Hey Jørgen!
>A few years ago I sent reviews of the Norwegian weekly to the
>list from time to time. I've now written reviews of the last
>six issues, which I'll now send. They are a bit long, so I'll
>send them twice a day... er... two a day, I mean.
>
>If anyone's insterested, I might continue. I won't promise
>that they'll be very regular, but I might try.
I'd be grateful if you would. Not only as a fan, but as an editor
for the modern Egmont comics, I'm very anxious to learn what people thought
was good/bad about specific stories. At a time when the current D-coded
stories aren't being discussed on the list very much, I'm grateful for the
depth and thoughtfulness of your reviews and really appreciate having them
back.
So - *do* continue!
As regards the present reviews, I'm glad you like having the *real*
Phantom Blot back. Both the Blot and Black Pete were softened drastically
for so many years - what a waste! And you know, we're doing our best to make
Pete into a real threat again, too; we lately discussed Dave Rawson's
"Vacation Brake" here, which was one great example.
>(yes, Duckburg and Mousetown is one
>thing in Norway)
Sorry to be a critic, but it's spelled *Mouseton*, not "Mousetown".
And as it happens, Duckburg and Mouseton are one thing in Norway
because they're one thing at *Egmont*. At Egmont today, we say that Mickey
and his friends live in Duckburg - just another section of it than Donald
lives in. In the stories we're publishing now, Mouseton isn't a separate
entity. It's all Duckburg.
(This isn't necessarily what *I* myself agree with, but it's our
standing editorial rule, at least for right now.)
David Gerstein
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Gerstein, David DK - ECN
I'm back, I think
Message 286 -
1999-12-22 at 10:29:57
Leonardo Gori
Greetings
Message 287 -
1999-12-22 at 10:46:16
Dear friends,
I want to give you all my best greetings for the upcoming holidays and for
an happy 2000 year. But I have to excuse myself with all the friends who
gave me personal greetings: I was not able to reply, for serious familiar
problems and a lot of work to do in a so short time. Please, excuse me again.
All the best
(Email removed)
http://space.tin.it/clubnet/leongori
I want to give you all my best greetings for the upcoming holidays and for
an happy 2000 year. But I have to excuse myself with all the friends who
gave me personal greetings: I was not able to reply, for serious familiar
problems and a lot of work to do in a so short time. Please, excuse me again.
All the best
(Email removed)
http://space.tin.it/clubnet/leongori
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Donald Duc & Co # 47 1999
Message 288 -
1999-12-22 at 10:52:52
Hey again Jørgen!
>This issue opens with a story about the stone age girl Gneis (D 99017,
>12 pages), this time written by Janet Gilbert, and drawn by Vicar. This
>girl has appeared in a few stories now, all the other being - as far as
>I remember - written by Stefan Printz-Påhlson.
Princess Oona (that's Gneis' English name) is the creation of Stefan
and Unn Printz-Påhlson, which is why they wrote the first stories with her.
Now, though, others are using her once in a while.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
>This issue opens with a story about the stone age girl Gneis (D 99017,
>12 pages), this time written by Janet Gilbert, and drawn by Vicar. This
>girl has appeared in a few stories now, all the other being - as far as
>I remember - written by Stefan Printz-Påhlson.
Princess Oona (that's Gneis' English name) is the creation of Stefan
and Unn Printz-Påhlson, which is why they wrote the first stories with her.
Now, though, others are using her once in a while.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Arie Fachrisal
DCML digest, Vol 1 #27 - 14 msgs
Message 289 -
1999-12-22 at 12:42:16
Jorgen wrote:
> Number five is a Dutch Donald Duck story (H 94167, 10 pages), written by
> Frank Jonker, and drawn by Mau Heymans.
>
> Heymans is one of my favourite artists, and he's done a very good job on
> this one. Donald is exhausted from his job in a lamp factory, and he sees
> lamps everywhere. Even old 313 looks like a lamp in his eyes. He
So Mau Heymans is the artist of that story. His stories are often printed in
my weeklies but they don't give any credit so i don't know a lot about duck
artists. Thanks for describing the story, that way i can find out which
story is made by which artist. thanks for filling me in.
Arie Fachrisal
> Number five is a Dutch Donald Duck story (H 94167, 10 pages), written by
> Frank Jonker, and drawn by Mau Heymans.
>
> Heymans is one of my favourite artists, and he's done a very good job on
> this one. Donald is exhausted from his job in a lamp factory, and he sees
> lamps everywhere. Even old 313 looks like a lamp in his eyes. He
So Mau Heymans is the artist of that story. His stories are often printed in
my weeklies but they don't give any credit so i don't know a lot about duck
artists. Thanks for describing the story, that way i can find out which
story is made by which artist. thanks for filling me in.
Arie Fachrisal
Trygve Vatle
Quality of D-coded stories
Message 290 -
1999-12-22 at 13:37:40
David:
> I'd be grateful if you would. Not only as a fan, but as an editor
> for the modern Egmont comics, I'm very anxious to learn what
> people thought was good/bad about specific stories. At a time when > the
current D-coded stories aren't being discussed on the list very > much, I'm
grateful for the depth and thoughtfulness of your reviews > and really
appreciate having them back.
I would say that thew overall quality of D-coded stories has gone up agreat
deal, esp. the last 5-7 years. It seems to me that there are several reasons
for this, eg. better stories, use of old characters... One example of this
is my relationship with Mickey Mouse. Before I found him somewhat anoying,
while I now find stories about him among the best. One of my favourites here
is a story I think you wrote where he wrote a childrens book. That one is
great.
Trygve
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> I'd be grateful if you would. Not only as a fan, but as an editor
> for the modern Egmont comics, I'm very anxious to learn what
> people thought was good/bad about specific stories. At a time when > the
current D-coded stories aren't being discussed on the list very > much, I'm
grateful for the depth and thoughtfulness of your reviews > and really
appreciate having them back.
I would say that thew overall quality of D-coded stories has gone up agreat
deal, esp. the last 5-7 years. It seems to me that there are several reasons
for this, eg. better stories, use of old characters... One example of this
is my relationship with Mickey Mouse. Before I found him somewhat anoying,
while I now find stories about him among the best. One of my favourites here
is a story I think you wrote where he wrote a childrens book. That one is
great.
Trygve
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Disney 'duck' items
Message 291 -
1999-12-22 at 14:16:59
I know this is off-subject, but I thought some of the members may
be interested. I stopped by the Disney store in a local shopping
mall yesterday and found they are selling a large number of pins
that represent special 'events' in the history of Disney. There is a
total of 101 at $4 each. Of interest to me was DD -1945 in the
"The Three Caballeros." Also, HDL from 1938, DD from "Wise
Little Hen" (1934) and Uncle Scrooge (1947). There is even a
pin for Ludwig Von Drake. It is so rare to see Disney 'recognize'
Scrooge in mechandise here, so this was a surprise.
BTW, this was the description of the HDL pin:
>Huey, Dewey and Louie are the mischievous offspring of Donald
>Duck's sister, Dumbella.
For Scrooge:
>Although Scrooge McDuck is the richest duck in the world, with no
> less than three cubic acres of money, his favorite possession is still
>the first dime he ever owned.
Finally, I want take a moment to say THANK YOU to everyone
who makes this list possible. There can be no greater combination
of knowledge and help anywhere than here! Like any 'family', there
are conflicts from time to time, but if you need info or help with a
'duck' related matter, this is the place to come (this includes the
various other resources...sites, databases,etc.).
gary
be interested. I stopped by the Disney store in a local shopping
mall yesterday and found they are selling a large number of pins
that represent special 'events' in the history of Disney. There is a
total of 101 at $4 each. Of interest to me was DD -1945 in the
"The Three Caballeros." Also, HDL from 1938, DD from "Wise
Little Hen" (1934) and Uncle Scrooge (1947). There is even a
pin for Ludwig Von Drake. It is so rare to see Disney 'recognize'
Scrooge in mechandise here, so this was a surprise.
BTW, this was the description of the HDL pin:
>Huey, Dewey and Louie are the mischievous offspring of Donald
>Duck's sister, Dumbella.
For Scrooge:
>Although Scrooge McDuck is the richest duck in the world, with no
> less than three cubic acres of money, his favorite possession is still
>the first dime he ever owned.
Finally, I want take a moment to say THANK YOU to everyone
who makes this list possible. There can be no greater combination
of knowledge and help anywhere than here! Like any 'family', there
are conflicts from time to time, but if you need info or help with a
'duck' related matter, this is the place to come (this includes the
various other resources...sites, databases,etc.).
gary
Knut Hunstad
Warning: semi-DUCK-spoiler
Message 292 -
1999-12-22 at 14:39:06
Hi!
Again: this is a semi-spoiler about the D.U.C.K in the Kalevala-story!
I just have the feeling that this is the first time the D.U.C.K appears in
the first panel of _every_ episode of a Don Rosa story...
You might take a look at todays Christmas Calender Panel at DUCKHUNT to see
what I mean (and yes, I _did_ realize this when I read the story, but
haven't thought about commenting it before...)
Knut Hunstad
Trondheim, Norway
Again: this is a semi-spoiler about the D.U.C.K in the Kalevala-story!
I just have the feeling that this is the first time the D.U.C.K appears in
the first panel of _every_ episode of a Don Rosa story...
You might take a look at todays Christmas Calender Panel at DUCKHUNT to see
what I mean (and yes, I _did_ realize this when I read the story, but
haven't thought about commenting it before...)
Knut Hunstad
Trondheim, Norway
Knut Hunstad
Two stones
Message 293 -
1999-12-22 at 14:51:25
This story with the two stones really was something new! I can not remember
having seen such a cross-over story in norwegian DD before! But some of the
artists are very much better with their "standard" characters than the ones
they aren't used to. MM comes out quite awkward looking in one of the
stories (you could almost think it was a MM joke from DR :-)
The whole concept is quite an experiment for the editors, I guess. This new
concept introduces stories that on their own aren't really wrapped up
properly, without anything stating that it really is a continuation story!
For dedicated readers this isn't a problem, but I would guess some of the
more now-and-then-readers might be a little baffled by this. And I really
don't hope this leads us to the super-hero-crossover-thing from the US,
where the same story continues between different magazines, so you have to
read one part in DD, the next in MM and then buy a "summer special" to read
the end...
BTW, speaking about cross-overs, I was surprised the other day to see a
cover page drawn by Don Rosa with both DD and MM in the same page! And MM
even looked like he should! A little slip there, Don? This is probably old
news, I realize, I didn't read this list for some time now and don't have
time to catch up on the X-hundred unread messages in my mailbox :-)
Merry christmas to all of you!
Knut Hunstad
Trondheim, Norway
having seen such a cross-over story in norwegian DD before! But some of the
artists are very much better with their "standard" characters than the ones
they aren't used to. MM comes out quite awkward looking in one of the
stories (you could almost think it was a MM joke from DR :-)
The whole concept is quite an experiment for the editors, I guess. This new
concept introduces stories that on their own aren't really wrapped up
properly, without anything stating that it really is a continuation story!
For dedicated readers this isn't a problem, but I would guess some of the
more now-and-then-readers might be a little baffled by this. And I really
don't hope this leads us to the super-hero-crossover-thing from the US,
where the same story continues between different magazines, so you have to
read one part in DD, the next in MM and then buy a "summer special" to read
the end...
BTW, speaking about cross-overs, I was surprised the other day to see a
cover page drawn by Don Rosa with both DD and MM in the same page! And MM
even looked like he should! A little slip there, Don? This is probably old
news, I realize, I didn't read this list for some time now and don't have
time to catch up on the X-hundred unread messages in my mailbox :-)
Merry christmas to all of you!
Knut Hunstad
Trondheim, Norway
Stefan Persson
DCML digest, Vol 1 #27 - 14 msgs
Message 294 -
1999-12-22 at 15:08:09
>From: "Arie Fachrisal" <(Email removed)>
>
>So Mau Heymans is the artist of that story. His stories are often printed
>in my weeklies but they don't give any credit so i don't know a lot about
>duck artists. Thanks for describing the story, that way i can find out
>which story is made by which artist. thanks for filling me in.
If you want to know the names of the artists, you can search for the codes
on:
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/inducks/
If you, i.e., descide to search for D 1, you write D 1 in the code field,
and you'll get:
DCML: Story index
1 items found.
Possible stories
Code Pgs L Writer Artist Inker Hero Title
D 1 7 Niels Rydahl GD The Chair Case
[some appearances:US] [first published:1964-11-16]
After doing so many times, you'll probably learn by yourself how to identify
the artists by the art style.
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>
>So Mau Heymans is the artist of that story. His stories are often printed
>in my weeklies but they don't give any credit so i don't know a lot about
>duck artists. Thanks for describing the story, that way i can find out
>which story is made by which artist. thanks for filling me in.
If you want to know the names of the artists, you can search for the codes
on:
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/inducks/
If you, i.e., descide to search for D 1, you write D 1 in the code field,
and you'll get:
DCML: Story index
1 items found.
Possible stories
Code Pgs L Writer Artist Inker Hero Title
D 1 7 Niels Rydahl GD The Chair Case
[some appearances:US] [first published:1964-11-16]
After doing so many times, you'll probably learn by yourself how to identify
the artists by the art style.
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Knut about Rosa (semi-DUCK-spoiler)
Message 295 -
1999-12-22 at 16:22:01
Knut:
> I just have the feeling that this is the first time the
> D.U.C.K appears in
> the first panel of _every_ episode of a Don Rosa story...
The *only* other time Don did that was in the "War of the Wendigo" story.
And there's an occasion (Lo$ chapter 12) where D.U.C.K. is hidden several
times in the first *and* in the last panel of the story.
> I was surprised the other day to see a
> cover page drawn by Don Rosa with both DD and MM in the same
> page!
Don did a few covers with DD, MM and US, for Gladstone near the end of their
first run (1989). They were meant for Gladstone's "WDC in Color" albums,
which were bundlings of (superfluous) Gladstone albums. Not all of Don's
covers were used at that time. Some of the covers were used (or re-used)
almost a decade later, near the end of Gladstone's "second run".
(Now let's hope we will be able to speak of a "third run"...)
--Harry.
(Best Christmas wishes to all!)
> I just have the feeling that this is the first time the
> D.U.C.K appears in
> the first panel of _every_ episode of a Don Rosa story...
The *only* other time Don did that was in the "War of the Wendigo" story.
And there's an occasion (Lo$ chapter 12) where D.U.C.K. is hidden several
times in the first *and* in the last panel of the story.
> I was surprised the other day to see a
> cover page drawn by Don Rosa with both DD and MM in the same
> page!
Don did a few covers with DD, MM and US, for Gladstone near the end of their
first run (1989). They were meant for Gladstone's "WDC in Color" albums,
which were bundlings of (superfluous) Gladstone albums. Not all of Don's
covers were used at that time. Some of the covers were used (or re-used)
almost a decade later, near the end of Gladstone's "second run".
(Now let's hope we will be able to speak of a "third run"...)
--Harry.
(Best Christmas wishes to all!)
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Jorgen
Message 296 -
1999-12-22 at 17:28:16
Anders Christian Sivebaek:
| Welcome back Jorgen.
Thanks :-)
| and they change color from time to time... not intended but because of
| the newly discovered egmont-syndrome.
| It makes the weekly be filled with miscollerings, patly wrong
| informations about Frogs, ads about books that aren't supposed to be
| published before 2 weeks after the ad... and no references of course...
| why is that,anyway?
| Don't the kids want to have them there? If that's the case I give up.
It just illustrates the high speed everything runs at at Egmont, eh?
I agree with you that things like this might be irritating, but all over
I think the magazine has improved very much during the last ten years, so
I'm not really complaining. That thing about the frog was a bit surprising,
though, and it happened in Denmark as well?
I didn't quite get that question about references. Which references do
you mean?
Anyway, I won't give up. I _need_ this weekly dose of ducks and mice,
miscolored or not :)
Jørgen
| Welcome back Jorgen.
Thanks :-)
| and they change color from time to time... not intended but because of
| the newly discovered egmont-syndrome.
| It makes the weekly be filled with miscollerings, patly wrong
| informations about Frogs, ads about books that aren't supposed to be
| published before 2 weeks after the ad... and no references of course...
| why is that,anyway?
| Don't the kids want to have them there? If that's the case I give up.
It just illustrates the high speed everything runs at at Egmont, eh?
I agree with you that things like this might be irritating, but all over
I think the magazine has improved very much during the last ten years, so
I'm not really complaining. That thing about the frog was a bit surprising,
though, and it happened in Denmark as well?
I didn't quite get that question about references. Which references do
you mean?
Anyway, I won't give up. I _need_ this weekly dose of ducks and mice,
miscolored or not :)
Jørgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
I'm back, I think
Message 297 -
1999-12-22 at 17:40:31
Hi, David!
I don't think I ever came as far as to congratulate you with that
editor job. So now I will: Congratulations!
| So - *do* continue!
Ok. I will then. Glad to know you're working on Black Pete as well as
the Blot. I've missed them. I remember the first time I read the
Gottfredson story where the Blot appears for the first time. I was
about nine years old at the time, and used to the weak Blot (in the
late seventies). Wow! What an experience that was!
| Sorry to be a critic,
I'd make you feel sorry if you weren't ;-) Seriously, I'm glad people
tell me when I'm wrong. It's not very funny continuing to be wrong,
and annoying people by being so.
| (This isn't necessarily what *I* myself agree with, but it's our
| standing editorial rule, at least for right now.)
It's ok by me, and Duckburg is in Norway, of course...
Jørgen
I don't think I ever came as far as to congratulate you with that
editor job. So now I will: Congratulations!
| So - *do* continue!
Ok. I will then. Glad to know you're working on Black Pete as well as
the Blot. I've missed them. I remember the first time I read the
Gottfredson story where the Blot appears for the first time. I was
about nine years old at the time, and used to the weak Blot (in the
late seventies). Wow! What an experience that was!
| Sorry to be a critic,
I'd make you feel sorry if you weren't ;-) Seriously, I'm glad people
tell me when I'm wrong. It's not very funny continuing to be wrong,
and annoying people by being so.
| (This isn't necessarily what *I* myself agree with, but it's our
| standing editorial rule, at least for right now.)
It's ok by me, and Duckburg is in Norway, of course...
Jørgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Donald Duc & Co # 47 1999
Message 298 -
1999-12-22 at 17:44:47
And hi again, David :)
| Princess Oona (that's Gneis' English name) is the creation of Stefan
| and Unn Printz-Påhlson, which is why they wrote the first stories with her.
| Now, though, others are using her once in a while.
Ah, yes. I remember we had a discussion about her some time ago. I think
I said I didn't like her very much, and that hasn't really changed.
I can't quite explain that, though. It's good work, but the character
doesn't quite appeal to me.
Jørgen
| Princess Oona (that's Gneis' English name) is the creation of Stefan
| and Unn Printz-Påhlson, which is why they wrote the first stories with her.
| Now, though, others are using her once in a while.
Ah, yes. I remember we had a discussion about her some time ago. I think
I said I didn't like her very much, and that hasn't really changed.
I can't quite explain that, though. It's good work, but the character
doesn't quite appeal to me.
Jørgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
DCML digest, Vol 1 #27 - 14 msgs
Message 299 -
1999-12-22 at 17:48:16
Arie Fachrisal:
| So Mau Heymans is the artist of that story. His stories are often printed in
| my weeklies but they don't give any credit so i don't know a lot about duck
| artists. Thanks for describing the story, that way i can find out which
| story is made by which artist. thanks for filling me in.
That would be in Indonesia, right? Is there mostly Dutch stuff in your
weeklies, or are there other things as well?
Jørgen
| So Mau Heymans is the artist of that story. His stories are often printed in
| my weeklies but they don't give any credit so i don't know a lot about duck
| artists. Thanks for describing the story, that way i can find out which
| story is made by which artist. thanks for filling me in.
That would be in Indonesia, right? Is there mostly Dutch stuff in your
weeklies, or are there other things as well?
Jørgen
Bhc
DCML digest, Vol 1 #25 - 19 msgs
Message 300 -
1999-12-22 at 18:00:11
HOY wrote to DON ROSA:
>I [k]now from speaking to you at Mid-Ohio Con that you are not hopeful
>for a resumption for regular publication of Disney Comics in the U.S., but it
>seems to me that perhaps a one-shot or annual publication of a collection of
>your new stories might be easier to accomplish.
Any publication using Disney properties involves getting a license from
Disney. And what I understand about the terms currently under discussion
between Disney and Steve Geppi for periodical comics leads me to believe a
one-shot and/or annual license would take just as long to negotiate. Maybe
longer.
In short, there's just no easy way around the situation as it stands.
But, be of good cheer. Disney comics in the U.S. may be down, but they're
not out. The U.S. comics market still exists, and shows some tentative
signs of recovering from the severe drubbing of the past decade. Disney and
Steve Geppi & Co. want Disney comics to be there, even if arranging it has
proven to be more of a challenge than anyone expected.
Gary
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soon" - the world's smartest garbage man
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Gladstone *still* on the Web: http://www.brucehamilton.com/gladstone
>I [k]now from speaking to you at Mid-Ohio Con that you are not hopeful
>for a resumption for regular publication of Disney Comics in the U.S., but it
>seems to me that perhaps a one-shot or annual publication of a collection of
>your new stories might be easier to accomplish.
Any publication using Disney properties involves getting a license from
Disney. And what I understand about the terms currently under discussion
between Disney and Steve Geppi for periodical comics leads me to believe a
one-shot and/or annual license would take just as long to negotiate. Maybe
longer.
In short, there's just no easy way around the situation as it stands.
But, be of good cheer. Disney comics in the U.S. may be down, but they're
not out. The U.S. comics market still exists, and shows some tentative
signs of recovering from the severe drubbing of the past decade. Disney and
Steve Geppi & Co. want Disney comics to be there, even if arranging it has
proven to be more of a challenge than anyone expected.
Gary
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"I took the liberty of updating your resume. I'm guessing you'll need it
soon" - the world's smartest garbage man
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Gladstone *still* on the Web: http://www.brucehamilton.com/gladstone