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Anders Christian Sivebaek a écrit:
>
> > BTW, as all of you know very well, one of the pin-up is not an
> original drawing.
> which one is that??
Author
Topic: 199912
(374 messages)
Francois Willot
reply to number 10 (quality, bella Duck, kalevala)
Message 91 -
1999-12-05 at 21:21:22
Georgios Balanikas
Barks and other artists
Message 92 -
1999-12-05 at 21:43:25
>And besides, I think all of us agree that no one ever has
managed
>to do a better Disney comics story than Carl Barks. Some have come
>*very* close (i.e. Don Rosa) but none have consistantly matched his
>level>
RODNEY
You will allow me to have my reservations about this remark.
Don Rosa have not come *very * close. He has put a totally new dimension in
Disney comic art. Maybe his art has always as a starting point and source of
inspiration Carl Barks' legacy, but also has brought an unexpected
breezing freshness not only in the world of the Disney Comics but also in
our general perception for the Comic art.
His Ducks are a part of a Grand scene of happenings and moments in History
,without of course leaving them from their protagonistic role.
The background of these stories is a meticulous and overdetailed (but not
overloaded) decor, that can stay alone ,waiting for the protagonists (could
be even others, except the Ducks).
If it's allowed for me to make a paralleling, this art reminds me of
Franco Zeffirelli's stagings where the artist puts so wonderful and amazing
details that has drew the critics against him ,accusing that distracts the
attention of the audience (in Opera) or the spectators (in Cinema ), away
from the Music or the plot and Acting.
So, I will Never make a comparison between Barks and Rosa or even the
other contemporary artists ,because everyone has his own style and
perception and everyone has moved on a step ahead this wonderful art.
(Actually nobody compares Zeffirelli with his master and mentor Visconti)
Of course these thoughts are absolutely my personal view and I don't
expect everyone in this list to agree with me ,even Don himself.
.....................................
BTW , OLE, the word "periodical " is English but clearly from Greek origin
.
(Periodikos = something that is repeating in a defined time interval )
Georgios Balanikas
managed
>to do a better Disney comics story than Carl Barks. Some have come
>*very* close (i.e. Don Rosa) but none have consistantly matched his
>level>
RODNEY
You will allow me to have my reservations about this remark.
Don Rosa have not come *very * close. He has put a totally new dimension in
Disney comic art. Maybe his art has always as a starting point and source of
inspiration Carl Barks' legacy, but also has brought an unexpected
breezing freshness not only in the world of the Disney Comics but also in
our general perception for the Comic art.
His Ducks are a part of a Grand scene of happenings and moments in History
,without of course leaving them from their protagonistic role.
The background of these stories is a meticulous and overdetailed (but not
overloaded) decor, that can stay alone ,waiting for the protagonists (could
be even others, except the Ducks).
If it's allowed for me to make a paralleling, this art reminds me of
Franco Zeffirelli's stagings where the artist puts so wonderful and amazing
details that has drew the critics against him ,accusing that distracts the
attention of the audience (in Opera) or the spectators (in Cinema ), away
from the Music or the plot and Acting.
So, I will Never make a comparison between Barks and Rosa or even the
other contemporary artists ,because everyone has his own style and
perception and everyone has moved on a step ahead this wonderful art.
(Actually nobody compares Zeffirelli with his master and mentor Visconti)
Of course these thoughts are absolutely my personal view and I don't
expect everyone in this list to agree with me ,even Don himself.
.....................................
BTW , OLE, the word "periodical " is English but clearly from Greek origin
.
(Periodikos = something that is repeating in a defined time interval )
Georgios Balanikas
Stefan Diös
Swedish Rosa Kalevala
Message 93 -
1999-12-06 at 04:15:02
Warning: Most, if not all, of this message could be skipped by non-Swedes
and non-Finns!
BROR in DCML #7, regarding Stefan Persson's nice words about the Swedish
translation of Don Rosa's Kalevala story:
> Hehe... Stefan, did you get that? You *are* very good. ;-)
Well... did you ever hear me say I'm *not* the world's biggest genius?
Oddly enough, I haven't yet heard from the Swedish Academy or the Nobel
Prize Committee about this piece of work. My phone must be out of order. At
the very least, I expect Sweden to abolish the monarchy any day now, so
that I can be elected president.
Seriously, I enjoyed working with this story as much as any other that I
can remember, or more. I found it excellent in its own right, rich and
strong in atmosphere, character, adventure, and suspense. Another beautiful
labor of love from Don Rosa! On top of that, its poetic, mythical and
literary theme appeals strongly to me. When working with Don's scientific
or technical stories, I often feel I can't understand the underlying basics
fully enough to bring home the finer points of the dialog, not to mention
all the movie references I constantly miss out on... but this is more up my
alley!
I hadn't read very much of the actual Kalevala before, and didn't even
recognize the characters by name. But I knew roughly what it was about, and
I did know how the runometer works, first from reading Barks' Peeweegah
story, but also from my general interest in poetry. Obviously, the first
thing I did was to get hold of a copy of the classic Swedish Kalevala
translation (Bjorn Collinder), which I read with great pleasure in order to
catch the right mood of the characters, the settings, and the meter.
Actually, another Kalevala translation just came out in Sweden... it's so
new I couldn't get hold of it when working with the Duck story, but I have
to say I'm just as glad I didn't. Even though many of the Swedish reviewers
seemed to like the new Kalevala text, it is much too modern for my
antiquated taste!
In writing the Swedish dialog, I had great fun trying to maintain the
characteristics of the classic runometer wherever I could, while also
keeping Don's intentions to sometimes mix the archaic language with more
modern words or phrases to humorous effect, Duckburg-style. The result
can't always be perfect, of course, but I have to say I'm reasonably
pleased with most of it. One thing I deliberately did to change the classic
meter was the way I treated Finnish names like "Suomi". As I understand it,
the "uo" is supposed to be a diphtong... that is, one vowel sound, making
one syllable and one beat in the meter: "Suo-mi". But I figured that when
read out aloud by a native Swede, these vowels would fall more naturally in
two syllables, making three altogether in the word "Su-o-mi". At least they
do to me! This makes a marked difference in the meter, of course, and I'm
sure that every Finn would notice immediately. I almost regret my choice -
the poet in me dislikes every little imperfection in the classic meter, but
maybe some Swedes find the lines easier to read this way, as I was hoping?
Other than that, many lines came quite easy, as the runometric rhythm works
very well in the Swedish language. Much better, I'm sure, than in English,
even if not as well as in Finnish!
I'm eager to see how the general Swedish public reacts to the finished
story. (As well as readers in the rest of the world, of course!) I fully
expect all the die-hard Don Rosa fans to adore it, but will "ordinary"
Swedes, who won't have Kalevala and its characters as close to their hearts
as the Finns do, be able to appreciate the story, the art and the adventure
by itself, the way it's supposed to be? And all the really young readers,
who still make up the largest portion of the readership... will they
understand anything at all? And what if some expert on Finnish literature
should happen to lay eyes on it?! Incidentally, the majority of people with
whom I normally discuss Duck stories are of the "die-hard Don Rosa fans"
category, so I guess I'll never find out if it really becomes a wide-spread
hit in this country... but I'm glad to hear it works so well in Finland,
which is the most important place for it!
By the way... I was expecting to end this note with a Happy Birthday, Walt
Disney... but I see it's already Happy Birthday, Finland! Even more
appropriate, then! I just wish I could say it in Finnish...
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
and non-Finns!
BROR in DCML #7, regarding Stefan Persson's nice words about the Swedish
translation of Don Rosa's Kalevala story:
> Hehe... Stefan, did you get that? You *are* very good. ;-)
Well... did you ever hear me say I'm *not* the world's biggest genius?
Oddly enough, I haven't yet heard from the Swedish Academy or the Nobel
Prize Committee about this piece of work. My phone must be out of order. At
the very least, I expect Sweden to abolish the monarchy any day now, so
that I can be elected president.
Seriously, I enjoyed working with this story as much as any other that I
can remember, or more. I found it excellent in its own right, rich and
strong in atmosphere, character, adventure, and suspense. Another beautiful
labor of love from Don Rosa! On top of that, its poetic, mythical and
literary theme appeals strongly to me. When working with Don's scientific
or technical stories, I often feel I can't understand the underlying basics
fully enough to bring home the finer points of the dialog, not to mention
all the movie references I constantly miss out on... but this is more up my
alley!
I hadn't read very much of the actual Kalevala before, and didn't even
recognize the characters by name. But I knew roughly what it was about, and
I did know how the runometer works, first from reading Barks' Peeweegah
story, but also from my general interest in poetry. Obviously, the first
thing I did was to get hold of a copy of the classic Swedish Kalevala
translation (Bjorn Collinder), which I read with great pleasure in order to
catch the right mood of the characters, the settings, and the meter.
Actually, another Kalevala translation just came out in Sweden... it's so
new I couldn't get hold of it when working with the Duck story, but I have
to say I'm just as glad I didn't. Even though many of the Swedish reviewers
seemed to like the new Kalevala text, it is much too modern for my
antiquated taste!
In writing the Swedish dialog, I had great fun trying to maintain the
characteristics of the classic runometer wherever I could, while also
keeping Don's intentions to sometimes mix the archaic language with more
modern words or phrases to humorous effect, Duckburg-style. The result
can't always be perfect, of course, but I have to say I'm reasonably
pleased with most of it. One thing I deliberately did to change the classic
meter was the way I treated Finnish names like "Suomi". As I understand it,
the "uo" is supposed to be a diphtong... that is, one vowel sound, making
one syllable and one beat in the meter: "Suo-mi". But I figured that when
read out aloud by a native Swede, these vowels would fall more naturally in
two syllables, making three altogether in the word "Su-o-mi". At least they
do to me! This makes a marked difference in the meter, of course, and I'm
sure that every Finn would notice immediately. I almost regret my choice -
the poet in me dislikes every little imperfection in the classic meter, but
maybe some Swedes find the lines easier to read this way, as I was hoping?
Other than that, many lines came quite easy, as the runometric rhythm works
very well in the Swedish language. Much better, I'm sure, than in English,
even if not as well as in Finnish!
I'm eager to see how the general Swedish public reacts to the finished
story. (As well as readers in the rest of the world, of course!) I fully
expect all the die-hard Don Rosa fans to adore it, but will "ordinary"
Swedes, who won't have Kalevala and its characters as close to their hearts
as the Finns do, be able to appreciate the story, the art and the adventure
by itself, the way it's supposed to be? And all the really young readers,
who still make up the largest portion of the readership... will they
understand anything at all? And what if some expert on Finnish literature
should happen to lay eyes on it?! Incidentally, the majority of people with
whom I normally discuss Duck stories are of the "die-hard Don Rosa fans"
category, so I guess I'll never find out if it really becomes a wide-spread
hit in this country... but I'm glad to hear it works so well in Finland,
which is the most important place for it!
By the way... I was expecting to end this note with a Happy Birthday, Walt
Disney... but I see it's already Happy Birthday, Finland! Even more
appropriate, then! I just wish I could say it in Finnish...
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
Knut Hunstad
Quest for Kalevala
Message 94 -
1999-12-06 at 10:05:20
Hi!
I can only join in on the ovations: Don, great work!
To possibly avoid any confusion about this comment:
> I sadly have to say that the Norwegian translators hasn't used the
> rune-o-meter either.
...
> See ya,
> Øyvind Schei,
> Norway
That is wrong (as I think Don already knows...)! The point is that all
direct "sitations" from Kalevala are with rune-o-meter, not all text in the
story! I think the translator(s?) did a great job!
Knut Hunstad
Trondheim, Norway
I can only join in on the ovations: Don, great work!
To possibly avoid any confusion about this comment:
> I sadly have to say that the Norwegian translators hasn't used the
> rune-o-meter either.
...
> See ya,
> Øyvind Schei,
> Norway
That is wrong (as I think Don already knows...)! The point is that all
direct "sitations" from Kalevala are with rune-o-meter, not all text in the
story! I think the translator(s?) did a great job!
Knut Hunstad
Trondheim, Norway
Falkenberg
Different covers
Message 95 -
1999-12-06 at 11:22:32
Hi folks,
Yesterday was a very stormy and windy day in Germany, so I had time
to read a Donald Duck Adventure (no.9) and find out I have this comic
two times, but in two "cover versions".
first marked: 95 c
No. 9
Nov
CC 02831
second marked: 95 c
1,25 $
No 9
Nov.
Any explanation for this ? Many thanks for your help .
with greetings
Helmut Falkenberg
Yesterday was a very stormy and windy day in Germany, so I had time
to read a Donald Duck Adventure (no.9) and find out I have this comic
two times, but in two "cover versions".
first marked: 95 c
No. 9
Nov
CC 02831
second marked: 95 c
1,25 $
No 9
Nov.
Any explanation for this ? Many thanks for your help .
with greetings
Helmut Falkenberg
Stefan Diös
Digest 11; Kalevala meter
Message 96 -
1999-12-06 at 13:59:13
ANDERS CHRISTIAN:
>I have the danish kalevala from the library and it
>shows rune-o-meter. but the book is published by a museum and the
>University in Copenhagen. And Egmont doesn't own that, so they couldn't
>copy it. Maybe in sweden there is a connection between the poblisher of
>the kalevla and the the Kalle Anka-publisher?
It should be pointed out that no direct quotations from Kalevala were used
in Don's story, except possibly in one place where I couldn't use them even
if I wanted to, because those specific lines were among the few that were
deleted from the Swedish Kalevala translation I had. So the translator's
job, just like Don's, is to write his own runometer to fit the context...
and, as Knut (and others) have noted, not in all the dialog in the story,
but only where the mythical characters speak, by themselves or through the
ducks. This makes the poetic effect even stronger in a comic-book story
like this, when put against the normal, every-day Duckburgers' talk;
especially if a nice font is used for the runometer lines.
(OK, I'll admit that I used the runometer in one other place... in the
"don't miss next week's issue" publicity line that the publisher puts in
after every unfinished chapter!)
KNUT (about the Norwegian version)
> I think the translator(s?) did a great job!
Glad to hear you confirm this, because that's what I also heard of the
Norwegian text (which I haven't seen). While working with the Swedish one,
I had a steady and valuable exchange of input with Nils Lid Hjort, who at
least edited the dialog and verses in Norway, maybe to the point where he
wrote some of them himself? And, of course, I also need to thank the ever
helpful Don Rosa himself, who always does everything he can to answer the
translator's questions!
Finally, if some countries (like Denmark, as it seems) choose not to use
the runometer at all, it's a pity for the Rosa fans and other mature
readers in that country... but it has to be that publisher's decision.
Maybe they think it would be too strained for the kids to read (and maybe
they would be right, at that?!); maybe the translator doesn't feel he can
handle the runometer well enough in his language (just as I'm not
comfortable with all the details in some technical stories); maybe they
haven't the time to do a proper job about it; maybe they can use some other
tricks to lend a proper atmosphere to their dialog... or whatever their
reasons may be. I always enjoy putting a little poetry or pseudo-poetry in
the stories when needed, but I wouldn't expect every translator and
publisher in the world to work in exactly the same way that I do. For
better or for worse.
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
>I have the danish kalevala from the library and it
>shows rune-o-meter. but the book is published by a museum and the
>University in Copenhagen. And Egmont doesn't own that, so they couldn't
>copy it. Maybe in sweden there is a connection between the poblisher of
>the kalevla and the the Kalle Anka-publisher?
It should be pointed out that no direct quotations from Kalevala were used
in Don's story, except possibly in one place where I couldn't use them even
if I wanted to, because those specific lines were among the few that were
deleted from the Swedish Kalevala translation I had. So the translator's
job, just like Don's, is to write his own runometer to fit the context...
and, as Knut (and others) have noted, not in all the dialog in the story,
but only where the mythical characters speak, by themselves or through the
ducks. This makes the poetic effect even stronger in a comic-book story
like this, when put against the normal, every-day Duckburgers' talk;
especially if a nice font is used for the runometer lines.
(OK, I'll admit that I used the runometer in one other place... in the
"don't miss next week's issue" publicity line that the publisher puts in
after every unfinished chapter!)
KNUT (about the Norwegian version)
> I think the translator(s?) did a great job!
Glad to hear you confirm this, because that's what I also heard of the
Norwegian text (which I haven't seen). While working with the Swedish one,
I had a steady and valuable exchange of input with Nils Lid Hjort, who at
least edited the dialog and verses in Norway, maybe to the point where he
wrote some of them himself? And, of course, I also need to thank the ever
helpful Don Rosa himself, who always does everything he can to answer the
translator's questions!
Finally, if some countries (like Denmark, as it seems) choose not to use
the runometer at all, it's a pity for the Rosa fans and other mature
readers in that country... but it has to be that publisher's decision.
Maybe they think it would be too strained for the kids to read (and maybe
they would be right, at that?!); maybe the translator doesn't feel he can
handle the runometer well enough in his language (just as I'm not
comfortable with all the details in some technical stories); maybe they
haven't the time to do a proper job about it; maybe they can use some other
tricks to lend a proper atmosphere to their dialog... or whatever their
reasons may be. I always enjoy putting a little poetry or pseudo-poetry in
the stories when needed, but I wouldn't expect every translator and
publisher in the world to work in exactly the same way that I do. For
better or for worse.
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
Kriton Kyrimis
DCML digest, Vol 1 #11 - 8 msgs
Message 97 -
1999-12-06 at 14:13:17
ANDERS CHRISTIAN:
> ?! can't we throw people of the list when they don't do as they are
> told?
> It's like the one that write unsubscribe to the wrong address...
In that particular case, being thrown out of the list is what these
people are trying to do, so it would be no punishment!
OLIV:
> Europe ?
> Where is Europe ?
It's in any European country other than Greece. :-)
(In pre-EU days, if you asked a store owner whether some imported item
that they were selling was made in Greece, they might say "no, it's
European", not realizing the contradiction.)
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Don't listen to me; I never do."
-----
> ?! can't we throw people of the list when they don't do as they are
> told?
> It's like the one that write unsubscribe to the wrong address...
In that particular case, being thrown out of the list is what these
people are trying to do, so it would be no punishment!
OLIV:
> Europe ?
> Where is Europe ?
It's in any European country other than Greece. :-)
(In pre-EU days, if you asked a store owner whether some imported item
that they were selling was made in Greece, they might say "no, it's
European", not realizing the contradiction.)
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Don't listen to me; I never do."
-----
Vic Pratt
Superduck
Message 98 -
1999-12-06 at 14:13:34
A few questions for my friend on the list about SUPER DUCK....
1. Did he begin as a straight rip off of Donald? Were there any story swipes?
2.I like the surreal edge of some of the mid-period Super Duck stories. Any idea
who wrote them?
3. Were there many different artists?
Thankyou
Vic
1. Did he begin as a straight rip off of Donald? Were there any story swipes?
2.I like the surreal edge of some of the mid-period Super Duck stories. Any idea
who wrote them?
3. Were there many different artists?
Thankyou
Vic
Fluks, H.W.
Vic: superduck
Message 99 -
1999-12-06 at 15:33:39
Vic:
> From: Vic Pratt [mailto:(Email removed)]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 1:14 PM
> To: dcml
> Subject: superduck
> Sensitivity: Confidential
Why is this confidential? An error in your mailer settings?
> A few questions for my friend on the list about SUPER DUCK....
An excellent introducktion to Super Duck, as well as many other
Italian-produced stories, can be found in Frank Stajano's essay on:
http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/disney/
Follow the link to:
"Francesco Stajano. "Disney comics from Italy" in NAFS(k)uriren 30-32,
1999-2000. (Text-only PDF, 19 pages, 233 KB)"
This may answer a lot of your questions!
--Harry.
> From: Vic Pratt [mailto:(Email removed)]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 1:14 PM
> To: dcml
> Subject: superduck
> Sensitivity: Confidential
Why is this confidential? An error in your mailer settings?
> A few questions for my friend on the list about SUPER DUCK....
An excellent introducktion to Super Duck, as well as many other
Italian-produced stories, can be found in Frank Stajano's essay on:
http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/disney/
Follow the link to:
"Francesco Stajano. "Disney comics from Italy" in NAFS(k)uriren 30-32,
1999-2000. (Text-only PDF, 19 pages, 233 KB)"
This may answer a lot of your questions!
--Harry.
Nils Lid Hjort
Interviews with Don Rosa in Norway
Message 100 -
1999-12-06 at 15:55:12
After his rockstarian week in Finland Don Rosa briefly
visited Oslo on his way home to the USA. In addition
to a couple of meetings with tangential business aspects
to them this resulted, or is in the process of resulting in,
a couple of interviews.
(1) The most publicly visible one is a two-page spread in
"Dagens Næringsliv" on November 27, with interviewer
Hugo Lauritz Jenssen, titled "Donald in Sisu Land".
It has a nice picture of DR with noone else than DD
on top of Egmont's rather scroogebinnian main office
building in Oslo, and four scenes from the Kalevala story.
The timing was good, in that this occurred the Saturday
before the first of the three consecutive Kalevala
Tuesdays in Norway. So *some* people who don't regularly
buy the weekly DD will actually do it for this occasion
(hi mom and dad!).
In the interview, Jenssen (with Rosa) take up various Kalevalian
aspects, mentions the Hiawatha Longfellow 1855 connection,
Barks' pygmy indians, the extra 34th Finnish page, Sibelius,
the runo-rhythm, and so on (one feels that Jenssen eagerly
must have studied the Norwegian/Swedish "introduction page"!).
Jenssen even mentions the doctoral thesis of Elias L{\"o}nnrot,
and is as scholarly informative with respect to where the different
bits of the Kalevala have been gathered as "Donald Duck"'s
special Kalevala-consultant was when he first communicated
with the editors. At the end of the interview Rosa laments
the state of affairs of Disney comics in the USA, with
the end (???) of Gladstone and so on.
(2) Secondly I understand there will be an interview conducted
by occasional list contributor Erik Hørthe, to be published
on the web. I just checked with http://www.donald.no , but cannot
find anything there? Could you enlighten us, Erik?
(3) Thirdly there will be a little but privileged interview/report
published in a week or two in a school magazine publication
in Oslo, complete with a nice Rosa drawing made for the occasion.
Nils Lid Hjort
visited Oslo on his way home to the USA. In addition
to a couple of meetings with tangential business aspects
to them this resulted, or is in the process of resulting in,
a couple of interviews.
(1) The most publicly visible one is a two-page spread in
"Dagens Næringsliv" on November 27, with interviewer
Hugo Lauritz Jenssen, titled "Donald in Sisu Land".
It has a nice picture of DR with noone else than DD
on top of Egmont's rather scroogebinnian main office
building in Oslo, and four scenes from the Kalevala story.
The timing was good, in that this occurred the Saturday
before the first of the three consecutive Kalevala
Tuesdays in Norway. So *some* people who don't regularly
buy the weekly DD will actually do it for this occasion
(hi mom and dad!).
In the interview, Jenssen (with Rosa) take up various Kalevalian
aspects, mentions the Hiawatha Longfellow 1855 connection,
Barks' pygmy indians, the extra 34th Finnish page, Sibelius,
the runo-rhythm, and so on (one feels that Jenssen eagerly
must have studied the Norwegian/Swedish "introduction page"!).
Jenssen even mentions the doctoral thesis of Elias L{\"o}nnrot,
and is as scholarly informative with respect to where the different
bits of the Kalevala have been gathered as "Donald Duck"'s
special Kalevala-consultant was when he first communicated
with the editors. At the end of the interview Rosa laments
the state of affairs of Disney comics in the USA, with
the end (???) of Gladstone and so on.
(2) Secondly I understand there will be an interview conducted
by occasional list contributor Erik Hørthe, to be published
on the web. I just checked with http://www.donald.no , but cannot
find anything there? Could you enlighten us, Erik?
(3) Thirdly there will be a little but privileged interview/report
published in a week or two in a school magazine publication
in Oslo, complete with a nice Rosa drawing made for the occasion.
Nils Lid Hjort
Arie Fachrisal
Simple stupid questions
Message 101 -
1999-12-06 at 16:20:28
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can somebody help me out, cause I'm a bit lost in all your messages
1. What's HDL?
2. What's IMO mean?
Thanks,
Arie Fachrisal (Indonesia)
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can somebody help me out, cause I'm a bit lost in all your messages
1. What's HDL?
2. What's IMO mean?
Thanks,
Arie Fachrisal (Indonesia)
Arie Fachrisal
Erik Horthe
Message 102 -
1999-12-06 at 16:31:15
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First of all, I must apologize to use this DCML for sending a private =
mail. But i got mail from Erik from norway, and i can't reply him. My =
outlook express thinks that his address is not an e-mail address at all. =
I don't want to let him down. So plea........se forgive me.
Well, here goes:
> Hi Arie
Hi, too, Erik
> I collect Disney comics from different countries and would like to =
swap a
> Norwegian one against one of yours if you are intersted!
yes, I am interested. in fact i've just found an Indonesian Disney
compilation: it's B/W 150+ pages with:
Lo$ part 4
a Barks ten-pager
a van-Horn's ten-pager
others, i can't identify the artists.
Interested? Just bought Donal Bebek today (it's a weekly here) and are =
you
interested in it too? cause it has a part 1 of Toy-Story2 big poster. =
The
2nd part which is the last part will come in with the year-end special =
issue
which supposedly to be in shops next week.
BTW, I live in jakarta, capital of Indonesia, and taking a management =
field
of study in a university.
See ya,
Arie Fachrisal:-)
BTW to the people i promised to send my comics, sorry about sending you =
the same stuff. the reason is there's no back-issues here. the publisher =
here, Gramedia, destroys books that's left after one month not sold. =
please understand, thanks.
Again, i apologize for this mis-use of DCML.
Arie Fachrisal
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First of all, I must apologize to use this DCML for sending a private =
mail. But i got mail from Erik from norway, and i can't reply him. My =
outlook express thinks that his address is not an e-mail address at all. =
I don't want to let him down. So plea........se forgive me.
Well, here goes:
> Hi Arie
Hi, too, Erik
> I collect Disney comics from different countries and would like to =
swap a
> Norwegian one against one of yours if you are intersted!
yes, I am interested. in fact i've just found an Indonesian Disney
compilation: it's B/W 150+ pages with:
Lo$ part 4
a Barks ten-pager
a van-Horn's ten-pager
others, i can't identify the artists.
Interested? Just bought Donal Bebek today (it's a weekly here) and are =
you
interested in it too? cause it has a part 1 of Toy-Story2 big poster. =
The
2nd part which is the last part will come in with the year-end special =
issue
which supposedly to be in shops next week.
BTW, I live in jakarta, capital of Indonesia, and taking a management =
field
of study in a university.
See ya,
Arie Fachrisal:-)
BTW to the people i promised to send my comics, sorry about sending you =
the same stuff. the reason is there's no back-issues here. the publisher =
here, Gramedia, destroys books that's left after one month not sold. =
please understand, thanks.
Again, i apologize for this mis-use of DCML.
Arie Fachrisal
Wes Andersen
DCML digest, Vol 1 #11 - 8 msgs
Message 103 -
1999-12-06 at 16:44:43
Rebecca: "Anyway, in the mean time I guess all I can do is just keep my fingures crossed, and hope that we'll finally be able to get an english comic book going..."
My fingers are crossed as well, but I'm actually more prepared to learn a new language instead. Anyone have any suggestions? I was going to go with the language of my ancestors, Danish, but Don's recent disappointments in their translations changed my mind.
BTW, Rebecca, I just moved with my wife and 2.9 children to Rockville from California.
-- Wes
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My fingers are crossed as well, but I'm actually more prepared to learn a new language instead. Anyone have any suggestions? I was going to go with the language of my ancestors, Danish, but Don's recent disappointments in their translations changed my mind.
BTW, Rebecca, I just moved with my wife and 2.9 children to Rockville from California.
-- Wes
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Frank Stajano
Simple stupid questions
Message 104 -
1999-12-06 at 17:07:29
At 1999-12-06 21:20 +0700, Arie Fachrisal wrote:
>can somebody help me out, cause I'm a bit lost in all your messages
You will now be lost in the shower of answers to these questions... but I
guess someone has to start ;-)
>1. What's HDL?
The nephews, Huey Dewey Louie
>2. What's IMO mean?
In My Opinion. The less arrogant (or more sarcastic) will say IMHO for In
My Humble Opinion.
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
>can somebody help me out, cause I'm a bit lost in all your messages
You will now be lost in the shower of answers to these questions... but I
guess someone has to start ;-)
>1. What's HDL?
The nephews, Huey Dewey Louie
>2. What's IMO mean?
In My Opinion. The less arrogant (or more sarcastic) will say IMHO for In
My Humble Opinion.
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
Stefan Persson
DCML digest, Vol 1 #10 - 18 msgs
Message 105 -
1999-12-06 at 17:55:41
Oliv wrote:
>François :
>
>Indexed stories for year 1998:
>1. Italy 9023
>2. Denmark 4157
>3. France 812
>4. Netherlands 613 (?)
>5. Brazil 440
>6. Europe 88
>
>-----------------
>
>Europe ?
>Where is Europe ?
Those are comics produced by Disney Europe, in Paris. Their codes start with
'E' for Europe. Those are mostly made after the animated Disney movies.
BTW, I guess that you mean pages instead of stories.
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>François :
>
>Indexed stories for year 1998:
>1. Italy 9023
>2. Denmark 4157
>3. France 812
>4. Netherlands 613 (?)
>5. Brazil 440
>6. Europe 88
>
>-----------------
>
>Europe ?
>Where is Europe ?
Those are comics produced by Disney Europe, in Paris. Their codes start with
'E' for Europe. Those are mostly made after the animated Disney movies.
BTW, I guess that you mean pages instead of stories.
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