ARMANDO to MARK:
> > One of the earliest Duck stories that I enjoyed was from a Greek issue
of
> > MIKY MAOYS from about 1966. It was probably translated from an Italian
> > story. It was a loose adaptation of the "Iliad," [...]
> > Does anyone know of this story? Is it indexed?
>
> Sure! It's an Italian story, indeed: "Paperiade", written by Guido Martina
> and drawn by Luciano Bottaro, first appeared in "Topolino" #202-204
(1959).
> There's no Greek reprint indexed so far, but maybe Archontis can provide
> more info?
This story has been re-printed in KLASIKA, and I have a copy of it from one
of my visits to Athens 2 years ago. I can't recall the issue #, but Kriton
may have it handy since I remember discussing this story with him.
TO MARK:
Please get in touch with me; if and when I locate a copy of the KLASIKA
issue re-printing that story, I'll make sure to get it for you.
Cheers,
Archontis
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Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Assistant Academic Dean & Associate Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki, GREECE
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Dr. Archontis Pantsios
DUCKS AND "THE ILIAD."
Message 421 -
2001-06-28 at 13:33:45
Kriton Kyrimis
DUCKS AND "THE ILIAD."
Message 422 -
2001-06-28 at 14:04:57
MARK:
> One of the earliest Duck stories that I enjoyed was from a Greek issue of
> MIKY MAOYS from about 1966. It was probably translated from an Italian
> story. It was a loose adaptation of the "Iliad," and although I don't
> remember much at all about the story-line ( I was about seven or eight) I
> recall that in the story, Scrooge, who had a similarity to Homer's Menelaus,
> recruits Donald (Achilles?) and launches a mission to recover a chess-set
> (or chess-board) of some special significance that had been pilfered by
> Gladstone Gander (Paris of Troy?). That's really all I remember!
In the Greek edition it was a checker-board, and the special thing about
it was that if you put a grain of rice on the first square, two grains
would appear on the second, four on the third, etc. The story ends with
Donald breaking the checker-board on Gladstone's head into 64 pieces,
and Scrooge making them try all possible combinations of putting the
squares together again, until they would hit the one combination that
would turn the checker-board into a magic one.
Why checker-board instead of a chess-board, given that this is clearly
based on the legend about the reward that the inventor of chess is
supposed to have asked for his invention? Well, the story relies on
Scrooge tricking Donald into believing that the Beagles had kidnapped
Daisy rather than having stolen his checker-board. In Greek, the word
"ntama" (pronounced "dama") can mean either the game of checkers, the
queen of hearts, or a dance partner. This is *very* weak word-play, but
it was probably the best the translator could do. I wonder what was in
the original script, and whether the word-play is much better in Italian.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Nobody would have the gumption to tell the captain of the U.S.S. Enterprise
he couldn't have his doctor, his dentist, his favorite carpenter, or his dog
groomer at his side if he wanted to, security clearance or not."
-----
> One of the earliest Duck stories that I enjoyed was from a Greek issue of
> MIKY MAOYS from about 1966. It was probably translated from an Italian
> story. It was a loose adaptation of the "Iliad," and although I don't
> remember much at all about the story-line ( I was about seven or eight) I
> recall that in the story, Scrooge, who had a similarity to Homer's Menelaus,
> recruits Donald (Achilles?) and launches a mission to recover a chess-set
> (or chess-board) of some special significance that had been pilfered by
> Gladstone Gander (Paris of Troy?). That's really all I remember!
In the Greek edition it was a checker-board, and the special thing about
it was that if you put a grain of rice on the first square, two grains
would appear on the second, four on the third, etc. The story ends with
Donald breaking the checker-board on Gladstone's head into 64 pieces,
and Scrooge making them try all possible combinations of putting the
squares together again, until they would hit the one combination that
would turn the checker-board into a magic one.
Why checker-board instead of a chess-board, given that this is clearly
based on the legend about the reward that the inventor of chess is
supposed to have asked for his invention? Well, the story relies on
Scrooge tricking Donald into believing that the Beagles had kidnapped
Daisy rather than having stolen his checker-board. In Greek, the word
"ntama" (pronounced "dama") can mean either the game of checkers, the
queen of hearts, or a dance partner. This is *very* weak word-play, but
it was probably the best the translator could do. I wonder what was in
the original script, and whether the word-play is much better in Italian.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Nobody would have the gumption to tell the captain of the U.S.S. Enterprise
he couldn't have his doctor, his dentist, his favorite carpenter, or his dog
groomer at his side if he wanted to, security clearance or not."
-----
Ola Martinsson
Barks Ludwig Von Drake story
Message 423 -
2001-06-28 at 17:44:37
"LKumpinsky" asked which issue of Uncle Scrooge has the gag in which
Barks used Ludwig Von Drake. That question is answered on the DCML
page on Ludwig,
<http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/ludwig.html>,
and the answer is US 54.
Barks used Ludwig Von Drake. That question is answered on the DCML
page on Ludwig,
<http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/ludwig.html>,
and the answer is US 54.
Oyvind J. Karstad
Scrooge's trunk
Message 424 -
2001-06-28 at 20:28:43
Don Rosa wrote, 28 May 2001:
>The pick you see in "Lo$" part 12 was in $crooge's steamer trunk, the one I
>use as his "memory trunk" in the new "Lo$" chapters. He did not have that
>trunk with him in the Yukon -- did you see it on his sled in "Last Sled to
>Dawson" when he had *all* of his Klondike possessions with him? No -- he
>must have left that big trunk somewhere else when he rushed to the Yukon [...]
In the last panel of page 9, in "Hearts of Yukon" you can see this
same trunk, with stickers from Perth and Cape Town, in Scrooge's hut.
I wonder how it got there... :-)
Oyvind
>The pick you see in "Lo$" part 12 was in $crooge's steamer trunk, the one I
>use as his "memory trunk" in the new "Lo$" chapters. He did not have that
>trunk with him in the Yukon -- did you see it on his sled in "Last Sled to
>Dawson" when he had *all* of his Klondike possessions with him? No -- he
>must have left that big trunk somewhere else when he rushed to the Yukon [...]
In the last panel of page 9, in "Hearts of Yukon" you can see this
same trunk, with stickers from Perth and Cape Town, in Scrooge's hut.
I wonder how it got there... :-)
Oyvind
Shaun Craill
Dons Birthday
Message 425 -
2001-06-28 at 23:53:04
Due to a quirk of the international date line it already is June 29th here,
so happy Birthday Don! I should be able to remember it in future because it
is the same birthday as my mothers.
I remember a European contributor saying that it was good luck to send the
first greeting of the New Year, something about being "first through the
door" or something like that. In order to be the first through the door
where I am you'd need to send your message about midday (depending on where
you are in Europe) on December 31st.
Best regards
Shaun Craill
Development Engineer
Methven Limited
Tel: +64 (0) 9 829 0429 fax +64 (0) 9 829 0439
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and a laxative on the same night. This is NOT the view of the company, but
it sounds like good advice to me.
so happy Birthday Don! I should be able to remember it in future because it
is the same birthday as my mothers.
I remember a European contributor saying that it was good luck to send the
first greeting of the New Year, something about being "first through the
door" or something like that. In order to be the first through the door
where I am you'd need to send your message about midday (depending on where
you are in Europe) on December 31st.
Best regards
Shaun Craill
Development Engineer
Methven Limited
Tel: +64 (0) 9 829 0429 fax +64 (0) 9 829 0439
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may not be disclosed or used by any other than the addressee, nor may it be
copied in any way.
If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender as soon as
possible and delete any copies of this message. NEVER take a sleeping pill
and a laxative on the same night. This is NOT the view of the company, but
it sounds like good advice to me.
Arttu Salminen
Don Rosa 50 years!
Message 426 -
2001-06-29 at 10:44:03
I the honour of Don Rosa's 50th birthday, I have some new stuff in my
site, "Don Rosa - The New Duckmaster": a story (not published in
Finland), a new section, a picture (not published outside Finland, at
at least as far as I know), and a guestbook. More about them in the
News-section. I hope you enjoy them!
And here are the links to my site:
Main:
http://www.angelfire.com/comics/donrosa/ or
http://go.to/donrosa
English:
http://www.angelfire.com/comics/donrosa/english.html
Finnish:
http://www.angelfire.com/comics/donrosa/suomi.html
This message is good to end to these words: Congratulations, Don!!!
Arttu Salminen
arttu4 at hotmail.com
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site, "Don Rosa - The New Duckmaster": a story (not published in
Finland), a new section, a picture (not published outside Finland, at
at least as far as I know), and a guestbook. More about them in the
News-section. I hope you enjoy them!
And here are the links to my site:
Main:
http://www.angelfire.com/comics/donrosa/ or
http://go.to/donrosa
English:
http://www.angelfire.com/comics/donrosa/english.html
Finnish:
http://www.angelfire.com/comics/donrosa/suomi.html
This message is good to end to these words: Congratulations, Don!!!
Arttu Salminen
arttu4 at hotmail.com
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Daniel.V.Haugsbø
To Don:
Message 427 -
2001-06-29 at 12:47:32
Happy Birthday!
Best Wishes from Daniel,Norway
=====
Hilsen/Yours
Daniel Vasset Haugsb?
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and DUCKhunt Mailinglist.
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Best Wishes from Daniel,Norway
=====
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Daniel Vasset Haugsb?
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and DUCKhunt Mailinglist.
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Jussi Mantere
To Don:
Message 428 -
2001-06-29 at 13:13:18
> Happy Birthday!
Yep, happy birthday from me, too.
(It's my birthday, too :-)
-jussi
--
allthatyoureasonallthatyoucareallthatyousen
seallthatyouschemeTKYATKallyoudressupandall
thatyouhttp://www.iki.fi/obsseeallyoucreate
all0503519873thatyoucantleavebehind.
Yep, happy birthday from me, too.
(It's my birthday, too :-)
-jussi
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seallthatyouschemeTKYATKallyoudressupandall
thatyouhttp://www.iki.fi/obsseeallyoucreate
all0503519873thatyoucantleavebehind.
Anders Christian Sivebaek
#591 - Birthday
Message 429 -
2001-06-29 at 13:36:10
Hi friends, and have a good day on this the 50th birthday of a
cartoonist whose comics I love.
OLIVIER
> http://ob7.free.fr/mouse_ducks/events/dr50.htm
Looks nice, and I went completely amock over the last page of your
little tribute comic. It's
a great image! You're good at cut and pasting! :-)
Now, it's of to Holland for me in some hours - seeya!
AC
cartoonist whose comics I love.
OLIVIER
> http://ob7.free.fr/mouse_ducks/events/dr50.htm
Looks nice, and I went completely amock over the last page of your
little tribute comic. It's
a great image! You're good at cut and pasting! :-)
Now, it's of to Holland for me in some hours - seeya!
AC
Luca Boschi
Buon Birthday, Don!!!
Message 430 -
2001-06-29 at 14:41:39
Hello,
greetings ta ya!
Or, if you prefear, Good Compleanno!
Luca
greetings ta ya!
Or, if you prefear, Good Compleanno!
Luca
Kriton Kyrimis
DCML digest, Vol 1 #592 - 7 msgs
Message 431 -
2001-06-29 at 14:46:44
SHAUN:
> I remember a European contributor saying that it was good luck to send the
> first greeting of the New Year, something about being "first through the
> door" or something like that.
Gee, could that have been me, talking about the Greek "podariko"?
--
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Did it hurt?"
"Did what hurt... Oh, yes, it was agony!"
-----
> I remember a European contributor saying that it was good luck to send the
> first greeting of the New Year, something about being "first through the
> door" or something like that.
Gee, could that have been me, talking about the Greek "podariko"?
--
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Did it hurt?"
"Did what hurt... Oh, yes, it was agony!"
-----
Ted Johansson
Don Rosa 50 years!
Message 432 -
2001-06-29 at 15:20:23
Happy 50th Birthday, Don!
To honor you on your big day I have made a drawing that you hopefully
already have received! The drawing can also be found at:
http://www.nafsk.se/pics/rosa50c.gif
Best regards
Ted Johansson, Sweden
donted at hotmail.com
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To honor you on your big day I have made a drawing that you hopefully
already have received! The drawing can also be found at:
http://www.nafsk.se/pics/rosa50c.gif
Best regards
Ted Johansson, Sweden
donted at hotmail.com
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Ted Johansson
Don Rosa 50 years!
Message 433 -
2001-06-29 at 15:31:28
Happy 50th Birthday, Don!
To honor you on your big day I have made a drawing that you hopefully
already have received! The drawing can also be found at:
http://www.nafsk.se/pics/rosa50c.gif
Best regards
Ted Johansson, Sweden
donted at hotmail.com
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To honor you on your big day I have made a drawing that you hopefully
already have received! The drawing can also be found at:
http://www.nafsk.se/pics/rosa50c.gif
Best regards
Ted Johansson, Sweden
donted at hotmail.com
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Gianfranco Goria
Happy Birthday Don form Italy!
Message 434 -
2001-06-29 at 15:38:07
Happy birthday Don from the Italian cartoonists society Anonima Fumetti (do
you remember Lucca? www.fumetti.org/afnews)!
Gianfranco Goria
you remember Lucca? www.fumetti.org/afnews)!
Gianfranco Goria
Luca Faccioli
Lots of work again to do.
Message 435 -
2001-06-29 at 16:29:20
Happy birthday to Don for his first 50 years!
And remember that Barks worked until 99 so ... we all wait (at least!) 49 years of very good work with Ducks again !!!!!
Congratulation, Don.
Luca Faccioli
Fan, Collector and Scriptwriter
40138 Bologna
Italy.
And remember that Barks worked until 99 so ... we all wait (at least!) 49 years of very good work with Ducks again !!!!!
Congratulation, Don.
Luca Faccioli
Fan, Collector and Scriptwriter
40138 Bologna
Italy.