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Lars Jensen
At 23:16:45, Sigvald wrote:

> > Sigvald, please don't post these off-topic and
> > potentially inflammatory statements on the
> > DCML. Thank you.
>
> Even though my statement above wasn't meant as anything but additional
> information, I will try to follow your kind request.

At 23:34:10, Sigvald wrote:

> > No, [Mao] was the chairman of the communist party,
> > not the dictator, though his position was more
> > like that of a dictator's.
>
> Very interesting statement indeed, Stefan! Based upon the assumption
> that you are consistent, this mean that you oppose the political
> correct Scandinavian medias which most of the time [...]

It's unfair to single you out, Sigvald, but... What happened between
23:16:45 and 23:34:10?

Lars
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Lars Jensen <lpj at forfatter.dk> wrote:

> It's unfair to single you out, Sigvald, but...
> What happened between 23:16:45 and 23:34:10?

I read Stefan's mail and then wrote a reply to it.

Sigvald
Anthony Vuono
So what's up that is new in the Disney comics universe this fall? Any
further Rosa stories in the works? How is Gemstone doing in America? Any
plans for any special releases in the U.S. or Europe? I was just wondering
since I have been out of touch recently.
Eric Chun
Daniel wrote:
>How many pages will the issue contain?
>Will it only contain letters and (not-yet-written?) articles, or will
>there also be (lots of) unique art?

My guess is that it will be similar to previous issues.
http://www.seriesam.com/barks/bibliousafan.html

I've only had one issue (around 1985 or so?). It
contained text only. No artwork.

Best,

Eric

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Olivier
Hi everyone!

Here's a link to an article on CNN about duck quacks-- do they echo or not?
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/09/08/duck.quack/index.html

However, there's something odd, which they would know about if they (had) read Barks' WDC&S 105 ten-pager (June '49): a duck's quack echoes only if said duck drops a dime in a box.
;)

Olivier
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Petri Kanninen
TIMO:
> No they don't. I agree. There's very little manga in these.
> But they were presented as manga for Japanese audience. I wonder how
> they were selling in Japan..

I have to agree too. I don't get much of a manga-feeling while reading
these. Still I presume the layouts were planned a Japanese person. Inducks
shows that the writer of the story is Kawade, which sounds Japanese enough
for me (although not long ago we learned that one's name doesn't reveal
one's nationality). Since Barks had already written the story, the only
job I can think for Kawade to do is the new layouts. Definately this isn't
a traditional Disney layout. Still it makes me wonder why Egmont didn't
order the art from Japan too as the artist is a "normal" Egmont-artist
Miguel. Then it might have looked a bit more like manga.

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Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
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Shaun Craill
>Yes, but they don't pronunce that "u"... so is /komiks/ hehhee :-)
>By the way... just imagine Stan Sakai drawing disney comics...

>FABIO
> bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar

A couple of years ago my brother gave the Groo crew a series of Duck-Groo
cross over coffee mugs that I had painted up, at the San Diego comic
convention when they were panelists.

Stan's mug had a picture of a well known samurai rabbit guarding the money
bin, and one Beagle Boy saying to the other "Go on, it's just a wee bunny!"

Someone noticed I had put a note on the bottom of the mugs, and poor old
Sergio brought the house down when he announced that his said "Other way up
stupido"
Rich Bellacera
I don't know if this rates as anything tending toward an official
endorsement, but it would appear that at least the Disney "Marketing"
department considers Moby Duck to be a relative of Donald's.

See:
http://disney.store.go.com/DSSectionPage.process?Merchant_Id=2&Section_id=14418&Product_Id=133747&Searchstr=Scrooge&Page=1

If that doesn't work try
http://disney.store.go.com/
and search for "Family Tree" or "Donald"

Thanks,

Rich Bellacera
Mike Devery
>From: "Daniel van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl>
>Subject: Treasure of Marco - original dialogue
> >> I've always wondered if my copy of The Treasure of Marco Polo
> > I do not know which copy you have, but the story has been blacklisted

very interesting! Is there a list somewhere of similarly banned
stories? For the record, this story was reprinted in original format in
Australia in 1974, so there were no apparent problems from Disney at that
stage.

Mike.
Daniel Van Eijmeren
OLIVIER, 09-09-2003:

> Here's a link to an article on CNN about duck quacks-- do they echo or not?
> http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/09/08/duck.quack/index.html
> However, there's something odd, which they would know about if they (had)
> read Barks' WDC&S 105 ten-pager (June '49): a duck's quack echoes only if
> said duck drops a dime in a box. ;)

I've pasted the text at the end of this email, because I'm curious if this
urban myth may have *inspired* Barks to write the echoes practice story
(WDC 105).

Some time ago someone mentioned that the echoes practice story is in error
because it doesn't contain any real echoes for Donald. This urban myth would
be a perfect explanation for those missing echoes. And even though the myth
has been debunked, the article still mentions that it remains difficult to
notice a duck's echo.

Maybe there's a chance that Barks has heard about this, too, and then got
inspired in thinking of his own way to produce duck echoes?

Please let me know if this thought makes sense.

- - - - - - -

Science 'quacks' urban duck myth

<Picture: Daisy takes to the microphone>

LONDON, England -- A British study has debunked an urban myth -- that a
duck's quack does not echo.

A farmyard duck called Daisy was at the center of the acoustic research,
carried out at the University of Salford in Greater Manchester, north-west
England.

Acoustic expert Trevor Cox tested the popular myth -- often the subject of
television quiz shows and Internet chat rooms -- by first recording Daisy's
quack in a special chamber with jagged surfaces that produces no sound
reflections.

She was then moved to a reverberation chamber with cathedral-like acoustics
before the data was used to create simulations of Daisy performing at the
Royal Albert Hall and quacking as she flew past a cliff face.

The tests revealed that a duck's quack definitely echoes, just like any
other sound, but perhaps not as noticeably.

"A duck quacks rather quietly, so the sound coming back is at a low level
and might not be heard," Cox told the UK Press Association.

"Also, a quack is a fading sound. It has a gradual decay, so it's hard to
tell the difference between the actual quack and the echo. That's
especially true if you haven't previously heard what it sounds like with no
reflections."

He said ducks were normally found in open-water areas and didn't usually
congregate around echoey cliffs, which may have fueled the theory that
their quacks don't produce an echo.

"You get a bit of reverberation -- it's distinctly echoey," Cox said.

The research was being discussed Monday at the British Association Festival
of Science at the University of Salford.

- - - - - - -

Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/09/08/duck.quack/index.html

- - - - - - -

--- Dani?l
Daniel Van Eijmeren
MIKE DEVERY to me, 09-09-2003:

> [Treasure of Marco] very interesting! Is there a list somewhere of
> similarly banned stories? For the record, this story was reprinted
> in original format in Australia in 1974, so there were no apparent
> problems from Disney at that stage.

I once had a list of changes in The Carl Barks Library, which gave some
indication for the Barks stories. This list has now been integrated in
an unfinished database, so it will take some time before I can generate
a new updated list.

An OLD version can be found at:
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/cbl.html
("A Cold Bargain" has been printed uncensored since then, for example.)

But again, this is only about Barks and the Carl Barks Library. I don't
know if there a list of banned Disney stories available. I believe that
somewhere in the mid-1990s, some attempts were done by fans. But the
results got "banned" themselves, by other fans. The thought was that it
might give Disney a handy list of items that may better be forgotten
forever. (This is all from memory. Any comments are welcome.)

If there's a list of banned stories, I would like to see it, too! Either
in public or in private, depending on the situation I just described.

--- Dani?l

"Hey! Somethin's makin' SENSE!"
Which Barks story?

Hint #1: "Scram! Do you think you WORK here?"
Hint #2: "It looks VALUABLE! If it were only yours -"
Daniel Van Eijmeren
SHAUN CRAIL to FABIO BLANCO, 09-09-2003:

> Someone noticed I had put a note on the bottom of the mugs, and
> poor old Sergio brought the house down when he announced that his
> said "Other way up stupido"

I know a variation of this. A card with a cord hanging on a wall,
with the text: "If there's a fire, please turn over."

People who get curious and look on the overleaf, will read the text:
"Only if there's a fire, sucker!"

--- Dani?l
Timo Ronkainen
Hi all!

I'm trying to collect together bibliography of Gottfredson related articles
and interviews.
There is 1968 interview by Malcolm Willits in Vanguard -fanzine, and then
one in Nemo-magazine from 1984 and Comics Journal #120 from March 1988 by
Arn Saba. Any others? What about articles?
Any help welcome. Thanks!

Timo

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Olaf Solstrand
Quoting Hoy Murphy <hoymurphy at charter.net>:
> Are there any more
> Three C stories in the pipeline?

Since this story came to Europe three and a half years ago, there hasn't been
any other, no...

.from Rosa, that is.

And since Rosa is so open and sharing on his upcoming stories, I think we can
say for sure that any new Caballeros stories from Rosa is not produced yet.

I can recommend Brazilian Carioca stories, though.
Lars Jensen
Rich Bellacera wrote:

> I don't know if this rates as anything tending toward an official
> endorsement, but it would appear that at least the Disney "Marketing"
> department considers Moby Duck to be a relative of Donald's.

Why wouldn't Disney recognize the existence of Moby?! They created
him -- and established him as a cousin of Donald's.

Lars
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