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AA> Also can you tell me how could you now the artists who drew
AA> each comic ?

AF> You must have noticed that most Donald Duck stories have
AF> several different
AF> "styles" in drawing. Once you're familiar with the styles,
AF> you can assume
AF> that other story which has same style in drawing must be
AF> drawn by the same person.

A recommended website for examples of the various art styles is
http://www.raptus.dk/ .

AF> (i think there
AF> hasn't been a female duck artist before or am i wrong:-)

You are wrong! There have been dozens of female inkers, and a few
pencillers/artists too - for instance Wilma van den Bosch, Marga Querol.

SP> Fethry Duck: Donald's other cousin
AF> Who is this? I never heard of him before. Certainly not one of Barks'
AF> creations, right? Is he the same as "Popo"?

Probably, since Fethry's French name is "Popop". See
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/fethry.html for a short
description and a picture.

--Harry.

>From: Francois Willot <(Email removed)>
>
>Stefan Persson:
>
> > AR Another Rainbow (Gladstone), USA
> > B Brazil
> > D Egmont, Denmark
> > D N Egmont Japan, Japan
> > E Disney Europe, Paris, France
> > F Hachette, France
> > G Ehapa, Germany
> > H De Geïllustreerde Pers/Oberon, Holland
> > I Mondadori, Italy
> > KF, KFS King Features Syndicate, USA (newspaper stips)
> > P, PM Mondadori, Italy (from Paperino Mese)
> > S, X Disney Studio, USA
>
>Good list, but it is strange that you list "P, PM". Actually, this is
>just one of the subsets of the I-production (the right codes being "I PM
>something").
>And listing all subsets of all know production would be very long!
>
>H-publisher now is "VNU" (at least on the comics).
>I-publisher now is "Disney Italia".
>"KF" looks like the printed code used in Egmont publications.
>"K" is the official code of stories produced in the US by "Disney
>Comics" in 1990-92 or so. That's why a different letter is used, I
>think, in the Disney database (Y or Z).

The person who asked about this, asked what the printed codes in the
magazines meant. So it should be KF/KFS. And sometimes it is written P.100,
PM 100 or something like that (without the I).
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I'm sorry. i dopuble check the list and i see the KFS code. Guess i was a
bit sleepy and not concetrate enough when i wrote that mail.

Sorry,
Arie Fachrisal:-)

Well..i don?t know how to thank you Stefan, you gave a tanker of
information which I?ll never forget, but how could you know the artist
name like Don Rosa and others?
And I would like to ask Don this Q, if I want to be a comics artist,
what have I to study? And have I to be gifted or I can just learn by
practicing.

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I am hoping that someone on the list here can purchase a copy of
the German MICKY MAUS #1-2000 (Kalevala cover) for me. This
comic was mentioned lately and I hope it has not been sold yet
or is still available. I am willing to trade, barter, pay cash or just
beg! I have gained much respect for 'foreign' examples of Don's=20
work in the last year or so. Please contact me privately by e-mail.
Gary Pantzer
Oneida, New York USA
(Email removed)

> AF> (i think there
> AF> hasn't been a female duck artist before or am i wrong:-)
>
Harry
> You are wrong! There have been dozens of female inkers, and a few
> pencillers/artists too - for instance Wilma van den Bosch, Marga Querol.
Ooops, my mistake then. But are those names duck artists or colorists? Some
female colorists i know are Susan Daigle-Leach and Linda Monez. Those 2
names you gave me, i really never heard of them before. Wonder where can i
find info about them.

> SP> Fethry Duck: Donald's other cousin
> AF> Who is this? I never heard of him before. Certainly not one of Barks'
> AF> creations, right? Is he the same as "Popo"?
>
> Probably, since Fethry's French name is "Popop". See
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/fethry.html for a short
> description and a picture.
Oh, thanks. That's right, "Popop". Anyway i think he doesn't belong to "my"
duck-world. He just aint "right" for the duck stories. Not enough certain
characteristics about him that interests me. i should say that i think most
stories with Popop in 'em are just so-so, sorry to all Popop fans out there.

Best,
Arie Fachrisal:-)

From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek"
>>>>What is the right guess then? or is that guy just referring to a story
you haven't written

(re: the "second biggest frog I have ever seen" comment in the Kalevala
story)... this referred to noting, it was just supposed to be a silly
remark made by a burned-out hippie or such. What frog could be bigger?
Haha. Big gag. But so many people have asked me what that meant that I wish
I had skipped it. It actually was a in-joke to myself (which I often do)
referring to a TV show tag-line of the 60s. I *never* expected anyone to
know that.
But when I was doing the Internet chat in Finland, some "caller" again
asked what the gag meant, and I just said "nothing, it meant nothing". Then
I whispered to someone at the computer-lab that it actually was a injoke
for myself referring to a line frequently heard in the mid-60s on a TV
series called "Get Smart", had they ever heard of it, and they had no idea
what I was talking about. But while I was saying that, the words were
appearing on the monitor, a response from the chat-caller, saying "I
thought maybe it was a Maxwell Smart joke." And that was the single
happiest instant of my whole trip to Finland -- I exploded! To think
someone waaaay over in Finland in 1999 would spot a personal in-joke I made
to my own TV viewing of 35 years earlier!!! THIS is why I'll never stop
putting in obscure in-gags that practically no one will catch. The gags are
not for everyone, just the 1 or 2 people on earth who spot it. That makes
it worthwhile. Even more worthwhile than if everyone caught it. My stories
are for the few, not for everyone -- I like it that way.

> Nowhere do I have V. asking $crooge if he wants to go relive
> the Klondike days with him. Izzat what it sez in Danish???
>>>Scrooge just says "Yukon?" I'm the one going out of that line. a wrong
line that is. A lost love awaits him, so that's why he says Yukon...

No, no, no. You're getting this all confused. Please tell me exactly what
is said in that translation. In my original script, Vainemoinen says that
he and $crooge share a love of a beautiful land of ice and snow, to which
$crooge says "The Yukon?". Then (*afterwards*) Vainy says that a lost love
awaits $crooge in his own Kalevala. $crooge does NOT say "Yukon" in reply
to that. Is that NOT the order in which your translator has my dialogue???
Lawrd, I hope so. I get tired worrying about how key moments of dialogue
and meaning are being screwed up here!

From: Abdulmonem Abbas
>>>>And I would like to ask Don this Q, if I want to be a comics artist,
what have I to study? And have I to be gifted or I can just learn by
practicing.

No one is "gifted" with a "talent". Everything comes from inspiration and
long, long, long practice. Assuming you think I do good comics, the reasons
I do so are because I watched a LOT of movies and TV and read a LOT of
comics when I was a kid, and I spent most of my spare time drawing comic
book stories for my own amusement. If I had ever taken the stuff seriously,
considered doing it for a living, I would have drawn even *more* and
studied it seriously as a profession, then I would certainly draw much
better than I do (I think my art is often "inspired" and effective, but not
technically very good).
Not infrequently people say to me "Gosh I wish I could draw!" And I ask why
they can't. And they say, "Oh, I don't have any talent! I tried drawing
when I was a kid, but it looked awful, so I quit." And I'll say, "I tried
drawing when I was a kid, and it looked awful, too. But I *didn't* quit. I
didn't care how it looked, it was still fun." And there's the difference. I
had, for whatever unknowable reasons, more interest and inspiration than
this other person did, so I just kept drawing until I slowly got better
after many, many years of piddling. And if I'd stuck with it even harder
and more seriously, I would have gotten lots better yet. And that's the way
it is with anything you do, draw, write, compose music, etc., etc.
I think when someone claims that people draw well because they are born
with "talent" is both an insult to the artist and the claimant -- it
suggests that the artist did not have to work a lifetime to become as
skilled as he is, and it suggests that the speaker was incapable of doing
just as good if he had really tried long enough.
So, if you think you'd like to be an artist, just practice. And if you want
to be a something more than a mere artist... a "cartoonist" (someone who
tells stories with drawings), watch lotsa old movies and read lotsa old
comics. (I say "old" because I don't think you can become a good
storyteller based on a background strictly of modern American movies, with
their utter disconcern with logic or pacing, or from modern American comics
with their lack of plots and characterisation and humor. Those are lost
arts.)

In a message dated 12/19/99 6:00:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
(Email removed) writes:

> TW, while i'm here, may i ask a question. Several DCML mails ago, someone
> brought up the topic U$ 179 which sold for $1500+
> Can someone please tell me what's the special thing in the book that carry
> up the price so high? And what are the stories in the book anyway???

There is nothing in the book that makes it special. However it is the
hardest one in the series to find. Poorly distributed in the USA. I would
have to guess that someone paying that much for it,probably has all the other
issues, and has had them for years - and just has to have this poorly printed
reprint comic to complete his collection!

Steven Rowe (ask me about my Felix the Cat mailing list)