ERIC CHUN, 03-09-2003:
> John Nichols (Bear Mountain Enterprises) is planning to print a
> new issue of "The Barks Collector". (Message attached below.)
Thanks for forwarding!
> COST AND FORMAT: The Barks Collector 43 will cost $10 and shipping
> (probably $3). We will do either 100 or 150 copies, with each copy
> numbered. This will be the entire run, and the issue will never be
> reprinted. We are not selling to stores. [...]
> LETTERS COLUMN: Send your letter for inclusion in our Letters
> Column. [...]
> SOLICITATION FOR ARTICLES- You may never see your name in lights,
> but you can certainly see it in print. How? Just send your Duckie
> article for inclusion in TBC 43- Original articles only please.
> TBC 43 will be all new material, with no reprints from past issues.
How many pages will the issue contain?
Will it only contain letters and (not-yet-written?) articles, or will
there also be (lots of) unique art?
I think $10/$13 for a fanzine is quite a lot of money. I may be wrong,
though. At least, I would like to have more information about what I
will get, before requesting a copy. I don't care if the issue is
numbered. Such numbering only suggests I'll be paying more than needed,
just because someone put a number on it.
The message asks for thoughts on the question "Will Barks collecting
survive us?" I think it's going to be pretty hard if even the fanzines
try to keep themselves within "limited editions". And why would they?
Just my two cents. And again, I might be wrong.
--- Dani?l
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Daniel Van Eijmeren
The Barks Collector 43
Message 106 -
2003-09-08 at 10:26:37
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Is Gladstone no Scrooge heir?
Message 107 -
2003-09-08 at 10:35:19
On 4 September 2003, I wrote about The Doom Diamond (US 70):
> This seems to mean that Gladstone is not considered a heir of
> Scrooge, at least not inherently.
Of course, I meant according to this particular story. I'm surprised
no one jumped on me. I would have deserved it.
There's at least one Barks story in which Gladstone clearly is suggested
as Scrooge heir. I'm not going to search the storycode. I feel like
talking to myself in public, lately. (Where is everyone?)
--- Dani?l
> This seems to mean that Gladstone is not considered a heir of
> Scrooge, at least not inherently.
Of course, I meant according to this particular story. I'm surprised
no one jumped on me. I would have deserved it.
There's at least one Barks story in which Gladstone clearly is suggested
as Scrooge heir. I'm not going to search the storycode. I feel like
talking to myself in public, lately. (Where is everyone?)
--- Dani?l
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Beagle Boys Inc.
Message 108 -
2003-09-08 at 11:03:32
OLIVIER to me, 04-09-2003:
> [Beagle Boys] I don't remember noticing the name change (dropping/adding
> the "Inc"). I like the idea of thieves registering as a legit business
> company, it's quite funny.
And it has a satirical link to *reality*. Maybe this is one of Barks's
many political-sounding jokes?
> ["The Status Seeker", US 41] Even though it's for a the sake of the
> status gags, this suggests the Beagle Boys are not petty thieves but
> are recognized as "tops" (p 6 panel 7).
> This may seem in contradiction with the fact we always see them fail.
> Actually, they do succeed in robbing Scrooge several times, in quiet
> ingenious ways; it's just that the ducks manage to get the money back.
Egmont's Beagle Boys series tends to show them as failures. I think this
can be funny, but only as long as these adventures keep in balance with
stories that show the Beagle Boys as dangerous crooks. If Beagle Boys
become failures by default, then stories will not be exciting anymore.
Now that I mention exciting stories, maybe Beagle Boys are used too often,
as part of Scrooge's (yawn!) often-used standard set of enemies? I think
there should be a lot more crooks, instead of just a few familiar ones.
And where has the pig villain gone to?
Barks created new villians throughout his comic book career, but since
his retirement the set of villians has more or less petrified. Why?
--- Dani?l
> [Beagle Boys] I don't remember noticing the name change (dropping/adding
> the "Inc"). I like the idea of thieves registering as a legit business
> company, it's quite funny.
And it has a satirical link to *reality*. Maybe this is one of Barks's
many political-sounding jokes?
> ["The Status Seeker", US 41] Even though it's for a the sake of the
> status gags, this suggests the Beagle Boys are not petty thieves but
> are recognized as "tops" (p 6 panel 7).
> This may seem in contradiction with the fact we always see them fail.
> Actually, they do succeed in robbing Scrooge several times, in quiet
> ingenious ways; it's just that the ducks manage to get the money back.
Egmont's Beagle Boys series tends to show them as failures. I think this
can be funny, but only as long as these adventures keep in balance with
stories that show the Beagle Boys as dangerous crooks. If Beagle Boys
become failures by default, then stories will not be exciting anymore.
Now that I mention exciting stories, maybe Beagle Boys are used too often,
as part of Scrooge's (yawn!) often-used standard set of enemies? I think
there should be a lot more crooks, instead of just a few familiar ones.
And where has the pig villain gone to?
Barks created new villians throughout his comic book career, but since
his retirement the set of villians has more or less petrified. Why?
--- Dani?l
Timo Ronkainen
Only twenty minutes left to go...
Message 109 -
2003-09-08 at 13:56:46
Oh, I have to act quickly... :)
>"It must be delivered within TWENTY MINUTES, or something DREADFUL
>will happen!"
Maybe this one is the story, where nephews do errands delivering packages.
This is package that Donald takes and it's full of meat for pet lion. Is it
the same story?
Timo
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>"It must be delivered within TWENTY MINUTES, or something DREADFUL
>will happen!"
Maybe this one is the story, where nephews do errands delivering packages.
This is package that Donald takes and it's full of meat for pet lion. Is it
the same story?
Timo
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Daniel Van Eijmeren
Only twenty minutes left to go...
Message 110 -
2003-09-08 at 13:59:43
What a silence! Will this very message also remain in read-only mode?
Well, maybe I can change that by *threatening* you to write the right
answer to this new Barks quote quiz, with its conditions included:
"It must be delivered within TWENTY MINUTES, or something DREADFUL
will happen!"
--- Angelboy
00:19.59, 00:19.58, 00:19.57...
Well, maybe I can change that by *threatening* you to write the right
answer to this new Barks quote quiz, with its conditions included:
"It must be delivered within TWENTY MINUTES, or something DREADFUL
will happen!"
--- Angelboy
00:19.59, 00:19.58, 00:19.57...
L. Schulte
Barks, Mao, and the Cold War
Message 111 -
2003-09-08 at 14:34:37
Sigvald was asked not to let political comments on the DCML, and in general
I would agree. The statement in question that many Left-wing intellectuals
"went soft" on Mao is correct, even though Mao had a huge number of people
executed (estimates vary, but 30-50 million is a good figure). Many on the
left looked the other way, as they had done with Stalin. (Remember that
both Hitler and Stalin started WW II and were allies.) This is parallel
with the softness today towards Castro, whose body count is not as high
Certainly Barks was writing and drawing during the Cold War against
Communism, and occasionally with things like Brutopia (= brutal utopia, an
ironic comment on Stalin's and Mao's brutal 'workers' paradises') his love
of freedom and his/Scrooge's support of basic hard-working capitalism are
obvious. Certainly most of the stories are apolitical, but now and then
his anti-Communism comes through.
I would agree. The statement in question that many Left-wing intellectuals
"went soft" on Mao is correct, even though Mao had a huge number of people
executed (estimates vary, but 30-50 million is a good figure). Many on the
left looked the other way, as they had done with Stalin. (Remember that
both Hitler and Stalin started WW II and were allies.) This is parallel
with the softness today towards Castro, whose body count is not as high
Certainly Barks was writing and drawing during the Cold War against
Communism, and occasionally with things like Brutopia (= brutal utopia, an
ironic comment on Stalin's and Mao's brutal 'workers' paradises') his love
of freedom and his/Scrooge's support of basic hard-working capitalism are
obvious. Certainly most of the stories are apolitical, but now and then
his anti-Communism comes through.
H.W.Fluks
FYI: Rosa in Holland
Message 112 -
2003-09-08 at 14:38:06
Don Rosa's "Forget It!" (D 2001-095) will be published in the Netherlands in DONALD DUCK EXTRA #13, 2003.
(This was the last Rosa story that the Dutch hadn't printed yet - very recent stories excluded. Don: please keep making new ones! 8-)
This year's "Extra Donald Duck Extra 7 1/2" (with a.o. Rosa's D 2002-033, "The Dream Of A Lifetime" and Rota's D 2001-135) sold very well. Next year, they plan to have *two* "Extra DD Extras".
--Harry.
(This was the last Rosa story that the Dutch hadn't printed yet - very recent stories excluded. Don: please keep making new ones! 8-)
This year's "Extra Donald Duck Extra 7 1/2" (with a.o. Rosa's D 2002-033, "The Dream Of A Lifetime" and Rota's D 2001-135) sold very well. Next year, they plan to have *two* "Extra DD Extras".
--Harry.
Gerd Syllwasschy
Only twenty minutes left to go...
Message 113 -
2003-09-08 at 14:38:35
> "It must be delivered within TWENTY MINUTES, or something DREADFUL
> will happen!"
>
> --- Angelboy
BTW, I wonder if "AngelFACE" is a nickname or just a slip of the pen.
Gerd
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>
> --- Angelboy
BTW, I wonder if "AngelFACE" is a nickname or just a slip of the pen.
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Timo Ronkainen
Only twenty minutes left to go...
Message 114 -
2003-09-08 at 14:38:35
>Yes, it is. (Same for the above quotes.) Code is WDC 203.
Well, i recognized it, even though I haven't read it in English original
version. Barks' language is dee-licious!
>The road to succes is a speedway to the go-getter, but a quagmire to
>the laggard!
>Let no grass grow on your sidewalks, nor moss between your ears!
Timo
>"Hey! Somethin's makin' SENSE!"
>(Which Barks story? Hint: "Scram! Do you think you WORK here?")
Uhmmm.... This one is harder...
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Well, i recognized it, even though I haven't read it in English original
version. Barks' language is dee-licious!
>The road to succes is a speedway to the go-getter, but a quagmire to
>the laggard!
>Let no grass grow on your sidewalks, nor moss between your ears!
Timo
>"Hey! Somethin's makin' SENSE!"
>(Which Barks story? Hint: "Scram! Do you think you WORK here?")
Uhmmm.... This one is harder...
^^''*''^^
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20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
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Daniel Van Eijmeren
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Message 115 -
2003-09-08 at 14:41:36
TIMO RONKAINEN to me, 08-09-2003:
> Oh, I have to act quickly... :)
I'll give you a few worthy maxims to remember!...
The road to succes is a speedway to the go-getter, but a quagmire to
the laggard!
Let no grass grow on your sidewalks, nor moss between your ears!
To the brave belong the fair, and to the brainy, the raise in wages!
Be smart! Be active! Be in there pitching!
>> "It must be delivered within TWENTY MINUTES, or something DREADFUL
>> will happen!"
> Maybe this one is the story, where nephews do errands delivering
> packages. This is package that Donald takes and it's full of meat
> for pet lion. Is it the same story?
Yes, it is. (Same for the above quotes.) Code is WDC 203.
It's one of all-time my favourites! When I read the story for the first
time, I was anxious about terrible dreadful danger might be waiting for
the Ducks. People who don't know what dreadful might happen, will have
to look up the story themselves. Within twenty minutes! :-)
--- Dani?l
"Hey! Somethin's makin' SENSE!"
(Which Barks story? Hint: "Scram! Do you think you WORK here?")
> Oh, I have to act quickly... :)
I'll give you a few worthy maxims to remember!...
The road to succes is a speedway to the go-getter, but a quagmire to
the laggard!
Let no grass grow on your sidewalks, nor moss between your ears!
To the brave belong the fair, and to the brainy, the raise in wages!
Be smart! Be active! Be in there pitching!
>> "It must be delivered within TWENTY MINUTES, or something DREADFUL
>> will happen!"
> Maybe this one is the story, where nephews do errands delivering
> packages. This is package that Donald takes and it's full of meat
> for pet lion. Is it the same story?
Yes, it is. (Same for the above quotes.) Code is WDC 203.
It's one of all-time my favourites! When I read the story for the first
time, I was anxious about terrible dreadful danger might be waiting for
the Ducks. People who don't know what dreadful might happen, will have
to look up the story themselves. Within twenty minutes! :-)
--- Dani?l
"Hey! Somethin's makin' SENSE!"
(Which Barks story? Hint: "Scram! Do you think you WORK here?")
SRoweCanoe
Barks, Mao, and the Cold War
Message 116 -
2003-09-08 at 14:41:53
In a message dated 9/8/2003 7:37:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
lschulte at sfstoledo.org writes:
Sigvald was asked not to let political comments on the DCML, and in general
I would agree. The statement in question that many Left-wing intellectuals
"went soft" on Mao is correct
And many right - wing folks in the USA and Europe were soft on Hitler and
Mussolini despite their not too good records too. Barks wrote stories
dealing with WW2 too....
Therefore I fail to see your point at all...
Steven Rowe
lschulte at sfstoledo.org writes:
Sigvald was asked not to let political comments on the DCML, and in general
I would agree. The statement in question that many Left-wing intellectuals
"went soft" on Mao is correct
And many right - wing folks in the USA and Europe were soft on Hitler and
Mussolini despite their not too good records too. Barks wrote stories
dealing with WW2 too....
Therefore I fail to see your point at all...
Steven Rowe
Petri Kanninen
Lost samples
Message 117 -
2003-09-08 at 14:45:45
FERNANDO:
>Long time ago someone posted here images from the Egmont-manga version of
>some Barks' stories! Someone has still this samples?
>I'd like to see it again! So, if somenone have it...please, send to my
>e-mail! :-)
I posted (two years ago!) few pictures of the manga version of Barks'
story where DD fools U$ to believe that fish are new currency. And being
lazy, I haven't still removed them from the net. You can look at them at
http://www.hut.fi/~pkannine/manga1.jpg
http://www.hut.fi/~pkannine/manga2.jpg
http://www.hut.fi/~pkannine/manga3.jpg
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hour ago! Run! Run!" -Calvin
>Long time ago someone posted here images from the Egmont-manga version of
>some Barks' stories! Someone has still this samples?
>I'd like to see it again! So, if somenone have it...please, send to my
>e-mail! :-)
I posted (two years ago!) few pictures of the manga version of Barks'
story where DD fools U$ to believe that fish are new currency. And being
lazy, I haven't still removed them from the net. You can look at them at
http://www.hut.fi/~pkannine/manga1.jpg
http://www.hut.fi/~pkannine/manga2.jpg
http://www.hut.fi/~pkannine/manga3.jpg
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http://www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
"AAUGH! It's a half-hour later than it was half an
hour ago! Run! Run!" -Calvin
Timo Ronkainen
Original secondary character's names in I TL 1308-B???
Message 118 -
2003-09-08 at 14:57:13
Hi all!
I just read a story (I TL 1308-B) published in Finnish Roope-set? mag
9/1985: Zio Paperone e il fumetto perfetto. Rockerduck has a comic book
publishing company and he has all the best cartoonists there are. They are
working in slave labor conditions in a basement. He pushes his artists and
writers to the extreme limit and therefore gets hundreds of pages of comics
made. Nice story about "industrial" way of making comics. Perhaps Giorgio
Pezzin wrote this story to present his feelings about working for Disney?
:-) Or perhaps the other way around? When scrooge tells a true story from
his youth, a story that comes straight from his heart, to be made as comic
book that book sells much better than Rockerduck's artificial factory tales.
In Finnish version these comics artists are translated as real Finnish
cartoonists (Tarmo Koisvisto etc.), what about in the original Italian
version? Are they perhaps real Italian Disney authors? Scarpa working for
Rockerduck? Carpi...? etc?
How are they translated in other langauages?
Timo
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YO-kyl? 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
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I just read a story (I TL 1308-B) published in Finnish Roope-set? mag
9/1985: Zio Paperone e il fumetto perfetto. Rockerduck has a comic book
publishing company and he has all the best cartoonists there are. They are
working in slave labor conditions in a basement. He pushes his artists and
writers to the extreme limit and therefore gets hundreds of pages of comics
made. Nice story about "industrial" way of making comics. Perhaps Giorgio
Pezzin wrote this story to present his feelings about working for Disney?
:-) Or perhaps the other way around? When scrooge tells a true story from
his youth, a story that comes straight from his heart, to be made as comic
book that book sells much better than Rockerduck's artificial factory tales.
In Finnish version these comics artists are translated as real Finnish
cartoonists (Tarmo Koisvisto etc.), what about in the original Italian
version? Are they perhaps real Italian Disney authors? Scarpa working for
Rockerduck? Carpi...? etc?
How are they translated in other langauages?
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
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20540 Turku ------------------- -
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Barks, Mao, and the Cold War
Message 119 -
2003-09-08 at 15:00:25
Imagine a nightmare where the United Nations say nothing about the Hitler's
blitzkrieg and the occupatioon of other countries to take the territory and
economy of his people, and you have the world of today where a monster like
Bush haven't a decent Captain America to slap his face.
Castro have capital punishment, that's bad. But capital punishment is not
strange in USA and in the state of the so called president ...
Indeed I think he's a fan of the hot seat, he isn't? I think that the world
is very soft with Bush...
Just another statement on the topic
FABIO
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
> The statement in question that many Left-wing intellectuals
> "went soft" on Mao is correct, even though Mao had a huge number of
people
> executed (estimates vary, but 30-50 million is a good figure). Many on
the
> left looked the other way, as they had done with Stalin. (Remember that
> both Hitler and Stalin started WW II and were allies.) This is parallel
> with the softness today towards Castro, whose body count is not as high
blitzkrieg and the occupatioon of other countries to take the territory and
economy of his people, and you have the world of today where a monster like
Bush haven't a decent Captain America to slap his face.
Castro have capital punishment, that's bad. But capital punishment is not
strange in USA and in the state of the so called president ...
Indeed I think he's a fan of the hot seat, he isn't? I think that the world
is very soft with Bush...
Just another statement on the topic
FABIO
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
> The statement in question that many Left-wing intellectuals
> "went soft" on Mao is correct, even though Mao had a huge number of
people
> executed (estimates vary, but 30-50 million is a good figure). Many on
the
> left looked the other way, as they had done with Stalin. (Remember that
> both Hitler and Stalin started WW II and were allies.) This is parallel
> with the softness today towards Castro, whose body count is not as high
Kriton Kyrimis
Brutopia
Message 120 -
2003-09-08 at 15:00:33
L. SCHULTE wrote:
> Brutopia (= brutal utopia,
For some reason, I always thought that "Brutopia" was a combination of
"Brutus" and "utopia".
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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> Brutopia (= brutal utopia,
For some reason, I always thought that "Brutopia" was a combination of
"Brutus" and "utopia".
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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