>>>> The Phishkissers have finally met their match!>
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2952425192
Appalling. This has got to be among the top 100 e-bay scams.
I hope nobody will actually fall for it & bid for it-- even for fun, since
bidding binds you.
I remember a discussion we had 1-2 years (?) ago regarding such labels. I
don't remember who had made them. I remember discussing this with Kriton,
especially the bar code thing (finding a code maker, what code for
Calisotta, ...).
It may have been intended as a joke. But then, putting it up on a private
(duck-related) site would have sufficed.
Olivier
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Olivier
Oolated Squiggs on ebay
Message 316 -
2003-09-18 at 22:32:33
Cord Wiljes
AW: Oolated Squiggs on ebay
Message 317 -
2003-09-18 at 22:51:46
Olivier wrote:
> Appalling. This has got to be among the top 100 e-bay scams.
I am tempted to offer my ball of bombastium on eBay. Starting bid will be one trillion dollars and six kitchen sinks.
Cord
> Appalling. This has got to be among the top 100 e-bay scams.
I am tempted to offer my ball of bombastium on eBay. Starting bid will be one trillion dollars and six kitchen sinks.
Cord
Mas
Oolated Squiggs label
Message 318 -
2003-09-18 at 23:10:25
At 09:35 PM 9/18/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>I remember a discussion we had 1-2 years (?) ago regarding such labels. I
>don't remember who had made them. I remember discussing this with Kriton,
>especially the bar code thing (finding a code maker, what code for
>Calisotta, ...).
I just found this page on google, although it didn't come up yesterday when
I did a search for oolated squiggs:
http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/squiggs.html
Is this the label you're talking about?
- M
>I remember a discussion we had 1-2 years (?) ago regarding such labels. I
>don't remember who had made them. I remember discussing this with Kriton,
>especially the bar code thing (finding a code maker, what code for
>Calisotta, ...).
I just found this page on google, although it didn't come up yesterday when
I did a search for oolated squiggs:
http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/squiggs.html
Is this the label you're talking about?
- M
Timo Ronkainen
Oolated Squiggs label
Message 319 -
2003-09-18 at 23:47:44
>http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/squiggs.html
>
>Is this the label you're talking about?
That's the one. I made it. For a moment I was afraid it's that one that
someone is trying to sell. whee... You can have that one for free, just
supply your own can and squiggs, though ;-)
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kyl? 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
?? Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
?? Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/
?? Kvaak-sarjakuvaportaali:
http://www.kvaak.fi
...............................
"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on a cowslip - far from me!"
_________________________________________________________________
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>
>Is this the label you're talking about?
That's the one. I made it. For a moment I was afraid it's that one that
someone is trying to sell. whee... You can have that one for free, just
supply your own can and squiggs, though ;-)
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kyl? 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
?? Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
?? Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/
?? Kvaak-sarjakuvaportaali:
http://www.kvaak.fi
...............................
"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on a cowslip - far from me!"
_________________________________________________________________
Tilaa nyt Hotmail postit k?nnykk??si! http://www.msn.fi/mobiili/
Stefan Diös
Whos the best
Message 320 -
2003-09-19 at 00:39:07
Dan Shane:
>Fee, fi, fo fum. I think I know a troll when I see one. If I'm mistaken,
>I apologize, but I wait to be proved wrong. I strongly recommend that NO
>ONE answers this meaningless question.
With all respect, Dan, I believe that you may be barking up the wrong tree
here. I believe that I know the person who asked the question, and I
believe that he is genuinely interested in learning other people's opinions
and seeing the matter discussed. I also believe that he yet is somewhat
younger than, for example, you or me, but I don't believe that is a reason
to dismiss him as less "important".
Still, of course, everybody can decide for themselves whether to add to the
discussion or not. For my own part, I will choose to abstain. And if my
beliefs above are very much off the mark, I too will have to apologize.
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
>Fee, fi, fo fum. I think I know a troll when I see one. If I'm mistaken,
>I apologize, but I wait to be proved wrong. I strongly recommend that NO
>ONE answers this meaningless question.
With all respect, Dan, I believe that you may be barking up the wrong tree
here. I believe that I know the person who asked the question, and I
believe that he is genuinely interested in learning other people's opinions
and seeing the matter discussed. I also believe that he yet is somewhat
younger than, for example, you or me, but I don't believe that is a reason
to dismiss him as less "important".
Still, of course, everybody can decide for themselves whether to add to the
discussion or not. For my own part, I will choose to abstain. And if my
beliefs above are very much off the mark, I too will have to apologize.
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
Rich Bellacera
JW Firsts!
Message 321 -
2003-09-19 at 02:13:55
Here's a list of Junior Woodchucks FIRSTS that I am attempting to compile.
If anyone has better information or other information, please advise:
25 JUNIOR WOODCHUCK FIRST APPEARANCES:
01) JUNIOR WOODCHUCKS = "Operation St. Bernard" (W WDC 125-02) February, 1951
02) HUEY, DEWEY & LOUIE (as JWs) = "Operation St. Bernard" (W WDC 125-02)
February, 1951
03) Barks' DOGNOSE MOGUL = "Operation St. Bernard" (W WDC 125-02) February, 1951
04) Barks/Carey DUCK-BILL MOGUL = "A Whale of A Good Deed" (W JW 7-01) October,
1970
05) Lockman/Strobl's DOGNOSE MOGUL = "JW Meet the Thing" (W JW 1-02) August, 1966
06) Barks/Wright's BIRDBEAK MOGUL = "Eagle Savers" (W JW 11-02) October, 1971
07) DONALD DUCK (as JW Grand Mogul) = "The Ghost of Woodrew Woodchuck" (W JW 27-
01) July, 1974
08) GYRO GEARLOOSE (as JW Grand Mogul) = ?? (I need to search for this)
09) JW OFFICIAL HANDBOOK = "Secret of Atlantis" (W US 5-02) March, 1954
10) BOLIVAR (as Official JW Hound) = "Operation St. Bernard" (W WDC 125-02)
February, 1951
11) GENERAL SNOZZIE (as Official JW Hound) = "Dodging Miss Daisy" (W WDC 213-01)
June, 1958
12) PLUTO (as Official JW Hound) = "Let Sleeping Bones Lie" (W JW 8-01) January,
1971
13) RUFUS (as Official JW Hound) = "The Tell-Tale Nose" (W BB 41-01) April, 1978
14) LAPO (as Official JW Hound) = "GM Stazione Spaziale" (I GM 10-3) November 1,
1995 ??
15) CHICKADEE PATROL (a.k.a. Littlest Chickadees) = "The Chickadee Challenge" (W
WDC 181-01) October, 1955
16) CAPTAIN RAMROD (as CP Nest Mother) = "The Chickadee Challenge" (W WDC 181-01)
October, 1955
17) APRIL, MAY & JUNE (as Chickadees) = "Race to Gazer's Point" (W JW 2-04)
August, 1967
18) ALVIN (as JW) = "Peril of the Black Forest" (W JW 6-01) July, 1970 ??
19) NEWTON (as JW) = "Right is Might" (W JW 1-05) August, 1966 or "The New Member"
(W JW 46-02) September, 1977 ??
20) LI'L WOLF (as JW) = "Wolf in Mogul Clothing" (W JW 51-01) August, 1978 ??
21) THREE LITTLE PIGS (as JWs) = "Thanks, But No Thanks" (W MM 113-04) June,
1967 ??
22) GILBERT (as JW) = "The Super Woodchuck" (W JW 39-03) July, 1976
23) BEAGLE BRATS as JWs) = "Pranks in the Ranks" (W JW 3-03) December, 1968
or "The New Recruits" (W JW 34-02) September, 1975 ??
24) BERTIE MCGOOSE (as GM) = "Paperina e il cucciolo imprintato" (I M 5-3) October
1, 1993??
25) CLARISSA VON SCOUT (as CP Nest Mother) = "2 Mogol ...1 cuore" (I GM 1-3) ??
February 1, 1995
The "??" mean I'm not totally certain if these stories are the actual stories in
which they first appear. Help appreciated.
Thanks,
Rich Bellacera
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If anyone has better information or other information, please advise:
25 JUNIOR WOODCHUCK FIRST APPEARANCES:
01) JUNIOR WOODCHUCKS = "Operation St. Bernard" (W WDC 125-02) February, 1951
02) HUEY, DEWEY & LOUIE (as JWs) = "Operation St. Bernard" (W WDC 125-02)
February, 1951
03) Barks' DOGNOSE MOGUL = "Operation St. Bernard" (W WDC 125-02) February, 1951
04) Barks/Carey DUCK-BILL MOGUL = "A Whale of A Good Deed" (W JW 7-01) October,
1970
05) Lockman/Strobl's DOGNOSE MOGUL = "JW Meet the Thing" (W JW 1-02) August, 1966
06) Barks/Wright's BIRDBEAK MOGUL = "Eagle Savers" (W JW 11-02) October, 1971
07) DONALD DUCK (as JW Grand Mogul) = "The Ghost of Woodrew Woodchuck" (W JW 27-
01) July, 1974
08) GYRO GEARLOOSE (as JW Grand Mogul) = ?? (I need to search for this)
09) JW OFFICIAL HANDBOOK = "Secret of Atlantis" (W US 5-02) March, 1954
10) BOLIVAR (as Official JW Hound) = "Operation St. Bernard" (W WDC 125-02)
February, 1951
11) GENERAL SNOZZIE (as Official JW Hound) = "Dodging Miss Daisy" (W WDC 213-01)
June, 1958
12) PLUTO (as Official JW Hound) = "Let Sleeping Bones Lie" (W JW 8-01) January,
1971
13) RUFUS (as Official JW Hound) = "The Tell-Tale Nose" (W BB 41-01) April, 1978
14) LAPO (as Official JW Hound) = "GM Stazione Spaziale" (I GM 10-3) November 1,
1995 ??
15) CHICKADEE PATROL (a.k.a. Littlest Chickadees) = "The Chickadee Challenge" (W
WDC 181-01) October, 1955
16) CAPTAIN RAMROD (as CP Nest Mother) = "The Chickadee Challenge" (W WDC 181-01)
October, 1955
17) APRIL, MAY & JUNE (as Chickadees) = "Race to Gazer's Point" (W JW 2-04)
August, 1967
18) ALVIN (as JW) = "Peril of the Black Forest" (W JW 6-01) July, 1970 ??
19) NEWTON (as JW) = "Right is Might" (W JW 1-05) August, 1966 or "The New Member"
(W JW 46-02) September, 1977 ??
20) LI'L WOLF (as JW) = "Wolf in Mogul Clothing" (W JW 51-01) August, 1978 ??
21) THREE LITTLE PIGS (as JWs) = "Thanks, But No Thanks" (W MM 113-04) June,
1967 ??
22) GILBERT (as JW) = "The Super Woodchuck" (W JW 39-03) July, 1976
23) BEAGLE BRATS as JWs) = "Pranks in the Ranks" (W JW 3-03) December, 1968
or "The New Recruits" (W JW 34-02) September, 1975 ??
24) BERTIE MCGOOSE (as GM) = "Paperina e il cucciolo imprintato" (I M 5-3) October
1, 1993??
25) CLARISSA VON SCOUT (as CP Nest Mother) = "2 Mogol ...1 cuore" (I GM 1-3) ??
February 1, 1995
The "??" mean I'm not totally certain if these stories are the actual stories in
which they first appear. Help appreciated.
Thanks,
Rich Bellacera
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Daniel Van Eijmeren
March 6 1963 Barks letter about Magica
Message 322 -
2003-09-19 at 03:42:04
At Ebay I found the following information. It's fan letter with *two*
inked drawings. Follow the link to see large photo's of the contents.
Carl Barks sent this package to my mother after receiving a fan letter from
her. This auction is for the envelope, letter and two drawings. The artwork
is an approximately 9X11 blue pencil and ink drawing One has a small smear
and the other has what I was told is a coffee stain. The letter reads: Dear
Peggy - Your letter of Feb, 12 to Walt Disney has been sent to me. I am the
guy who writes and draws the Uncle Scrooge Comic books. Also I'm the guy who
invented Magica de Spell. It is pleasing to know somebody likes Magica. I
never know when I invent a character whether the readers will like the
character. So know that I know you like her, I can figure that many others
readers will like her, too. Thanks for the nice letter saying so. I hope you
will like the drawings of Magica that I have made for you. Thanks again for
the interest. Sincerely Carl barks The letter is dated March 6 1963. Please,
contact me if you have any questions.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3239603678&category=1530
--- Dani?l
inked drawings. Follow the link to see large photo's of the contents.
Carl Barks sent this package to my mother after receiving a fan letter from
her. This auction is for the envelope, letter and two drawings. The artwork
is an approximately 9X11 blue pencil and ink drawing One has a small smear
and the other has what I was told is a coffee stain. The letter reads: Dear
Peggy - Your letter of Feb, 12 to Walt Disney has been sent to me. I am the
guy who writes and draws the Uncle Scrooge Comic books. Also I'm the guy who
invented Magica de Spell. It is pleasing to know somebody likes Magica. I
never know when I invent a character whether the readers will like the
character. So know that I know you like her, I can figure that many others
readers will like her, too. Thanks for the nice letter saying so. I hope you
will like the drawings of Magica that I have made for you. Thanks again for
the interest. Sincerely Carl barks The letter is dated March 6 1963. Please,
contact me if you have any questions.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3239603678&category=1530
--- Dani?l
Olivier
March 6 1963 Barks letter about Magica
Message 323 -
2003-09-19 at 12:37:49
Hi!
Mas & Timo:
Thanks for finding the label! Sorry I didn't remember who made it.
Dani?l:
>>> At Ebay I found the following information. It's fan letter with *two*
>>> inked drawings
Splendid drawings. Sad thing he's selling them. A museum of cartoon art
ought to buy them.
Olivier
Mas & Timo:
Thanks for finding the label! Sorry I didn't remember who made it.
Dani?l:
>>> At Ebay I found the following information. It's fan letter with *two*
>>> inked drawings
Splendid drawings. Sad thing he's selling them. A museum of cartoon art
ought to buy them.
Olivier
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Magica de Spell / Magica De Spell
Message 324 -
2003-09-19 at 12:49:12
Someone pointed out to me that my link to the March 6, 1963 letter
at Ebay, gives an answer to how Barks himself spelled Magica's name.
In the letter, and on the foof bomb drawing, Barks spells
"Magica de Spell".
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3239603678&category=1530
I'm curious if Barks was consistent in spelling Magica's name, or did he
change that through the years?
--- Dani?l
at Ebay, gives an answer to how Barks himself spelled Magica's name.
In the letter, and on the foof bomb drawing, Barks spells
"Magica de Spell".
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3239603678&category=1530
I'm curious if Barks was consistent in spelling Magica's name, or did he
change that through the years?
--- Dani?l
Danshane
Sorry about the 'troll' thing
Message 325 -
2003-09-19 at 13:41:53
STEFAN WROTE:
> With all respect, Dan, I believe that you may be barking up the wrong tree
> here. I believe that I know the person who asked the question, and I
> believe that he is genuinely interested in learning other people's opinions
> and seeing the matter discussed. I also believe that he yet is somewhat
> younger than, for example, you or me, but I don't believe that is a reason
> to dismiss him as less "important".
AND I REPLY:
As I said before, if someone proved me wrong I would be quick to apologize, and so I do. I did not recognize the name of the person who posted the question, and it just sounded way too close to a typical baited statement meant to start an argument. I have seen message boards descend into the abyss of name-calling and hurt feelings because of "contests" like the one suggested. I hope the young person who asked the question will accept my regrets and realize that mailing lists and newsgroups can serve a finder purpose than pitting people against one another.
Dan
> With all respect, Dan, I believe that you may be barking up the wrong tree
> here. I believe that I know the person who asked the question, and I
> believe that he is genuinely interested in learning other people's opinions
> and seeing the matter discussed. I also believe that he yet is somewhat
> younger than, for example, you or me, but I don't believe that is a reason
> to dismiss him as less "important".
AND I REPLY:
As I said before, if someone proved me wrong I would be quick to apologize, and so I do. I did not recognize the name of the person who posted the question, and it just sounded way too close to a typical baited statement meant to start an argument. I have seen message boards descend into the abyss of name-calling and hurt feelings because of "contests" like the one suggested. I hope the young person who asked the question will accept my regrets and realize that mailing lists and newsgroups can serve a finder purpose than pitting people against one another.
Dan
Daniel Van Eijmeren
The origin of Uncle Scrooge
Message 326 -
2003-09-19 at 13:46:57
TRISTAN BREIJER, 15-09-2003:
> I recently saw a WWII propaganda cartoon by Disney from 1943 which
> features a character who looked remarkably like Uncle Scrooge, he
> was wearing a kilt and spoke with a Scottish accent had sideburns
> and a cane.
> Does anyone know if Carl Barks created this character or maybe got
> his inspiration from this cartoon?
That must be "The Spirit of '43", of which two pictures are shown in
Marcia Blitz's book on Donald Duck.
As far as I know, this question has never really been answered.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't know when the cartoon was released. If it was in 1943, or 1944,
there might a chance that Barks was still working at the Disney Studio,
when the cartoon was being created and produced.
According to the Carl Barks Library (07B-430), Barks left the Studio on
November 6, 1942. Cartoons to which he contributed, appeared up to 1944.
So, I guess that there might at least be a chance that Barks has seen
something of "The Spirit of '43", before he left the Studio.
Any comments on this are welcome. And again, I might be wrong. However,
I've always thought that the looks of this Scrooge-like character would
have prevented Barks from getting a copyright on Scrooge. That Scottish
duck and Scrooge McDuck look very similar to me, even though it might
just be a coincidence. (The other duck looks a bity like the early
Gladstone to me, by the way.)
But even IF Barks would somehow have used this cartoon as inspiration
for his characters, it would just have been a little spark. Opposed to
some similarities, there are MANY differences. Just try to imagine how
Donald Duck would have been if Barks never existed.
--- Dani?l
> I recently saw a WWII propaganda cartoon by Disney from 1943 which
> features a character who looked remarkably like Uncle Scrooge, he
> was wearing a kilt and spoke with a Scottish accent had sideburns
> and a cane.
> Does anyone know if Carl Barks created this character or maybe got
> his inspiration from this cartoon?
That must be "The Spirit of '43", of which two pictures are shown in
Marcia Blitz's book on Donald Duck.
As far as I know, this question has never really been answered.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't know when the cartoon was released. If it was in 1943, or 1944,
there might a chance that Barks was still working at the Disney Studio,
when the cartoon was being created and produced.
According to the Carl Barks Library (07B-430), Barks left the Studio on
November 6, 1942. Cartoons to which he contributed, appeared up to 1944.
So, I guess that there might at least be a chance that Barks has seen
something of "The Spirit of '43", before he left the Studio.
Any comments on this are welcome. And again, I might be wrong. However,
I've always thought that the looks of this Scrooge-like character would
have prevented Barks from getting a copyright on Scrooge. That Scottish
duck and Scrooge McDuck look very similar to me, even though it might
just be a coincidence. (The other duck looks a bity like the early
Gladstone to me, by the way.)
But even IF Barks would somehow have used this cartoon as inspiration
for his characters, it would just have been a little spark. Opposed to
some similarities, there are MANY differences. Just try to imagine how
Donald Duck would have been if Barks never existed.
--- Dani?l
SRoweCanoe
The origin of Uncle Scrooge
Message 327 -
2003-09-19 at 13:53:54
In a message dated 9/19/2003 6:39:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dve at kabelfoon.nl writes:
That must be "The Spirit of '43", of which two pictures are shown in
Marcia Blitz's book on Donald Duck.
As far as I know, this question has never really been answered.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't know when the cartoon was released. If it was in 1943, or 1944,
the spirit of 43 - was of course released in 43!
the scottish duck and uncle scrooge are both donald with scottish stereotypes
added on
(of course uncle scrooge became a heck of a lot more than that)
sr
dve at kabelfoon.nl writes:
That must be "The Spirit of '43", of which two pictures are shown in
Marcia Blitz's book on Donald Duck.
As far as I know, this question has never really been answered.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't know when the cartoon was released. If it was in 1943, or 1944,
the spirit of 43 - was of course released in 43!
the scottish duck and uncle scrooge are both donald with scottish stereotypes
added on
(of course uncle scrooge became a heck of a lot more than that)
sr
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
The origin of Uncle Scrooge
Message 328 -
2003-09-19 at 14:38:29
DANI?L:
"I've always thought that the looks of [THE SPIRIT OF '43's]
Scrooge-like character would have prevented Barks from getting a copyright
on Scrooge."
You seem to be suggesting that Carl Barks would have liked ownership
of Scrooge for himself. Have you ever read anything about his actual
opinions on the subject?
(Actually, as Barks created Scrooge for a comic story that was
Disney property, it's difficult for me to see how he could have claimed
ownership of the character under any circumstances, even if he had wanted
to...)
David
"I've always thought that the looks of [THE SPIRIT OF '43's]
Scrooge-like character would have prevented Barks from getting a copyright
on Scrooge."
You seem to be suggesting that Carl Barks would have liked ownership
of Scrooge for himself. Have you ever read anything about his actual
opinions on the subject?
(Actually, as Barks created Scrooge for a comic story that was
Disney property, it's difficult for me to see how he could have claimed
ownership of the character under any circumstances, even if he had wanted
to...)
David
Cord Wiljes
AW: The origin of Uncle Scrooge
Message 329 -
2003-09-19 at 15:29:11
DANI?L:
> "I've always thought that the looks of [THE SPIRIT OF '43's]
> Scrooge-like character would have prevented Barks from
> getting a copyright on Scrooge."
David
> You seem to be suggesting that Carl Barks would have
> liked ownership of Scrooge for himself. Have you ever read
> anything about his actual opinions on the subject?
I understood Daniel's comment as an analogy: If Barks had wanted
to copyright Scrooge (which he did not and could not due to his
contract with Western and the similarity to the Disney ducks in
general) he would have run into the problem that a character already
existed which was _very_ similar to his Scrooge McDuck, namely the
duck from Disney's "Spirit of 43s".
Cord
> "I've always thought that the looks of [THE SPIRIT OF '43's]
> Scrooge-like character would have prevented Barks from
> getting a copyright on Scrooge."
David
> You seem to be suggesting that Carl Barks would have
> liked ownership of Scrooge for himself. Have you ever read
> anything about his actual opinions on the subject?
I understood Daniel's comment as an analogy: If Barks had wanted
to copyright Scrooge (which he did not and could not due to his
contract with Western and the similarity to the Disney ducks in
general) he would have run into the problem that a character already
existed which was _very_ similar to his Scrooge McDuck, namely the
duck from Disney's "Spirit of 43s".
Cord
Josef Thörnberg
No subject
Message 330 -
2003-09-19 at 17:50:41
I noticed that some people semed to get uppset by my letter "whos best",i
didnt want to say that anyone of those is bad, i just wandered whos YOUR
favorite disney artist,maybe i said it in a wrong way,
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didnt want to say that anyone of those is bad, i just wandered whos YOUR
favorite disney artist,maybe i said it in a wrong way,
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