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Lis:

> > Taliaferro fans: Look out for #38 of the scandinavian weekly.
> > You'll find a *really rare* Taliaferro gem in that issue.
>
> I read this story [I/CGW X 1-01] yesterday and I really enjoyed it. I'd
> like to know the history behind this story. Why this is "really rare"? Is
> this the first publication in Europe?
>
> BTW, What is the INDUCKS story-code for this story?

The Inducks code is W CGW X 1-01 (I made up that code myself 8-). If the printed code is I/CGW X 1-01, then that's clearly taken from Inducks, but with a typo.

The story was published in Italy (1987 and 2003) and Germany (2002). It's "really rare" in the sense that it's made for a giveaway comic. It has never been reprinted in the USA. The 2003 reprint in Italy and the German reprint are in comics that like to publish rare stories (ZIO PAPERONE and DD SONDERHEFT).

Another rare thing is that Taliaferro made very few stories for the comic books directly.

--Harry.

Timo asked:

> Does anyone know how many of these huge Best Comics
> volumes were made in English? are they all indexed?

We have some information about Best Comics in Inducks. Six large hard-bound books, and six smaller books, also called "Best Comics". Both series are from Abbeville.

The large books' ISBN numbers:

W BCS 1 Donald Duck 1978 [ISBN 0-89659-006-2]
W BCS 2 Mickey Mouse 1978 [ISBN 0-89659-005-4]
W BCS 3 Animated Features and Silly Symphonies 1980 [ISBN 0-89659-120-4]
W BCS 4 Goofy [unknown]
W BCS 5 Uncle Scrooge [unknown]
W BCS 6 Donald and His Nephews / Huey, Dewey and Louie [unknown]

The smaller books are all from 1980:

W BC 1 MM meets Robin Hood [ISBN 0-89659-176-X]
W BC 2 DD and the Golden Helmet [ISBN 0-89659-178-6]
W BC 3 MM joins the Foreign Legion [ISBN 0-89659-175-1]
W BC 4 DD and the Magic Hourglass [ISBN 0-89659-177-8]
W BC 5 GO on Cave Man Island [ISBN 0-89659-179-4]
W BC 6 US and the Secret of the Old Castle [ISBN 0-89659-179-4]

Are reported:

> "Goofy - Best Comics" - 1979
> "Uncle Scrooge - Best Comics" - 1979

Thanks, I'll add the missing years to Inducks. And renumber the albums accordingly...

(I'll also add David's information about the various versions of the albums.)

--Harry.

> So there are scripts made?
>
Yes. No full storylines as far as I know,
but concepts/id?as and introduction strips as well as individual
gags exists.

/Joakim.

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CARMENG, 10-09-2003:

You wrote... nothing. If there was a message in the body of your email,
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--- Dani?l

GEO, 09-09-2003:

> http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/07/movies/moviesspecial/07CANE.html
> September 7, 2003
> The Lost Cartoon by Disney and Dal?, Fellow Surrealists
> By JOHN CANEMAKER

Interesting! The descriptions sound amazing!

> Still, economic worries undoubtedly contributed to Disney's caution,
> Roy Disney said: "In those postwar years, `Destino' was not what you
> expected from Disney." (Of course, it isn't what we expect from Disney
> now, either.) "Walt wanted to be an artist," Mr. Disney continued.
> "But he got knocked down by `Fantasia,' and the war was brutal. He
> had to go and make money."

I think there's an obvious difference between Disney's first three
movies ("Snow White", "Pinocchio", and "Fantasia"), and the later movies.
The first three movies look like artistic masterpieces, while the later
movies mostly look like "safe" family amusement. (IMO)

Has anyone asked Roy E. Disney if there's a change that "Morgan's Ghost"
will ever be finished? Lately, Disney seems to be focussed on classic
Disney stuff, so this could be the movie to go for. "Morgan's Ghost"
would star Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, and Goofy. If the movie becomes a
succes (and I'm willing to bet on that), it will be a great promotion of
these characters.

I think "Morgan's Ghost" is an important "missing link" within the Disney
catalogue.

For the people searching for a comic book connection: "Morgan's Ghost"
was rewritten as comic book story, drawn by Carl Barks and Jack Hannah,
titled "Donald Duck finds Pirate Gold" (OS 9).

--- Dani?l

Dani?l wrote:

> I think there's an obvious difference between Disney's first three
> movies ("Snow White", "Pinocchio", and "Fantasia"), and the later
movies.
> The first three movies look like artistic masterpieces, while
> the later movies mostly look like "safe" family amusement. (IMO)

This is exactly how I feel about the Disney movies but could not name it
until I read your message.

Recently a German federal institute voted a list of 35 international
movies which they recommended to be watched and discussed in school.
There was one Disney movie on this list: The Jungle Book.

Of course the Jungle Book is a wonderful and entertaining movie. But it
is
also very commercial. And predictable. And a little bit silly.

"Snow White", "Pinocchio", some episodes from "Fantasia" and "Dumbo" to
some extent on the other hand play in quite another league: They have
more contrast! And they can be quite disturbing, I believe. Beneath the
bright colors, beautiful images and sweet songs there lurks real life:
failure, loneliness and death.

Cord

LARS:

> On the other hand, there is of course the cavewoman Oona, whose name
> is partly an homage to Alley Oop's girlfriend Ooola. But then again,
> Oona was conceived of without any thought of Ooola until the
> character had to be named -- only the name links the two -- so that's
> not really a full-fledged homage, either.

Are you sure about that, or is that where the "partly" comes in? I've
always thought that Oona was named after Stefan Printz-P?hlson's wife
Unn...after all they wrote the first story featuring Oona.

S?ren