Hi, SRowe an Vic (an all)!
> any SUPER DUCK fans out there? Or anyone with any
> > information
> > about BUGS BUNNY comics in the early fifties?
> >
>
> Can't say that I am a fan per-say of Super Duck, but I do know a little about
> him. and ths same with the Bugs comics; so go ahead and ask your questions.
My feeling is very close to Steven's one... I dislike Super Duck (but I've some
comics of him). Differentli, for me the "Looney Tunes" comics (and also MGM,
Lantz, and so on).
Go on!
Luca
Author
Topic: 199912
(374 messages)
Luca Boschi
Super Duck and others...
Message 31 -
1999-12-03 at 01:36:33
Robert J. Davidek
U$ 179
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Bror.Hellman
Quest for Kalevala
Message 33 -
1999-12-03 at 09:51:57
Stefan persson wrote:
[About Swedish verison of Kalevala]
> The translator has done a very well work translating the story.
Hehe... Stefan, did you get that?
You *are* very good. ;-)
Steamboat Willie
[About Swedish verison of Kalevala]
> The translator has done a very well work translating the story.
Hehe... Stefan, did you get that?
You *are* very good. ;-)
Steamboat Willie
Stefan Persson
Disney comics in Japanese?
Message 34 -
1999-12-03 at 13:53:55
>Does anybody know whether there exist any Japanese editions of Disney
>comics? I'm not interested in whether they have a local production (I'm
>pretty sure they don't), just in whether any comics with reprints of
>western (US or European) stories exist, with the balloons lettered in
>Japanese.
Egmont Japan publishes Disney comics in manga style, that are made in Japan.
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>comics? I'm not interested in whether they have a local production (I'm
>pretty sure they don't), just in whether any comics with reprints of
>western (US or European) stories exist, with the balloons lettered in
>Japanese.
Egmont Japan publishes Disney comics in manga style, that are made in Japan.
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Anders Christian Sivebaek
Komix, Kalevalas and norwegian Rosa-book
Message 35 -
1999-12-03 at 13:59:59
KOMIX
you/I certainly started a discussion here... well, I myself bought
myself poor in those
Komix, that I can't even read... I just like the comic, and I like to
have full versions of Barks-stories (unlike the way Gutenberghus and
now Egmont sometimes prints them!!). I wouldn't say that a danish book
with only reprints would be good, but it seems to be very popular and
become expensive as old issues in Greece. Greece has other comics too,
Miky Maus and Klassika and Megalo Miky that prints new stories. Also
the editors are very nice, and put Barks and Rosa on the top. Before
Komix started, no average reader knew Barks as I understand it. How
should they, when the Miky didn't write credits then. Of course some
readers found american issues, and thereby got to know those.
Kriton
> If the Danes got this wrong, I shudder to think what will happen when
> KOMIX gets around to printing that story, since both the language and
> the story context are totally foreign to us. :-(
I'm not sure they got it wrong. they just have the most amature-like
transaltor in all Scandinavia. I hear now, that Anders And is the only
mag here that didn't make the rune-o-meter or the font as they
should... The dialogues is fun as always, anyway... The only comics
I've been laughing at in the train, and disturbing my fellow
passengers, was danish Rosa-comics... because of the great dialogue. i
have to let the translator have that. And they did make an effort to
*translate* some fact-pages from norwegian...
Georgios
> I have seen the "KALEVALA" story (thanks to my Finnish pal J.)
Our friend J. is a nice fellow, isn't he?
Stefan Persson
> The Norwegeian Don Rosa book is a book that contains comics made by
Don Rosa
> before he started to draw Disney comics. I've heard that it should be
in
> English.
Would you know if it's out yet??
> The last part will be published next Friday in Sweden.
I can't seem to understand the publication policy in Scandinavia... on
the home-pages it seems that part 1 is out in the remaining 3
countries... But I have to wait till thursday to buy the 2nd part...
> Is it true that a page is missing from the book, or was it just
something
> you invented?
There's not a page missing from the book, there's an extra page, as i
understood it.
a possible missing page could be two examples as of how the
splash-panels would look in the other publications. the finnish one is
a one-parter as you might know.
> The only bad thing is the colouring of the story. Why can't
> Egmont do as good colouring as the French publishers?
That is not only the only problem, that's the always returning
problem... It seems they use
a colouring method that is called flood fill! They aren't able to make
a colur change from the top of the panel to the bottom (skies eg.).
Picsou and other mags do that... Picsou does it very nice with the new
story the Coin.
KOMIX again.
So now that we spoke about this mag, we always mention that there are 3
best mags in Europe. (On which some don't agreee) Komix, ZP and ...
what?
Is it/was it I maestri? It could be one of the egmont weeklies, but
that would certainly not be because of the danish fact-pages...
AC
you/I certainly started a discussion here... well, I myself bought
myself poor in those
Komix, that I can't even read... I just like the comic, and I like to
have full versions of Barks-stories (unlike the way Gutenberghus and
now Egmont sometimes prints them!!). I wouldn't say that a danish book
with only reprints would be good, but it seems to be very popular and
become expensive as old issues in Greece. Greece has other comics too,
Miky Maus and Klassika and Megalo Miky that prints new stories. Also
the editors are very nice, and put Barks and Rosa on the top. Before
Komix started, no average reader knew Barks as I understand it. How
should they, when the Miky didn't write credits then. Of course some
readers found american issues, and thereby got to know those.
Kriton
> If the Danes got this wrong, I shudder to think what will happen when
> KOMIX gets around to printing that story, since both the language and
> the story context are totally foreign to us. :-(
I'm not sure they got it wrong. they just have the most amature-like
transaltor in all Scandinavia. I hear now, that Anders And is the only
mag here that didn't make the rune-o-meter or the font as they
should... The dialogues is fun as always, anyway... The only comics
I've been laughing at in the train, and disturbing my fellow
passengers, was danish Rosa-comics... because of the great dialogue. i
have to let the translator have that. And they did make an effort to
*translate* some fact-pages from norwegian...
Georgios
> I have seen the "KALEVALA" story (thanks to my Finnish pal J.)
Our friend J. is a nice fellow, isn't he?
Stefan Persson
> The Norwegeian Don Rosa book is a book that contains comics made by
Don Rosa
> before he started to draw Disney comics. I've heard that it should be
in
> English.
Would you know if it's out yet??
> The last part will be published next Friday in Sweden.
I can't seem to understand the publication policy in Scandinavia... on
the home-pages it seems that part 1 is out in the remaining 3
countries... But I have to wait till thursday to buy the 2nd part...
> Is it true that a page is missing from the book, or was it just
something
> you invented?
There's not a page missing from the book, there's an extra page, as i
understood it.
a possible missing page could be two examples as of how the
splash-panels would look in the other publications. the finnish one is
a one-parter as you might know.
> The only bad thing is the colouring of the story. Why can't
> Egmont do as good colouring as the French publishers?
That is not only the only problem, that's the always returning
problem... It seems they use
a colouring method that is called flood fill! They aren't able to make
a colur change from the top of the panel to the bottom (skies eg.).
Picsou and other mags do that... Picsou does it very nice with the new
story the Coin.
KOMIX again.
So now that we spoke about this mag, we always mention that there are 3
best mags in Europe. (On which some don't agreee) Komix, ZP and ...
what?
Is it/was it I maestri? It could be one of the egmont weeklies, but
that would certainly not be because of the danish fact-pages...
AC
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
On KOMIX--Once more!
Message 36 -
1999-12-03 at 14:06:23
SØREN:
>What exactly makes it (i.e. KOMIX) so exquisite then? (except from the
articles and
>the glossy paper) If a comic is supposed to have an over-all interest to
>the world, it should appeal to as many as possible, but your KOMIX
>doesn't, and it was never intended to do so. Perhaps I am wrong, perhaps
>the rest of Europe loves to read Barks' stories in Greek--in that case I
>apologize.
What's really amazing about KOMIX is that while it's designed to appeal to
its Greek readership and never intending to appeal to the rest of the world
(how else could it be?--it's in a language that only ~15 million people
speak in the world), its actual appeal greatly surpasses the Greek borders.
In all honesty, you're the *only* person to make such blant statements about
KOMIX's non-appeal that I've witnessed so far. And what's worse, you seem to
take your own views as evidence as to what the rest of the people think. The
comments on this very List by other people on that matter (Don Rosa being
one of them) and the tens of people worldwide that can't decipher a single
Greek word to whom I've been sending KOMIX in the past 3 years, is
persuasive enough evidence that your views on KOMIX's worldwide appeal
represent mainly yourself.
Tell us then: according to you, which are the top 3 Disney publications in
the world today?
What criteria would you use? If original stories is your only and primary
criterion, then as far as I know, only two companies consistently produce
today brand-new stories: Disney Italia and Egmont. Still, I never heard
concerted and consistent praises for either Topolino or the Egmont weeklies.
RODNEY:
>KOMIX is unquestionably one of the greatest Disney comics I've ever seen.
> Every issue is put together with such care that its amazing. Any
>members who haven't seen any copies of this book are enthusiastically
>urged to get some. I'm currently getting current issues from a fellow
>DCML member. But, does anyone know if a person in the US can subscribe
>to this book and how much it would cost?
I wonder what's in KOMIX that Rodney (a non-Greek) can see, while Søren
cannot!!! :-)))
Yes, KOMIX offers international subscriptions. I asked them about this only
2 days ago so I can offer one as a gift to a friend of mine: they charge
double the Greek subscription rate, or 13,200 drachmas (that's ~$40) for an
annual, 12-issue subscription. Anyone who might want to see recent Rosa
stories in the great KOMIX format (I know this doesn't include you, Søren!
:-))), be advised that during 2000 KOMIX will devote 10 out of its 12 issues
to Rosa. I heard this directly from KOMIX's editorial office.
I'll come back with the address on Monday--subscribing is easy since they
accept all major credit cards.
Cheers,
Archontis
>What exactly makes it (i.e. KOMIX) so exquisite then? (except from the
articles and
>the glossy paper) If a comic is supposed to have an over-all interest to
>the world, it should appeal to as many as possible, but your KOMIX
>doesn't, and it was never intended to do so. Perhaps I am wrong, perhaps
>the rest of Europe loves to read Barks' stories in Greek--in that case I
>apologize.
What's really amazing about KOMIX is that while it's designed to appeal to
its Greek readership and never intending to appeal to the rest of the world
(how else could it be?--it's in a language that only ~15 million people
speak in the world), its actual appeal greatly surpasses the Greek borders.
In all honesty, you're the *only* person to make such blant statements about
KOMIX's non-appeal that I've witnessed so far. And what's worse, you seem to
take your own views as evidence as to what the rest of the people think. The
comments on this very List by other people on that matter (Don Rosa being
one of them) and the tens of people worldwide that can't decipher a single
Greek word to whom I've been sending KOMIX in the past 3 years, is
persuasive enough evidence that your views on KOMIX's worldwide appeal
represent mainly yourself.
Tell us then: according to you, which are the top 3 Disney publications in
the world today?
What criteria would you use? If original stories is your only and primary
criterion, then as far as I know, only two companies consistently produce
today brand-new stories: Disney Italia and Egmont. Still, I never heard
concerted and consistent praises for either Topolino or the Egmont weeklies.
RODNEY:
>KOMIX is unquestionably one of the greatest Disney comics I've ever seen.
> Every issue is put together with such care that its amazing. Any
>members who haven't seen any copies of this book are enthusiastically
>urged to get some. I'm currently getting current issues from a fellow
>DCML member. But, does anyone know if a person in the US can subscribe
>to this book and how much it would cost?
I wonder what's in KOMIX that Rodney (a non-Greek) can see, while Søren
cannot!!! :-)))
Yes, KOMIX offers international subscriptions. I asked them about this only
2 days ago so I can offer one as a gift to a friend of mine: they charge
double the Greek subscription rate, or 13,200 drachmas (that's ~$40) for an
annual, 12-issue subscription. Anyone who might want to see recent Rosa
stories in the great KOMIX format (I know this doesn't include you, Søren!
:-))), be advised that during 2000 KOMIX will devote 10 out of its 12 issues
to Rosa. I heard this directly from KOMIX's editorial office.
I'll come back with the address on Monday--subscribing is easy since they
accept all major credit cards.
Cheers,
Archontis
Stefan Persson
Disney comics in Japanese?
Message 37 -
1999-12-03 at 14:08:53
>From: (Email removed)
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: SV: Disney comics in Japanese?
>Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:03:26 +0100
>
>
>
> > Egmont Japan publishes Disney comics in manga style, that are
> > made in Japan.
>
>
>Where can you subscribe?
>
>
>
> Steamboat Willie
>
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>Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:03:26 +0100
>
>
>
> > Egmont Japan publishes Disney comics in manga style, that are
> > made in Japan.
>
>
>Where can you subscribe?
>
>
>
> Steamboat Willie
>
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Frank Stajano
Disney comics in Japanese?
Message 38 -
1999-12-03 at 14:10:43
At 1999-12-03 12:53 +0100, Stefan Persson wrote:
>>Does anybody know whether there exist any Japanese editions of Disney
>>comics? I'm not interested in whether they have a local production (I'm
>>pretty sure they don't), just in whether any comics with reprints of
>>western (US or European) stories exist, with the balloons lettered in Japanese.
>Egmont Japan publishes Disney comics in manga style, that are made in Japan.
That's interesting! Where should I write to buy some copies mail order?
But again: even more interesting for me would be Japanese reprints of
classical (say: Barks) stories that I already have; any news on that?
Basically I'm looking for a Japanese version of something I am already very
familiar with, so that I can attempt to decipher the Japanese script helped
by the knowledge of what it "should" say.
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
>>Does anybody know whether there exist any Japanese editions of Disney
>>comics? I'm not interested in whether they have a local production (I'm
>>pretty sure they don't), just in whether any comics with reprints of
>>western (US or European) stories exist, with the balloons lettered in Japanese.
>Egmont Japan publishes Disney comics in manga style, that are made in Japan.
That's interesting! Where should I write to buy some copies mail order?
But again: even more interesting for me would be Japanese reprints of
classical (say: Barks) stories that I already have; any news on that?
Basically I'm looking for a Japanese version of something I am already very
familiar with, so that I can attempt to decipher the Japanese script helped
by the knowledge of what it "should" say.
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
Fluks, H.W.
On KOMIX--Twice more!
Message 39 -
1999-12-03 at 14:21:18
Archontis (to Soeren):
> Tell us then: according to you, which are the top 3 Disney
> publications in the world today?
Yeah.. I'm very curious about that!
The Dutch weekly probably isn't in it, since Soeren can't read Dutch. 8-)
> as far as I know, only two companies consistently produce
> today brand-new stories: Disney Italia and Egmont.
FYI: Holland and France also produce new stories "consistently". And very
good ones, too. I'm sure the Dutch weekly would be in the top-3 of best
current Disney comics - if it were written in Danish or English...
--Harry.
(Owner of a KOMIX issue)
> Tell us then: according to you, which are the top 3 Disney
> publications in the world today?
Yeah.. I'm very curious about that!
The Dutch weekly probably isn't in it, since Soeren can't read Dutch. 8-)
> as far as I know, only two companies consistently produce
> today brand-new stories: Disney Italia and Egmont.
FYI: Holland and France also produce new stories "consistently". And very
good ones, too. I'm sure the Dutch weekly would be in the top-3 of best
current Disney comics - if it were written in Danish or English...
--Harry.
(Owner of a KOMIX issue)
Frank Stajano
Disney comics in Japanese?
Message 40 -
1999-12-03 at 14:28:49
At 1999-12-03 13:10 +0000, Francois Willot wrote:
>Barks stories are published in Japan, but these are redrawn in manga
>style.
Bleah ;-)
Manga is fine in itself, but redrawing I always find perverse.
Anyway, if at least it were a panel-for-panel redrawing (à la
Jippes-vs-Strobl for the JW stories), I might still be able to
half-sensibly compare them with the originals.
Any idea on where to get those editions you mention?
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
>Barks stories are published in Japan, but these are redrawn in manga
>style.
Bleah ;-)
Manga is fine in itself, but redrawing I always find perverse.
Anyway, if at least it were a panel-for-panel redrawing (à la
Jippes-vs-Strobl for the JW stories), I might still be able to
half-sensibly compare them with the originals.
Any idea on where to get those editions you mention?
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
Fluks, H.W.
Disney comics in Japanese?
Message 41 -
1999-12-03 at 14:43:58
Fran [k | cois]:
> >Barks stories are published in Japan, but these are redrawn in manga
> >style.
>
> Bleah ;-)
> Anyway, if at least it were a panel-for-panel redrawing, I might still
> be able to half-sensibly compare them with the originals.
I think the redrawnings are more free interpretations than panel-by-panel
adaptations.
They are produced by Egmont, BTW.
> Any idea on where to get those editions you mention?
Maybe Egmont in Copenhagen can send copies on request?
--Harry.
> >Barks stories are published in Japan, but these are redrawn in manga
> >style.
>
> Bleah ;-)
> Anyway, if at least it were a panel-for-panel redrawing, I might still
> be able to half-sensibly compare them with the originals.
I think the redrawnings are more free interpretations than panel-by-panel
adaptations.
They are produced by Egmont, BTW.
> Any idea on where to get those editions you mention?
Maybe Egmont in Copenhagen can send copies on request?
--Harry.
Søren Krarup Olesen
On KOMIX--Once more!
Message 42 -
1999-12-03 at 14:50:59
ARCHONTIS:
> In all honesty, you're the *only* person to make such blant statements about
> KOMIX's non-appeal that I've witnessed so far. And what's worse, you seem to
> take your own views as evidence as to what the rest of the people think. The
> comments on this very List by other people on that matter (Don Rosa being
> one of them) and the tens of people worldwide that can't decipher a single
> Greek word to whom I've been sending KOMIX in the past 3 years, is
> persuasive enough evidence that your views on KOMIX's worldwide appeal
> represent mainly yourself.
Yes, everything I write is always "in my opinion". The fact that you
only can refer to people who loves KOMIX isn't surprising. Noone who
owns say 100 KOMIX would also claim that he or she really don't like the
magazine--that wouldn't make sense. I happened to get the two issues by
a coincidence, and apart from the articles which I can't read, there is
1) Nothing new and 2) Nothing I can't find in (to me readable) Danish in
one or more versions.
> Tell us then: according to you, which are the top 3 Disney publications in
> the world today?
I don't know, Archontis, but since you do, why go on with this
discussion?!
> What criteria would you use? If original stories is your only and primary
> criterion,[...]
I am happy to see you put the "If" there. Of course I wouldn't prefere
magazines with only new material. In fact I would like to see more old
Italian pocket material here in Denmark, just not "old" in the sense of
"having seen and read much too often", because that is *boring*!
> then as far as I know, only two companies consistently produce
> today brand-new stories: Disney Italia and Egmont. Still, I never heard
> concerted and consistent praises for either Topolino or the Egmont weeklies.
I don't think any media can produce "news" that get consistent praises.
That's the price such medias have to pay. Both Topolino and the Egmont's
are probably still some of the best weeklies in the world.
Søren
> In all honesty, you're the *only* person to make such blant statements about
> KOMIX's non-appeal that I've witnessed so far. And what's worse, you seem to
> take your own views as evidence as to what the rest of the people think. The
> comments on this very List by other people on that matter (Don Rosa being
> one of them) and the tens of people worldwide that can't decipher a single
> Greek word to whom I've been sending KOMIX in the past 3 years, is
> persuasive enough evidence that your views on KOMIX's worldwide appeal
> represent mainly yourself.
Yes, everything I write is always "in my opinion". The fact that you
only can refer to people who loves KOMIX isn't surprising. Noone who
owns say 100 KOMIX would also claim that he or she really don't like the
magazine--that wouldn't make sense. I happened to get the two issues by
a coincidence, and apart from the articles which I can't read, there is
1) Nothing new and 2) Nothing I can't find in (to me readable) Danish in
one or more versions.
> Tell us then: according to you, which are the top 3 Disney publications in
> the world today?
I don't know, Archontis, but since you do, why go on with this
discussion?!
> What criteria would you use? If original stories is your only and primary
> criterion,[...]
I am happy to see you put the "If" there. Of course I wouldn't prefere
magazines with only new material. In fact I would like to see more old
Italian pocket material here in Denmark, just not "old" in the sense of
"having seen and read much too often", because that is *boring*!
> then as far as I know, only two companies consistently produce
> today brand-new stories: Disney Italia and Egmont. Still, I never heard
> concerted and consistent praises for either Topolino or the Egmont weeklies.
I don't think any media can produce "news" that get consistent praises.
That's the price such medias have to pay. Both Topolino and the Egmont's
are probably still some of the best weeklies in the world.
Søren
Arensbergen, J.
KOMIX
Message 43 -
1999-12-03 at 15:01:10
Hi all!
Just like Rodney w Bowcock jr. I wonder IF someone not living in Greek could
subscribe on KOMIX? But something I still don't get. IS KOMIX available in
both Greek and English or only in one Greek OR English?
I don't know if the editors of KOMIX are members of this list but if they
are I recommend them to set up a website which gives some info about KOMIX.
It doesn't have to be hi-tech but just some basic information. Like how to
subscribe and what the costs are... Number of pages, size...
My opinion is that more comics retailers should do that...
Bye!
Sven
Just like Rodney w Bowcock jr. I wonder IF someone not living in Greek could
subscribe on KOMIX? But something I still don't get. IS KOMIX available in
both Greek and English or only in one Greek OR English?
I don't know if the editors of KOMIX are members of this list but if they
are I recommend them to set up a website which gives some info about KOMIX.
It doesn't have to be hi-tech but just some basic information. Like how to
subscribe and what the costs are... Number of pages, size...
My opinion is that more comics retailers should do that...
Bye!
Sven
Francois Willot
Disney comics in Japanese?
Message 44 -
1999-12-03 at 15:10:49
Frank Stajano a écrit:
> But again: even more interesting for me would be Japanese reprints of
> classical (say: Barks) stories that I already have; any news on that?
Barks stories are published in Japan, but these are redrawn in manga
style.
Francois
http://eclip2.ec-lille.fr/~willot/coa/index.uk.html
> But again: even more interesting for me would be Japanese reprints of
> classical (say: Barks) stories that I already have; any news on that?
Barks stories are published in Japan, but these are redrawn in manga
style.
Francois
http://eclip2.ec-lille.fr/~willot/coa/index.uk.html
Fluks, H.W.
On KOMIX--Thrice more!
Message 45 -
1999-12-03 at 15:11:21
Soeren:
> > Tell us then: according to you, which are the top 3 Disney
> > publications in the world today?
>
> I don't know, Archontis, but since you do, why go on with this
> discussion?!
Your previous mails suggested you had a clear view on what the top-3 Disney
comics are. (IYO.)
Such a list from you would make us understand your criteria better.
Now it looks like you're saying "I don't know the top-3, but I know KOMIX is
not in it." This doesn't look very consistent to me.
--Harry.
> > Tell us then: according to you, which are the top 3 Disney
> > publications in the world today?
>
> I don't know, Archontis, but since you do, why go on with this
> discussion?!
Your previous mails suggested you had a clear view on what the top-3 Disney
comics are. (IYO.)
Such a list from you would make us understand your criteria better.
Now it looks like you're saying "I don't know the top-3, but I know KOMIX is
not in it." This doesn't look very consistent to me.
--Harry.