Keskustelujen arkisto

I'd like to publically thank those clever editors and colorers who saved
my day with this week's Aku Ankka publication of a Little Hiawatha story
(D99173).

As you know, most Little Hiawatha stories are about Indians or some other
such "colored" people. Yuck! What's next? Negro heroes in Donald Duck
stories? Mickey Mouse turns out to be a Jew? I mean, how offensive can you
get?

I was all ready to get angry at this comic story that I believed to be so
fundamentally against everything that's right and proper. Then when I
actually started to read the story, I noticed that they'd made some
changes.

Yes, they were still kind of like Indians, with their feathered
head-pieces and amusingly big noses. Some of them were even colored
slightly tanned. I thought this was a bit extreme, but then I said to
myself: "Anything for artistic liberty." And I kept on reading.

I was right to do so. It turned out not to be such an Indian story, after
all. It was kind of like a Smurf story with the Smurfs changed to
almost-Indians. Still, I wouldn't like to see any non-whites having
adventures in my comic books. I have to look at all sorts of foreigners
all day in the city, so at least my Aku Ankka should provide me with
something inoffensive and anglo-american.

Although I noticed it first, I left the best improvement last: Hiawatha
and his family are actually white! They wear those freaky clothes and have
long hippie-curls, but underneath all that, they're white. Much whiter
than those Indians they're hanging with. They're the same color as Police
Chief O'Hara in another story in the same book. Irish I can live with.

Even Hiawatha's father, the chief, is white. Now, I don't mind native
aboriginal savages as long as there's someone proper to keep them from
their heathen ways.

That's why I'd like to thank the person who made this choice. You taught
me (and millions of kids throughout Europe!) a valuable lesson. No matter
where your heritage comes from, you can be just as white as normal people.

Thank you!

Mike Pohjola
mikep at iki.fi +358-50-5238399 http://www.iki.fi/mikep

> 3. How to get the Don Rosa poster in Sarjainfo fanzine (Ivo van
>Wieringen)

Does anyone knows how to get this
>particular Sarjainfo issue (No. 4/00) (i can not find a Sarjainfo internet
>site),

Ask this about Sarjainfos editor in chief, Ville Hänninen:
ville.hanninen at helsinki.fi

Sarjainfo is:
http://www.kupla.net/engl/engl.html
http://www.kupla.net/engl/eseur/einfo.html
(in english)
and
http://www.kupla.net/seur/info/info.html
(only in Finnish)

Timo Ronkainen

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Ivo wrote:
>containing interesting material, especially the links to the unpublished
>stories and artwork of Don Rosa. On his site there is a section with
>published posters and of one I was very excited:
>http://www.angelfire.com/comics/donrosa/images/ec_kuvat.jpg
>because this is really, really great. Does anyone knows how to get this
>particular Sarjainfo issue (No. 4/00) (i can not find a Sarjainfo internet
>site), or better: does anyone know how to get this in the form of a poster
>or a high-definition image? Or does anyone knows or this is published in
>other magazines, perhaps Komix or Piscou?

Their e-mail address is sarjaks at kaapeli.fi or the editor's:
ville.hanninen at helsinki.fi. But I don't know, if they deliver
outside Finland.

Arttu Salminen
http://www.angelfire.com/comics/donrosa/

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From: "S?ren Krarup Olesen" <raptus at stofanet.dk>

> I am sorry that you see it this way. Those "new" Italian artists (not
> only Intini) but also for example Mastantuono, Celoni and Lavoradori
> have added something unique to Disney comics IMO.

Yes, something unique, something terribly unique... something terrible indeed
:-))

--
Sprea

Hi

Happy birthday to Donald on june 9th. I hope this will be in the digest
tomorrow at noon.
InDenmark the year for elderly people to retire has been 67 for a long
time, and Donald will be that this time, so he should retire, shouldn't
he? Nah, he still looks like not a year over 30, so he's okay.
People born after 1939 will retire when they're 65, I heard.

I made a fun little drawing for my neighbour who is 2 years older than
Donald and has his birthday the same day. I make Donald wave at him,
while holding a stick in the other hand, and look at him with eyes that
look a bit tired from age.
Now, don't think I'm becoming an artist or such. I just like to make
drawings for people I care for :-)

A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk

Hi
Kriton, I checked the comic you mention, and that artist is either the,
or one of them, who draws in a what i would call Picasso-like style.
That being almost an insult towards Picasso. I agree, that it's not
like Italian disney at all. IMO it looks horrible...

HARRY
S?ren was correctly talking about the BB vs. MB story, as you presume.
and you're right there are many references in the story. There's
actually
a h... of a lot of references to barks-stories, I made a list filling a
whole
sheet of my Donald-comic-sized paper.
Of course Don's invention (is that correct?), the trophy-room makes
there be
many references to old Barks treasure hunt stories.
And of course the blueprints are one big reference to Barks.

Harry, if you would like a copy, I have extra doubles that aren't
reserved for anyone
(at least not, now that I heard Don received the issue.). But of course
it'll
be in danish. You're very welcome to get one of them! :-)
Yes, You'll have to guard yourself with patience if you want to see it
in the DD Extra.

well, Harry, duckhunt has a maillist and a forum too, so you have to
join there too ;-)
No, you don't, only if you like. Well, I presume the reason is that
it's fun to have a forum
of ones own, and maybe some of the founders haven't heard of the dcml.
tell them
about it, and about which persons are here, then they might pop up.
On the duckhunt list we at some point talked about maling something to
Don Rosa,
but a wise finnish member knew how much mail this cartoonist gets every
day already, so
he adviced the persons to join this list. Where Don reads and answers
questions to him,
so that many other readers will also see it.

S?ren:
>The core of the story is an "independant" black comedy.
Just a teaser: Did you not notice the trophy room? The barks-references
are nice and not
at all heavy or something, but I don't find that they are ever. But you
know me, don't you? :-)

DAVID ("Lurker")
You should go to clubs.yahoo and search for the Barks and Rosa page. I
joined very easily myself
Yes, I pitty you guys very much, and I can't do any other than to offer
you too to get a danish copy
of the story, which you wouldn't be able to read, unless you do read
danish. And I would have to
find that copy at a second hand, because I have to keep an issue for
myself, one for Arie and for a
swedish friend, and one is reserved to Harry, if he wants it.

S?ren
Reindeers? It's not reindeers, it's those with the big antlers, red
deers (the male is a stag). Sorry that I laughed.
The clichee about the stag rutting at the forest lake is very known in
Denmark. of course
my grandparents had it too, and sorry I find it nice.
remember: reindeers are in front of santa's sled, stags are at the
forest lake (big clichees here)
Of course I follow you S?ren, we shouldn't shut of for new artists like
those Picassos you mention.
They're just not my cup of tea. If you hint to Jippes or others I of
course know their style and
recognized a panel from the story this week (HDL smoking cigars) from
one or another fanzine.

When I was at the small art exhibition in my town some long time ago, I
btw looked into a very green blue
painting and told myself that I felt the atmosphere of the
Kalevala-story by Don

A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk

Francesco:
>>Er... this mail's s'posed to be somewhat... sarcastic... I guess... is it not?

Yes, I suppose so too. That's how I read it.