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Fabio Blanco
Thanks Santiago... I just would be more happy without Daisy comics. I feel
pain in the feet when I see her with these shoes...

Glorious time: the nephews staring with amazing the place where the money
bin was, in the Don Rosa comic.

FABIO
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar

> Yes, I felt the same the 1st time I read Picsou. Welcome to the World-Wide
> Picsou Readers Elite Group!
>
> ;-)
>
> Santiago.
Don Rosa
> From: Kriton Kyrimis <kyrimis at cti.gr>
> > ...I'd rather be slapped with a wet oolated squigg.
>
> Is there any other kind? :-)

Well, sure! What if oolating a squigg is like kippering a herring? (i.e. a
process of smoking and dehydration.) Being slapped with a wet oolated squigg
would be akin to being whipped with a wet cat-o-nine-tails.
Alex Nielsen
Hello Dani?l,

I have been to the Cels-Galerie in Hamburg a few times, and know they
have really good items, but wasnt aware that they have these items in
commission - thanks for the info !!

You could have just posted the
http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/kommission/ link, since it
contains links and pictures to all the other links :o)

Im trying to log the unique/original art sold at ebay + a few other
sites. Unfortunately its very time consuming, so I might miss a lot of
them. Furthermore, I try to narrow it down to the oil
painting/lithograph preliminaries and such items. Im also listing them
on my website, while only 2 items that sold are listed there right
now... I do have a few others comming up though !
If you have any pointers of which sites to log, and mabe you would share
some of your records, to add to the site, you are quite welcome to
contact me.

My best,
Alex Nielsen
aa.nielsen at mail.tele.dk (also my MSN Messenger address)

www.carlbarks.ws

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Daniel van Eijmeren [mailto:dve at kabelfoon.nl]
Sendt: 14. september 2003 18:25
Til: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Emne: Barks art at Cels Galerie Hamburg

Here are some links to original Barks art. Unfortunately, the
pictures were made with a digital camera instead of a scanner. Among the
pictures, is a photo of a rarely seen Barks's 1997 oil,
and a preliminary, showing Scrooge smokewriting dollar signs.

I apologize for not giving descriptions for the links. If someone else
wants to do that, then *please* go ahead.

Are there people here who are logging unique Barks art at Ebay and other

auction sites? Please let me know. I had to give up more than a year
ago,
so I hope that I wasn't the only one visiting and saving such material.
Again, please let me know!

Main link: http://www.cels-galerie.de/

Originale section: http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/zeichnungen/
http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/zeichnungen/zoom.phtml?cel=792
http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/zeichnungen/zoom.phtml?cel=1068

Kommission section: http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/kommission/
http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/kommission/zoom.phtml?cel=1439
http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/kommission/zoom.phtml?cel=1453
http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/kommission/zoom.phtml?cel=1454
http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/kommission/zoom.phtml?cel=1455
http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/kommission/zoom.phtml?cel=1456
http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/kommission/zoom.phtml?cel=1457
http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/kommission/zoom.phtml?cel=1458
http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/kommission/zoom.phtml?cel=1459
http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/kommission/zoom.phtml?cel=1460
http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/kommission/zoom.phtml?cel=1461
http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/kommission/zoom.phtml?cel=1462
http://www.cels-galerie.de/carl_barks/kommission/zoom.phtml?cel=1463

Thanks to Gerd Syllwasschi for reporting this site and some of it's
contents to me.

--- Dani?l
Tristan B Breijer
Hi

I recently saw a WWII propaganda cartoon by Disney from 1943 which features
a character who looked remarkably like

Uncle Scrooge, he was wearing a kilt and spoke with a Scottish accent had
sideburns and a cane.

Does anyone know if Carl Barks created this character or maybe got his
inspiration from this cartoon?

Kindest Regards

Tristan B Breijer

tbbreijer at hotmail.com
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Here's some information literally taken from Thomas Andrae article
"The Animation Years," published in the Carl Barks Library (07B-424).

Can someone tell me the origin of the quote that has been taken
from "The Fine Art of Walt Disney's Donald Duck" (page 174)? What
is the date? Is it taken from a letter or from an interview, etc.?

- - - - - -

The bevy of girl ducks Barks drew for the mirage sequence in "Lost
Prospectors" anticpates his work on Daisy.

Always concerned with physical and mechanical accuracy, the artist had
trouble conceiving how the standard duck foot could be squeezed into
a lady's high-heeled shoe. "Lord, they're terrible things!" he laughs.
"To make a slipper for Daisy or Magica de Spell, knowing that they
have those flat feet to start out with, I had to throw away the idea
of the flat duck feet and just draw a slender duck leg coming down
into a woman's shoe and never consider what the feet would look like
all rolled up" (quoted in The Fine Art of Walt Disney's Donald Duck,
Scottsdale, AZ and West Plains, MO, Another Rainbow Publishing, Inc.,
1981, page 174).

Another time, the Duck Man added, "They would have to look like
rolled-up newspapers!" (interview by Bruce Hamilton, January 8 1983).

- - - - - -

"Lost Prospectors" (March 1938) is an unproduced Disney cartoon,
with Donald Duck and Gus Goose.

--- Dani?l
L. Schulte
One of the first Disney animators died at 94, Jules Engel. You can find
his obituary at:
http://www.nytimes.com/pages/obituaries/index.html

Also there is an article on DC Comics and the rise of new graphic novels:
http://www.nytimes.com/pages/business/media/index.html

You will have to register with the NY Times to read these articles.

Thought:
Are there any Duck artists interested in doing a "graphic novel" of Uncle
Scrooge or Donald? I suppose in a sense the Life and Time of Scrooge
McDuck is already graphic novel length. Would Gemstone want to reissue
that as a large graphic novel?
YMH
If I may ask a question, then:

Why *do* you draw?

I happen to like your art very much (especially your drawings of Panchito in
THREE CABALLEROS RIDE AGAIN -- I always have preferred the glimmery Studio
eyes to the missing-pie-wedge Barks eyes), but I like your stories even more. And
presumably you can produce quality stories at a far more rapid rate than you
can produce art -- so why not write scripts for other artists to illustrate?
You would be happier because you wouldn't have to go through the tedious
process of illustration, anymore, and we fans would be happier because we would get
many more of your stories. :-)

-Yossi

In a message dated 9/13/2003 6:06:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
donrosa at iglou.com writes:
Or look at me at a convention: I'll sit sometimes for 7 to 10 hours nonstop
drawing for fans. Do I do it because I like drawing? No, I *hate* drawing! I
know some cartoonists like Jim Engel or Sergio Aragones who LOVE to draw 24
hours a day, filling private sketch books "just for fun" -- that mystifies
me! I detest drawing but I like to tell stories.
Hans Kiesl
Timo:

You wrote on Sun, 14 Sep 2003:

> I've seen a map, floor plan of early Hyperion studio on CD-Rom
> "Walt Disney - an Intimate History". It was drawn after
> recollections of old animators. It has detailed placement of
> animator's desks etc. during 1929-30. Animators worked in one big
> room. Ub Iwerks and Floyd Gottfredson sat their backs against
> together. There is also little room, closet even, that has text
> "Comic Strip" and name Win Smith. Is this map published in any
> book?

This map was included in a special issue of the German fanzine
"Der Donaldist", which was entirely devoted to Floyd Gottfredson.
Unfortunately no exact reference is given; it is just stated that this
map was drawn by Floyd Gottfredson for an issue of "Funnyworld".

(Sorry, I don't have any information regarding your other questions.)

-Hans-
Timo Ronkainen
Hans:
>This map was included in a special issue of the German fanzine
>"Der Donaldist", which was entirely devoted to Floyd Gottfredson.

Thanks for the info! Do you mean DD-Sonderheft 27, Gottfredson special?
Could anyone get me a good scan of the map?
Thanks in advance!

Timo

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Cord Wiljes
Timo wrote:
>> I've seen a map, floor plan of early Hyperion studio on CD-Rom
>> "Walt Disney - an Intimate History". It was drawn after
>> recollections of old animators.

Hans wrote:
> This map was included in a special issue of the German fanzine
> "Der Donaldist", which was entirely devoted to Floyd Gottfredson.

I posted info where you can buy this issue to dcml-talk:

[url]http://www.dcml-talk.org/read.php?f=1&i=190&t=190[/url]

Cord
Thorsten Bremer
Moin timo,

> Thanks for the info! Do you mean DD-Sonderheft 27, Gottfredson special?
> Could anyone get me a good scan of the map?

Well, this issue is still available at the publisher :-)

Special price for DCML-readers: 3,13 EUR including shipping in Europe.

http://www.donald.org/de/DD/DDSH/index.html#ddsh27

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Thoddi
Cord Wiljes
Hans wrote:
>>This map was included in a special issue of the German fanzine
>>"Der Donaldist", which was entirely devoted to Floyd Gottfredson.

Timo wrote:
> Could anyone get me a good scan of the map?
> Thanks in advance!

Here it is:
http://www.dcml-talk.org/read.php?f=1&i=191&t=190

Cord
Timo Ronkainen
>Here it is:
>http://www.dcml-talk.org/read.php?f=1&i=191&t=190

Thanks a lot! It was so darned small in that CD-Rom, which I mentioned, that
it was nearly unreadable.
I think I still will buy that Gottfredson special some day pretty soon.

Timo

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Don Rosa
From: YMH at aol.com
>>>>If I may ask a question, then:
Why *do* you draw?

There were no names in this question, but it seems to be addressed to me in
response to my saying that I hate drawing since it's tedious and I never
learned how to do it in the proper smooth & efficient manner necessary to
make it look nice and earn better (in that it's faster) pay.
I draw because I am a self-taught "creator of comics", as opposed to a
"cartoonist" or "artist" which I would be if I had studied the normal way
people approach this stuff. To me, creating a comic is all one process --
writing and drawing it are not separated in my mind, and in fact, the most
important central portion of the process wherein I create the
storyboard-script (essentially a mock-up of the entire comic story) is an
absolute combination of both writing and drawing which could not be done if
I was only a writer or only an artist. At this point I am writing (the
pacing, the dialogue, etc.) as well as drawing (designing the panel lay-out,
camera-angles, lighting effects, poses, expressions, action, etc.). For me,
it's all one process, like walking with both legs. I like to create comic
stories. So, even though one portion of the process is not to my liking, it
still would never occur to me to NOT perform that portion of the process. If
I only did one half of the work and left the other half to some other person
altogether, that would not be creating comics to me. If I didn't want to
walk with my right leg, I wouldn't be walking, I'd be hopping.
I don't know how to explain it. You're asking this of someone who didn't
decide to become a writer or artist or even writer/artist when he was 20 or
10 or even 5, as with someone who studies the various aspects of what they
consider different jobs in the process of making comics. I wanted to create
comic stories since my earliest memory... so my concept of the process is an
abstract thought formed perhaps when I was in the crib drooling on my big
sister's comics.
I'll "create comics" my way as long as I can. If time or physical ability
someday force me to do only the writing (or only the drawing, which seems
less likely), I guess I could do it... but I wouldn't take much pride in
it... and I think I might lose interest in the product. I believe I'd sooner
just quit and start selling my comic book collection and have some REAL
money!
Kai Saarto
YMH at aol.com wrote:

[about Don Rosa not loving the art-part of comic making]

> I happen to like your art very much (especially your drawings of
> Panchito in THREE CABALLEROS RIDE AGAIN -- I always have preferred the
> glimmery Studio eyes to the missing-pie-wedge Barks eyes), but I like
> your stories even more. And presumably you can produce quality stories
> at a far more rapid rate than you can produce art -- so why not write
> scripts for other artists to illustrate? You would be happier because
> you wouldn't have to go through the tedious process of illustration,
> anymore, and we fans would be happier because we would get many more
> of your stories. :-)

Er... what eyes? (I'm showing my ignorance here).

Don doing just the scripts wouldn't be the same. His complex style fits
to his complex writing like a beak to a duck. But Don already explained
his own view of creating comics, so I don't go there.

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- Kai Saarto
http://www.go.to/donrosa
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