Hi everybody,
does any of you know if italian MM Mistery Magazine is over? I have waited
till now, but the last issue (hope not last in the definitive sense) is
number 11, 2001.
To tell the truth, the story seemed over (Mickey gets back home), but
I hoped it was only a trick of the writers.
Thanks in advance.
--
Antonio Maschio
<tbin at libero.it>
Author
Topic: 200106
(445 messages)
Antonio Maschio
About Mickey Mouse Mistery Magazine
Message 406 -
2001-06-27 at 01:33:44
Rob Klein
Norwegians, Donald & Barks
Message 407 -
2001-06-27 at 02:41:28
Regarding owen Heitmann's & Halsten Aastebol's comments on popularity and
knowledge of Donald Duck comics and Barks in Norway (and Western Europe in
general):
I believe Halsten is correct. Every Norwegian boy is not likely to be a
Donaldist, or an "expert" on Barks, - but most of them certainly know who
Barks was, and have seen a few stories by him, and have read Donald Duck &
Co. either at their own house, a cousin's, or a friend's, or in the waiting
room of a doctor or dentists office( I have seen them there), or a barber
shop.
In my visits to Norway, I have spent time with "average families" with whom
I came into contact through non-Disney and non -comics industry sources.
Their education levels were probably "average" for Norway, running the
gamut from Gymnasium through graduate doctorates. These people lived in
Kragero(e), Hellenes, Natwig, Kristiansand and other small and middle-sized
towns and villages on the southeastern coast. The parents of the families
ranged from bus drivers and insurance office workers, to boat captains and
tourist shop owners. ALL (over 100)of their children above 3 years old had
read Donald Duck & Co. I talked to them, individually, on that subject, as
I was drawing pictures for many of them (more than 50) at a 3-day Weekend
50-year 4-family reunion in Kragero. The other children were "interviewed"
on the subject of Disney Comics, whenever I become friendly with adults and
meet their children. Most of them had at least seen features on Carl Barks
in the weekly comic or in an album. Most knew he was the most popular
artist. Several of them had remembered some of MY stories (although they
didn't know my name- as credits weren't written on the books). I have seen
a similar situation to be true in my travels in Sweden and living in
Denmark. In my many years in Holland I can only remember meeting a handful
out of thousands of males who had not read Donald Duck (at least in the
manner I listed above). And I wonder, even, if those were lying! Girls
read it regularly to a lesser degree, but I'm guessing, MUCH MORE than a
North American or Australian/New Zealander might imagine!
I doubt of "most" of the children in Norway are Donaldists or experts on
Barks. But, I would bet most (a large percentage) of them have heard of
him, and probably read Donald Duck regularly for at least a few years. I
can't speak for France, but I would guess that Disney comics are much less
pervasive their than in Scandinavia or Holland. I would guess most kids in
Italy would have read Topolino in the old days and possibly the Disney
Comics are still Very VERY popular. I spend some time visiting Brussels
every year, and sometimes Antwerp and Liege. I have seen very few used
Disney comics in book and comic shops (a few beat-up Super Picsou Geant in
Brussels, nothing in Liege and a few Dutch weeklies in Antwerp). The comic
shops usually had NO Disney (new or old!). I lived in Bremen, Germany for
much of 5 years. I knew about 50 children of adults I was friendly with.
They ALL read Micky Maus. Most of them knew who Barks was (except the very
young). Most of them knew who the "Hamburger" Donaldists were (they have
been on the news on ZDF, 1Ard, regional networks, etc. many times).
It will be interesting to hear from members from the various countries to
give a more complete picture of their situations. Cheers, Rob Klein
knowledge of Donald Duck comics and Barks in Norway (and Western Europe in
general):
I believe Halsten is correct. Every Norwegian boy is not likely to be a
Donaldist, or an "expert" on Barks, - but most of them certainly know who
Barks was, and have seen a few stories by him, and have read Donald Duck &
Co. either at their own house, a cousin's, or a friend's, or in the waiting
room of a doctor or dentists office( I have seen them there), or a barber
shop.
In my visits to Norway, I have spent time with "average families" with whom
I came into contact through non-Disney and non -comics industry sources.
Their education levels were probably "average" for Norway, running the
gamut from Gymnasium through graduate doctorates. These people lived in
Kragero(e), Hellenes, Natwig, Kristiansand and other small and middle-sized
towns and villages on the southeastern coast. The parents of the families
ranged from bus drivers and insurance office workers, to boat captains and
tourist shop owners. ALL (over 100)of their children above 3 years old had
read Donald Duck & Co. I talked to them, individually, on that subject, as
I was drawing pictures for many of them (more than 50) at a 3-day Weekend
50-year 4-family reunion in Kragero. The other children were "interviewed"
on the subject of Disney Comics, whenever I become friendly with adults and
meet their children. Most of them had at least seen features on Carl Barks
in the weekly comic or in an album. Most knew he was the most popular
artist. Several of them had remembered some of MY stories (although they
didn't know my name- as credits weren't written on the books). I have seen
a similar situation to be true in my travels in Sweden and living in
Denmark. In my many years in Holland I can only remember meeting a handful
out of thousands of males who had not read Donald Duck (at least in the
manner I listed above). And I wonder, even, if those were lying! Girls
read it regularly to a lesser degree, but I'm guessing, MUCH MORE than a
North American or Australian/New Zealander might imagine!
I doubt of "most" of the children in Norway are Donaldists or experts on
Barks. But, I would bet most (a large percentage) of them have heard of
him, and probably read Donald Duck regularly for at least a few years. I
can't speak for France, but I would guess that Disney comics are much less
pervasive their than in Scandinavia or Holland. I would guess most kids in
Italy would have read Topolino in the old days and possibly the Disney
Comics are still Very VERY popular. I spend some time visiting Brussels
every year, and sometimes Antwerp and Liege. I have seen very few used
Disney comics in book and comic shops (a few beat-up Super Picsou Geant in
Brussels, nothing in Liege and a few Dutch weeklies in Antwerp). The comic
shops usually had NO Disney (new or old!). I lived in Bremen, Germany for
much of 5 years. I knew about 50 children of adults I was friendly with.
They ALL read Micky Maus. Most of them knew who Barks was (except the very
young). Most of them knew who the "Hamburger" Donaldists were (they have
been on the news on ZDF, 1Ard, regional networks, etc. many times).
It will be interesting to hear from members from the various countries to
give a more complete picture of their situations. Cheers, Rob Klein
M. Mitchell Marmel
Lydia the Tattooed Lady
Message 408 -
2001-06-27 at 03:00:23
At 5:54 PM +0200 6/26/01, Olivier wrote:
>I also included those you mentioned, to identify them and give some quotes.
>(By the way, "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner" is not a song)
>
>You will find the list at:
>http://ob7.free.fr/mouse_ducks/articles/musicl.htm
Here's the complete lyrics to "Lydia, the Tattooed Lady":
http://www.ibras.dk/comedy/marx.htm#Lydia
And the song itself:
http://www.barbneal.com/wav/marxbros/groucho/grouch62.wav
-MMM-
>I also included those you mentioned, to identify them and give some quotes.
>(By the way, "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner" is not a song)
>
>You will find the list at:
>http://ob7.free.fr/mouse_ducks/articles/musicl.htm
Here's the complete lyrics to "Lydia, the Tattooed Lady":
http://www.ibras.dk/comedy/marx.htm#Lydia
And the song itself:
http://www.barbneal.com/wav/marxbros/groucho/grouch62.wav
-MMM-
M. Mitchell Marmel
Alternate version of Lydia the Tattooed Lady
Message 409 -
2001-06-27 at 03:14:56
Halsten Aastebol
Norwegians, Donald & Barks
Message 410 -
2001-06-27 at 11:14:35
At 16:41 26.06.01 -0700, Rob Klein wrote:
>Regarding owen Heitmann's & Halsten Aastebol's comments on popularity and
>knowledge of Donald Duck comics and Barks in Norway (and Western Europe in
>general):
> ALL (over 100)of their children above 3 years old had
>read Donald Duck & Co. I talked to them, individually, on that subject, as
>I was drawing pictures for many of them (more than 50) at a 3-day Weekend
>50-year 4-family reunion in Kragero.
This discussion is getting really interesting!
You are making an important observation here: ALL of the children aged
between 3-5 and say maybe 15 read the weekly Donald Duck & Co in a range
from regularly to a minimum of something like 5 weeklies a year. This is
the case! And I cannot imagine any Norwegian children not reading Donald
Duck & Co at all. Well, I don't know for sure about the immigrant
communities though.
Let me add that I really enjoyed Owen's anecdote!
Halsten
>Regarding owen Heitmann's & Halsten Aastebol's comments on popularity and
>knowledge of Donald Duck comics and Barks in Norway (and Western Europe in
>general):
> ALL (over 100)of their children above 3 years old had
>read Donald Duck & Co. I talked to them, individually, on that subject, as
>I was drawing pictures for many of them (more than 50) at a 3-day Weekend
>50-year 4-family reunion in Kragero.
This discussion is getting really interesting!
You are making an important observation here: ALL of the children aged
between 3-5 and say maybe 15 read the weekly Donald Duck & Co in a range
from regularly to a minimum of something like 5 weeklies a year. This is
the case! And I cannot imagine any Norwegian children not reading Donald
Duck & Co at all. Well, I don't know for sure about the immigrant
communities though.
Let me add that I really enjoyed Owen's anecdote!
Halsten
Olivier
Lydia
Message 411 -
2001-06-27 at 13:12:43
Thank you very much for the lyrics & links to "Lydia", MMM!
A very funny song.
And the in-joke in " Croesus" is even funnier now!
Imagine Donald singing it-- and even though I consider they all
speak "normally" in the comics, imagine the cartoon Donald
singing it thanks to to the talent of the late Clarence Nash!
It would be nice to have a special page on a web site with such
files: "Lydia", "Finlandia", ...
Thanks again!
Olivier
A very funny song.
And the in-joke in " Croesus" is even funnier now!
Imagine Donald singing it-- and even though I consider they all
speak "normally" in the comics, imagine the cartoon Donald
singing it thanks to to the talent of the late Clarence Nash!
It would be nice to have a special page on a web site with such
files: "Lydia", "Finlandia", ...
Thanks again!
Olivier
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
La Pietra Zodiacale & the Italian Disney school
Message 412 -
2001-06-27 at 13:43:38
SPREA to KRITON:
re: "La Pietra Zodiacale"
> > Judging from the first installment, I was not particularly impressed.
>
> Uh? I thought Archontis meant "next week" since there's no trace of it in
> the summary he provided for MM 1822.
No, I didn't mean "next week"; you see, as strange as it may sound, "MIKY
MAOUS" hits the stands in Athens one week before it does so in Thessaloniki!
KRITON:
> > On the other hand, I was not particularly impressed with "The Ice Sword"
> > or "Once Upon A Time in America" (or whatever that series about Mickey's
> > ancestors taking part in key moments of early American history was
> > called) either, so what do I know?
Like I wrote to Kriton, "Des Gustibus Non Disputandum Est". The "Ice-Sword"
Trilogy is among my favorites in the Italian canon. I also enjoyed "Once
Upon A Time In America". On the other hand, "La Pietra Zodiacale" tired me
at many points.
SPREA to KRITON:
> > Judging from my previous postings, and from a discussion I had with
> > Archontis on the subject of new Italian Artists, I'm beginning to
suspect
> > that I'm turning into a grouchy old man who's stuck in the past,
refusing
> > to see any value in change. :(
>
> Massimo De Vita is no *new* Italian artist :-)
Massimo De Vita along with Giorgio Cavazzano are the only ones "left" from
the old august group of Italian Maestros. Carpi is gone, Scarpa left Disney
Italia to concentrate on cartooning and is producing only a handful of
stories per year for Egmont, and Bottaro is semi-retired.
MDV and Cavazzano begun drawing for Mondadori in the mid-sixties and did not
develop their own individual styles until well into the '70s. So in some
ways they are "new" compared to the other Italian Maestros. I hear that MDV
does not consider worthwhile any of his work prior to the '80s, for example.
In a way, I can sympathize with Kriton's reluctance in accepting those
artists: Up to a couple years ago, I used to be a Barks and Rosa "purist",
and it took me awhile to appreciate the works of Cavazzano and MDV. Now I'm
thankful for giving all these people a chance; otherwise I would have missed
out on a ton of truly wonderful stories!
Cheers,
Archontis
re: "La Pietra Zodiacale"
> > Judging from the first installment, I was not particularly impressed.
>
> Uh? I thought Archontis meant "next week" since there's no trace of it in
> the summary he provided for MM 1822.
No, I didn't mean "next week"; you see, as strange as it may sound, "MIKY
MAOUS" hits the stands in Athens one week before it does so in Thessaloniki!
KRITON:
> > On the other hand, I was not particularly impressed with "The Ice Sword"
> > or "Once Upon A Time in America" (or whatever that series about Mickey's
> > ancestors taking part in key moments of early American history was
> > called) either, so what do I know?
Like I wrote to Kriton, "Des Gustibus Non Disputandum Est". The "Ice-Sword"
Trilogy is among my favorites in the Italian canon. I also enjoyed "Once
Upon A Time In America". On the other hand, "La Pietra Zodiacale" tired me
at many points.
SPREA to KRITON:
> > Judging from my previous postings, and from a discussion I had with
> > Archontis on the subject of new Italian Artists, I'm beginning to
suspect
> > that I'm turning into a grouchy old man who's stuck in the past,
refusing
> > to see any value in change. :(
>
> Massimo De Vita is no *new* Italian artist :-)
Massimo De Vita along with Giorgio Cavazzano are the only ones "left" from
the old august group of Italian Maestros. Carpi is gone, Scarpa left Disney
Italia to concentrate on cartooning and is producing only a handful of
stories per year for Egmont, and Bottaro is semi-retired.
MDV and Cavazzano begun drawing for Mondadori in the mid-sixties and did not
develop their own individual styles until well into the '70s. So in some
ways they are "new" compared to the other Italian Maestros. I hear that MDV
does not consider worthwhile any of his work prior to the '80s, for example.
In a way, I can sympathize with Kriton's reluctance in accepting those
artists: Up to a couple years ago, I used to be a Barks and Rosa "purist",
and it took me awhile to appreciate the works of Cavazzano and MDV. Now I'm
thankful for giving all these people a chance; otherwise I would have missed
out on a ton of truly wonderful stories!
Cheers,
Archontis
M. Mitchell Marmel
Lydia
Message 413 -
2001-06-27 at 13:58:38
At 12:12 PM +0200 6/27/01, Olivier wrote:
>Thank you very much for the lyrics & links to "Lydia", MMM!
>A very funny song.
One can never have too much Marx Brothers, I always say. :D
>And the in-joke in " Croesus" is even funnier now!
>Imagine Donald singing it-- and even though I consider they all
>speak "normally" in the comics, imagine the cartoon Donald
>singing it thanks to to the talent of the late Clarence Nash!
Odear. That *IS* funny...
>It would be nice to have a special page on a web site with such
>files: "Lydia", "Finlandia", ...
Or at least links, yes.
>Thanks again!
My pleasure.
-MMM-
>Thank you very much for the lyrics & links to "Lydia", MMM!
>A very funny song.
One can never have too much Marx Brothers, I always say. :D
>And the in-joke in " Croesus" is even funnier now!
>Imagine Donald singing it-- and even though I consider they all
>speak "normally" in the comics, imagine the cartoon Donald
>singing it thanks to to the talent of the late Clarence Nash!
Odear. That *IS* funny...
>It would be nice to have a special page on a web site with such
>files: "Lydia", "Finlandia", ...
Or at least links, yes.
>Thanks again!
My pleasure.
-MMM-
Kriton Kyrimis
DCML digest, Vol 1 #590 - 12 msgs
Message 414 -
2001-06-27 at 14:02:02
SPREA:
> Uh? I thought Archontis meant "next week" since there's no trace of it in
> the summary he provided for MM 1822.
You may recall that when Archontis began this feature, he mentioned that
he would be posting the contents of *last week's* issue. This is because,
for reasons known only to the publishers, MIKY MAOUS etc. are distributed
in Thessaloniki one week after they are distributed in Athens.
> Strange for the "Ice Sword", not so strange for the "Once Upon a Time in
> America". The "Ice Sword" is mainly one single story, with perfect art
> (perfect character design and perfect background), and perfect script
> (characters who are really themselves).
Perhaps not so strange, as from what I've seen of Massimo De Vita's art,
I'd call it an acquired taste, rather than perfect.
As for the script, it somehow seemed too simplistic for my tastes.
Having begun my acquaintance with the field of fantasy by reading Tolkien,
I'm afraid that my standards are a bit high in this area.
Oh, and it was more like three stories set in the same universe, rather
than a single story.
> Massimo De Vita is no *new* Italian artist :-)
He is to me! I did mention that I'm turning into an *old* grouch,
didn't I? ;-)
ROB:
> These people lived in
> ...
> Hellenes
Is there really a town in Norway called Hellenes?!?!?
For those who don't know, "Hellenes" is the Roman alphabet transcription
of the name we Greeks use for ourselves, in the same way that our
country's name is "Hellas" rather than "Greece".
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"And tell them the Doctor told you."
"Who?"
"Exactly!"
-----
> Uh? I thought Archontis meant "next week" since there's no trace of it in
> the summary he provided for MM 1822.
You may recall that when Archontis began this feature, he mentioned that
he would be posting the contents of *last week's* issue. This is because,
for reasons known only to the publishers, MIKY MAOUS etc. are distributed
in Thessaloniki one week after they are distributed in Athens.
> Strange for the "Ice Sword", not so strange for the "Once Upon a Time in
> America". The "Ice Sword" is mainly one single story, with perfect art
> (perfect character design and perfect background), and perfect script
> (characters who are really themselves).
Perhaps not so strange, as from what I've seen of Massimo De Vita's art,
I'd call it an acquired taste, rather than perfect.
As for the script, it somehow seemed too simplistic for my tastes.
Having begun my acquaintance with the field of fantasy by reading Tolkien,
I'm afraid that my standards are a bit high in this area.
Oh, and it was more like three stories set in the same universe, rather
than a single story.
> Massimo De Vita is no *new* Italian artist :-)
He is to me! I did mention that I'm turning into an *old* grouch,
didn't I? ;-)
ROB:
> These people lived in
> ...
> Hellenes
Is there really a town in Norway called Hellenes?!?!?
For those who don't know, "Hellenes" is the Roman alphabet transcription
of the name we Greeks use for ourselves, in the same way that our
country's name is "Hellas" rather than "Greece".
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"And tell them the Doctor told you."
"Who?"
"Exactly!"
-----
Halsten Aastebol
DCML digest, Vol 1 #590 - 12 msgs
Message 415 -
2001-06-27 at 15:23:07
At 14:02 27.06.01 +0300, Kriton Kyrimis wrote:
>ROB:
>
> > These people lived in
> > ...
> > Hellenes
>
>Is there really a town in Norway called Hellenes?!?!?
>
>For those who don't know, "Hellenes" is the Roman alphabet transcription
>of the name we Greeks use for ourselves, in the same way that our
>country's name is "Hellas" rather than "Greece".
This should probably be Hellesnes, a very small village on the southern tip
of Norway. There is also Helleneset, but that's a peninsula in the opposite
end of Norway.
Rob also mentioned Natwig. I have no idea where this might be. Rob?
Halsten
>ROB:
>
> > These people lived in
> > ...
> > Hellenes
>
>Is there really a town in Norway called Hellenes?!?!?
>
>For those who don't know, "Hellenes" is the Roman alphabet transcription
>of the name we Greeks use for ourselves, in the same way that our
>country's name is "Hellas" rather than "Greece".
This should probably be Hellesnes, a very small village on the southern tip
of Norway. There is also Helleneset, but that's a peninsula in the opposite
end of Norway.
Rob also mentioned Natwig. I have no idea where this might be. Rob?
Halsten
Anders Christian Sivebaek
590:Paperinik schools
Message 416 -
2001-06-27 at 18:32:25
ME:
>> italian. I do have memories of paperinik in school too, but I don't
>> know where they come from (thick or thin pocket)
S?REN
>Really? It's "Paperinik e il primo giorno di scuola" (I TL 1285-B)
>drawn by late Scala. You'll find it in JB 40. Quite an interesting
>story from Concina--one of those stories I don't really like but for
>some reason can't get out of my head. If you don't have JB 40, go get
>it for only 2$ in your local store, AC! :-)
I have had JB 40 in my collection for some 6-7 years or so, meaning
it's one
of the ones I actually read. I think i remember getting it or buying it
in
one of those double packets or 4-double packets you could get at
OBS! once (big danish warehouse). I've been a fan of Paperinik in the
old italian style for quite some time, and I still long for the day
when I find that
first episode where Donald finds the house. It's in the big white book,
and
nowhere else. - Means I'd rather have it in german, that in the wrong
format of
those big books (5 or 6 panelrows per page)
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
>> italian. I do have memories of paperinik in school too, but I don't
>> know where they come from (thick or thin pocket)
S?REN
>Really? It's "Paperinik e il primo giorno di scuola" (I TL 1285-B)
>drawn by late Scala. You'll find it in JB 40. Quite an interesting
>story from Concina--one of those stories I don't really like but for
>some reason can't get out of my head. If you don't have JB 40, go get
>it for only 2$ in your local store, AC! :-)
I have had JB 40 in my collection for some 6-7 years or so, meaning
it's one
of the ones I actually read. I think i remember getting it or buying it
in
one of those double packets or 4-double packets you could get at
OBS! once (big danish warehouse). I've been a fan of Paperinik in the
old italian style for quite some time, and I still long for the day
when I find that
first episode where Donald finds the house. It's in the big white book,
and
nowhere else. - Means I'd rather have it in german, that in the wrong
format of
those big books (5 or 6 panelrows per page)
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Francesco Spreafico
About Mickey Mouse Mistery Magazine
Message 417 -
2001-06-27 at 22:22:20
From: "Antonio Maschio" <tbin at libero.it>
> does any of you know if italian MM Mistery Magazine is over? I have waited
> till now, but the last issue (hope not last in the definitive sense) is
> number 11, 2001.
That's the last, in evry possible sense.
As long as we know, something else might appear in the future, not a
special, not a mini, God only knows what, just "something". But the regular
series is over.
--
Sprea
http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo
> does any of you know if italian MM Mistery Magazine is over? I have waited
> till now, but the last issue (hope not last in the definitive sense) is
> number 11, 2001.
That's the last, in evry possible sense.
As long as we know, something else might appear in the future, not a
special, not a mini, God only knows what, just "something". But the regular
series is over.
--
Sprea
http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo
Olivier
Do not open till June 29th!
Message 418 -
2001-06-28 at 02:35:06
Hello everyone!
I'm sending this now because I won't be able
to do it on Friday. Thank you for waiting till then
to read this..
...
...
...
Today is Mr Keno Don Rosa's 50th birthday!
Accordingly, you will find "a little something special" on M&D.
You can either look for the hidden link on the "Don Rosa Papers" page,
or follow the link below:
http://ob7.free.fr/mouse_ducks/events/dr50.htm
As usual, everything is by Don Rosa,
and I "arranged" the images & dialogues with the utmost respect.
Unfortunately I ran out of time and had troubles with my
computer, so that I couldn't do as nice a job as I wished: sorry!
Best wishes to you all-- and especially Mr Don Rosa!
Olivier
I'm sending this now because I won't be able
to do it on Friday. Thank you for waiting till then
to read this..
...
...
...
Today is Mr Keno Don Rosa's 50th birthday!
Accordingly, you will find "a little something special" on M&D.
You can either look for the hidden link on the "Don Rosa Papers" page,
or follow the link below:
http://ob7.free.fr/mouse_ducks/events/dr50.htm
As usual, everything is by Don Rosa,
and I "arranged" the images & dialogues with the utmost respect.
Unfortunately I ran out of time and had troubles with my
computer, so that I couldn't do as nice a job as I wished: sorry!
Best wishes to you all-- and especially Mr Don Rosa!
Olivier
Doukakis, Mark (NBC)
DUCKS AND "THE ILIAD."
Message 419 -
2001-06-28 at 03:17:38
One of the earliest Duck stories that I enjoyed was from a Greek issue of
MIKY MAOYS from about 1966. It was probably translated from an Italian
story. It was a loose adaptation of the "Iliad," and although I don't
remember much at all about the story-line ( I was about seven or eight) I
recall that in the story, Scrooge, who had a similarity to Homer's Menelaus,
recruits Donald (Achilles?) and launches a mission to recover a chess-set
(or chess-board) of some special significance that had been pilfered by
Gladstone Gander (Paris of Troy?). That's really all I remember!
I would very much like to find this story, as I've always been fascinated by
any mythological and/or historical link in the Duck stories. Does anyone
know of this story? Is it indexed? Would any of my Greek compatriots out
there be willing to sell a copy to me and ship it to the U.S.? (I would
pre-pay shipping, of course.)
Thanks, in advance for any clue!
Mark Doukakis
Because e-mail can be altered electronically,
the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed.
MIKY MAOYS from about 1966. It was probably translated from an Italian
story. It was a loose adaptation of the "Iliad," and although I don't
remember much at all about the story-line ( I was about seven or eight) I
recall that in the story, Scrooge, who had a similarity to Homer's Menelaus,
recruits Donald (Achilles?) and launches a mission to recover a chess-set
(or chess-board) of some special significance that had been pilfered by
Gladstone Gander (Paris of Troy?). That's really all I remember!
I would very much like to find this story, as I've always been fascinated by
any mythological and/or historical link in the Duck stories. Does anyone
know of this story? Is it indexed? Would any of my Greek compatriots out
there be willing to sell a copy to me and ship it to the U.S.? (I would
pre-pay shipping, of course.)
Thanks, in advance for any clue!
Mark Doukakis
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DUCKS AND "THE ILIAD."
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2001-06-28 at 10:41:02
Mark:
> One of the earliest Duck stories that I enjoyed was from a Greek issue of
> MIKY MAOYS from about 1966. It was probably translated from an Italian
> story. It was a loose adaptation of the "Iliad," [...]
> Does anyone know of this story? Is it indexed?
Sure! It's an Italian story, indeed: "Paperiade", written by Guido Martina
and drawn by Luciano Bottaro, first appeared in "Topolino" #202-204 (1959).
There's no Greek reprint indexed so far, but maybe Archontis can provide
more info?
Ciao,
Armando
> One of the earliest Duck stories that I enjoyed was from a Greek issue of
> MIKY MAOYS from about 1966. It was probably translated from an Italian
> story. It was a loose adaptation of the "Iliad," [...]
> Does anyone know of this story? Is it indexed?
Sure! It's an Italian story, indeed: "Paperiade", written by Guido Martina
and drawn by Luciano Bottaro, first appeared in "Topolino" #202-204 (1959).
There's no Greek reprint indexed so far, but maybe Archontis can provide
more info?
Ciao,
Armando