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Olaf Solstrand
Just a question; how old is Blackheart Beagle in the series?

According to "Life of Scrooge" by Don Rosa, this crook met Scrooge on the
Mississippi near Loisville, Kentucky :) in 1880. At this time, he had three
grown-up sons, so he must have been at least somewhere around 40. If that is
correct, and he is born in 1840, and the stories find place in the 1950s,
this vigorous man is over 110 years old!!! Is there a logic explanation on
something like that?

In the "Scrooge 50 years in Duckburg" story, he seems to be very active. He
even flies one of Gyro's flying bikes. Yikes. And that's supposed to be
1952, where he is over 110 years old. Please help me out on this.

-olaf- ( http://home.no.net/treaa/ )
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Trygve Vatle
Hi,

Need soome help in identifying a story with Gilbert (Goofy's nephew).
Just got a question for one of the math-teachers at the college where I am
working. He is looking for a story with Gilbert (Ferdinand) and Goofy where
Gilbert says (this non-sensical sentence in Norwegian):

Enhetskula er kompakt p? den svarte stjerne typologien.

This makes no sense, it should have been:

Enhetskula er kompakt p? den svake stjerne topologien

In English this should be something like (I hope ;-)):

The sphere/ball (?) is compact on the weak (?) star topology

The story was probably printed in Norway the last half of the 1960s,
probably around 1967.

If this rings a bell, please let me know.

Thanks!

Trygve

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Olaf Solstrand
This might be a little off-topic, it's about the mailing list.

First, two tips for YOU;
-1- Sometimes personal answers has been posted on the list. If I ask of
something, you give me the answer. Fair enough. But I don't see the point of
sending it BOTH to my personal mailadress (harryklein at hotmail.com) AND to
the mailing list (dcml at stp.ling.uu.se). When you send a mail to the mailing
list, I automatically get it, and therefor there is no reason to also send
the mail to my private adress.

-2- When you mention stories; please write who wrote it. I can take most
CB/DR-stories, but according other stories, it's really hard to understand
which story this is. This is even worse if you not even write the TITLE, but
only the number of the WDC where it was printed. Yikes!

So, I need a tip;
This "digests" sounds interesting. But I don't figure out how to use it. My
very first day on the mailing list I used these digests, but what I recieved
was 30kB big mails containing nothing but a line of numbers. Heeeelp...
Therefor, I get the mails one and one, which results that if I'm on vacation
one week,I suddenly have two or three hundred new mails in my inbox. I
really want to use digests - I just don't understand how.

-olaf- ( http://home.no.net/treaa/ )
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Fluks, H.W.
I just found (by coincidence) a very funny 2-page Donald gag on the web:
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Fumetti/Rari/Inediti/RobKlein03.html
--Harry.
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
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Kjell Crone
Anders Christian Sivebaek:

>Is that the word, sodapop?
This is interesting,
according to my dictionary, there is no such word! Strange.
But soda, isn't that carbonated plain water ?
And lemonade, isn't that *uncarbonated* fruit juice, with water and sugar
added ?
There also is something called "soft drink", I think this is the right word.

>Especially in Sweden this formed a large tradition
>of the known fact that ducks drink L?skebl?sk
Oh yes, of course they drink *L?skeblask*!
(roughly translated: soft drink wash,
where wash means a liquid that looks like used dishwater)
There also is a competitor to L?skeblask called Bubbelblurp.
The word "l?skeblask" is used by lots of people, including "normal" people.
Many of them probably don't know the origin of the word.

>I wonder if the known fact in Sweden originates in a barks-story,
>maybe even the boxing story where Donald has been drinking
>much too much sodapop
Yes, that is WDC 282: Bubbleweight Champ
I'm not sure this is the first occurrence of the word,
perhaps someone else knows that,
but I remember when I read this story as a kid,
and never understood why Donald became sick from drinking L?skeblask.
All kids did that and we never behaved like this :-)

BTW, the name "L?ngtbortistan" (Farawaystan) is sometimes used in Sweden
when you refer to an indefinite distant locality.

kjell cron?
Eta Beta
STEVEN

>(so howcome nobody has mentioned the 2 sf writers who wrote Disney stuff
>in the 50s: William Nolan and Charles Beaumont?)

Oh, yes, I forgot. But they didn't actually use any S/F theme in the
coupla stories they wrote... to be honest, I only remembered the
"Mystery of Diamond Mountain" one (MM 47, art by Paul Murry), maybe
inspired from F.S. Fitzgerald's "The diamond as big as the Ritz",
and had to check the inducks to find out the other one, "Mystery of
Whalers' Cove" (MM 43, art Jack Bradbury).

Was there any other Disney stories written by them ?

GARY

>Pohl Anderson

I guess that was a momentary lapse in writing, and you might have
meant Frederik Pohl and Poul Anderson... :-)

And since some of my favourite authors hadn't been mentioned yet,
here's another name-dropping bout... :-)

Philip K. Dick, Roger Zelazny, Clifford Simak, Ursula Le Guin,
Michael Moorcock, James G. Ballard, Cordwainer Smith...

er... alright, I'd better stop now... but not before having
mentioned the funniest writers alive (imho), Terry Pratchett
and Robert Rankin... fans of Douglas Adams with a penchant for
Fantasy shouldn't miss the Discworld series (Pratchett) and
the Brentford trilogy (Rankin, a trilogy of 5, maybe 6 novels
by now, as usual... :-)

>Okay, not really on topic, but there it is.

Well, this might be just the starting point for a nice discussion
about S/F and Fantasy in Disney comics...

For instance, although I'm clearly a fan of both genres, I don't
appreciate much explicit S/F or Fantasy "ambience" in Disney comics,
except for the odd space travel or a bit of magic every now and then...
can't explain exactly why, it just seems "out of place" to me...

Cheers

Eta Beta
Eero-Pekka Halinen
> >>>Douglas Adams also writes very good stories.
>
>You mean "wrote". Hadn't you heard?

Oh yeah, I heard about it. Sad. Too young (yes, I think he was young!). I
don't speak enghlish as my mother tongue, so you can expect this kind of
slips from me.

Yes, and I know the Black Knight doesn't want to steal all of the $crooges
money, he wants his own "Trophy". And the other problem is that he can't do
this in a story. Good ($crooge) must win, so you would have to make a so
fine "clue" to the tale that it would be interesting trough the whole story,
though he wouldn't get to destroy all of the $crooges money (The "bad
denouement" would have to be turned into a "good denouement")

Maybe sometime you could strain your every nerve and find out a way for him
to destroy the money without destroying the bin. And if you (maybe in your
pension, if you ever have one :-)) you could have time for that story.

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Kriton Kyrimis
OLAF:

> -1- Sometimes personal answers has been posted on the list. If I ask of
> something, you give me the answer. Fair enough. But I don't see the point of
> sending it BOTH to my personal mailadress (harryklein at hotmail.com) AND to
> the mailing list (dcml at stp.ling.uu.se).

There is a point if you receive the digest. By sending a reply to both the
recipient and to the list, the sender ensures that the recipient receives
the reply immediately, instead of waiting for up to 24 hours. Think of
it as an added courtesy to you whenever you receive such replies.

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
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Eero-Pekka Halinen
>What I really don't like about Van Horn's art is what happens to his Ducks'
>eyes when they're *closed* -- the edges go away and we're left with just
>two
>curves. Reminds me too much of anime. :-)

What's wrong about anime?

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Eero-Pekka Halinen
...how to use these digests? They're just a message full of numbers (is that
a some kind of an IP address?). Share us with your information!
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Don Rosa
From: HoyMurphy at aol.com
>>>>If Duckburg was founded by Cornelius Coot, why is it called Duckburg
instead
of Cootsville or something like that?

As Olaf Solstrand partially explained, if you "accept" my stories, I told
the origin of Duckburg back in "His Majesty McDuck" in 1988. Sir Francis
Drake established Fort Drakeborough when he claimed the land of New Albion
which was to be England's first settlement of their claim on western North
America. But the location of New Albion was lost to history and England's
claim was never acknowledged. (This part I'm not making up!) Anyway, after
Fort Drakeborough was acquired by Cornelius Coot in 1818, he later
"Americanized" the name to Fort Duckburg. (For our non-fluent-in-English
members, "drake" is a male duck or sometimes just a duck and a word
slightly more commonly used in England than in America.

From: "Olaf Solstrand" <harryklein at hotmail.com>
>>>>According to "Life of Scrooge" by Don Rosa, this crook met Scrooge on
the
Mississippi near Loisville, Kentucky :) in 1880. At this time, he had three
grown-up sons, so he must have been at least somewhere around 40. If that
is
correct, and he is born in 1840, and the stories find place in the 1950s,
this vigorous man is over 110 years old!!! Is there a logic explanation on
something like that?

Nope. It baffles science!
(Louisville... not Loisville. Named after Louis XIV of France, not Lois
Lane of Metropolis.)

>>>>In the "Scrooge 50 years in Duckburg" story, he seems to be very
active. He
even flies one of Gyro's flying bikes. Yikes. And that's supposed to be
1952, where he is over 110 years old. Please help me out on this.

When I combined all the old Barks stories (that were never meant to be
combined, don't bother to remind me of that), I came up with several (but
not many!) internal contradictions. This was one. Barks had shown
Blackheart Beagle and his sons in the 1880 riverboat story (no title) and
showed another character who would logically be the same guy, "Grandpa
Beagle", in "The Money Well" in the present. But I liked the character of
Blackheart Beagle too much to let this age problem stand in my way of using
him. I just don't explicitly point out his potential age.
So, just think of him as "spry".
Anders Christian Siveb¾k
Hi
HOY
The reason may be that barks invented the word Duckburg before he invented
Cornelius Coot - am i remembering right there?
At least the cartonnist Don Rossa gives his explantion in the story of
King Scrooge the first. Here we see who first made something there, and
why Duckburg was called Drakeborough before it got the name Duckburg.

Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
Anders Christian Siveb¾k
Olaf,
Yes i realise there's a story every august on beginning in school again,
but as I'm becoming an evil teacher (nah... they aren't evil!) I think
about the fact that school is much more than starting at school, it's
learning and having fun while learning (at least it should be so, at
times).
I notice a change in the attitde towards schools from the publisher. in
70'es and such the opinion from them was that you shouldn't read DD in
school, because it might cause that the teachers would get angry with DD.
Today "personality" tests in the weekly, around school-beginning sometimes
tells you that you are downright crazy if you like going to school. (?!)

I never do remember fully the name of that JW-story you mention, the title
is something like that. check the Inducks, if you want to be sure.

I like your tryings to fit much of this into a time-shedule, I sometimes
do it myself, with the kids though, I don't think there's a time
difference (for them) from the not-wanting-to-go-school to the JW-stories.
Maybe the explantion that i also once saw in a story drawn by Vicar, is
that they find they don't need to go to school, they are so wise they know
it all already.

I seem to have the same opinion as you, that DD should take schools a bit
more positive, to tell the kids that it's also okay to like to learn
something. The danish/swedish writer of disney comics, Per-Erik hedland
said in an article in the biggest danish newspaper that he didn't try to
learn kids anything in his comics, none other than moral and ethics, and
that it's okay to have a bad day.
I wont tell you what else he said, as i'm utterly convinced the journalist
misquoted him (eg. so that what he says can be mis-interpreted into the
fact that he invented HD & L)

On one hand I hate that they call persons and places other things than
they are in reality. On the other hand I can see Duckburg as the kind of
parallel world I presented to you some time ago - why shouldn't places
have slightly different names.
At least in the stories by some of the poeople who can look into that
other world (metaphorically speaking, of course - all this is quite
hypothetical!)

Also, an explanation is that the names are funny, and are easy to find the
real name behind. The reason for those silly names in eg. scandinavian
stories, and german ones too - is that the translators were and maybe
still are told to cover the names, so eg. Soviet, Vietnam or some other
country that could declare war or the like would not see the countries
name in the comic. Cultural reasons could be the explanation too. The
codex said that you shouldn't show any group as being evil or such, or
show any country's name. That's the reason for the scandinavian term:
langtbortistan (far-away-stan) - Originally I think this was near India,
as many countries "overthere" end with a stan (could very possibly mean
land or such) - The fact that I think that place is near India also made
me mad, when some travel-reporter in the local paper claimed that
Timbuctou was the capital of Farawaystan - It's two different parts of the
world, and timboctou exists!

BTW I just remember a cover showing all pupils in a class in Duckburg. It
was sort of a gag cover I guess. As Ludwig was teacher, and the pupils
where both ducks, mice, wolf, pigs, Goofy's nephew Gilbert and Gyro's
nephew Newton.

Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
Rob Klein
Regarding Olaf Solestrand's question of Blackheart Beagle's age:
Blackheart Beagle must have been born during the mid 1800s. He encountered
Scrooge in the latter's young adulthood. This did not take place in the
1950s, when Donald and the Boys were tagging along with Scrooge. If
Blackheart DID survive until that time, he should have been shown as
EXTREMELY old and frail.

He should have been the grandfather, or great grandfather of the 1950s
Beagle Boys. Barks used Granpa Beagle in "The Money Well". He was NOT
referred to as "Blackheart". He did not look like Blackheart. I've also
seen a "Pa" or "Papa" Beagle (not by Barks).

I am sure Don will provide us with a more definate logic on this subject
(as he must have considered this issue carefully in writing histories.

Rob Klein
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