> Are wrote:
> A photo of Carl Barks and his second wife Clara is for the moment offered
> on ebay:
> I have no idea where it comes from.
>
>
My guess is that it comes from his former managers.
/Joakim.
Author
Topic: 200309
(480 messages)
Gunnarsson, Joakim SE - HMJ
Barks and Clara photo
Message 76 -
2003-09-04 at 13:41:18
Lars Jensen
Need digest v. 7 #3
Message 77 -
2003-09-04 at 16:23:44
Mike Rhode wrote:
> Can someone sent me digest v. 7 #3 directly?
I just did.
Lars
> Can someone sent me digest v. 7 #3 directly?
I just did.
Lars
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Barks and Clara photo
Message 78 -
2003-09-04 at 17:55:06
JOAKIM GUNNARSSON to ARE MYKLEBUST, 04-09-2003:
>> A photo of Carl Barks and his second wife Clara is for the moment
>> offered on ebay:
>> I have no idea where it comes from.
> My guess is that it comes from his former managers.
Why do you think so? Do you think this by default when you don't know
the seller, or do you really have more information?
Anyway, the reason why I'm replying to this is that in the past, I have
been wrongful accused of willing association and cooperation with these
managers. That accusation is NONSENSE of the worst kind, so I should
forget about it. Still, your email makes me nervous. There might be some
poor souls around who'll imagine that my email about Barks's second wife
is a proof of such a connection, just because someone else mentions a
possible(?) connection between my subject and those Ebay-sellers... And
really, I'm not kidding!
So, in short:
- I have NO idea who these sellers are.
- I have NO idea who Barks's managers are.
The only "contact" I've had with the Carl Barks Studio, was a package of
promotional material that has been sent to me, because I wanted to know
what exactly Barks was creating at the time. (No strange motive for a
Barks fan, I'd say.) And for that reason, my name and then-current address
seems to have been put in their files, because I received some material
afterwards. (About a Marc Davis Studio they tried to set up, and some odd
other papers.) This was after Barks left, and I did not ask for it. I have
NEVER made a secret of that, and I have always been an open book about the
material I have recieved. EVERYONE could have had this "contact" that easily.
And some of their "extra" information has made me quite nervous, by the way.
Ironically, and to push the obvious even further, I was on holiday in Spain
when Barks and his managers visited The Netherlands! But of course, that
could be just too much of a coincidence, some might say. Others may see that
I get half-crazy when thinking of those accusations which have deeply hurt
me. I have NEVER been more than just a guy with an internet-connection and
some Barks books. What can I do? I can't even hurt a fly!
--- Dani?l the Parano?d Monk
>> A photo of Carl Barks and his second wife Clara is for the moment
>> offered on ebay:
>> I have no idea where it comes from.
> My guess is that it comes from his former managers.
Why do you think so? Do you think this by default when you don't know
the seller, or do you really have more information?
Anyway, the reason why I'm replying to this is that in the past, I have
been wrongful accused of willing association and cooperation with these
managers. That accusation is NONSENSE of the worst kind, so I should
forget about it. Still, your email makes me nervous. There might be some
poor souls around who'll imagine that my email about Barks's second wife
is a proof of such a connection, just because someone else mentions a
possible(?) connection between my subject and those Ebay-sellers... And
really, I'm not kidding!
So, in short:
- I have NO idea who these sellers are.
- I have NO idea who Barks's managers are.
The only "contact" I've had with the Carl Barks Studio, was a package of
promotional material that has been sent to me, because I wanted to know
what exactly Barks was creating at the time. (No strange motive for a
Barks fan, I'd say.) And for that reason, my name and then-current address
seems to have been put in their files, because I received some material
afterwards. (About a Marc Davis Studio they tried to set up, and some odd
other papers.) This was after Barks left, and I did not ask for it. I have
NEVER made a secret of that, and I have always been an open book about the
material I have recieved. EVERYONE could have had this "contact" that easily.
And some of their "extra" information has made me quite nervous, by the way.
Ironically, and to push the obvious even further, I was on holiday in Spain
when Barks and his managers visited The Netherlands! But of course, that
could be just too much of a coincidence, some might say. Others may see that
I get half-crazy when thinking of those accusations which have deeply hurt
me. I have NEVER been more than just a guy with an internet-connection and
some Barks books. What can I do? I can't even hurt a fly!
--- Dani?l the Parano?d Monk
Dennis Books
1984 DISNEY CALENDAR featuring DONALD DUCK
Message 79 -
2003-09-04 at 20:25:12
Hello... Wondering if any one can send me a colored copy of the above calendar cover. I have the original artwork but it may never have been produced. It shows Donald through the ages, progressing from the Wise Little Hen to hitting the Mickey Mouse Club gong. It includes a Sheriff of Bullet Valley image which is a perfect copy of Barks' work. My artwork has twelve empty rectangles in the center, i assume for a miniature of each months image. If i had those images i could cut them out and place them in the rectangles surrounded by the original art.
Thanks for any help...Dennis
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Arie Fachrisal
Beagle Boys: fail criminals or famed ones?
Message 80 -
2003-09-04 at 21:51:38
> From: "Olivier" <mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr>
> Even though it's for a the sake of the status gags, this suggests the
> Beagle Boys are not petty thieves but are recognized as "tops" (p 6 panel
> 7).
> This may seem in contradiction with the fact we always see them fail.
> Actually, they do succeed in robbing Scrooge several times, in quiet
> ingenious ways; it's just that the ducks manage to get the money back.
I tend to agree with this thinking. In Barks' stories, Scrooge has been
shown to consider the Beagle Boys as his worthy adversaries. The modern
incarnation of how Beagle Boys failed at even the simplest crimes is uneasy
to read and enjoy whole-heartedly, though some of them are good and brings
out good laugh sometimes.
the Beagle Boys' gag (or should i say the gag "about" BB and US) i like most
is in "The Round Money Bin" story.
U$: "They outsmarted me somehow, but tomorrow is another day."
DD: "Oh yeah! Tomorrow YOU'LL outsmart them! Then THEY'LL have to outsmart
YOU again! Poor guys!"
Keep On Outsmarting,
Arie Fachrisal who's looking for volunteers to be outsmarted.
> Even though it's for a the sake of the status gags, this suggests the
> Beagle Boys are not petty thieves but are recognized as "tops" (p 6 panel
> 7).
> This may seem in contradiction with the fact we always see them fail.
> Actually, they do succeed in robbing Scrooge several times, in quiet
> ingenious ways; it's just that the ducks manage to get the money back.
I tend to agree with this thinking. In Barks' stories, Scrooge has been
shown to consider the Beagle Boys as his worthy adversaries. The modern
incarnation of how Beagle Boys failed at even the simplest crimes is uneasy
to read and enjoy whole-heartedly, though some of them are good and brings
out good laugh sometimes.
the Beagle Boys' gag (or should i say the gag "about" BB and US) i like most
is in "The Round Money Bin" story.
U$: "They outsmarted me somehow, but tomorrow is another day."
DD: "Oh yeah! Tomorrow YOU'LL outsmart them! Then THEY'LL have to outsmart
YOU again! Poor guys!"
Keep On Outsmarting,
Arie Fachrisal who's looking for volunteers to be outsmarted.
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Monkey Business (WDC 297)
Message 81 -
2003-09-05 at 05:13:01
On Discovery Channel, I saw a snippet of a documentary about the Chinese
dictator Moa. It contained b/w (1950s?) footage of people having to hunt
for sparrows, which were considered a plague. The people were shaking the
trees, so the sparrows couldn't land on the branches. And others were
shooting at the sparrows with guns and slingshots.
This sparrow plague reminded me of Barks's art-only "Monkey Business"
(WDC 297), in which Scrooge telephones King Jambok of Siambodia to help
him get rid of a plague of ricebirds raiding the country's rice paddies.
During the story, King Subgum of Upper Malaria tries to invade country
Siambodia. He's mad because the Siambodian ricebirds begin to raid *his*
countries rice paddies.
I didn't realise that the story apparently has a real-life connection with
bird plagues in Asian countries. Is there more to discover? Does the story
refer to some actual toys, countries, and events in particular? (Submission
date is 16 November 1964.)
Some other notes/observations:
Panel 2.6 shows a picture of a duckling coming out of an egg, basically
resembling the looks of one of Donald's nephews.
Panel 3.7 refers to statues in Duckburg's McMallard Park. One statue looks
like Napoleon. I don't know if the other resembles a real person. (Does it?)
Panel 5.7 shows the Royal Nightingales of Siambodia. They have to witness
the payment of Scrooge, to make the deal legal in Siambodia. There's a
fairy tale about a Chinese nightingale, by Hans Christian Andersen. Is
there also a connection with real-life Chinese/Asian traditions of kings
or emperors? Could Barks have known the Andersen fairy tale?
In panel 6.5, King Jambok substracts another five gallons of diamonds for
an army to defend Siambodia's rice fields. Scrooge then thinks: "What I
could say right now about RICE wouldn't be nice!" Is there a gag in here,
other than just the rhyming sound?
In panel 9.2, King Jambok is angry about the plague returning and wants to
let Scrooge pay, because he's "the only guy that can afford the damages!"
On the last page of "The Giant Robot Robbers" (US 58), Mayor Hogwilde says:
"SOMEBODY has to PAY for the damage to those man-robots - and YOU'RE the
only guy rich enough, McDuck!" So, together with "The Doom Diamond" (US 70),
Scrooge has had to cope with at least three situations in which leaders are
eager to demand access to his fortune.
Panel 2.5 shows a picture of a dinner bell being served as dinner. This
is a background detail. In panel 8.5, royal gongs and dinner bells are
mentioned, this time as part of the story.
--- Dani?l
"Hey! Somethin's makin' SENSE!"
(Which Barks story?)
dictator Moa. It contained b/w (1950s?) footage of people having to hunt
for sparrows, which were considered a plague. The people were shaking the
trees, so the sparrows couldn't land on the branches. And others were
shooting at the sparrows with guns and slingshots.
This sparrow plague reminded me of Barks's art-only "Monkey Business"
(WDC 297), in which Scrooge telephones King Jambok of Siambodia to help
him get rid of a plague of ricebirds raiding the country's rice paddies.
During the story, King Subgum of Upper Malaria tries to invade country
Siambodia. He's mad because the Siambodian ricebirds begin to raid *his*
countries rice paddies.
I didn't realise that the story apparently has a real-life connection with
bird plagues in Asian countries. Is there more to discover? Does the story
refer to some actual toys, countries, and events in particular? (Submission
date is 16 November 1964.)
Some other notes/observations:
Panel 2.6 shows a picture of a duckling coming out of an egg, basically
resembling the looks of one of Donald's nephews.
Panel 3.7 refers to statues in Duckburg's McMallard Park. One statue looks
like Napoleon. I don't know if the other resembles a real person. (Does it?)
Panel 5.7 shows the Royal Nightingales of Siambodia. They have to witness
the payment of Scrooge, to make the deal legal in Siambodia. There's a
fairy tale about a Chinese nightingale, by Hans Christian Andersen. Is
there also a connection with real-life Chinese/Asian traditions of kings
or emperors? Could Barks have known the Andersen fairy tale?
In panel 6.5, King Jambok substracts another five gallons of diamonds for
an army to defend Siambodia's rice fields. Scrooge then thinks: "What I
could say right now about RICE wouldn't be nice!" Is there a gag in here,
other than just the rhyming sound?
In panel 9.2, King Jambok is angry about the plague returning and wants to
let Scrooge pay, because he's "the only guy that can afford the damages!"
On the last page of "The Giant Robot Robbers" (US 58), Mayor Hogwilde says:
"SOMEBODY has to PAY for the damage to those man-robots - and YOU'RE the
only guy rich enough, McDuck!" So, together with "The Doom Diamond" (US 70),
Scrooge has had to cope with at least three situations in which leaders are
eager to demand access to his fortune.
Panel 2.5 shows a picture of a dinner bell being served as dinner. This
is a background detail. In panel 8.5, royal gongs and dinner bells are
mentioned, this time as part of the story.
--- Dani?l
"Hey! Somethin's makin' SENSE!"
(Which Barks story?)
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Scrooge's fortune / rehabilitated Beagle Boys Inc. / Grease Corps
Message 82 -
2003-09-05 at 06:08:12
In panel 20.4 of "The Giant Robot Robbers" (US 58), Scrooge estimates
that he has to pay 30 billion dollars and concludes that'll take most
of one of the giant buckets of his money. According to panel 12.4,
there are at least seven buckets of money in the story. This could make
the story one of the few that seem give some indication of Scrooge's
(minimum) fortune, so to speak.
In panel 20.5, Mayor Hogwilde sends the Beagle Boys back to prison
"to be REHABILITATED again!" The reminds me of the ending of "The
House of Haunts" (US 63), where a judge sentences them to be
re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-REhabilitated AGAIN!"
In previous panel 20.4 of "House of Haunts", the famous Mrs. Justice
emblem is satirized. (I don't know what the real name is.)
Earlier, on panel 13.5, a poster is shown with a fat pig-face and the
texts "Join the Grease Corps!" and "Eat fat sikles". I think that
Grease Corps must be a pun on the Peace Corps, a movement which Barks
satirized in "A Spicy Tale" (US 39).
BTW. I love panel 13.7, with "ghost" Scrooge making a statement about
his past life, and next to Scrooge a cat which seems to look a bit silly
at him. I like the balance of this panel. It makes Scrooge's statement
about his death a bit softer, while adding some fun to it. The pair looks
rather laughable to me, at least. On previous panel 13.6, Scrooge's hat
being put on his tail(!) also seems to soften the dramatic scene a bit,
while adding some fun.
--- Dani?l
"Hey! I said I wanted a MILLION - not a MILLIONAIRE!" (US 58)
that he has to pay 30 billion dollars and concludes that'll take most
of one of the giant buckets of his money. According to panel 12.4,
there are at least seven buckets of money in the story. This could make
the story one of the few that seem give some indication of Scrooge's
(minimum) fortune, so to speak.
In panel 20.5, Mayor Hogwilde sends the Beagle Boys back to prison
"to be REHABILITATED again!" The reminds me of the ending of "The
House of Haunts" (US 63), where a judge sentences them to be
re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-REhabilitated AGAIN!"
In previous panel 20.4 of "House of Haunts", the famous Mrs. Justice
emblem is satirized. (I don't know what the real name is.)
Earlier, on panel 13.5, a poster is shown with a fat pig-face and the
texts "Join the Grease Corps!" and "Eat fat sikles". I think that
Grease Corps must be a pun on the Peace Corps, a movement which Barks
satirized in "A Spicy Tale" (US 39).
BTW. I love panel 13.7, with "ghost" Scrooge making a statement about
his past life, and next to Scrooge a cat which seems to look a bit silly
at him. I like the balance of this panel. It makes Scrooge's statement
about his death a bit softer, while adding some fun to it. The pair looks
rather laughable to me, at least. On previous panel 13.6, Scrooge's hat
being put on his tail(!) also seems to soften the dramatic scene a bit,
while adding some fun.
--- Dani?l
"Hey! I said I wanted a MILLION - not a MILLIONAIRE!" (US 58)
Michael Schartau
Kalevala beats DD
Message 83 -
2003-09-05 at 11:18:43
In todays free Stockholm newspaper "Stocholm City" you can se a headline "Kalevala sp?ar Kalle Anka" (Kalevala beats Donald Duck). Today is the opening of "Kaevala" on the stage of Stockholm City Theatre. Donald Duck is not mentioned in the article.
/Michael
/Michael
Rolf Van De Kamer
Terrible weapons (US 70)
Message 84 -
2003-09-05 at 11:45:12
In my copy of the Gold Key 10038-707 (july 1967) Doom Diamond story, Scrooge says on panel 5/6 exactly what is quoted by Dani?l. Indeed, in a slightly different/smaller lettering-type. I don't know the reason, other than seek out eagle-eyed readers ! :)
H.W.Fluks
Monkey Business (WDC 297)
Message 85 -
2003-09-05 at 17:11:21
Dani?l wrote:
> On Discovery Channel, I saw a snippet of a documentary about
> the Chinese dictator Moa.
And I nitpickingly correct:
I think you mean Mao. His full name in the currently used transcription is Mau Zedong.
--Harry.
> On Discovery Channel, I saw a snippet of a documentary about
> the Chinese dictator Moa.
And I nitpickingly correct:
I think you mean Mao. His full name in the currently used transcription is Mau Zedong.
--Harry.
UNDBKB
Barks and wife photograph
Message 86 -
2003-09-05 at 17:41:18
In a message dated 9/5/03 3:05:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:
> >> A photo of Carl Barks and his second wife Clara is for the moment
> >> offered on ebay:
> >> I have no idea where it comes from.
>
> > My guess is that it comes from his former managers.
>
> Why do you think so? Do you think this by default when you don't know
> the seller, or do you really have more information?
> The sellers are indeed his former managers, they sell under the name
> "gildedegg"
It seems a little bizaare that they would have this in, as they say,"Their
collection"
I wonder how much of their "collection" was accumulated while working for
Barks?
It certainly is an unusual piece but not what most Barks collectors want. I
would much prefer to own a piece of Barks memorabilia that Barks gave me than
to buy this from former managers who were discharged
ebay link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2188651300&category=144
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:
> >> A photo of Carl Barks and his second wife Clara is for the moment
> >> offered on ebay:
> >> I have no idea where it comes from.
>
> > My guess is that it comes from his former managers.
>
> Why do you think so? Do you think this by default when you don't know
> the seller, or do you really have more information?
> The sellers are indeed his former managers, they sell under the name
> "gildedegg"
It seems a little bizaare that they would have this in, as they say,"Their
collection"
I wonder how much of their "collection" was accumulated while working for
Barks?
It certainly is an unusual piece but not what most Barks collectors want. I
would much prefer to own a piece of Barks memorabilia that Barks gave me than
to buy this from former managers who were discharged
ebay link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2188651300&category=144
Stefan Persson
Monkey Business (WDC 297)
Message 87 -
2003-09-05 at 18:30:36
>From: <H.W.Fluks at telecom.tno.nl>
>To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: RE: Monkey Business (WDC 297)
>Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:11:21 +0200
>Dani?l wrote:
>
> > On Discovery Channel, I saw a snippet of a documentary about
> > the Chinese dictator Moa.
>
>And I nitpickingly correct:
>
>I think you mean Mao. His full name in the currently used transcription is
>Mau Zedong.
And I nitpickingly correct:
I think you mean chairman Mao. His full name in the transcription currently
used in English is Mao Zedong.
Stefan
_________________________________________________________________
L?ttare att hitta dr?mresan med MSN Resor http://www.msn.se/resor/
>To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: RE: Monkey Business (WDC 297)
>Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:11:21 +0200
>Dani?l wrote:
>
> > On Discovery Channel, I saw a snippet of a documentary about
> > the Chinese dictator Moa.
>
>And I nitpickingly correct:
>
>I think you mean Mao. His full name in the currently used transcription is
>Mau Zedong.
And I nitpickingly correct:
I think you mean chairman Mao. His full name in the transcription currently
used in English is Mao Zedong.
Stefan
_________________________________________________________________
L?ttare att hitta dr?mresan med MSN Resor http://www.msn.se/resor/
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
DvE and Mao Tse Tung
Message 88 -
2003-09-05 at 23:30:12
Daniel van Eijmeren <dve at kabelfoon.nl> wrote:
> On Discovery Channel, I saw a snippet of a
> documentary about the Chinese dictator Moa.
FYI. The man was named Mao (*not* Moa) Tse Tung. He died in 1976 after being
Chinas communist dictator since 1949. Many left-wingers in Europe and other
places were and still are inspired by him. Once, I think it was during the
Korean-war, he described the US nuclear weapons as paper-dragons.
Sigvald
> On Discovery Channel, I saw a snippet of a
> documentary about the Chinese dictator Moa.
FYI. The man was named Mao (*not* Moa) Tse Tung. He died in 1976 after being
Chinas communist dictator since 1949. Many left-wingers in Europe and other
places were and still are inspired by him. Once, I think it was during the
Korean-war, he described the US nuclear weapons as paper-dragons.
Sigvald
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Swedish???
Message 89 -
2003-09-05 at 23:36:48
Michael Schartau <m_schartau at hotmail.com> wrote:
> In todays free Stockholm newspaper "Stocholm
> City" you can se a headline "Kalevala sp?ar
> Kalle Anka" (Kalevala beats Donald Duck).
What is this "sp?ar" word? Is it some strange Stockholmish dialect word?
AFAIK the correct Swedish word here wold be "sl?r" or "?verg?r".
Sigvald
> In todays free Stockholm newspaper "Stocholm
> City" you can se a headline "Kalevala sp?ar
> Kalle Anka" (Kalevala beats Donald Duck).
What is this "sp?ar" word? Is it some strange Stockholmish dialect word?
AFAIK the correct Swedish word here wold be "sl?r" or "?verg?r".
Sigvald
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Monkey Business (WDC 297)
Message 90 -
2003-09-05 at 23:45:46
H.W.Fluks at telecom.tno.nl wrote:
> And I nitpickingly correct:
>
> I think you mean Mao. His full name in the
> currently used transcription is Mau Zedong.
No! Mao should AFAIK be written with an O in the end. So the currently used
transcription should be MaO Zedong. The same way the name of the Chinese
capital "Peking" has been changed to "Beijing". The name of the dog-race
"Pekingneser" has AFAIK *not* be renamed to "Beijingneser" though!
Sigvald
> And I nitpickingly correct:
>
> I think you mean Mao. His full name in the
> currently used transcription is Mau Zedong.
No! Mao should AFAIK be written with an O in the end. So the currently used
transcription should be MaO Zedong. The same way the name of the Chinese
capital "Peking" has been changed to "Beijing". The name of the dog-race
"Pekingneser" has AFAIK *not* be renamed to "Beijingneser" though!
Sigvald