMH
> I'd even go as far
> as claiming that "Time Enough For Love" is one of the best SF books ever.
> I guess there's no accounting for taste.

Hmm... Diane Duane (who is, in my opinion, the best writer ever) one wrote an
episode of DUCKTALES, the details of which I do not remember, called "Dime
Enough For Luck". Any connection there? :-)
YMH
What I really don't like about Van Horn's art is what happens to his Ducks'
eyes when they're *closed* -- the edges go away and we're left with just two
curves. Reminds me too much of anime. :-)
Kriton Kyrimis
OLIVIER:

> Number three here! I don't know Heinlein.
> But I do know & greatly appreciate Asimov, Crichton, H.G. Wells.

If you are an SF fan and don't know of Heinlein (a contradiction?) drop
whatever it is you're doing and read "Stranger In A Strange Land" and
"Time Enough For Love". The first is considered by most one of the best
SF story ever, and I have the same opinion about the latter. Chances
are you'll find at least one of the two a masterpiece.

EERO-PEKKA:

> Douglas Adams also writes very good stories.

Wrote. :(

> I enjoy reading fantasy too. Are there any fantasy-fans here?

Well, there's at least one more...

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Olaf Solstrand
>From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>

>There's not often shown scenes or stories from Duckburg school in the
>weekly.

Isn't there? I agree that there is more stories about hilarious adventures
than stories about Huey, Dewey and Louie in school. But my opinion is that
quite a lot of stories come from the school, especially around school start.
I remember lots of them; the mobber you mentioned, the story where Donald
tries to get HD&L's friend from (i believe it is)Kari Korhonen's stories to
start school... and notice that every August you can reed at least one story
about going back to school in Donald Duck & Co / Anders And and other
comics.

>I see something self-condradicting in the fact that the kids are often
>shown as not wanting to go to school, and then, at the same time, they're
>Junior Woodchucks, learning all kinds of things through that.

I think this is handling with two different stages of HD&L. The stories
where they don't want to go to school probably takes place a while before
they entered the Junior Woodchucks. In the Don Rosa story
"W.H.A.T.A.L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N." or whatever that name was, we get a
glimze of HD&L the day before they enter the Junior Woodchucks. I think you
will agree that these little boys are the same boys that Carl Barks and
hundreds of other creators would let run away from school. Right? After they
entered the JW, they probably realized that it wasn't too bad to learn
something after all.

I have always thought of it as something absurd that Donald Duck & Co, the
most popular cartoon in Norway, actually shows the school to be something
terrible and boring. This has never been concidered to be a problem, but I
believe that many children have HD&L as their idols. I often get the feeling
that when HD&L play hooky, they say to their readers that it's OK. I've
often in the weekly read articles like "20 good excuses to start school
three weeks later". I hope that this will take an end, and that school can
be something positive. But, that is MY opinion.

>and the story is about several accidents that the multi artist Limonardo da
>Vimsi causes (The name would read Lemonado da Clumsy or such in American,
>if the story is published in a Gladstone comic or such)

Argh. Don't you just hate it when they make up these names? Why couldn't
they write a story where they meet Leonardo da Vinci instead? Almost as
pathetic as that German Don Rosa-translation including Schumacher. (I think
it was the Cutty Sark cowboy)

-olaf- ( http://home.no.net/treaa/ )
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Olaf Solstrand
From: HoyMurphy at aol.com

>If Duckburg was founded by Cornelius Coot, why is it called Duckburg
>instead of Cootsville or something like that?

If I'm not wrong, Cornelius founded the city on the location of Fort
Duckburg (Duckburgian history is not my strongest subject, but...) in
Drakeborough. Therefor it must have seemed quite obvious to pick the name
"Duckburg".

-olaf- ( http://home.no.net/treaa/ )
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