Keskustelujen arkisto

>my page www.geocities.com/acsive/rosakalevala shows nokalevala where
>you can see
>a panel. I got a scan of that page if you're interested...
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>STEFAN PERSSON
>>Do you know that the sentences have changed their place with each
>other in
>>pt. 2?
>What do you mean? have changed places? the publisher made a mistake?
>In the danish publciation of Return to forbidden valley, the text
>editor has
>pressed enter one time to many in to bubbles, and a line of text is
>gone!

KA 48 (pt. 1):
"Fortsätt följa finska myter!
Missa inte nästa nummer!"

KA 49 (pt. 2):
"Missa inte nästa nummer!
Fortsätt följa finska myter!"

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I remember panels in different stories (sorry, the names of the
stories escape me) that showed toilets, but I've never seen any references
to actually using one.
Tom

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From: Nils Lid Hjort [mailto:(Email removed)]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 7:52 AM
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Subject: toilets (?!) in Duckburg

Norwegian DD #49 is out on the streets today, with
2nd episode of the Kalevala story and with a nice reprint
of the Christmas 1953 issue (featuring Barks' "You Can't
Guess" from Xmas Parade 1950).

Upon browsing through the other stories I am moderately
surprised by the little girl Wenche, in the "Ready for
New Challenges" story by Pat & Carol McGreal and Esteban.
She shouts to poor Donald:
"I need to go the loo! To the loo!
Now! now! I must, I must! Now!"
A totally familiar situation in all civilisations,
by all means -- but I thought going to the
toilet/bathroom/restroom/loo/WC was on the predefined
list of things never to be discussed in Disney's reports
from life in Duckburg?

(a) Is there such a list, for Disney comics artists and
their publishers? (I've heard once that _fires_ are
not anymore to be discussed, for example. And surely
aspects of sex and (real) death must be out of bounds.)
(b) Have their been earlier instances of or mentioning
of toilets in Disney comics?

Nils Lid Hjort

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Stefan Diös:
>Glad you noticed! Yes, that was the idea... one characteristic of good
>rune-whatever-meter is the "parallelism", which is when you say the same
>thing several times in different ways.

That is, FYI, the hebrew way of writing poetic texts.
Sorry, that was off-topic. I'll shut up now.

I have BTW moved my homepage to a new location
http://members.home.com/vsvendsen/

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"There is an art, it says,
or rather, a knack to flying
The knack lies in learning
how to throw yourself at the ground
and miss"

I might have written that the web-address for my kaelvala uploads was
geoccities.com/acsive.
it's not it's www.geocities.com/donaldist/rosakalevala

A. C. Sivebaek
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Wes Andersen:
> My fingers are crossed as well, but I'm actually more prepared
>to learn a new language instead. Anyone have any suggestions?
>I was going to go with the language of my ancestors, Danish, but
>Don's recent disappointments in their translations changed my mind.

The translations are usually not half bad, except in this case
where a special effort was called for. But to get a wide selection
of Disney books, Danish is a very bad choise. Italian and German
would be better, or you could go for 'European', which appears also
to be useful if you ever go to Paris in the spring time. :-)

Stefan Persson to Oliv:
> >Where is Europe ?
>
> Those are comics produced by Disney Europe, in Paris. Their codes start with
> 'E' for Europe. Those are mostly made after the animated Disney movies.

The 88 pages referred to as the output one year means that two 44 page
stories were made. That's the usual format for these stories, which if
they appear in the US will go under the name 'graphic novels'.
Aren't there btw still *some* Disney titles left, like the Disney
Afternoon or such, where these movie adaptions may appear?

Any truth to the rumor that Bruce Hamilton and Steve Geppi has signed
an agreement on re-launching Disneys in the US btw? And does that mean
that the Disney Company has also accepted, and we're just waiting for
something to actually happen?

Rodney w bowcock jr.:
> While I'm typing, someone on the list recently said that they agreed that
> Barks only did 50 or so outstanding stories. It's been a while since
> we've had new comics here and even then there wasn't a wealth of many of
> the artists spoken of here. But I would say that there are well over 50
> outstanding stories that Barks has done. Nearly *every* DDOS story was
> brilliant, as was the US stories for the first 25 issues or so, and the
> WDC&S stories from around 85-200 were all excellent. Not to mention the
> gems that have been scattered throughout the remaining issues.

I did agree on that, at least on principle, though your list makes me
think the number is on the low side. But then again, I don't really
think that *all* the One Shot adventures are classics of our time.
The first really outstanding story would be "Sheriff of Bullet Valley",
in my opinion of course. The next, "The Golden Christmas Tree" isn't
often referred to as anything but a curiosity. It'll probably be hard
to reach an agreement on which are solid gold nuggets and which are
'only' 18 carat, as it's also the consistently good story telling
that makes the complete works of Barks so interesting, regardless of
which stories happen to be your favorites. It's basically a question
of taking one story, and deciding that it is perfect, and because
all the others are similar, 'true Barksian', they are so too.

> To say
> that there are only 50 outstanding Barks stories seems like blasphemy to
> me, because I can personally say that without Carl Barks I would never
> have continued to read Disney comics. Without Barks, and to a large
> degree Gottfredson, I think *none* of us would be reading Disney comics.
> After all, who would've inspired the current crop of writers and artists
> to write Disney books in the first place?

No disagreement from me there. Well, except perhaps that especially in
Italy there is such a long tradition for Disney stories, that many
current writers and artists are more inspired by their predecessors
than those who inspired *them*. And while everyhere else you can't
talk about classic Disney stories without talking only about Barks,
there are many distinctively different approaches in early Italian
art and storytelling. My point being that you can't simply judge the
merits of a story on a scale from one to ten of 'Barksiness'.
There are other ways to tell stories about Disney characters than Barks'
and usually a writer/artist is best when he/she finds his/her own.

I just got my first set of Another Rainbow's Carl Barks Library today btw!
Gee, am I going to make some quality paper planes out of them. ;-)

oLe
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Hi Folks,

Recently someone (I forgot who it was actually, sorry) asked for World War
II Mickey Mouse strips by Gottfredson available anywhere, as these are very
scarce pieces of artwork. I took the liberty to put scans of "Mickey Mouse
and the Nazi Submarine" (6/28 - 7/17/43, Gottfredson/B.Walsh/D.Moores) on
the net. They can be downloaded at:

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/60

I intend to upload some other interesting things from time to time, I keep
this list informed.

WW (not World War, but WunderWurm)

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Ole wrote: "...to get a wide selection of Disney books, Danish is a very bad choice. Italian and German would be better, or you could go for 'European', which appears also to be useful if you ever go to Paris in the spring time. :-) "

And how does one subscribe to "European" comics? I took a little "European" in college, although I dropped out. My professor said I had a great accent, but lousy vocabulary. Which was disappointing because I always wanted to read Moliere in the original "European." But if not Moliere, then Rosa will do.

-- Wes
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