Keskustelujen arkisto

>Just like Rodney w Bowcock jr. I wonder IF someone not living in Greek
>could subscribe on KOMIX? But something I still don't get. IS KOMIX
>available in both Greek and English or only in one Greek OR English?

Only in Greek.

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HARRY:

> I think the redrawnings are more free interpretations than panel-by-panel
> adaptations.
> They are produced by Egmont, BTW.

All I've heard about this is that at least "Fax of Life" and "A City Under
the Bed" (both drawn by Ferioli, btw) have been re-drawn in manga style.
The artwork for the latter story is by Joaquin, one of the artists atTello
Artwork.

Best,
Per-Erik

Anders:

> KOMIX again.
> So now that we spoke about this mag, we always mention that there are 3
> best mags in Europe. (On which some don't agreee) Komix, ZP and ...
> what?
> Is it/was it I maestri? It could be one of the egmont weeklies, but
> that would certainly not be because of the danish fact-pages...

It definitely was "I Maestri".. but now I really have no idea....

Sprea

The Kalevala story largely appeals to me because the thrills are real and we have no way of figuring out what will happen in the next panel or the next page or the next episode. Whatever Don may say, this is for real! This is truly epic!

The rune-o-meter is very simple in Kalevala, just a meter of 2 x 8 syllables per line, and the syllables alternate stressed - unstressed.

A Finn will find it easier to rhyme in this meter because Finnish always has the stress on the first syllable and the words are structured with endings instead of the use of pronouns. Some words may combine syllables, like 'niemi' which will be two syllables in the meter.

In English a rune-o-meter would go like:

Kalevala! What a story! Hey, Don Rosa, please continue!
We adore you and your stories, cannot have enough of comics,
cannot live without the Duck tales, cannot wait until next issue,
cannot sleep unless you draw more, will accept your drawings only.

Life is shallow for a Duck fan, looking back to golden ages,
when Carl Barks invented Duckburg, filled it with his feathered creatures,
drew and told us wild adventures, made us laugh and made us shiver,
filled our lives with joy and terror, never ceased to entertain us.

Yes, we love reprinted stories. Yes, it's great to have Barks albums.
It is not enough, however. Our weekly should be flowing,
should be ripe with thrills and humour. That occurs so very seldom!
Only Rosa makes me burst out, makes me pant, ignites my laughter.

Please, our hero, story-teller, Ilmarinen of the comics,
you, the gifted sage of Duckburg, be like Vainamoinen to us!
Sing yet more, forge bits together, grind your never-ending Sampo!
Add your brilliant epic wonders to the Duckburg Kalevala!

Geir Hasnes

If anyone's interested in trading an any language copy of "KALEVALA", I've
got a Don Rosa's Comics & Stories #2 and the Comics Journal #87 that Don did
the cover of available. I'm betting this story won't be appearing in the US
any time soon.

Email me off list,

Mike Rhode

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Hey, Geir Hasnes, perfect timing!
Though your poems are not rhyming.
Sunday, Sinterklaas is giving
Presents to the people living
in my country and in Belgium
While the rest will have to wait for
yet another 20 days more.

With the presents, texts are written
Often rhyming, for enjoyment
It's tradition here in Holland.

This year, I'm not celebrating
Sinterklaas with other people
So your poem's very welcome
to replace the Sinterklaas ones!

Now the only thing that's missing
is a nice Don Rosa story
We will have to wait, I'm fearing
yet another 6 months, maybe...

--Harry.
(I gave up trying rhyming after "Belgium" 8-)

Speaking of that Finnish Kalevala book of mine, I think I said it was in
its second printing? I need to correct that -- I just learned that it is
currently in its FOURTH PRINTING. That's *50,000* copies sold since only
the second week of November, a little over 3 weeks. That's equivalent to a
sale of about three million copies in America. And it's still new with the
Xmas season just begun.
Whooaa.

All this bickering about KOMIX is interesting (but leave us not get
hostile).

What are the criteria for a superb Disney comic. Two things that you cannot
take into consideration are the language it is written in and whether the
stories are new or reprints. Most of the Disney comics in the world are
reprints from old American editions or Italy or Egmont. Some publishers
don't even have a license to *do* anything but reprint! And the first time
a story is used is certainly not, by any stretch of the imagination,
necessarilly the *best* printed version that story will see. Paper quality
is not even important -- I prefer the way colors sink in to the cheaper
paper, like in ZIO PAPERONE or the old Dell comics. I think the way color
sticks to the surface of glossy paper is garish and hides or overpowers the
art.
The criteria, to me, for a superb comic is:
A) Excellent design of covers and interior. (That needs no explanation,
eh?)
B) Editorial pages that show respect for both the readers and the material.
These should be written on an adult level... that will please the adults,
yet not alienate the kiddies who can simply skip those pages. These pages
can be original and/or also a knowledgeable selection of quality writings
from other sources about the history of the stories, writers and artists.
Comics can be done simultaneously for both children and adults. This is
proven by the way a good children's movie, with attention to detail and
quality that no average child would notice, will appeal to both the chidren
*and* the adults, doubling or tripling its success. (And believe me, lots
of smart children know quality and *like* it when they are not being talked
down to. And besides, what's wrong with raising children on quality
entertainment rather than what we do to 'em in America?)
C) Good *coloring*! Good coloring, applied by an artist rather than a
computer technician, adds *so much* to the drama and mood of a story,
perhaps improving the work 100%. An imaginative colorist acts as part
writer when he/she applies the colors with an eye to drama rather than
simply trying to fill spaces as fast as possible.
D) Good PRINTING. This means NOT COMPUTERIZED printing which eliminates
fine detail and thickens what is left, making the result muddy looking.
Printing of comic art should be by good ol' fashioned lithography, like
comics of the past, where every line prints just as it was drawn. I'll
happily accept digitized printing when they decide to do it with a fine
enough dot-screen or scan-line (or whatever) that doesn't make me moan when
I look at the results and cry about how much of my work is being lost
inside some @#$% computer somewhere.
E) Good lettering. That means hand-lettering (or a computer-font to
simulate it, though that will never be quite as nice as the real thing). A
page of comic art should be 100% made-by-hand. This is even more important
as regards background signage and sound effects. As with coloring, good
sound-effects lettering improves the impact or drama of a sound by an
immeasurable amount (is it loud? is it quiet? is it waivering? etc.).
Lettering should not look like it was done by a child with a marking pen.
Good lettering is like a good musical score in a movie. Imagine CITIZEN
KANE with music written by a child and played by a high school band. Even
it might suffer a tad. (A LOT!)
F)A respect for the writers and artists of the stories and a sincere
interest in their intentions, rather than an idea that these stories fall
off trees somewhere and are the raw material for the whims and ideas of the
editors to be inserted. And the fact is that the stories will be better and
more enjoyable when someone works with the creators of the stories (whether
new or reprint, both is possible, we're not all dead) to present the
stories in the best manner possible. Everyone benefits.

And my three nominations for the best Disney comics on the earth (and a few
other categories) are, in alphabetical order:
1) PICSOU
2) KOMIX
3) ZIO PAPERONE

Hall of Fame:
1) Everything from Gladstone
2) I Maestri Disney

Life Achievement Award / Sentimental Favorite:
1) DELL!!!!!!!!

And finally........................
Thank you, Geir!!! I actually almost wept when I read your Kalevalian poem!
That was very nice. (And you're not even getting paid to do it like a
translator would be!)
By the way, Harry, Kalevalian rune-o-meter is not supposed to rhyme, but
yours was great also.