From: "Arie Fachrisal" <cien2 at cbn.net.id>
> the side-talk about Casper the Dead Baby erally gives me the creee, i had
> never thought about it that way to admit.
I meant erally = really and creee = creep.
Keep On Quacking,
Arie Fachrisal
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Topic: 200309
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Arie Fachrisal
DCML Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4
Message 46 -
2003-09-02 at 18:13:28
Olaf Solstrand
Story codes
Message 47 -
2003-09-02 at 20:14:50
I wrote:
> > Recommended reading: D/D 2001-013, D/D 2002-009, D/D 2002-020
> > and D/D 2003-022 :-)
>
Lars asked:
> I know it's a long shot, but... Do you happen to know what the title of
> D/D 2003-022 is? :-)
Uhm... Yes. You made me wonder if I had written a number wrong and this really
was a story written by Lars Jensen. It wasn't - so now I just sit here
wondering why on earth you asked me that question. The title is "Wand vs.
Woodchucks". Written by yours truly. Why do you ask?
Olaf
> > Recommended reading: D/D 2001-013, D/D 2002-009, D/D 2002-020
> > and D/D 2003-022 :-)
>
Lars asked:
> I know it's a long shot, but... Do you happen to know what the title of
> D/D 2003-022 is? :-)
Uhm... Yes. You made me wonder if I had written a number wrong and this really
was a story written by Lars Jensen. It wasn't - so now I just sit here
wondering why on earth you asked me that question. The title is "Wand vs.
Woodchucks". Written by yours truly. Why do you ask?
Olaf
Gerd Syllwasschy
Trick or Treat
Message 48 -
2003-09-02 at 20:23:17
Frank:
> I'm not quite sure, however, about the scene with the goat. The goat is
> not in my copy of the short, although the goat's hair definitely is.
> Moreover, there's also an "unnatural" looking cut right before one of
> the nephews hands Hazel the hairs. So I guess the gag with the goat was
> edited out from my TV sourced version of the film. Maybe somebody else
> can confirm that this gag is in the film, i.e. it wasn't Barks' own idea
> for the comic version?
My DVD version (length 7'56 at 25 fps, ca. 7'10 without credits) does
not contain the goat scene, either.
However, there is one caveat when comparing the comic with the film:
Barks submitted the finished comic in March 1952, whereas the cartoon
was not released until October of the same year. He worked from
photostats of the storyboard drawings, and it is quite likely that some
changes were applied to the animation later.
So, if a scene from the comic does not appear in the movie, this does
not necessarily mean that it was Barks' own idea.
Gerd
> I'm not quite sure, however, about the scene with the goat. The goat is
> not in my copy of the short, although the goat's hair definitely is.
> Moreover, there's also an "unnatural" looking cut right before one of
> the nephews hands Hazel the hairs. So I guess the gag with the goat was
> edited out from my TV sourced version of the film. Maybe somebody else
> can confirm that this gag is in the film, i.e. it wasn't Barks' own idea
> for the comic version?
My DVD version (length 7'56 at 25 fps, ca. 7'10 without credits) does
not contain the goat scene, either.
However, there is one caveat when comparing the comic with the film:
Barks submitted the finished comic in March 1952, whereas the cartoon
was not released until October of the same year. He worked from
photostats of the storyboard drawings, and it is quite likely that some
changes were applied to the animation later.
So, if a scene from the comic does not appear in the movie, this does
not necessarily mean that it was Barks' own idea.
Gerd
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Cutting of "Land Beneath the Ground"
Message 49 -
2003-09-02 at 21:04:29
Daniel van Eijmeren <dve at kabelfoon.nl> wrote:
> I can accept *both* of them. I wasn't debunking
> the story. I just found the idea of Terries and
> Fermies causing earthquackes rather odd. Barks
> normally explains anomalies with scientifically
> provable hogwash. This story seems to do the
> opposite. But then, why not. I'm beginning
> to the see the beauty of the story. Despite
> the cuts. Who knows what more the story may
> have contained!
Haven't you seen the complete version in Holland?
In Scandinavia a cutted version was presented in the weeklies #7-10/1975 and
an AFAIK complete version in the "Gullbok" from 1999.
Sigvald
> I can accept *both* of them. I wasn't debunking
> the story. I just found the idea of Terries and
> Fermies causing earthquackes rather odd. Barks
> normally explains anomalies with scientifically
> provable hogwash. This story seems to do the
> opposite. But then, why not. I'm beginning
> to the see the beauty of the story. Despite
> the cuts. Who knows what more the story may
> have contained!
Haven't you seen the complete version in Holland?
In Scandinavia a cutted version was presented in the weeklies #7-10/1975 and
an AFAIK complete version in the "Gullbok" from 1999.
Sigvald
Lars Jensen
story codes
Message 50 -
2003-09-02 at 22:36:57
Olaf wrote:
> > > Recommended reading: D/D 2001-013, D/D 2002-009, D/D 2002-020
> > > and D/D 2003-022 :-)
>
> > I know it's a long shot, but... Do you happen to know what the title
> > of D/D 2003-022 is? :-)
>
> Uhm... Yes. You made me wonder if I had written a number wrong and
> this really was a story written by Lars Jensen. It wasn't - so now I
> just sit here wondering why on earth you asked me that question. The
> title is "Wand vs. Woodchucks". Written by yours truly. Why do you
> ask?
Because I could find the titles of the other stories on COA and was
wondering what the title of D/D 2003-022 was. And I suspected you might
know.
Lars
> > > Recommended reading: D/D 2001-013, D/D 2002-009, D/D 2002-020
> > > and D/D 2003-022 :-)
>
> > I know it's a long shot, but... Do you happen to know what the title
> > of D/D 2003-022 is? :-)
>
> Uhm... Yes. You made me wonder if I had written a number wrong and
> this really was a story written by Lars Jensen. It wasn't - so now I
> just sit here wondering why on earth you asked me that question. The
> title is "Wand vs. Woodchucks". Written by yours truly. Why do you
> ask?
Because I could find the titles of the other stories on COA and was
wondering what the title of D/D 2003-022 was. And I suspected you might
know.
Lars
Gerd Syllwasschy
Cutting of "Land Beneath the Ground"
Message 51 -
2003-09-02 at 22:44:27
Sigvald:
> In Scandinavia a cutted version was presented in the weeklies #7-10/1975 and
> an AFAIK complete version in the "Gullbok" from 1999.
The complete 32-page version of "Land beneath the Ground" as Barks drew
it has never been published anywhere. 2 and 5/8 pages are still presumed
lost.
Gerd
> In Scandinavia a cutted version was presented in the weeklies #7-10/1975 and
> an AFAIK complete version in the "Gullbok" from 1999.
The complete 32-page version of "Land beneath the Ground" as Barks drew
it has never been published anywhere. 2 and 5/8 pages are still presumed
lost.
Gerd
Frank Bubacz
Trick Or Treat
Message 52 -
2003-09-02 at 23:07:02
Gerd:
>So, if a scene from the comic does not appear in the movie, this does not
>necessarily mean that it was Barks' own idea.
Accepted. ;-) So let's talk about "differences between comic and film"
instead of "Barks' ideas", although I think we can agree that pages 16-24
are exactly that. In fact so much that the censor couldn't take it. The
other important thing that can easily be attributed to Barks is the
strengthening of the "unbeliever" element (Hazel's monologue on page 2 and
Donald's hesitating attitude towards her witchcraft), which is barely hinted
at in the short, although the simple reason might be there just wasn't as
much space for dialogue as in the comic.
>My DVD version (length 7'56 at 25 fps, ca. 7'10 without credits) does not
>contain the goat scene, either.
For what it's worth, Geoff Blum claims in the CBL that the goat scene was a
Barks addition. So we can probably add it to the list of differences.
Frank
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>So, if a scene from the comic does not appear in the movie, this does not
>necessarily mean that it was Barks' own idea.
Accepted. ;-) So let's talk about "differences between comic and film"
instead of "Barks' ideas", although I think we can agree that pages 16-24
are exactly that. In fact so much that the censor couldn't take it. The
other important thing that can easily be attributed to Barks is the
strengthening of the "unbeliever" element (Hazel's monologue on page 2 and
Donald's hesitating attitude towards her witchcraft), which is barely hinted
at in the short, although the simple reason might be there just wasn't as
much space for dialogue as in the comic.
>My DVD version (length 7'56 at 25 fps, ca. 7'10 without credits) does not
>contain the goat scene, either.
For what it's worth, Geoff Blum claims in the CBL that the goat scene was a
Barks addition. So we can probably add it to the list of differences.
Frank
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story codes
Message 53 -
2003-09-02 at 23:12:06
OLAF:
>>> I know it's a long shot, but... Do you happen to know what the
>>> title of D/D 2003-022 is? :-)
> Because I could find the titles of the other stories on COA and was
> wondering what the title of D/D 2003-022 was. And I suspected you
> might know.
Duly noted and will be part of Inducks on the next update. Thanks to
Lars for asking, thanks to Olaf for answering and thanks to Thomas for
reminding me! :-) I presume this is the "famous" non-platypus story...
S?ren
>>> I know it's a long shot, but... Do you happen to know what the
>>> title of D/D 2003-022 is? :-)
> Because I could find the titles of the other stories on COA and was
> wondering what the title of D/D 2003-022 was. And I suspected you
> might know.
Duly noted and will be part of Inducks on the next update. Thanks to
Lars for asking, thanks to Olaf for answering and thanks to Thomas for
reminding me! :-) I presume this is the "famous" non-platypus story...
S?ren
Cord Wiljes
Casper
Message 54 -
2003-09-03 at 00:28:27
Arie Fachrisal wrote:
> the side-talk about Casper the Dead Baby erally gives me the
> creeps, i had never thought about it that way to admit. That opens a
whole
> new persepctive as how Casper really died, it can be a crepy story but
since
> it's Disney Comics mailing list, i shouldnt talk about it :-)
You can, of course, always move the subject of Casper to
www.dcml-talk.org
Cord
> the side-talk about Casper the Dead Baby erally gives me the
> creeps, i had never thought about it that way to admit. That opens a
whole
> new persepctive as how Casper really died, it can be a crepy story but
since
> it's Disney Comics mailing list, i shouldnt talk about it :-)
You can, of course, always move the subject of Casper to
www.dcml-talk.org
Cord
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Blue-screen (OT)
Message 55 -
2003-09-03 at 04:07:15
OLAF SOLSTRAND to me, 01-092003:
> Olaf the Blue-screen
> (Dani?l, you were kidding, right? You don't have my photo as your
> desktop background, do you?)
{Sound of a creepy, nerve-wrecking orchestra slows gets louder.}
This is the part where the famous Olaf Solstrand discovers that he has
attracted a dangerous psychopathic stalker... :-)
--- Dani?l, missing a lot of vitamin B12 (because of his hunger strike)
> Olaf the Blue-screen
> (Dani?l, you were kidding, right? You don't have my photo as your
> desktop background, do you?)
{Sound of a creepy, nerve-wrecking orchestra slows gets louder.}
This is the part where the famous Olaf Solstrand discovers that he has
attracted a dangerous psychopathic stalker... :-)
--- Dani?l, missing a lot of vitamin B12 (because of his hunger strike)
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Witch-Queen Snow White / Harry's trick
Message 56 -
2003-09-03 at 04:57:39
SHAD Z to RICH BELLACERA, 01-09-2003:
>> 4) Witch-Queen from Snow White
>> Another witch typically encountered in Forest-related stories.
>> Always evil. Not much used these days.
> Whenever she appears in comics, she's wearing her "old crone" disguise
> from the end of the movie (at least, in all the comics stories I've
> seen her in, except for actual adaptations of the movie). Why is that?
In comics, Disney movie characters are often used in their most memorable
appearance. Think of "Belle and the Beast". In the comics, Belle still
meets her lover as the beast, instead of the person with the very big nose
in the last minutes of the movie. (Maybe he decided that he was better of
as beast.) There's also The Lion King. In the movie the father is killed,
and Simba has grown old. In the comics, Simba's father is still alive and
Simba is still young.
HARRY DOTTER (a.k.a. FLUKS) to JOSE GONZALEZ-GIGATO, 02-09-2003:
>> What is the procedure to submit corrections [to Inducks]?
> For American (and Dutch) comics, an e-mail to me does the trick.
Trick? Are you supernatural, Harry?
--- Dani?l
"We have found a witch. May we burn her?"
http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Scripts/HolyGrail/TheHolyGrail.screenplay
>> 4) Witch-Queen from Snow White
>> Another witch typically encountered in Forest-related stories.
>> Always evil. Not much used these days.
> Whenever she appears in comics, she's wearing her "old crone" disguise
> from the end of the movie (at least, in all the comics stories I've
> seen her in, except for actual adaptations of the movie). Why is that?
In comics, Disney movie characters are often used in their most memorable
appearance. Think of "Belle and the Beast". In the comics, Belle still
meets her lover as the beast, instead of the person with the very big nose
in the last minutes of the movie. (Maybe he decided that he was better of
as beast.) There's also The Lion King. In the movie the father is killed,
and Simba has grown old. In the comics, Simba's father is still alive and
Simba is still young.
HARRY DOTTER (a.k.a. FLUKS) to JOSE GONZALEZ-GIGATO, 02-09-2003:
>> What is the procedure to submit corrections [to Inducks]?
> For American (and Dutch) comics, an e-mail to me does the trick.
Trick? Are you supernatural, Harry?
--- Dani?l
"We have found a witch. May we burn her?"
http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Scripts/HolyGrail/TheHolyGrail.screenplay
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Barks's mirror quote / Magica / Glomgold / pig villain / Kriton /
Message 57 -
2003-09-03 at 06:24:20
MADS JENSEN, 02-09-2003:
>> "The sound cracked the mirror!... Brother! That's QUALITY!"
> Is it the story where Donald is a sound expert ? Can't find the code
> for it right now :-(
Sound expert? I'm not sure if you mean the same story as I do. The
comment is indeed by Donald. But it's NOT "Monkey Business" (WDC 297),
if that's what you mean.
LARS JENSEN to me, 02-09-2003:
>> Is Barks's Magica an evil person? Has she ever threatened to really
>> harm (or even kill) people or animals? I can't remember any such
>> instance.
> Is she evil? This is an impossible question to answer. How do you
> define evil? Are the Beagle Boys evil? Is Big Bad Wolf? Is Scrooge
> McDuck? Depends on who you're asking, probably.
"Evil" indeed is not a clear word. You're right. I meant to ask if
Barks's Magica is able to really harm or even kill people or animals.
Flintheart Glomgold would fit in that category. In "So Far and No Safari"
(US 61), he tries to kill the Ducks by literally BOMBING them.
The pig villain also tries to kill the Ducks, in "Crown of the Mayas"
(US 44), and in "The Great Wig Mystery" (US 52).
Maybe this could be nice Barks quiz, finding such instances. And are the
Ducks always innocent themselves, or not?
ARIE FACHRISAL to me, 02-09-2003:
>> So, this might explain how Santa is doing those "foing" and "shrink"
>> tricks in "A Letter to Santa". And why not? Flickus, Flackus,
>> Fumdeedledum! :-)
> Yikkus, Yakkus, Youbettus. Though i am somehat baffled by why an old
> man with white beard would laugh "ho-ho-ho" when his big round nose
> is freezing into a reddish state ;-)
Maybe he gets some bottles with not-so-supernatural potions at his
local liquor shop, to get his nose so shiny, and his laughing so silly.
"Ho-ho-ho, Red-nose Rudolf! Old tippler! Don't drink and drive, they
say! Ho-ho-ho! Who do those cops think I am? Santa Claus? Ho-ho-ho!"
KRITON KYRIMIS to me, 02-09-2003:
>> P.S. Release Kriton! Sign the petition! Buy "Release Kriton!" shirts,
>> so we buy some flowers to cheer him up in that moldy jail!
> It's not that bad in here;
(Maybe so, but I sure can use the money. And if you don't want your share,
I get even more for myself.) Buy "Release Kriton" shirts! Don't be so
doggoned greedy! Buy "Release Kriton" shirts! It's for the good cause! :-)
--- Dani?l
>> "The sound cracked the mirror!... Brother! That's QUALITY!"
> Is it the story where Donald is a sound expert ? Can't find the code
> for it right now :-(
Sound expert? I'm not sure if you mean the same story as I do. The
comment is indeed by Donald. But it's NOT "Monkey Business" (WDC 297),
if that's what you mean.
LARS JENSEN to me, 02-09-2003:
>> Is Barks's Magica an evil person? Has she ever threatened to really
>> harm (or even kill) people or animals? I can't remember any such
>> instance.
> Is she evil? This is an impossible question to answer. How do you
> define evil? Are the Beagle Boys evil? Is Big Bad Wolf? Is Scrooge
> McDuck? Depends on who you're asking, probably.
"Evil" indeed is not a clear word. You're right. I meant to ask if
Barks's Magica is able to really harm or even kill people or animals.
Flintheart Glomgold would fit in that category. In "So Far and No Safari"
(US 61), he tries to kill the Ducks by literally BOMBING them.
The pig villain also tries to kill the Ducks, in "Crown of the Mayas"
(US 44), and in "The Great Wig Mystery" (US 52).
Maybe this could be nice Barks quiz, finding such instances. And are the
Ducks always innocent themselves, or not?
ARIE FACHRISAL to me, 02-09-2003:
>> So, this might explain how Santa is doing those "foing" and "shrink"
>> tricks in "A Letter to Santa". And why not? Flickus, Flackus,
>> Fumdeedledum! :-)
> Yikkus, Yakkus, Youbettus. Though i am somehat baffled by why an old
> man with white beard would laugh "ho-ho-ho" when his big round nose
> is freezing into a reddish state ;-)
Maybe he gets some bottles with not-so-supernatural potions at his
local liquor shop, to get his nose so shiny, and his laughing so silly.
"Ho-ho-ho, Red-nose Rudolf! Old tippler! Don't drink and drive, they
say! Ho-ho-ho! Who do those cops think I am? Santa Claus? Ho-ho-ho!"
KRITON KYRIMIS to me, 02-09-2003:
>> P.S. Release Kriton! Sign the petition! Buy "Release Kriton!" shirts,
>> so we buy some flowers to cheer him up in that moldy jail!
> It's not that bad in here;
(Maybe so, but I sure can use the money. And if you don't want your share,
I get even more for myself.) Buy "Release Kriton" shirts! Don't be so
doggoned greedy! Buy "Release Kriton" shirts! It's for the good cause! :-)
--- Dani?l
Poul Spærhage Frøkjær
Comic book trading -mainly for Danes!
Message 58 -
2003-09-03 at 10:10:33
Hi guys,
I have just learned the following:
On Oct 25. there will be a posibility to trade comic books in Aarhus. Not
only Disneys, but this being Scandinavia I guess there will be just a
couple of Disneys present :-) . I think it is the first time in 8 years
there is such an "open to public" event i Denmark. See link (text in
Danish):
http://www.seriejournalen.dk/sj_indhold.asp?sprog=DK&art=Nyhed&ID=1092
-see you there
-Poul
I have just learned the following:
On Oct 25. there will be a posibility to trade comic books in Aarhus. Not
only Disneys, but this being Scandinavia I guess there will be just a
couple of Disneys present :-) . I think it is the first time in 8 years
there is such an "open to public" event i Denmark. See link (text in
Danish):
http://www.seriejournalen.dk/sj_indhold.asp?sprog=DK&art=Nyhed&ID=1092
-see you there
-Poul
Timo Ronkainen
Barks's mirror quote
Message 59 -
2003-09-03 at 10:44:06
> >> "The sound cracked the mirror!... Brother! That's QUALITY!"
That must be one of my all time favorites: WDC 165-01 (Aku Ankka musiikin
lumoissa) The Price of Fame!
Donald is singing in bathtub and he's braking the bathroom mirror. He tries
to get famous by some sort of music, any kind... :-)
Timo
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That must be one of my all time favorites: WDC 165-01 (Aku Ankka musiikin
lumoissa) The Price of Fame!
Donald is singing in bathtub and he's braking the bathroom mirror. He tries
to get famous by some sort of music, any kind... :-)
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kyl? 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
?? Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
?? Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/
?? Kvaak-sarjakuvaportaali:
http://www.kvaak.fi
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Barks's mirror quote / Magica / Glomgold / pig villain / Kriton
Message 60 -
2003-09-03 at 12:05:37
> Flintheart Glomgold would fit in that category. In "So Far and No Safari"
> (US 61), he tries to kill the Ducks by literally BOMBING them.
Maby dis is aut of subject but Glomgold tries to kil the Duck's in Don Rosa
story "Last Lord of Eldorado" by pushing Big rock on them.
Beagle Boys and Magica (and maby even Jhon. Rockerduck) woud never do
somthing like dies.
Yours
Maciek
> (US 61), he tries to kill the Ducks by literally BOMBING them.
Maby dis is aut of subject but Glomgold tries to kil the Duck's in Don Rosa
story "Last Lord of Eldorado" by pushing Big rock on them.
Beagle Boys and Magica (and maby even Jhon. Rockerduck) woud never do
somthing like dies.
Yours
Maciek